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Bro i agree technical department is the best work in ps but storytelling is the primary barrier one has to cross to appreciate artistic brilliance which is where it wobbled, nonetheless overall it is a decent dualogy

​@@krishnasimhavemulapalli7124 I just don't get what is wrong with the storytelling..... The storytelling especially the character interactions are the best part of the duology

@@geetadhumane5793 there were some beautiful moments especially in part 2,that is why I liked part2 but from a neutral audience perspective like me i felt , apart those moments remaining scenes felt flat and that climax didn't help..my best scene is nambi telling AK that Ps is alive...what an actor vikram is!

The film is fuck all about Tamil history, culture and pride . And the novel as well. 👎

​@@krishnasimhavemulapalli7124 okay so u are on the other side of the Climax debate.I get that.. It's an hard pill to swallow. For me the climax worked like a charm, I am not exaggerating when I say that I teared up when I saw my favorite part from any novel ever on the big screen (Jayam Ravi crushing it with his acting❤.. Also the Yaanai Paghan scene with PS anthem.. Giving some serious goosebumps) I'll explain the POV.. I read the books when I was like 12 yrs old, but before reading them I knew the OG history and the entire Madhurantakan thing. So even at that time I was a bit sceptical abt the Sendhan twist. The only reason it worked for me was because of Kalki's God tier writing, but I always had the thought that no one else, literally no one else other than Kalki can convince that a person who has spent his whole life selling flowers, who has 0 knowledge of Rajniti and battle experience, became the King of the Chozha empire (GOT season 8 literally proved it with their ending). But still the Pattabhishekam remains my favorite thing ever, and the reason being Arunmozhi, him sacrificing the crown, doing the Thiaga Sigaram.. That is such a beautiful character moment that Kalki has made.. You can't possibly seperate that moment from Raja Raja Chozha's other great achievements. It didn't matter to me who became the king, only thing that mattered was PS gave up the crown.. Which was shown very well in the film.. (Ya they could have done it even more better.. They could have added 10 more minutes after the war as Thanjavur prepares for the Corronation when Arunmozhi and Vanathi have their proposal scene from the book where he confides in her his real ambitions of expanding the empire.. And give us a subtle hint of what's in his mind.. That he is fed up with the bloody fight for the throne, and he just doesn't want it.. We get some of that during VD's trial with all those close ups. But it would have worked even better.. Lot better if we had it sink in a bit more) But I get why people can get disappointed with the Climax... Only way I can defend Mani Sir here is by saying that no director in the world could have made that plot twist work in a film... It might be made to work in a web series (completely different discussion).. But never ina movie.. No matter how many parts you make.. There are some liberties a book gives u.. That a film never does

Maniratnam deliberately did that cause he didn't want anyone saying he copied Rajamouli. So he wanted to make the war sequences in a unique way and he did.

@@mathanr4781 The reason why he did that doesn't matter,but war gives no impact on audience is the truth...u can say he tried a different thing but it didn't work,it's ok..

@@krishnasimhavemulapalli7124 Can't agree more. The whole movie's (including 2 parts) war sequence is completely a liability to the film (except PS 2 climax) . And they could have kept the Novel's climax. If they had done that, it would have been received well by the audience

So okay I am not trying to defend the war sequences or anything.. They were sterile and no one can change that fact... But after rewatching PS2 recently I noticed some brilliant story telling in the final war sequence (which made me feel that a little bit more work could have made them freaking amazing.) So the Sri Lanka battle when Arunmozhi's forces were landing on the shore... They were attacked by the Lankan army who were hiding in the dense forests... The arrows were coming but the soldiers weren't visible... We get a couple of Closeups of Arunmozhi keenly observing this... Skip to the battle of PS2, Arunmozhi uses the same tactics against the Rashtrakuta forces and marches only after demolishing their first line of defence.. Which is brilliant storytelling as we see Arunmozhi as the brilliant strategist which he would become in the future... There is also the use of the Elephants under Malaymaan's command.. As the Chozhas were notable users of elephants in combat.. They used to ship thousands of elephants to battle.. So a little historical touch... The stunts performed in the movie all across are fantastic and really highly dangerous.. But the sad part they weren't filmed the way they were supposed to.... The staging was great...the presentation.. Not so much

@@geetadhumane5793 i understand and appreciate your point. There was also mild differences in the way of killing between karikalan and arunmozhi, while karikalan was ruthless and wild .. arunmozhi's killing spree was methodical

exactly, the camera work was so shaky and done so poorly both in ps1 and ps2

Wrong, I felt as if I'm in the mid of that chaos of a war. Stunt choreo is ok ok but camera shake made me feel I'm there.. in short I think they achieved what they aimed for...

@@KarthickSelv war scenes were alright but action scenes (especially the ones with karthi) were like a masala film directed by Hari. Didnt match the tone of the rest of the film. Those slow motion zooms just felt awkwardly placed

OG means?

@@tomandjerryvideos97 OG na Ravi Varaman matum dhaan current la.Neenga sonna aatkala oru kalathula King ippo illa.

It's already there

@@anish6665 They weren't there when I had commented, the English subtitles were auto-generated one and highly inaccurate.

There is another conversation on it already in FC. This is out and out PS discussion

Trueee

Both of them have to work together. And at the end, the director decides what both of them should do.

I think the fault lies more with Mani and his writers more than the cinematographer. Mani was the one who conceived those shitty scenes I believe. When you're given shit/silly scenes to work with, you can't make it suddenly look great, even with millions of dollars and great lighting, sets, costumes etc.

@@doyouhaveaminute281 bro....whaatt🤣🤣🤣ever saw baahubali??

@@doyouhaveaminute281 Also with a lot of artificial lighting.

@@doyouhaveaminute281 Agreed.

Nowadays most movies use digital cinematography.

@@shaneethan523 Yeah it's really unfortunate

I watched on Imax it was awesome

even camera work was shitty, what are you talking about. It was shaking too much especially during the action scenes and it was out of focus and even during dramatic acting scenes with vikra, the camera was all over the place.

That is not shaky out of being wrong rather it is shot in a shaky way to setup storyline tremors

I believe you have some issue on a personal level with the camera work in the film. Or you must be a genius of the next level to be able to pass this comment 😂. I would like to have a masterclass/ demonstration from you on how to shoot this film instead in a better way. Please enlighten us.