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Wasn't sure about a few possible inclusions. Delayed Wakeup has always been an important element to NRS games so perhaps it should have been in the MK9 section. Air Kombat returned in MK1 but it felt a bit strange to mention twice when the function is actually pretty similar to MKA, minus the infinites. Dash blocking is 8/10. Enjoyed it a lot but prefer run.
Hey don't worry about it. Competitive Tekken player and former mk player here. I still enjoy your channel and love mk. Thank you for letting us know these inclusions here! 😁
also given that there are some arenas in mk4 that have stones to pick up and throw, would that count as it's own mechanic? (like map interaction in mkx)
My issue with Variations is that I felt like it limits certain characters. It made no sense to have moves that didn’t take up a input slot not be apart of the base move set imo
It's weird cos I agree, but in other ways it also opened them up. Like Sonya having a really cool drone variation, and a cool grenade variation. She probably wouldn't have had those, or at least both, in a game with no variation. But then some variations, like Displacer, feels like it's giving a character a move they should have anyways
Also, it slightly changes the character's visual, I know it's petty, but it always bothered me that I couldn't pick variation AND appearance individually, sometimes it just looks lame or overdesigned
@Nobody-wu8so ok so while I see the points your making, I think your missing there point. (I believe) what they were talking about is how some of the moves that required slots didn't make sense and should of just been apart of their base kit. Rambo is a good example of this. His variation move that give his main string a grab should of just been part of his base kit, and NOT cost 2 slots. Again, this is assuming I understand the original post correctly. Apologies if I'm incorrect. Having said that, what I just described is my main issue with variations.
@Nobody-wu8so also, it can't be objectively wrong how you described it. mk1 doesn't have variations so it's not fair to base the validity off their comparison in this regard.
@@birdfacemd It was discovered within the first year, but wasn't seen used much until the following year and beyond. it's still a VERY rare thing to even occur in tournament.
A notable exclusion that started in the very first Mortal Kombat: the block button. It alters the way footsies are played on a fundamental level. While it isn't the only series with a block button, I think it was the first to feature it.
Pressing a Block button is a different *input* than other fighting games, but blocking isn’t a new mechanic. Also, whether you agree or not, this video focuses on mechanics that differ within the world of mortal kombat, and the block input hasn’t changed since 1992.
It's definitely notable, because the block button effectively nullifies cross ups, an offensive option that proves viable in fighting games where you hold back to block. Teleport punches would also be buffed slightly without the block button (though I'm sure they'd still be easy to block on reaction)
I swear nobody watched this video with the sound on. He’s not comparing block in MK to block in other fighting games. Block has been the same since MK in 1992.
I agree with you on the run mechanic, I think thats why 3, 4 and X are so much fun to play. Also I liked the variations in MKX, it reminded me of Melty Blood. Had a lot of fun just labbing out combos.
I feel like that mechanic was never properly explained in the game except in the move list when you check D2 stats but who would bother looking at it when everyone knows what it is anyway, so that mechanic remains somewhat hidden
Yeah. I never played 3d Era but mk feels so behind compared to other fg out there, and if we won't get an actually good assist system, a 3d style game with stances would provide something no other game does rn
Ever since I discovered this channel, I've been confused when I'd see Quick Fall being used in Armageddon because I only ever played the game on PS2, felt like it was just a mechanic I'd never known existed, but being added for the Wii version? That explains it.
A small note arguing for MK8/MKX x-rays: they're unbreakable damage. In the niche case you need to secure a win and have a setup to actually land an x-ray, but the opponent has two bars, the x-ray is an option, albeit a very costly one. Example: MKX Kitana is usually floating in bar and with the fact that her x-ray is an overhead with a fast startup, a d1 poke when she has full bars can potentially end the round. Once again, x-rays are incredibly costly and niche.
Yall are way too hyper focused on competitive. Xrays are amazing spectacle/hype generators in a casual setting where no one even knows how to do the breaker.
Hey great video dude! Hey can you perhaps do a top 10 WORST MK Mechanics in the history of MK, like Breakaways for one lol. Always fun watching your vids! But this was also cool how you rate each one in your opinion, that works too.
I've been watching this channel off and on for a while now, and I kinda' how NRS watches it too, to catch gems like this video, hah. Thakns for the content, folks!
Amazing video, love your passion sir! The gameplay of MK11 is the most fun I have with, I only agree with breakaway/armor break, everything else I prefer in that game, including amplify moves over enhanced/EX moves. 100% agree on kameos in MK1, great idea but still needs some work. I think MKX/MK11 variations are still something that give better replay value to the game, even though the kameo combinations seem to be endless.
