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I honestly think this can be a good change, your points also make sense. They also said that there are other things that would be removed as well than the things on the list. But reputation and money value should be lowered. But it is not even out yet so maybe it can have a different affect instead too.
To be fair, I just started playing, and getting all the loot, then getting it stolen by people you know you could win, after you understand pvp mechanics....is annoying -.- Having some time to build up would be great. But also there are only 16 players per server. People have played for years. I played 3 days and got 2 out of the 3 boats. Stuff has changed in the game, where gold is insanely easy to get
I do like the idea for the safer seas for those moments where, you don’t want loot, you don’t want to fight, you just want to chill and do some tall tales with your friends Im not a good pvp player and I will always play on the high seas. But having the possibility to experience this beautiful game in a more passive and relaxing way is interesting to think about
I tottaly agree with this your comment, Some days I just want to wounder around and learn each island but you get chased and sank like you have a chest of Fortune sucks. I says this the community makes this game if its fun for you do what you like, If the high Seas get empty it says a lot about the community if its fun for you and not for another player I get it but preying on those who might no have a good setup or just starting sucks they learn yes but it leaves a very nerve racking to learn the game cause there are very amazing people out there and some as a good old saying "Misery loves company".
I just realized in the clip where they showed the player killing the pirate and jumping off the ship with the new chest, you can see the server lag for a good second or two lol.
I think that adding support for multiple crews in safer seas could be a good idea. I know some players (myself included) don't actually dislike pvp, but just worry about being stomped on by random toxic people. Being able to battle against your friends in safer seas could be a great space for learning pvp, and it would be hella fun.
The problem is then you're going to see hackers, 100% guaranteed. You think hackers enjoy ruining the PVP experience? Imagine when they get a chance to ruin the game for people they KNOW don't have thick skin.
@@tankerd1847I think he means you can invite friends into your safer seas server basically instantly allianced, not random public matchmaking which the game is right now. Though I have no idea if they're going to enable that.
PvE addition is truly a blessing. Very few people are still in the mood to deal with toxic crews or cheaters. Since Rare seems not in the mood to address this issues, PvE seems a cool choice. I would have lowered the level cap, leaving the gold amount unaltered since it’s only for cosmetics, but… it is what it is.
To be honest, I like the fact that they are adding Safer Seas, though instead of removing the emissary I wish they would just increase the amount rate of NPC’S spawning, like more skeleton ship encounters, more megs, more ocean crawlers, etc. Though there is one thing we are all forgetting: *The Ancient Coins Skeleton,* you won’t be able to spawn that, right? 👀
What I’m worried about is that more casual players will move to safer seas, which means that only the very skilled players are left in high seas, which means that nobody newly starting or coming from safer seas will be able to actually get good at pvp, and will just end up being killed in every fight because there’s no other new players for them to match up with. Edit: I’m saying that a lot more players will quit to getting destroyed in pvp because now instead of a everyone being in high seas it’s a slow trickle from safer seas so the average skill of high seas will become higher, which will make even new players that want to learn pvp or players who might do pvp still quit
I look at this as an improvement to my PvP experience too. Grinding HG has become a pain, and sailing around in adventure rarely gives me a PvP challenge. As a galleon, we maybe encounter a crew worth their salt every 15 hours of gameplay. I get tired of sinking people who have barely learned to defend themselves, so now anyone I see in high seas is someone with at least confidence! EDIT: This announcement also introduced us to a new style of PvP voyage/world event hybrid with interesting dynamics to how to complete it, but "They're removing PvP?" Come on Blurbs.
Annnnd this exactly why I think Safer Seas is smart. My team, on the other hand, play once in a blue moon to fuck around and maybe get a couple chests and just BE in a pirate world. And now we dont have to get in the crosshairs of teams like yours which was such a huge source of frustration for us. Now, we BOTH can have our cake and eat it too...not just get it shoved in our face.
yeah, it should also decrease the amount of times people run from you so you don't have to spend an hour chasing that one emissary sloop you saw in the whole server Also I think they could go a little further and add multiple crews to Safer Seas as long as gold rewards get severely nerfed. I would love to have a place to practice TDM and such in a closed environment
@brocsewell I agree! There's been times we've no doubt ruined people's fun just through sheer number advantages. (We try to let true swabbies go unless they've been hoarding)
@@victorc8855I agree with this as well! Running is a viable strategy and there's no rules against it, but it does get tiring after hunting 3 ships down over the course of 3-4 hours 😅😅😅
here's the thing, I love pvp and all the risk with it, I love the rush of the fight, the transition from peaceful journey to daring adventure but not everyone does, why? because their loot but most of all, assholes, the amount of people who would waste time just to keep killing you without sinking or sailing just to find you and do it all over again is a pretty big thing, not only that most of the time they're toxic, it's not like a game of league in which you can mute them and just wait out the game before having to (most likely) never see them again, you're kind of stuck with them until you decide to server hop or disconnect from the game, and that's pretty demoralizing, in fact when I first started sot this happened to me, the only reason I never fully hated pvp was because I learned that despite losing, I can try and make their life miserable by causing inconveniences (stealing important loot, throwing away their loot, sailing their ship away etc) but most people don't really have a coping mechanism like that thus rather than enduring loss after loss, they'd rather just call for a pve server because they just don't have the energy to sit through and learn while probably getting berated
I rather think it is because people pay for a product and expect the product to not give them a horrible experience. A horrible experience, given to them by the PvP nerds that need to fence digital dickfights with their tiny swords to measure who is the best among them while causing collateral damage to everyone around them.
I respect all opinions on Safer Seas and I see both sides. I just wanted to get this off my chest though. I have a disability that affects my hand eye coordination so I’ve always enjoyed PVP in SOT but gotten overwhelmed quicker. Now I can see the perspective of the other side. I plan on playing High Seas when I want to level up and fighting back against other crews is part of that grind. But I have a limit, if you fill a ballon with water for too long it will eventually pop. So when I need to calm down, just immerse myself I’ll be spending a few hours in Safer Seas. Having that available to me will probably give me a higher tolerance for getting sunk. So I’ll be able to play keep coming back to fight with other crews more. I’m in full agreement that there needs to be something for hardcore players. Don’t get me wrong I do enjoy the PVP, it’s just my disability makes it hard to process multiple thoughts such as ship repair, cannons, keeping them off my ship etc. However I love the game, so you see the position I’m in?
Some of my friends really hate PvP. We were doing the Pirates of the Caribbean tall tales, but they never completed them. They just stopped playing after being sunk by other players. Now that PvE mode is being introduced, they might pick up where we left off. That means that Rare just got back some playing customers that spend time inside the game and gain some love for the game. My friends might eventually switch to the PvPvE mode when they feel that they've done all the game has to offer in PvE, but still want more from the game. I think Rare is right, their game has grown and offers so much that they can release a demo-mode in the form of Safer Seas.
@@francogimenezrichard967 Then why dose it have NPCs and PvE things if it's so focused on PvP. It's not all about PvP. Just because I want PvE doesn't mean I can't play a PvP game.
