it is a very shitty aircraft but due to the skills and bravery of these brave Vietnamese pilots, this supposed to be a shitty aircraft has gone from shitty to one of the most legendary aircraft of the Cold War era. i had respects on it.
It's a testament to their bravery that they went up even though they were routinely outnumbered as much as 40:1. And a testament to their skill that so many of them were successful despite those insane odds. Those guys were absolute badasses.
@@nakamura0380 Old comment but dam Its a bad one. The mig21 was one of the Best aircraft ever made. This "shitty aircraft is still serving and is still shooting down f16 today. this "shitty" aircraft shot down more f4 fantoms than the entire VPAF mig21 arsenal trough the entire war.
There is pilot from rusia. Have look. tool,white face,difrent strukture of the face,diferent body... :-) vietnamese not have pilots.... :-) It is has been secret...
@@Khanhdq70 In Vietnam not byl Vietnam pilots...only rusia pilots. Vietnam pilots didnt been good. Vietnam people working at AA guns and rocket...not in figter. At this film is rusia pilot....
@@Khanhdq70 I undestand you are Vietnamese from first time-see name. But at the film the pearson is rusia - toll,diferen strukture body from other people at this film. - have look.
@@davegeisler7802 one thing is sure that MiG-21s weren't built for rate fights & long engagements. They are like rockets so it's best to use them for hit & run tactics. Whoever fields the MiG-21s must decide & plan carefully.
The Mig 21 was at the beginning of the war a very precious asset the the NV air force. The lost of one of those air craft was a very harsh loss. So they where used quasi exculisvly to engage US bombers and the pilots reaseved order to avoid dogfight with US fighter as much as possible
It should be the opposite, the Vietnamese MIGs usually have a big disanvantage about long range weapons compare to US aircraft and cannot carry much of missile or weapons or bombs, so the NVA pilots were instructed to encounter or lauch suprise interceptions in short range so they can disanvantage of US aircraft long range weapons and force the US pilots to throw off the bombs early and get into a dogfight with them and that's when the mobility advantage of the Migs will be affective.
@@jonistmp8484 It turned out that it was to boost morale since in Russian plans it was the first operation to be completed to capture and neutralize Ukrainian airspace the ghost never existed
@@Dejaelvicio507 except the " ghost" do exist, but he died. then again 40 Russian planes were shot down by him. sounds like a good idea to raise a moral
I absolutely look so shiny and dapper in this. Good job to the film crew for capturing me in all my glorious beauty. The best film footage of me to ever exist.
I saw a Vietnamese gifted Mig 21 at the Royal Thailand airforce museum. I was surprised to see how small a plane it is. There are Several on display in Hanoi Vietnam.
Waiting for Thai f16 😂 maybe Griffen one they retire or av8 :) that would be great exchange for our museum 😆 btw visit Vietnam airforce museum there is a giant MI6 ; rare ka25 ; some america plane and heli beside Soviet and some domestic made plane in the 80-90s that pretty much Vietnam version of cesna 😆
@@joegodbout8338 airforce one ? Each branch have it own museum ; the air force guy have some neat thing that only they have :) ; the military history museum doesn't have thing that airforce got :) like giant MI6 and rare mi24a
we have the same colour of passports, by your comment even those who are dreaming to be ace pilot are granted even in a painfull way, it's just right positions of the sun dial with a great purpose when someone lost their way
In the 80s we lived in Várpalota (Hungary). This was the time of socialism in hungary (not as bad as communism, we have light socialism with many western goods) and near the city of Várpalota leans one of the biggest practice range of Hungary. Artillery, tanks and airplanes, helicopters practice the shooting there. In the 80s MIG21s fly over the city literally 100 meters high, and turn to target. We saw firing missiles and machinegun action when we went to the small hills of Várpalota. Mi 24s and Mi8 fly over our houses 10-15 meters high! We see the pilots. I never forget the sound of the Migs. So loud so brutal. And the sound of the rotors of the helicopters. I was 12-14 but I hear the difference from distance if a helo comes and know what type it is. One of my biggest surprise a Mig23 fly over our houses... I only once saw that type of jet, but man... it was so beautiful! Fly with closed wings (delta wing position)
I have always had an high degree of respect towards Vietnamese people. In order to get and mantain their indipendence they had to fight against Japanese, French, Americans and even repel a Chinese Invasion.