I fail to see how the wakeups in MK11 were worse than no-resource invincible wakeups in MK9. I also fail to see how your opponent having wakeup options changes your approach on knockdown; since if any kind of wakeup exists your options boil down to meaty or not, and if you go for a meaty when your opponent does an invincible or armoured wakeup you're getting hit anyway. Not to say there wasn't a problem with the MK11 system, there absolutely was, and it was when it applied i-frames, they were applied during the "getup" animation because there were no OTG attacks, so a regular wakeup button or jump had a very brief window of "well, they haven't got up yet so they're still invincible", even when you could see your attack "hitting" them. Thinking of MK9 though, invincible back dash deserves a mention, and the way it changed and needed stamina in MKX. It's kind of funny how this video highlights the intended mechanics and yet makes you realise so many games had the meta formed around unintended mechanics.
Seeing his gameplay again made me really miss MK11 Rain. He’s my main again in MK1 but damn, I like 11’s version of him so much more in cosmetics and his moves
This was an excellent video, pretty insightful too. Speaking from personal experience, my favorites include the MKX/11 Variations, pretty much everything MK9 brought to the table, and the stances from the 3D games. I'm also a fan of fighting games giving their stages something to interact with outside of just looking pretty. That's why I like both the arena traps and interactables, contentious as they can be. As much as I love MK11, I definitely agree on those criticisms. Breakaway and the regenerating meters aren't particularly good. And MKvsDC's mid-match minigames might be the worst gimmicks in the whole series. But overall, I appreciate that the devs are willing to shake things up as much as they do, it keeps the games from getting stagnant or obsolete. And on average, the worst mechanics in MK and Injustice don't tend to get as obtuse or annoying for me as some games can get.
Having played from MK9, and including the Injustice games, Fatal Blow is easily my least favourite mechanic. MK11 hqd enough issues to stop me playing it anyway but Fatal Blow almost makes me want to drop MK1, even though I mostly like the game
I gotta give it to MK11 for turning the cinematic super moves into something you can actually watch in matches. Meter is so fundamental to anything you want to do that Xrays were not gonna be seen in high level matches.
Ahhh I know it's MK but Injustice mechanics were so GOOD. hope we see them again some day. Push block and air escapes were so beloved between my roommates and I
Firstly, you forgot the Jump Cancel mechanic in MK1. Also, I actually really liked the Intractables, this added a lot of stage awareness to the games, and yes it does fits to both MKX and MK11, as well as MK4, and MKD and MKA which also had them. And for MKX, they actually make the Rushdown aspect more fun as it both makes it more balanced to escape while also can be used to make unique combos, same thing with MK11 as it also increases the neutral in that game. Krushing Blows were excellent too, they really showcased the read-based gameplay that MK11 had. Overall my favorite mechanics in all Mortal Kombat games are: Intractables, Death Traps, Air Kombat, 3D Stance system, Variation system, Krushing Blows, Fatal Blows, and the Kameo System.
I absolutely loved variations. This made MKX have so much depth cuz we basically had 99 characters. Which then made me absolutely hate kustom variations in MK 11, in my opinion it was done so poorly. I also hated the fact that krushing blows replaced execution to get high damage. People have different reasons why they didn't like mk11 and those two were my main ones. Every other MK Ive enjoyed and mechanics included in them.
I loved the variation system in mkx but I think something that would’ve made it better was to have the option for you to switch into the stances mid gameplay. Similar to how we do with variation kameos like tremor and khameleon
I HATE Kameos, imagine a tag team game where all those characters are apart of the main roster! No variations, full move sets, Mkx style run/stamina system, & bring back Kotal and D’vorah!!
That doesn't seem particularly fair. Kameo characters aren't playable because kameos are easier to implement than a full character. It's either a Kameo or nothing for a lot of these marginal characters like Shujinko and Mavado
What about the enhanced uppercut from MK1 where if you duck a throw and use the uppercut, you can burn 2 bars of meter to get a jump follow up combo extension? You know, that thing that’s almost never used? Love your vids I’m just being annoying 😊 keep it up
I don't know if this counts as a mechanic, but MK2 added crouching low punch, which didn't exist in MK1, since either punch would trigger an uppercut when crouching. I'm pretty sure these crouching pokes are important in MK2. Also, you didn't mention the Mercy mechanic from MK3 which was pretty prominent in competitive MK11 when it returned.
The 3d era has stances, and the NRS era has variations, but i personally categorize them as the same thing. Only 3d era use variations all in game and variations limits what the 3d era gave us. I so want to try stances in the NRS era on a 2d playing field. I love the variations, but I hate that it limits each character's abilities, so stances would be worth trying again imo.