I'm already max leveled on EVERYTHING and have the pvp Athena blessing.... But coming from someone who has lost treasure to hackers I am really looking forward to safer seas. I've literally had 4 Chests of fortune stolen by hackers. 3 of which weren't even in the vaults when I opened them, another lost from a flying speed-hack keg-spamming hacker. Sometimes they'd teleport the Athena chests out of the vaults too! It's a damn disappointment for me to say this, but this is Rare's ONLY response to stopping cheaters. Cheaters can't get you in solo play.
The problem I've seen is that rare doesn't seem to know what game they're developing. Sea of thieves will always have high stakes battles with huge losses on the table, but rare seems to think that they can just make it some safe space where everyone is happy. that is not how online PVPVE games work.
Safer Seas are vital to the Sea of Thieves Ecosystem. After all it’s essential to reward entitled brats who can’t fathom the idea of actually working for something with integrity and hard work with free handouts! NOT TO MENTION, it’s not like the existing servers are struggling with under population as it is.. LOL
Bro, nobody is going to play in Safer Seas all the time. It's super nerfed. If anything, this increases the accessibility of the game, so I'm not sure what your actual issue is here.
@@brentamundrud SoT is a videogame, not a second job. Also, what's difficult or noble about stealing the loot of some kids who barely know how to play the game?
As for me, a veteran player who no longer have his crew online, safer seas would be just nice for me. I live in a concrete jungle, get home really late from work, sometimes i just wanna chill & sail instead of being chased around with the little time i have before i going to sleep and grind again in real life. I really love seas.. and this game is the closest escape for me. I get the hate but lets see how it works out.
i feel u, but most of the comunity would just say "this game is not for you then", real sad... not everyone wants to spend 30min+ of their night running from a reaper with thousand of hours that has nothing better to do. its just unfair, attackers have nothing to lose and you win nothing by defending yourself
This is a perfect feature for that, I'm glad it reduces rep though since it makes the PVP still rewarding but I don't mind PVE players being able to earn money away from everyone else.
Sometimes in SoT I like to go pirate style and fight, sometimes I just want to chill out and fish without having to look over my shoulder. I'm glad there's both options.
As another veteran player i disagree. You make a safe server but keep the same world events and crap. Ive sunk over 1000 skelly ships. What am i going to do sink 1000 more? We need other stuff to do.
@@drsgonborn and the problem with "this game is not for you" is that there's literally not another game like this but for PVE people. Lot of people who want a pirate themed exploration sandbox are stuck with a group of 99% young males who want to use it as their pirate themed FPS lobby. Both valid ways to play the game, but way less toxic if you have a way to separate the two groups. People always recommend AC: Black Flag (great game but nothing like SoT) or monkey island (game is ancient at this point and again shares nothing with SoT other than being a pirate game), as if those are valid competitors to this. Glad they're adding PVE servers, prior to this I thought our only hope was for someone to come along and blatantly copy SoT but with PVE only.
I enjoy the pvp sometimes, but if I'm playing alone, I find the constant "head-on-a-swivel" awareness exhausting after my very active workday. Sometimes, all I want to do is toss a line in the water and enjoy the beauty of the seas. Too many of the sweats will go after the solo player just because it's an easy kill. It's not a fear of losing my loot (although losing those rare or hard-to-acquire fish suuuucks when I can only keep a few in my inventory); it's the toxicity of so many of those sweats. They're not content to just sink the ship and go away. They're bored little brats who feel powerful when they can camp on your ship and kill you over and over again, taunting and mocking, ensuring that you can't recover any of the things you've worked for, and that they don't even want. If it truly was a matter of battle, win or lose, and then move on, that'd be fine. But so often, as a solo player, that's NOT been my experience. I've been killed when I was a on a rowboat, with no loot on board, clearly just fishing, for sport, more times than I can count. If I can go catch a fish with only world dangers to manage? I'm doing it. Sorry if that means the sweats lose their chew toys.
There is a lot to say and argue about this change, but it is a totally 100% positive change. The players who don't think so are the toxic players that make it so no one wants to play this game in the first place. Complaining about not having easy targets is just as bad as hacking or cheating. Some people want to play the PvE content and have fun, and not be harassed by toxic players. Compare any other very successful titles out there, they all have different modes or ways to avoid negative interaction with a toxic player.
I like the change for two main points: 1. The people who permanently switch to Safer Seas will, I hope, be the type of people who run and don't/can't put up a fight, so there's no sport in the PvP anyhow. (No doubt many running reapers and such will stay on the high seas for the gold and still run) 2. I think it will work great as a tutorial and way for players to get their feet wet. If they hunger for PvP and gold, they'll switch over and get it. If they don't, then they probably fall into category 1 anyway.
I doubt anybody will move there permanently. That 70% nerf to rep and gold will make alot of people steer clear. Only people that will go there for a set time would probably be tall tale people and fishermen. Which i honestly might do. I got my master hunter of the sea of thieves title while in the thick of the normal servers by my self. Would have had ALOT more if it werent for grievers. So it would be nice to just relax for a change and fish without worry.
@@SolaireofAstoraFH Tall Tales and Fishing is what my crew who stopped playing years ago are most exvited about for Safer Seas, so I can confrm this at least for vets w/ limited time/patience to be bum rushed for just fishing on work night
@@SolaireofAstoraFHthat’s the main reason I’d use it, I wanna get my tale tale commendations done without having to worry about greifers and being chased by pirate wannabes who only want to pvp.
Personally, the only aspects of the game that I could do without other players wanting to sink me are fishing as well as the animal voyages. I also feel the limitations they have put in place are fair and will encourage players to migrate to high seas for greater reward eventually. Also, who cares about the small minority of players that abhor PvP, let them miss out on the rest of the game; they arent fun to fight anyways. Youll see a lot more people who can give you a good fight.
Not everyone is looking for PvP all the time, so kinda a good thing to let them have a chance to take a break from that when they just wanna fish or make deliveries. When they feel like doing PvP again, they'll come right back to the High Seas servers.
Yeah the limitations seem great. But what you dont realise is that with 30% rep gain the path to lvl 40 is more than 3 times as long. This turns maybe a 30 hour task into a 100 hour one. Making new players stay in safer seas for that amount of time seems excessive. Lowering the cap to 25 or less would low this time drastically.
You aren't MAKING people play in a safe server until the level cap though. You can go on to the main servers at any point you feel comfortable with the game... @@joja7868
@@joja7868 They don't have to stay in safer sea, they can change anytime. As long as the UI makes new player realize exactly how much more grindy safer sea is, I don't think it is too much of an issue. If it's just a general statement that progress is slower in safer sea, that could lead to some misinformation.;
PvE'ers are not a minority. I'm in no way a PvE only player but you only have to go sailing to see that 90% of the seas are trying to be peaceful and the minority is trying to sink EVERYONE. There's a reason that every time they release a PvP function it becomes a ghost town, there are nowhere near as many PvP'ers as PvP'ers would lead you to believe, they are just generally the loudest.
As someone who had spent hours in SoT during its release, I left due to the rampant nature of PvP. Island squatting and all, it got tiresome and I had to give up because of the amount of times I lost good loot from the time spent getting it. A PvE mode should have been made since the beginning, allowing casual players to just chill with their friends and meet new people in a non-hostile player environment. If a casual wants to switch to PvP, then so be it. Let them do that. The main defense I've been hearing is "bUt ThE title is caLLed Sea oF ThIEvEs" yea, no shit the game is called that but it doesn't mean that the devs have to exclude the casual audience nor the potential streamers that have a large casual based following as well.