@@bellotacositacandy Unfortunately for Afghani people they really are located in the center of the Heartland, to use a Mackinder geo-political definition. Yes they are brave, too. If they were left alone in the 60's (like the iranians in 53) they would be today developed and peaceful countries.
It`s a rare footage. Even F-4 Phantom jets had uphill battle against North Vietnamese Mig21s. Though North Vietnam was one of the poorest countries in the world in 1960`s, their strong patriotism defended their airspace against the United States.
It was more the Russians and the Chinese who defended the airspace, because there were pilots from these two countries in action. fr.sputniknews.com/russie/201809301038299807-pilote-sovietique-disparu-vietnam/
@@gromiko1350 Unfortunately, I do not read French, but it`s highly probably that Russian and Chinese pilots contributed to the defense of North Vietnamese airspace. Even during the Korean War, Russian pilots played an important role for North Korean and Chinese military forces because Chinese and North Korean pilots were not competent enough to fight against well-experienced US pilots.
@@gromiko1350 unfortunatly no chinese 4 or more russians guy drive bomber, only 1 russian become ACE in mig 21, most of them came for training in the North not fighting in the South 10 private pilot from north korea came for training and they willing to fight till their death in Linerbaker 2
@@gromiko1350 there no Soviet or Chinese pilot fight in north Vietnam sky 😂 there is Soviet trainer pilot who fly mig21 trainer unarms version but they only fly around the airfield teaching mig17 pilot how to fly mig21 ; there is north Korean pilot fought during Vietnam war but they get wreck by american ; Kim IL sung donate a bunch of mig19 bur demand it be flown by north Korean to gain expérience and Vietnam allow ; they didn't last long before they were recall ; north Korean down pilot grave were still in Vietnam up to 2000s befor north Korea bring them back ; Vietnam is not Soviet or north Korea or china 😆 if you can read vietnamese you will know everything about the war 😂 tons of vet on Facebook and military forum and the don't mind telling thing about the war ( btw you can visit the north Korean pilot grave as we still keep it as a tribute to them 14 north Korean pilot die before they withdrew the rest of the pilot they claim to shot down 2 plane )
I love history and I love historic airplanes. In a small way, a VERY small way, I feel like I kinda participated in a blink of history. Nixon drafted my older stepbrother and sent him to fight in Vietnam. He didn't want to go, but they threatened to throw him in prison if he didn't ( so much for "free America".) At first, I didn't really understand what all this was about. I was pissed at the government for kidnapping my stepbrother- who was a VERY cool and peaceful person. The US Army made him a door gunner in a helicopter. I became an anti-war peace protestor. Haha! So I did participate in history- sorta. This video is really cool. I think it's important to see " the other side's " story. Otherwise, all we have left is what the US government tells us. ( Can you say P-R-O-P-A-G-A-N-D-A ?) I've been to the US Vietnam war memorial. How many Americans died in that war? 55,000? TOO DAMN MANY! But wait, not many Americans know ( or care) how many VIETNAMESE died in that war. In 1995, Vietnam released its estimate on how many Vietnamese PEOPLE died in the conflict. As many as 2 MILLION Vietnamese CIVILIANS of both sides died, and over 1,100,000 NVA / VC perished. The US government estimates between 200,000- 250, 000 South Vietnamese military personnel died. Good God! DAMN! That is a LOT of human beings! The US government said, "we were over there fighting for our freedom." WTF!? It was a civil war. If the US had not become involved, and drug it out, the war would have lasted weeks, maybe. The Vietnamese (both sides) had the right to self-determination. Natural selection. The people of North AND South Vietnam were fighting for self-determination. Both should be respected and honoured. This video shows heroic pilots, patriots. I can see parallels to the American Revolution. War is such a horrible, horrible waste of human lives.