Seeing Mocap lay down on the ground literally made me 😂… that’s the dumbest thing ever! Never owned MK on the Wii so I didn’t know that even existed, what were they thinking 😂😂😂
okay technically MKX has 4 variations. The base three you get from the start for each fighter and you cannot forget about the *No variation* as well. It offered original skins and base moves from older games.
No mention of Kreate-a-Fighter? While it is not a mechanical feature on its own, custom movesets certainly are and it's certainly not a game mode like Krypt or Konquest either. Also should have mentioned fatalities, brutalities etc. too :P
I really hate the run/stamina system (mk3,umk3,mk4,mkx) but really like the dash canceling/block dashing system (mk9,mk11,mk1) because it's less commitment, more controlling and allow more playstyles in my opinion.
Honestly I thought KBs made sense a flying kick going faster than 30 mph should break a couple ribs 🤷🏿♂️ I think it should have came back but to a smaller degree as you mentioned not completely for combo extensions but I enjoyed alot of the applied stats like bleed/burn dot damage etc
I love krushing blows. It increased the hype of matches 100x imo. I didn't like all the requirements which rendered some kb not worth going for or impossible to get. As well as easy damage taken, which doesn't bother me outside of an easy mashable, no skill needing, non-reading, uppercuts. If they had gotten rid of the uppercut KB, I believe the players would have been much happier with kb in MK11.
I agree with most things here, but i really dont like Fatal Blows man, I liked x-rays more, since there was hype when someone used it. If a player used an X-ray it most probably was in a tricky situation and it was their only smart option. What im saying is, that it was a hard decision to make, but if done right the whole match turns your way. But with fatal blows?... Well you have to change your game-plan when the opponent gets to low health, i mean its a HUGE reward for losing. I think that a super should be harder to pull of if it is given for free to the player or it should do less dmg. The best thing to do is to just make it cost bar again and buff the dmg. That way it will be hard to do and it will cost everything, but you get more dmg. Also it should be very easy to punish if blocked/dodged, like 100 frames, so if you miss, you are screwed for sure. This way it will be worth using the traps that characters may have, like kitana and quan chi from mk1 with their traps. EDIT: Btw i meant that it will be worth for newer players to learn how to use the traps, since there will be more of a chance to use them.
I agree that X-Rays are better than Fatal Blows, mostly because nobody ever used X-Rays, so you rarely had to see a ten billion year long cutscene mid-match.
No mention of Object Toss in MK4? or Weapon Impale in MKDA? or the Battle States (the tri-color gauge) in MKD? Or the Meter Separation in MK11? Or the finisher types across the franchise? (I mean technically they are all a mechanic)
I’m probably in the minority but aggressor felt like an idea that could be used for old school classic Brutality finishers, or as a way to drastically speed up the pacing by allowing some MK X features to return like restanding grab cancels and a better dashing speed/run feature to use the temporary attack buff in full effect. Breakout is still the worst feature from 11, the only redeeming way it can return is if you are able to get back up immediately or replace it entirely for tech rolls from the Smash Bros series. There are still other mechanics that feel like they can be recycled and improved on like the regenerating meter system (only up to 1 bar, the rest has to be earned) and short hops if they lead to combo openers but that would be way too much work and I highly doubt enough people would like them.
@@InTheKitchenWristStirFry I get it, it was something new and unique. I think it could be expanded on but I'm always up for a new mechanic being tried. It may work, it may not work. At least they tried it.
For me personally i hate the last breath mechanic, i do an unsafe move to chip you out and you can just survive it an then punish me ? However i love the up block, to be fair its need some work maybe a higher reward but also a higher con , but it keeps jump spamming opponents on check
Personaly, i prefer X-ray over Fatal Blow, tbh i think it makes the comeback factor a little TOO real. It sucks having the lead for 90% of the round and still losing if the opponent lands a hit before you can finish them. It is better in MK1 than MK11 but idk, i think i might prefer the rare occurences of the X-rays
I have always felt since the 90s , every character should be able to parry. Make it a 3 to 4 input move and have 1 for highs and 1 for lows. Every form of martial arts has blocking and parrying, so why should some characters get it, and the majority don't always have been my question?
Mk11 could have been better if the mechanics were done well Krushing blow was something that really peaked my interest but some characters having theirs attached to mix ups or safe attacks really made me hate it
I feel like krushing blows should’ve cost meter or something they where just too free u go for one grab get uppercut and lose 40+ percent of your health and then after get hit by fatal blow then you lost and you got tea bagged I still have nightmares
I thought the x-ray was good for new players in mkx. i used it until i learned how to play the game. im not a fan for fatal blow 2 button combacks are lame. The run button is cool, and i hope they implement run during combos only in the future. Mk11 was so hype during competition but not fun if it had old wakeup combo breaker meter system mk11 would have been perfect, no fatal blow or kb. I hate the kameo system in mk1.