You are most likely wrong. People want PvE to avoid PvP when they feel like it, not altogether. I really like pvp, I would 100% go to a PvE server to do a tall tale with friends, try to learn the best way to do a fort or test something out without the looming threat of a 2000 hours sweat sinking us and feeling superior about it. I am new to this community and one clear thing to me is how old players have a distorted view about the game they play and it's community.
SoT is the Bike Cuck meme of games "I just lost 3 hours of loot and Emmisary rank. I was pretty bumbed out about it. But I think that Athena blessed crew that stole it was probably more happy to get it then I am sad to lose it. The total happiness in the SoT increased. So whatever." I just wasted 3 hours of my life for nothing! Yippie! WHAT A FUN GAME! Actual masocist, or sadist depending on your role.
I am excited for the pve Mode, so I can play with Families and friends - and also to moving to the pvp Part. I have a lot of friends that want to start sot with the pve Mode for learning and later go to pvp.
Speaking as someone who only gets to play once a week when I finish work. There are a few world events that I really want to try in a PvP setting but ultimately just want to learn how to handle it by itself with no fear of someone interrupting before I go into a setting with other players. That way I have a grasp on that part of the game mechanics before I add the risk of other players attacking me. So far every time I try certain world events I get shut down before I can ever learn how to actually do it. (again I only have limited time to play.) So I personally plan to use the safer seas mode to teach me a bit on how to beat certain world events and then I full expect to go back to the High Seas because I do really enjoy the extra gold and adventure that comes with that. Loved the video and your thought, I do hope this does not drive people away overall.
@@amnc2754 thats a good point. Hopefully it will just give me the chance to try some of the world events with out being interrupted. Then I can move back into the high seas.
@@amnc2754 SKY whatever you do you wont learn anything cuz you either be interupted amd actively discouraged to discover lore, roleplay, do pve and all that beacuse PvP And you wont anything without it too Lose lose
this is a good thing, im tried of always having swabbies in the servers i go in. i want someone who is also looking for pvp and some fun. Only people that are mad about this are the ones that suck and can only sink swabbies
I agree there's definitely a concern of how it will affect things long term. Short term, it will probably make things more active for a while since many very new players will be replaced with people who actively opted in to fight. Remember, if hypothetically, half of players go to pve servers, that does not mean pvp servers will be half full. It means there will still be servers just as full, but with more aggressive players around, and half as many servers.
@@chaset1218 because as a relatively new player I don’t want to go into high seas which is going to be full with only pvp sweats but I also want to play the normal way and don’t want a 30% decrease. If my only option is pvp gods or no gold I’m just going to play something else.
@@chaset1218 in blurbs' very video he talks about how these players that will enjoy the pve servers, once hitting the threshold of reputation level 40, may be curious to play pvp servers. These servers will be filled with tryhards and sweats that will absolutely annihilate these players that have non-pvp habits and awareness leading to them either continuing to grind in pve servers after completing everything or quitting altogether.
@@wukaly That's not the average players problem. Do you remember why arena got shut down? It never got supported because nobody queued for it, everyone wanted to go into adventure and dunk on new players. Notice how the only people saying this is bad are pvp content creators? I've been playing since release and I've watched so many awesome people I met in the game leave after days to just a couple months because of how bad it to new players.
What I'm hearing is a PVPer who is seeing the chance at easy targets, being diminished/ removed. Sea of Thieves will be just fine. Of the two types of gameplay; PVP or PVE, I think the PVPers side of servers will lose interest first/ lose population.
I dunno, I can see his point. The idea on paper is a good one, but they're executing it in a way that seems likely to backfire and unintentionally reinforce the problems it's intended to fix.
I think this is going to hit rookie and mid level PVP-friendly crews the hardest. I can see why some people want a PVP-free experience but weak crews in adventure mode are necessary for giving newbie PVPers a chance to keep their hearts in the game while they get good. No one's going to want to get good at PVP if that means getting slapped around by nothing but experts for months.
i have not had a single positive player encounter in the 2 years i played the game, and stopped playing because of the toxic pvp players. this update is actually gonna make me play the game again
@@AlexiaHoardwing At least I can handle some conflict in a videogame designed around the idea ahaha, just disappointed it's gonna die seeing as I've spent money, but never the less enjoy your pve faggy little kid.
Honestly I love pvp but I also value the chill sail on the seas. With cheating rampant in every competitive game I know this change will be truly enjoyable
This is a really good move because their anticheat is complete bootysauce and they will only ban people for bad usernames and ship names. At least now I won't have to worry about the cheaters being incentivized to mess with me
some people just wanna play PvE and sacrifice some gold and rep for the fun of it. I was introducing my friend to the game last week and just sunk repeatedly for 3 hours straight and managed to sell zero loot. I get that this is just how the game is sometimes and I'm not hating because of it. BUT... Not everyone has time to play and get good enough to compete with these 3000+ hour competitive players. Some prefer to just play casually for a couple hours on the weekend without getting dogged by a crew of greasy 12-year-olds. Safer Seas is nothing more than a way for new/casual players to have fun while the more experienced players can fight each other with higher risk/reward.
I'm happy with the PVE servers. I gave up on the game years ago because when I get home from a day at work I just feel like relaxing with a tall tale quest and every time I would get started a ship would come to sink me. I understand PVP forces you to get better at fighting but I honestly don't care. I enjoy the story.
This is being overblown, the penalty is crazy, no captaincy, and I doubt events like FoF will even spawn. This mode will only benefit new players. In fact, as someone who hates pvp, this doesn’t appeal to me at all since Im already PL.
This is pretty much the most logical and W take out of the entire airspace of drones that is the comment section. This mode is honestly balls. PvE mode, but wtf is even the point? You can't do hardly jack shit of anything, you might as well not even play the game. Forgive me if I just wanted to play casually with my other casual friends without the risk of sweaty galleons server hopping and ganking us on our 3 hour play session; all that time wasted due to some sweatlord server hopping because the game is dying and everyone already quit out of their own server. Limitations are too harsh, PvE mode sucks for older players who hate PvP, won't be returning to the game for this insult
I think this may be one of the better things SOT has done since launch. One of the main reasons why I couldn't get into SOT was because it lacks any real sense of choice, you either play it their way or not. To a PVPer that's fine. You guys have the thrill of the chase, the anticipation of the the next battle and the intensity of the duel and you learn to play by trial and error. But to a large enough group of players, this just isn't fun. Lazer Pig's video explaining how the community turning into a toxic shoot first ask questions never perfectly illustrates why this game struggles in player retention so much in comparison to Rust. Rust has always gives players the option to play how they want. you wanna do the Blooprint or Weyln and PVP like mad buggers, brilliant. But they you also can play PVE servers, training servers, Role playing servers, Modded servers with unique gameplay, Servers made especially for events. Rust has always made choice a factor and it thrives because of it.
I’m a PvP sweat but I don’t see how this is a bad idea. The learning curve in this game is absolutely massive, so many new players quit after being griefed. It’s not killing the shared world experience, the PvE players will just play the PvE servers and that’s okay! I’d rather fight good players at world events than PvEr’s that just give up. This isn’t removing PvP, this is going to help Rare overall as a business which will increase the longevity of the game.