@@ashokiimc the nose cone is different only in the Mig-21F and F-13 series, in this movie es clear a Mig 21 bis because they have a larger dorsal spine than the MF, basically
Few people know that the North Vietnamese army also used jet fighters in addition to air defense, but with very small number of aircraft compare to Us air force. Nva air defense jet fighter platoon participating in the war, it was mainly used to defend key positions such as the battle of Ham Rong and defend Hanoi from the enemy. US b52 squadron. Jets are mainly MiG 17 and MiG 21 manufactured in the USSR and aided to vietnam war through China . vietnamese pilots also trainned by soviet airforce
@@BELIVE114 It's also rumored although not much as in the Korean war, there were a couple of Soviet pilots who were secretly doing some missions as well, under Vietnamese aliases.
@@kingghidorah8106 **NO** !!! To be realistic, it MUST be a highway to the danger zone! Top Gun WAS a highway to the danger zone! This video is in no way, shape, or form a highway to the danger zone! Can't you fucking people get ANYTHING right? Do you not even understand the critically-important aspect of being a highway to the danger zone? What, are you all asleep? **WAKE UP, AMERICA** !!!
Cool video. But let me make a correction. These are MiG-21bis Izdeliye 75AP airframes. You can recognise them by the larger spine tank, larger intake, RSBN antenna beneath the intake. They had a different engine as well, but it is not visible outside.
This movie is made in 90s and most of air footage are real. In that time all older Mig-21 (1st gen like Mig-21P and Mig-21F) were decommissioned. They use Mig-21PFM and Mig-21bis instead. Although Vietnam airforce don't have that variants during Vietnam war.
Đúng. Phim này được đóng năm 1997....hình ảnh này ở phút thứ 39:58 của phim. Nhìn đồng phục của mấy anh bộ đội phục vụ là biết hình ảnh sau năm 1975...Trước 1975 quân phục rất chính quy vì do Liên Xô - Trung Quốc viện trợ, sau năm 1975 rất khó khăn, quân phục chắp vá lắm...
@@NguyenHung-ii6fc đúng rồi bạn. Phim này quay 1997 tại Yên Bái. Hồi đó diễn viên Mai Thu Huyền còn trẻ (18 tuổi). Bọn tôi thợ máy kéo máy bay ra ụ phục vụ đoàn làm phim.
@Tiến Khanh Nguyễn đang nói mig 21bis mà. Trước 75 đã có mig21 nhưng phiên bản cũ hơn,chỉ mang dc 2 quả tên lửa. Trong phim là mang dc 4 quả là phiên bản sau.
Its wasn't just the American that lost the war. its was the whole Ally . if i am not wrong it was a lot of countries that have the Vietnamese blood on their hands. United States, South Korea, Thailand, Philippines, New Zealand and Australia.
Vietnam Air Forces had sixteen MiG´s 21 and vare strictly forbidden to engage into any dog fights with American planes,because Soviets told them very clearly,thet when loose some of them,don´t get any new one......Mostly all American loses were because of sophisticated anti - aircraft rocket systems from Russia (Soviet Union)...
@@globalnetizen956 the standard engagement tactic with a MIG 21 was : get in fast, launch missiles, break and land - dogfighting was for MIGs 17, possibly 19.
@@fredericculmann7048 So does with American planes, none of them equipped with canon. Those are new generation of planes and to them dogfight mean whoever shoots the missile first.
ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-gzCFLH7HH24.html this is Linerbaker II - Dien Bien Phu on Air we defend the north agaist several waves of US B52 bomber
@@albaviator In my country, the pilots had to wear the pressure suit during a flight, due to safety reasons, as it protects the pilot to a certain degree, in case he has to eject. Perhaps VPAF had a different regulation.
@@IGLArocknroll Don`t know were you are from, but i suspect by your name you are from Hungary maybe...In HUAf like in other eastern block air forces that used MiG fighters they flew maybe once a month in high altitude above 10.000 m, so the high pressure suit was used not ofeten. If you are refering to G-suit, then it was mandatory as you say, it was used in every flight. You also have many videos of hungarian MiG-21 and 23, you can see the pilots flying with normal g-suit and flying costume
@@albaviator You guessed it right, I'm from Hungary. Strange. Two former pilots told me unanimously, that the pressure suit was worn during every flight. Perhaps they have fading memories, or I misunderstood something. One thing is for sure: in Hungarian service, the main role of the "Shiny" (as the Hungarian pilots and ground crew called the MiG-21 fighters) was high altitude interception (as the ground attack role was covered by MiG-15, MiG-17 and later, Su-22 fighters). Anyways, great video, thanks for the upload!
Vietnam used Mig-21 in 3 region of altitude: High altitude (above 10000m), Mid altitude (2000-10000m) and Low altitude (below 2000m) during the Vietnam war. Only the high altitude flight use pressure suit.
Несколько интересных фактов о МиГ-21:Это самый массовый истребитель за всю историю авиации,причём один из самых дешёвых в производстве,в своём классе.При массовом производстве его стоимость была ниже чем у БМП-1.Для запуска двигателя необходимо было иметь 5 л. авиа бензина,иначе двигатель было просто не запустить ...
@@user-gd8uq9ds8w Уточняю для особо въедливых,но не сильно осведомлённых:МиГ-21 выпускался в различных модификациях с 1958 по 1984 год.За всё это время на него устанавливалось более пяти модификаций двигателей.Базовый двигатель Р11Ф-300 и две последующие его модификации имели запуск предусматривающий использование бензина Б-70(штатный бак 4.5 литра).На более поздних модификациях начиная с 1975 года применялись двигатели Р11Ф2С-300 ,Р13Ф-300 ,Р-25-300 система запуска была уже безбензиновая...Так что учите мат.часть,прежде чем публично умничать,причём на абсолютно любые темы :-) ...
Still didn't answer my question. If a US pilot was close enough to see the large red numbers on the front side of the Migs they just shot down (without exploding) did any ever inquire about the pilot if he ejected?
Da da da. Yest lyudy kotori pomyat avtomobili tozhe. Gaz69 v vengriye tyeper 20. 000 euró. A ya sedyel v mig21, eto bylo v viztavke na dyetskom plosadye. Nyet maket a odyn original
Have they ever made a War Movie based on the Air War over North Vietnam and im not talking about bombing or something like Bat 21 but an air war that made the Navy come up with a school called Top Gun 😊
This doesn't look like Kep airfield to me. I worked near Kep when the planes came in by rail and were being assembled at Kep. I think that is only airbase that had the Mikoyan21 at the time.
Rubbish. Vietnam was a police action not a war. USA had its hand tied with ROE. If it was a war North Vietnam would have been annihilated. For example the USA could not bomb the ships supplying war logistics in Hanoi harbour. It would have been a turkey shoot for the Americans. You really think today if the USA declared war on North Vietnam they would have a hope in hell of winning.
@@brianwilliams3345 I never heard of a police operation involving 2.29 million military personnel, and resulting in 58,169 killed, 304,000 wounded, and 75,000 severely disabled. Sounds like war to me.