It's almost like there should be a dedicated place where people could practice PVP in an environment that's separate from Adventure, but has rewards of its own and maybe a bit of gold reward for improving and doing well. A place where the really serious PVPers could go to hone their skills, and newer players could learn the hard way at an accelerated pace without losing hours of progress in the form of treasure. An "arena" of sorts if you will...
Honestly, this may be a good thing in the long run as MANY things are limited on PvE and gives a chance for newer or less experienced players to learn the ropes first. For those that only want PvE then let them play PvE. It won't have any effect on the High Seas mode IMO because MANY MANY MANY players QUIT ENTIRELY after experiencing much of the hardships on PvP without knowing how to play the game. I even offered to teach them the ropes but with constant interruptions and massive bad luck (even helping my friends WIN PvP matches and teaching them that using the environments and events to their advantage like skellie ships and other aspects is a good tactic), they haven't had the chance to explore, go about the lore, see certain details of the game, or go at their own pace. This PvE mode is a way to ease in new players, and it will bring in more players in general to support the game. Those worried that the PvP/High Seas will be more empty than ever I feel are worrying over nothing. It WILL not feel empty due to some of the more exciting events being a part of High Seas, Guilds and Captained Ships will remain behind High Seas only, and those who want to eventually move on to PvP WILL DO SO! Those who only wanted the PvE parts of the game were never going to stick around and will (AND HAVE) eventually quit the game. Mentioning this to my friends who DID quit because of such now want to give the game another chance seeing they can now be eased in to the game itself. Give this a chance first come December as I feel this will gradually increase the number of players who can learn the game and want a challenge later after knowing how to manage and explore first. If they move onto High Seas then great! If they play only PvE and or quit after getting bored of it then they were never going to change the numbers anyways. We shall soon see.
I keep hearing people saying that safer seas should have a lower level cap, and I just don't see how that would help or change anything, except for the worse. As mentioned in the video, there are players who just want to PvE, who don't care about PvP, don't care about pirate legend, don't care about cosmetics. To those players, whatever the level cap in Safer Seas is going to be is going to be the end game to them. The lower the level cap, the sooner they'll have "competed it" and leave the game. Frankly, the only difference is that they're going to "complete" the game without any sort of satisfying ending since they won't get to make pirate legend and have a sort of ending, they'll just find the game sorts of... ends. To my mind, the thing that keeps dragging people out of SoT that I hear quite often is that its disrespectful of player's time. You can't start a session and know when its going to end or, more to the point, when you're going to start having fun. The unpredictability of PvP turns that dial up significantly, you never know when you're going to meet someone so you can't comfortably judge your session. If you live a life where you need to limit playtime to set blocks most of the time, the high seas version of SoT just means that often you're going to opt for something with a more controllable and reliable fun return for your time investment. With Safer Seas I see more of an option for people who have half an hour or an hour sessions most of the time to keep touching base with the game, keeping it in their play rotation, knowing that they can reliably get what they want to done in that time, and then when they can afford an open ended play session, going to high seas and having the full flavour experience. Its the problem that I feel hourglass was shooting to solve, but queue times being so unpredictable really cut into that. I think that without the ability to do things like save or fast travel it'll never be 100% on that front, but this feels like a big move towards allowing more casual players to curate their experience.
I dont think this will hurt the game long-term like you're saying. My friends and I enjoy the high seas and being in the mix, but after two or three sessions of regularly fighting off other crews, we'd like a night of just chilling on the boat, having a laugh, and relaxing. At the same time, I can finally bring my wife who's not good at PvP into this and let her experience this world that I've put so much time into, and understand why I love it so much. You said it in your previous videos. Twitch views are down. Concurrent players are down. Something has to change, and this will bring a lot of life, and subsequently, money back into the game. Long-term I think this will be good for the game, good for the community, and better for Rare's bottom line.
idk if im the only one here but i think my biggest problem will be the type of players in the high seas. so now if me and some buddys want to play pirates but ALSO want the chance to have pvp then instead of coming across other crews who can barely stay afloat we are only going to be in lobbys with pirate legends and reaper sweats
@@Skelerax occasionally that’s fine but with the lobby’s split the people who are on the fence are kinda just left on the fence 😂 like some pvp is good but when I’m about to finish a tall tale or something then yeah it’s annoying to get sunk but I’m def staying in the high seas
@@bryan81584 I don’t hate this idea I think how the implemented it was smart, I agree it should be like level 15-20 tho not just the last 10 levels haha
As someone who got to lvl 45 in Sea Dogs solo before arena went away (and really enjoyed it, especially TDM) I am glad they are adding PvE servers. I am way too paranoid to just chill and be immersed in the world. I fully realized this when I did Shores of Gold for the first time- I loved it so much because I was alone and could fully focus on the adventure. There's also hitreg. I haven't played in a while and don't know how it is now, but I refuse to have my time and energy hinge on bullshit RNG. If I'm gonna hit my shots, they better actually count. What's the point if you are only sometimes rewarded for playing better, or quite literally punished? You may choose to shoot, but due to hitreg, you die to a sword. That is being punished for choosing and pulling off a higher skill mechanic. That's why I loved arena: no stakes- only fighting. You can keep trying and trying and won't lose hours of progress due to a single shot not counting. You die and go again right away! No big deal.
This is a good change to me. I Don't know where these friendly crews were when I played. Its was always if I got even close to cannon range to anyone it was just a lot of yelling and laughing trying to sink me. Let the PvP purest have at it with each other. See how many actually wanted good PvP as opposed to hunting people that weren't good at that game. I've played alot of PvP in other games, but this one has some of the most toxic people I ever came across.
Dont forget that many players that really hates pvp in sot are not playing anymore so i think many people will come back to the game and its gonna be very good for rare and i think its better that high seas will be for players that want to fight.
idk man, i dont think its gonna kill it at all. sure, people will play safe seas, but that doesnt increase or decrease boat cap per server, so those that wanna pvp are gonna be put into more servers with people of the same mindset. blood will still flow lol. a few years back, i tried to get some friends into the game and the anxiety of not knowing what anything was or what any of the events meant + having to watch for sneaky snakes/attackers was too much and they quit. i think i might be able to use this mode to teach them what the events are and what they do, and get them practicing shots on skelly ships along w/ basic boat mechanics and positioning before we go into the thick of it, which i feel like would actually make them give the game more of a chance. Dont have to be pulled up somewhere with a few swabbies like "so this is how you-- AHH ITS A BRIG GET ON THE CANNO--- ope i got one shot, and now we're all spawn camped so nvm." lol
Safer seas should really just be a private server feature without any grind available, like just enemies to fight on the islands and world events so people could get into the game and learn what to do before "going online" and grinding reputation and gold.
@@henrybran8904 they said no grind only this allows you to get most of the way to pirate legend and be able to infinitely stack fotd’s allowing you to gain massive amounts of gold, even if you only get 30% and no emissary. This is a bad decision in my opinion I think it would be better if any of the gold and rep you made in the Pve server should be wiped once you get back to the main game
I'm sorry blurbs but you can't see past your own bubble. I'd rather a new player go on safer seas, get to level 40 and quit, then see them join the game as it is today, get crapped on and never touch it again. A player quitting from a positive experience but getting bored, is much better than a player quitting from a negative experience. The restrictions are harsh enough too. No COFS, no FOTDs, no Athena & Reapers, next to zero gold progress. If they loved the game from their experience in safer seas, they will play high seas. If they don't then they were gonna quit at the first hurdle anyway.
This, I've experienced this firsthand with a friend of mine. I recommended him the game and he tried it later that night. And his first experience was the same as many, did some simple voyages, got a few chests... and immediately got dumpstered on by a Galleon crew as a solo Sloop. Gave up the game entirely. News of these new "learning servers" where he can hop in and learn the ropes before dealing with people seems to have sparked his interest in the game once more.
Pretty much this. I used to be one of those players that wanted PvE only, but have changed my mindset. A lot of those players that will be in that mode aren’t playing the game at all now because of the PvP. This not only gives a place for those people, but makes adventure mode more focused, gives options to people for playing the game in different ways, and will likely encourage at least some of them to move over for more rewards and the thrill of combat. Where’s the fun in sinking someone who’s brand new and/or doesn’t want to fight anyway? I don’t think this is going to split the playerbase so much as it will just add onto it. Yes, some players absolutely will go to that mode and never look back. But I think it’s always better to have options to play the game as you want to, just as a general game design principle. The restrictions are enough to ensure adventure mode doesn’t just become a PvP onslaught. Side note…not sure why you can’t be a captain in that mode though…what’s the harm in using the sovereigns and buying the trinkets?
I'm here for it, just started playing a couple days ago, on my first day got ganked to many times, I will be on these servers you pvp'ers can fight among yourselves
I have had several friends quit the game after being sunk out-of-the-blue by some griefers. People forget that those who comment on youtube, reddit and the forums are most likely already in the top 1%, while the majority of the playerbase just quits quietly (or is shushed by the 1000-hour-"elites" about how eating some dirt and being sunk over and over after a 3 hour voyage is somehow a splendid part of the experience)
Oh, so they're finally introducing a Singleplayer Mode, eh? Time to reinstall the game and get to grinding. Without some sweat getting on my nerves, that is
Right? I put a good 80 or so hours in this game before a player encounter made me uninstall this game. But if I can just relax and sail the seas by myself without ANY worry of other players, I’ll definitely redownload it and play more
@@lookathim7738 You know those sails you get for handing in 50 captain skulls of the damned? Those are currently my top priority. Farming that voyage will be so much easier without having to look over my shoulder every 30 seconds. Then there is also a handful of pretty neat stuff you get for doing vaults and lost shipments, skeleton ships, ashen lords... Hell, I might even pick up fishing again.
I have played both SoT and League of Legends. Some people in League play bots even when they can play Norms against real players. Some people never play the normal "Summoner's Rift" map because they don't like the core of how it is played. They play ARAM 95% of the time, Bots 3% of the time and Norms 2% while never touching Ranked. ARAM being "All Random All Mid" and on a separate map from SR. It is a bridge, One lane, to just duke it out and throw abilities at people until you lose. It is far from the core concept of the game where you have Objectives, a Jungle to navigate, and a Multitude of Tactics. That being said, I never play Ranked Solo/Duo, I occasionally play Bots, I periodically play ARAM, I consistently play Norms, but i MOSTLY play Ranked Flex with friends. I will definitely play Safer Seas with some friends who have dropped the game for PvP and it will be a blast! I will also play the standard High Seas with a few other friends who are into the actual game of Sea of Thieves XD Edit. Lastly, If I were able to stitch together my friend group into one entity, I estimate that Rare will get an extra 200 hours of gameplay and $80-$100 from them. Although, those hours may be a bit lower and the money spent may be a lot higher. These bozos have a cosmetic curse and will not hesitate to spend money on shiny things. I love you guys, but I had to be honest. Alright done with my rant.....
I dont think the shared world experience will be affected that much. I do believe servers will countain a bigger % of players who really are ready to PvP of necessary.
See im not opposed to PVP, im opposed to Toxicity and sadism. Im glad that the Devs are implementing a safer alternative, though the 70% nerf on progression is pretty steep.
Honestly the toxicity wouldn't be bad if match-making was limited by ship size so a soloing sloop player can't get spawn camped and trolled by a full galleon.
AS someone who is literally nobody who always wanted to love this game, but had the experience soured by one too many a toxic enemy crew and friends not as devoted I want to be, I love this. I love the ocean and the fictional pirate image but I'm not as competitive as sea of thieves devoted playerbase. In my years of gaming I've looked for this sailing/pirate experience anywhere but there's basically nothing besides this game. My perfect game of all time would be "Sea of thieves BUT pve and with some sort of rpg/loot style grind". This is as close as I'll ever get and I'm so happy to hear it.
that's just it though, you're not grinding for anything. you are going to be doing the same exact voyages that we've all been doing for the last 5 years for the same rewards being turned in at the same placed for the same things to buy just to go out and do it again. Their is no grind for anything. I understand what you're saying, but this is just how PvPvE games work. the difficulty of the game comes from the PvP aspect and without that aspect you have an extremely bare bones, very boring PvE experience that is extremely mind numbing. If you wanted a PvE game with RPG/loot grind, then you might as well just wait for skull and bones next year. This update is going to kill SoT.
Why do I have to be a parent playing with my child to want PVE?? That's nonsense. Ive been playing games since I was 9 years old now 29 and do not have children. I can have a preference to not get spawn killed do to a skill gap I can never close, or cheated on reputedly until I close the game anyways. I bought SOT on launch and got bullied off the game by players that are just toxic. SO many games have BOTH PVP AND PVE, because some people are casual gamers and not sweaty gamers! I loved to play SOT with my friends, fighting ghost ships and doing hard quests, until an enemy player cheats or some how is able to spawn kill all of us until our ship sinks. All while screaming at us on mic to just get good and just get better at the game. I have 7k hours clocked into ark survival evolved, on both PVP AND PVE. because sometimes you want to chill with your friends not go into one of the best multiplayer games, only to get bullied right off it. I know for a fact EIGHT, literally EIGHT people on my friends list stopped playing SOT forever because the PVP was too much. So the PVE aspect is a great idea, considering it will have players staying on the game rather than leaving it and considering that for three years straight the poles for adding PVE were over 60% percent and the devs still said FU to more than HALF the player base.
In my opinion it could be very cool if the private safe seas had a public hideout where you could meet other safer seas players and pour few grogs with them
@@azaritox2910 it could be a plase where old veterans could be giving their wisdom to new sailors, as well as plase to share stories about your adventures, but i can easily see it turn into a place where a bunch of people, like blurbs, would mostly be promoting their channel
I actually played for years. Day one player. I have millions of miles sailed. Season 9 ended the fun for me. Cheaters actually tried to sell me the cheats after ruining my session. I have not logged in for months.
PvP focused RU-vidr upset that PvE players can experience the game without getting destroyed constantly by assholes. You’ve literally addressed why people are planning to exclusively play Safer Seas. It’s because High Seas is filled with murderhobos that will target new/younger players and basically ruin their experience and make the game tedious. Don’t be angry that Rare are killing the shared world, they’re simply putting a barrier between new players and the sharks that prey on their inexperience. PvE servers don’t kill shared worlds, Elite Dangerous is a perfect example and that game doesn’t put any restrictions on PvE players. Rare is finally listening to the silent majority, the people who would play the game if the toxic gatekeeping community didn’t insist on throwing them into the deep-end as their first experience of the game.