@@fredericculmann7048 No, because their hands were tied! They were only allowed to drop three times as much bombs on Vietnamese civilians as the total dropped in the second world war... Poor guys didn't stand a chance of winning without nukes :/
The MiG 21 BIS was not operational during the war, but that much artistic license is understandable. NVAF/VPAF pilots knew their MiGs, and their tactics were constantly innovative. Hats off to them for flying against all odds, against the largest and best equipped air forces in the world, and still scoring kills! 🫡
In the video, approximately 0:46, can anyone say if the mounted weapons are RS-2US or R-3S or maybe PBP-2-3S missiles? Looks like 2 of each on each wing, but I cannot tell which type.
Did US pilots ever do any kind of "follow up" or curiosity of a plane they shot at or down what happened to the pilot? Since they all had such large numerals on the sides. Perhaps we would know if there ever was such an ace as "Col Tomb."
Im Vietnamese and i can confirm that "Col Tomb" maybe was just a fiction pilot. I've read many sources of both sides and the best ace pilot in Vietnam war just got 9 kills (3 F-4, 3 F-105, 1 F-102, 2 UAV) while "Col Tomb" got 13 or 14. The only mig-21 that have 14 stars(14kills) is the one named "4324" but it was flown by many pilots. Maybe "Col Tomb" was a rumor of our side to influence the opponent's psychology or maybe it was rumored by the American pilots themselves.
the us did care about the migs but the main threats to them were the SA-2 sam systems because most of the fighters and bombers of usaf were shot down by sam, especially the B-52( only 1 b-52 was confirmed shot down by the mig-21). They did get the sa2 systems after Israel won the 6-day war and obtained them from Egypt and they did counter us by many electronic countermeasures and we had to upgrade the radar over and over to win against them. We built so many decoy to avoid the bombing and anti-radar missile too( That's why the US says we have launched more missiles than we have announced)
You need to grow the brain. Col Tomb was a fake story created by Randall " The Crook" Cunningham to make his name shines. That crook later went to jail trying to scam people, google his name.
There are three major problems with the myth of Col Toon. First of all, Toon/Tomb is not a Vietnamese name. Secondly, he would have been flying two different types of aircraft. The markings on the MiG-21 which showed 13 victory stars and the MiG-17 he allegedly flew against Cunningham and Driscoll. It is also highly unlikely that so well-credentialed a pilot, with so many kills would not have received a considerable amount of press attention. The propaganda advantages were simply too big to ignore. In short, like so many other things in Vietnam, this was the Americans tilting at windmills again.
They were armed with 4 Vympel K-13 ( AA-2 "Atoll") infrared missile. K-13 is the russian version of the american AIM-9L sidewinder missile. The K-13 was developed with reverse engineering of the AIM-9L
@@Archer89201 the ones in this video are further developments more on par with the AIM-9D, identifiable my their differing pylons, differently shaped seeker heads, and black noses
Probably scrambling because of Chinese intrusion of their northern airspace. Vietnam & China DID go to war in the late 70's and yes Vietnam did come out on top largely because of their combat experience with the US
At 1979, Chinese dont dare to send Aircraft to battlefield, they only use artilery. Sky is our, my farther is Mi8 pilot at that time, we easly aid frontline by helicopter. Not like Vietnam - US war era.
Read my links. You will see heroes. In the world there will be very few people who launch fighters into the B52 Flying Fort. a suicide missile. can only be Vietnamese pilots
In total, the United States military lost in Vietnam almost 10,000 aircraft, helicopters and UAVs (3,744 planes,[3] 5,607 helicopters[2] and 578 UAVs[1] ). The Republic of Vietnam lost 1,018 aircraft and helicopters from January 1964 to September 1973.[4] 877 Republic of Vietnam aircraft were captured at war's end (1975)[5] Of the 2750[6] aircraft and helicopters received by South Vietnam, only about 308 survived (240 flew to Thailand or US warships[7] and 68 returned to the United States[8]). The United States, along with their allies (The Republic of Vietnam, South Korean, Australian, Thailand, New Zealand), lost about 12,500 aircraft, helicopters and UAVs. North Vietnam lost 150 - 170 aircraft and helicopters.