Without PVE, a lot of people wouldn’t play in the first place. Even if they eventually get bored and move on. They still buy the game, and maybe some cosmetic and give rare money which can then be used to improve PVP or whatever. Yes, making it happen most likely took some time and delayed PVP update in some way, but in the long run, this is a smart investment.
We'll see how it goes, I personally loved the game it was fun and awesome to play with friends. It became hard to learn how to play different events because of the PvP along with just toxic players this completely ruined it for me and my friends
@@duncanidaho5834 There are people who just want to ruin somebody else's experience. They don't care about gold or glory, they just want a reaction. It's pretty lame.
I think calling it "PVE'ers" and "PVP'ers" is for more divisive for the community than anything Rare has done. I also think people are MASSIVELY blowing this out of proportion, the game is already on a decline in terms of player numbers. GTA V; Open-world PVP game, had private servers for PVE. WoW; Had PVP and PVE realms respectively. Minecraft; Option to turn PVP off entirely on your own server/world. DayZ; Had PVE building servers despite being open-world PVP. Call of Duty; Had Zombies and Story mode which some people literally only bought the game for despite it being a "PVP game". ARK Survival Evolved; Tons of PVE servers and even RP servers. Rust; Had RP PVE servers and building servers despite being massively marketed for PVP. I could go on and on but the gaming industry has set a very obvious and clear example that PVE does NOT kill games, it's frankly insane how much this has been fearmongered and dramatized. Every one of the above games DOES NOT cap progress on their PVE modes / servers and not a single one of them suffered from it, in fact it BOOSTED player numbers as the casual player market and PVE player market flooded to those games. I will re-iterate; Making a war out of "PVE vs PVP" is silly, non-sensical and damages the community far more than what Rare did in this update.
I just think they should have PvE servers/Safer Seas just for ppl wanting to do Tall Tales peacefully either solo or with family/friends. I can totally understand that. Not sure about this other stuff though. Mike did reply to me saying they will be addressing and talking about what they are working on with the cheating situation soon. Guess that's something. That's all i cared about. Not going to hold my breath though.
@@gamilith You might think that and I wish that were true but it is far from it. I've seen it too many times and helped many ppl that were trying to do tall tales peacefully just to be chased and bullied by toxic crews. It happens alot. Just because they can't find anybody else to fight on the server they would rather grief and sink Tall Tellers. I have played since day 1 almost everyday and I have seen it more times then I can count. Checkpoints or not just give them a place where ppl can enjoy them worry free. Not hurting anybody by doing that.
@@gamilith I have been held hostage and attacked several times on my grind for gold curse. Finding groups for tall tales is also tedious. I think I could enjoy the Tall Tales for what their worth with these PvE servers since I just skip passed the depth of them because its a distraction which might get me killed.
The one thing i personaly would like to see, is Max Two Ships instead of a Solo Ship, with PvP being the purpose. This way if a veteran player invites a friend to try the game out and likes it, they can practice fighting each other in a safe space & learn the basics. if safer sea's is all about allowing players to get an idea of what sot is, then PvP should be included since its a massive core element of the game. Yes you can cannon ghost & skeleton ships, but... Skeletons & ghosts don't manage their ship like players. Skeletons & ghosts don't board your ship. I fear that when/if new players leave safer sea's and join the high sea's with no PvP experience, they get sunk and go back to safer sea's or quit the game entirely. Or like the video mentioned, they wil get bored of doing PvE and quit because they refuse to go on the high sea's.
@@shawn8050 some games just run their course. all of the real players are already gone now it’s just roleplayers like you that wanna play a multiplayer game by yourself. rest in peace sot it was fun while it lasted
@@gamilith stfu. it's hysterical seeing you seal clubbers getting your diapers filled over this lmao. No more easy steals and sinks. High seas will be only toxic sweating incels with even more toxic and sweatier incels. So, I'm happy to share the same advice you griefers were generously sharing with us PvErs before - GiT GuD!
Wait WHAT!?!?! YESSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!! The whole reason I left SOT is because I love the game, but get sick of the PvP. I know alot of people like the PvP, and I am glad they enjoy that gameplay, but for those of us who just want to enjoy the game and chill, this is so cool. I don't care about the grind or rank. I hate PvP and there is NOTHING that will ever change that. That being said, I really hope that the folks that like PvP don't miss out on the gameplay they love, and hope that the game gains players (both new players, and those returning to the game like myself). I am stoked and will be re-installing the game NOW!!!
Some ppl don't want to be absolutely humiliated during pvp and I get that. Some people drop sails and run for their life when they see another player I've seen this and they beg to be left alone. Who wants to fight a player like that. So I don't see an issue. If they don't want to fight then fair enough, I don't want to fight someone who doesn't want it. They were never a target for me anyway. It just saves me the time of the chase
This is 100% the wrong way to do this. The correct way is to tutorialise new players would be to: A) have NPCs give you basic pointers on how to fight! Open up a section of the Reapers' Hideout dedicated to friendly skellies helping landlubbers get their sea legs. B) Consolation prizes for newbies! Below level 25 in your faction and get sunk? Get 35% of the value in gold, dubloons, and reputation! Provided you agree to server hop: no duping here kids.
I can see why PVE servers are a thing, just wanting to relax, enjoy the ambience and just sail around or play with my younger brothers. I just enjoy sailing around the seas sometimes, listening to shanties and just chilling out. But I don't think I'll really ever be loading into safe seas besides that point, part of the reason I love the game so much is the risk of running into another ship that I don't know if they're friend or foe. And so I can act like a fool and a character of whatever emissary flag I'm flying that day.
Plot twist that kind of playstyle doesnt suits ssot for long term. Plot twist, players that embraced that only pve style end up quitting sot over time. Plot twist, almost every dude who joined sot for ssfer seas quits, but most people playing higher seas switches to safer seas so higher seas end up being the least server populated that it has ever been only fulled by giga sweats Gg rare 😂🎉
The entire community: we want different world events, finish the flameheart story, and a reason to go to the devils roar. Rare: nahhhh. We will add more cosmetics and take away all the noobs on the sea.
I'm a PVPer all the way. The only reason I'd use the safer seas is if I were to test a game mechanic that I want to test or to do tall tales undisturbed. But then again I would love to take a break in the middle of a quest to sink a few ships 😅. It all depends, but for the most part I will definitely be taking the high seas because me and my friends love the awesome interactions we have with other players. Thanks for the info Blurbs I really enjoy hearing your prospective on these things being as I always agree with your opinion.
I understand your concerns but I think this is one of their best decisions because now when people like me who have a job or school that just wanna play the game without getting bullied by a sweaty streamer during the hour of gameplay time they have can actually do that.
Honest question for you : if you wanna kick back and relax when coming back from work, why are you playing a PVPVE game ? Like for real. You know it's a possibility that you might encounter people better at pvp than you are and you're gonna have a bad time. Why not play a straight up PVE game in the first place if you wanna chill ? Like Minecraft or TheSims ? I personally play No Man's Sky whenever i feel like gaming but not pvping, just pure space exploration chill vibes.
@@TheMetea11 Not anymore LOLZ now the can CHOOSE pve or PVPVE. Sweats asked for sweat stuff, they got the arena and hour glass and still prefer to pick on the noobs. Sad really. Any new person do you , and realize not all of us on the High Seas are sweats . Come join the crews and guilds when youre ready.
Sea of thieves has some of the most unique battle and sailing mechanics in any pirate game out there I think that and its graphics is going to logically attracted more than just PVP players it is just super appealing and on the outside looks like a casual game due to its marketing. I have Minecraft, No Mans Sky, and Countless Story mode games in my library yet I still chose to play sea of thieves, Ngl I LOVE PVP, but I don't want to discourage players who also want to play the game, just in their own corner more tailored for them (as you implied they wont play the game otherwise because there are other PVE games). Yes this will divide the current yet small community and will probably make og fans really upset but I don't think the game will honestly change much other than your not going to meet 1st day players anymore unless they hit the wrong button.@@TheMetea11
@@TheMetea11They probably already do. That's why SoT is dying, lmao. It amazes me how the community wants to gatekeep while at the time wonders why the playerbase is dwindling.
@@TheMetea11 Maybe they want to sail on the seas like a pirate. SoT is still like, THE best seafaring simulator to date. It really can be exhilarating just sailing and looking at everything.
The only thing wrong with this is that it's private, there should ALSO be a public PVE option if enabled. Everything else is great for the franchise so it doesn't die. However not sure why pirate captin "naming" your ship isn't a thing, seems off, should be included. The thing is SOT has 2 player bases, making both happy is doable so they should. Fanboys and purests need to chill, without money PVP and PVE will die. I think it's great, people can enjoy the story and lore without toxic interference. And kids can play without trolls screaming racist sexual remarks at children. Let's be honest here, in online gaming now not some but unfortunately MOST people are toxic, it's good to have a way for people to enjoy a game without subjecting themselves or their children to that kind of harassment or bullying as SOT literally encourages toxicity and bullying not just in gameplay but also in rewards. Not many people can have hours of their time thrown in the trash either, some people have jobs and lives and will simply uninstall if their time is continually wasted. I think it's a great first step in the right direction, and I have played thousands of hours in both pvp and pve "alliance" servers. They are both great but I will say way more cool encounters and lifetime friendships made in pve. People literally pay monthly to alliance servers, SOE is finally dropped their purists crap and done what's right for the longevity of the game. Good on them for once lol.
I feel like you're working off of a very false assumption: people are sheep that aren't self-aware enough to see the broad picture of what's around them. "Oh, there's Safer Seas mode. I'll just play that and not realize I am missing out on social encounters and be completely helpless when joining the High Seas." People know what's going on. This is not some choice to permanently play one or the other forever. You can just switch depending on how you feel. This is not literally breaking the player-base in half. For the common player, Safer Seas will be an alternative they can use for certain things, if they feel like it, and will still view High Seas as the standard mode. What will happen is: - Folks who are very VERY against PvP, will exclusively play Safer Seas. Good riddance, they are no fun and no good in a PvP fight anyway. - The other pole of the spectrum will continue to only play High Seas and won't ever touch Safer Seas. Great, nothing changes for them beyond the really annoying and vocal runners migrating. - The players in the middle will use it as intended. An alternate option for specific scenarios, Tall Tales, low energy days, teaching new players, etc. Fantastic, these experiences will be better for them now. - New players will potentially start on Safer Seas but they will, one way or the other, be made aware of the experience High Seas provides. At their own pace, they will test out High Seas and learn. A learning curve MUCH nicer than learning the base level mechanics of the game, whilst being fully vulnerable to threats you can only handle with higher knowledge. This is all good for the game. Much like the Hourglasses, this is just another way to tailor the experience of Sea of Thieves for you personally. You can now mix in Safer Seas for the times where that enhances the game, and people will be happier because of it.
Lets be real. The loudest (but to be fair not all) of the anti pve people are the ones preying on new/casual players, using cheats, and generally play in a toxic manner, angry at the realisation that thier gravy boats being taken away. If the vast majority of people migrate to pve, leaving a minority of very toxic, sweaty, kill on sight pvp players(and even smaller minority of pvp players that dont play like tryhards and are actually sporting, honorable players), as all signs seem to indicate as the biggest concern,to me thats undeniable objective evidence that the worst kinds of players have been in control of the larger SoT experience for too long and are upset that thats changing in a big way. Those toxic experiences with those kinds of players created the demand for pve in the first place, and Rare reversing thier no pve stance is all the proof you need that even THEY have seen and understand this. Its a simple case of a small group of malicious people ruining things for everyone else. Giving people who truly want to like this game but cant due to all the grief these players heap on them an out couldnt be argued against by reasonable people. But lets all be honest here- the extremely anti pve doomer "the sky is falling" crowd are hardly reasonable... If pvp servers become a barren wasteland for the most part, MAYBE the pvp main community ought to look INWARDS to find the problem...
Even veterans will be using safer seas to grind out commendations, like the vaults. I hope it makes the 'high seas' mode more interactive, but we'll just have to wait and see.
As a new player, yes i like the open sea vibe and just doing quests and engaging in pvp even tho i'm shit at it BUT i'm looking forward to the pve a lot so i can just lay back and play trough the story without having to worry that after 4 hours all my progress goes down the drain cuz someone decides to grief me. pve should exist especially for people who are inherently anxious and wouldn't want to play on pvp to begin with so instead of dropping the game right off the bat at least they can experience it
Look it this way, when they decide (and some will) to go to high seas and fight us, it is as if they just started the game... but with so much less overwhelm since they had time to learn some mechanics. I just think this is a good thing. Let them have it
It will be worse. They will be used to not having to watch for people and will get shit on and either quit or go back to pve. If this happens enough then there will only be sweats left in high seas and there will be no new players. New players need other new players to come across and fight. If there are only experienced okayers to fight against they will never learn anything and just quit.
@@felix_zeroit would still be the same anyway🤦🏼 but not everyone will have the same reaction you are just playing worst case scenario to justify being able to kill players that don’t have any know how to fight back.
They want lower skill players with less hours to bully around, or more of a challenge. I feel like nearly everyone that mentions "casuals" doesn't understand that people can be hardcore pve enjoyers. I don't like arena in WoW, but mythic raiding is just part of my life. Let people play how they want, and the game will blow up again. I quit because I was tired of the pvp, and thought about coming back for this pve server stuff, to find out it's not that at all, and I can't play the way I want.
@@shawn8050 that’s what the fun of the game was designed to be, and that’s the fun of the game for anyone that learns after sinking, instead of just getting mad
Sorry dude. I respectfully disagree with you. A PVE server only is exactly what a casual player like me wants. I level capped over 2 years ago. Now I only want to play with my friends who are on console, and because of that we are always at a disadvantage. The amount of toxic players I come across VS friendly ones is easily 9 out of 10 times. I just want to have fun with my friends and play a casual game night and now we can because of this and we are no longer working towards anything other than to have fun.
In all fairness though, I feel like a lot of players who genuinely desire PVE only servers usually quit sea of thieves after their first exposure. I had a lot of friends that refused to play because of the competitive experience sea of thieves seemed to be. These guys wanted to hang out for a bit and sail the seas but when they saw me constantly scanning the horizon and on edge making sure no one was sneaking up on us, they felt very anxious and exhausted. I personally love the thrill of PVP in sea of thieves and I often play hourglass and I rarely get sunk, however my friends made it very clear that they did not and they refused to continue playing. I feel like there would be a lot of PVE only players and I don't personally think that's a bad thing since they would leave the game anyway if it was still PVPVE. All I think is going to happen is that there will be a shift of players in High Seas, specifically more crews that actually want the PVP experience and aren't afraid of it, so we wont get to sink any more "Day 1 PVE only whiners".
To clear things up these friends of mine were willing to play the game CASUALLY due to it being on game pass and because it had a cartoony vibe. They did not know how dedicated the pvp fanbase actually was. My friends never really planned on playing the game long term or constantly, they were under the impression that the game was more of a social hub for people who enjoyed the pirate theme. These guys were not dedicated to the cosmetic grind, commendations, or pvp. All they wanted was for me to relax and have fun, being on edge 24 7 was not fun for them.
We just want to fish, sail, talk, log off play another game. Its not like they're going to grind. If they want to make money I promise I will bring them to the high seas so it wont be so horrendously boring they are just fetch quests at the end of the day.
I'm max level in every faction besides the PVP factions. I don't want to fight when I'm solo slooping and want to enjoy the new Adventure or Tall Tale that got added recently. Sure PVE servers will initially drain the player base, but the goal of the game is becoming pirate legend and everything after that is up to you. If you want to be a sweaty PvP edge lord, that sinks every ship you see and wants to ruin every new player's experience - go ahead and make them quit the game, but don't complain, that no new players will play the game. If you want to be max level in every faction and flex with it - be my guest. If you want to have some wholesome moments with other crews - go ahead, make them love this game. PvP isn't that bad, but Rare just makes it a choice with PvE servers.
Why do so many people keep basically saying "without inexperienced players to pick on, who are we to fight?" Everyone's argument against this boils down to worry the seas would be empty. If pvp is sooooooo fun wouldn't plenty of people stay on high seas? Won't the seas be now filled with people ready to fight and nobody's gonna have the "I'm on a tall tale!" Or just trying to do achievements. Blurbs mentions how you get less friendly crews this way. Well yea cause players who are nice get dunked on and get told it's their fault for playing the game in the first place, cause it's sea of THIEVES not friends. Some of y'all actively hate people coordinating. I have seen plenty of streams go after people specifically for DARING to alliance. If the seas becomes empty because of this it's very much a "well well, if it isn't the consequences of my own actions"
That's what I am thinking. Maybe PvP sweats should stop and think "wow, why would they take a MASSIVE hit in the grind just to avoid other players?" If they are this salty about not being able to attack newbies and people who want to avoid conflict that badly, then maybe they need to spend some time to self-reflect.
@@10cody7 No it's not and I'm baffled as to how many people have such a shallow way of thinking, this is going to have consequences mostly for the mid-tier players
Well when I first joined the game I couldn't even do a world event let alone stack for hours gathering loot, the type of people that PVE or stack currently are probably still going to be in the game since you would literally have to stack for an entire 18 hours or so just to get near to 1 million. So PVP players still get to sink PVE. I also don't think gold rush is available in safer seas so very long progression. Stackers actually get hurt a lot since they won't be able to post their pictures of the HUGE HAUL on social media without people calling it fake 😂@@chaosmagican
Im probably just gonna use Safer Seas for Tall Tales and time limited events. If im trying to fix this godforsaken shroudbreaker and someone comes up and sinks me while im miles deep in a dungeon, that demoralizes me from continuing it because augh, god, I gotta do all that crap over again!
Seriously good point. You're going to get a lot of weenie crews that play a little safer seas with no intent to ever get another player to shoot at them, realize it's not sunshine and rainbows due to the gimped rewards/experience and then will transition right into alliance servers.
Big agree. I think if the level cap was much lower then this could be a good change. Also not discussed in this video is how this affects crews with mixed affinity for PVP. I’ve got a group of 8 or so friends who like to play. 3 of us love PVP, 3 of us hate it, and 2 can go either way. The ones that hate PvP are going to try safer seas, and even with reduced gold and rep, I’m not sure if we’ll ever get them back. As an okay PvPer who already made legend, I don’t think I’ll ever try safer seas, unless it’s to do tall tales with PvP-averse friends
Me and my friends stopped playing sot because we had too much experiences with seeing pvp crews randomly appear on the map by server hoping to b-line toward us because we had an emissary on. We only open the game from time to time for the rares new tall tales so for me making a only pve gameplay an option will help a lot of ex-players like me to try to go back into the game. Yes maybe by doing it it took away the base of the game, to get good by trying again, but not everyone has the time or skill to really go into that.
These are my thoughts. A new player happy to stick with safer seas is still a player. Considering that this person might not have even touched sea of thieves without this new addition, that's only a net positive. The more people buy the game, the more that stick around to buy pirate emporium sets (mostly inspired by cross over tall tales which they can now enjoy risk-free), the more money is in Rare's pocket, and the more budget they have to produce high quality updates for the rest of us. Even if what you said is all true, that they might never engage in the multiplayer, good business for rare hopefully means a good future for the game as a whole.
I think if we try and see the positive possibilities here, safer seas could act as a filter to condense the player base of high seas to those that are willing to interact with other crews and emotionally stable enough to handle loosing their loot. Of course this wont work 100 % but if we get more lively encounters, i am willing to train a bit to adjust my skill level to the raised danger from all the tame players leaving the high seas.
After i got Pirate Legend, the pvp servers close back then. Game turned toxic fast. I could care less about the shared experience. The hackers and such just made the game unplayable for my friends and i, we left for other games. Now a few of us are thinking of returning with this Safer Seas. Let all the cheaters and toxic folk duke it out on their own. Aimbot the heck outta each other for all we care. We'll be enjoying ourselves like we used to a few years back.
I think the problem too is that when you first start the game you need to get your ass beat a few times to learn the game. The safer seas option is almost like an illusion and not really preparing players for the high seas. I think a lot of players will get a miss conception of the game by playing without other crews and then when they switch to high seas it’ll be a rude awakening
I mean, I have met many, many new players, and they don't even wrap their heads around basic things like how to use cannons properly, how to simply sail the boat properly, etc. idk if you are aware the level of incompetency many new players have. Putting them in a PvP situation and they won't learn anything they'll get beat so badly and quickly.
@@ryandickson2224 the reason your loot has value is because there’s a chance you can loose it. The game has been out for 5 years and people have been hitting pirate league without an easy mode. It’s not about because the best. It’s a miss conception though. LETS PLAY A PIRATE GAME WITHOUT THE THREAT OF OTHER PEOPLE BEING PIRATES.
As someone who will never play Safer Seas because I love the chaos of random crews dropping in on my activities, I dont understand why anyone is upset about this update.
actually what i think they should've done is make a brutal sea, extreme difficulty with High rewards, the point is to attract highly skilled players away from noobs, i want to play sea of thieves to steal from someone who's been grinding for hours. i dont want to do any PVE i just want to kill and steal.
As much as PvE servers are cringe I think that PvP players dramatically overestimate just how many players are PvP inclined. PvE isn't a "subset" of players it's the bulk of players. There's a reason that Arena and hourglass fell to the way side, no matter how vocal the tiny minority of PvP'ers is they can't even keep enough numbers to keep the most basic PvP features populated.
