Ray Tracing in NFS Underground - Not sure how I feel about it 

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That lighting and texturing makes it look like the missing link between Need for Speed carbon and Trackmania 2020 (derogatory)

NFSUG1 has 20+ year old assets that harshly contrast with the RTX mod. RTX mod can't shine when we can clearly see the polygons of cars and buildings. The low quality trees also stand out thanks to RTX remix, so they need to be reworked. The old school reflections should be enabled alongside RT reflections since they clearly look better than RT at this state. Long story short, this game needs months if not years of work before applying this mod to look actually good (aka remake).

i get that they're trying to go for realistic lighting but most of the assets in the game were brighter than you would probably expect from a night-time setting because you'll be able to see your personalized car more predominately. every car with this mod just looks dark metallic

Keep in mind that game doesn't utilise PBR and POM, most of the replaced textures are just upscale, so it's basically only lights were added. The guy who made the mod already working on new road textures, and already made better car reflections, and some wall textures, it will be added in next update.

2:02 You still can do RT in native, you just either have to enable DLAA which is DLSS without upscaling from lower res or just edit the DLSS settings to make it so it doesn't lower resolution.

The art style is completely different with the rtx mod. I really love the default road and car reflections, though it may not be super realistic, I like the clear, visible reflections

What we expected: Need for Speed 2015 levels of visuals What we got: Roblox RTX

Kuru never fails to bring back NFS UG for nostalgia. @15:11 i prefer the screen should be lighter!

So people ... I will be frank here ! 99% of you just doesn't see why rtx remix is actually a blessing for modder ! It is capable of replacing model texture (upscale too) and new light and render engine IN 1 GO ! It make it so mush easier and faster to do so ! And with the help of the new engine, you can use new standard textures on old game ! You don't need to enable pathtracing ! You can just do new model and texture if you want ! It will be just a option for who want it ! Next pathtracing is better in everyway for realism ! BUT REALISM LOOK BAD ! ?? So why are you taking a hotel in another contry for your vacancy? Bc some place look AMAZING! Where i want to get is : if you have realism you can recreate every look possible! You want underground style ? You can ! Just put the effort to edit every location and light sources ! IT TAKE TIME AND A LOT OF PEOPLE TO DO IT !!! so blame yourself for not been able to do it ! Not the tech that make it possible! Dlss look CRAP! Yes bc it is made for portal !!! The current remix engine is in beta !!! Try understanding that this is what we can do with a BETA !! How mush it can improve is unknown! Next is this glitchy effect on curu screen ! It is due to low framerates ! And lack of ray casting ! Modder have to cut fidelity for perf bc it's not well optimise right now ! Modder just want some people to see future potential and recruit new "worker" or passionate people to help !!! Also it make old player want to come back to theses games ! This below is my opinion on visual (do not take it for yourself! Just for sharing) I don't like the light up version! IT LOOK FAKE ! why ? Bc in reality when you drive it look darker ! But it's still a game, and you need to see ! My conclusion is that modder need to add more light source ! Like in real life! Road are illuminated for a reason ! Og game didn't need it bc it was a filter ! With pathtracing come realism ! So you need to account for it ! That's it boys ! Hope no one take my comment personally! HAVE FUN ! EVEN IF YOU PREFER OG GAME ! THAT'S THE MOST IMPORTANT! thank to curu for always putting so mush passion on this !

Main issue of RTX everywhere is that it tries to recreate IRL and IRL is not always looking pretty, look at cloudy day for example, shadows suck then and the sky is gray

A few months and this game will shine way better than the ov. Like with AC's NFS maps, it will take time until it in a state for casual to enjoy

This looks like a super low budget indie steam title some beginner made in a week. There's no way people think this is a improvement

Also, since a couple of weeks Underground 2's RTX Mod also has reflective cars, just need to enable it (in their Discord you can find out how) It's already solved

Killjoy reporting for duty 🫡

This mod is great, but it has the same problem as Minecraft rtx, where going too fast or moving your camera around in dark place with 1 or 2 light sources creates these weird reflections

Wait, i don't see you playing Most wanted night mode , when you tryng to play it?

The tires bro... but it can get fixed definitly. But I don't wanna imagine NFS Undercover with " RTX ". I don't know if there's any RTX mod for that NFS.

I think the RT shadows are nice, but I would prefer to use Reshade to tweak the rest instead.

The headlights on the mx5 do work

The problem with open world games is LOD and culling. They rely heavily on those techniques to achieve realistic and proper performance. Without them those games wouldn't have been playable. However this does not play well with RTX given that it needs proper geometry data to path trace the scene. So if the game keeps switching models and hiding stuff that will make the path traced output change every so often causing distractions like pop in and erroneous lighting and so on

I love the lighting but what modders need to understand that it's better to improve the textures first then improve the lighting

21:16 ok, so ill say why its the truth, unless you're making a very stylised game, modeling anything in a realistic settings takes time, unlike the time where Midnight Club had 3 open worlds, take a look at the amount of detail in those maps, how the makes are modeled, how much of it is just square shapes with textures, at the time? That was acceptable....not anymore. Look at the details of Forza 4 and 5, NFS Heat and Unbound, hell, even Gran Turismo, the amount of detailing, modeling, texturing, programming and testing went from a lvl 20 to a lvl 200 in less than 30 years, devs barely have the time to make 1 open world now, let alone 3, hell, we got a dev from Forza Motorsport that talked on how the 20 tracks he was going to help make had to be cut down to about 5 because the company refused to keep other devs working on it and he himself was cut off from the game weeks before launch. So the issue with this isn't that they cant, they aren't allowed to even try with the current state of the industry.

Khuru do you know how to download nfs 2005 mw black version?

Dlss its main goal is to gain frames per second. without messing up the quality of resolution or anti aliasing that much, dlss is the real big deal to use it especially in the upcoming years where nvidia is developing the dlss (as long as they don't restrict the more advanced dlss in the new upcoming graphics card..)

Just to make people understand why these types of mods are hard to run for modern graphics cards: It's not RAYTRACING It's PATH TRACING Raytracing uses 1 light bounce to calculate light, and afterwards it becomes straight up rasterized lighting like older games. It's why the difference between regular rasterized graphics and raytracing generally only is visible in things like reflections Path tracing on the other hand bounces at the very least 2 times (though can be set to however high your PC can handle it). This is the experimental shit that Cyberpunk introduced for instance. It replaces EVERY lightsource in a game (so either point lights, directional lights, area lights, emissive materials etc) and calculates at the very least 2 light bounces within the world. This is stuff a 3D program like Blender or 3D Studio Max needs MINUTES for to do per frame, yet your GPU needs to do 60 frames of them a second (with DLSS enabled, unless you're running a 4090) That's why it's so hard That's also why it looks so different from the original game (and in a lot of ways, straight up better due to actual shadows forming where they should, light actually affecting things around them due to global illumination and such) Please learn the differences between these terms because too many people call this Raytracing and don't understand what's actually going on under the hood

07:00 Oh come on. To say that DLSS is to "impress teenagers" when many games look better with either DLAA or DLSS Quality (in comparison to native TAA because some devs don't know how to tune TAA) is a bad argument. Just incorrect, not even a bad argument actually.

Looks ok but it needs a lot of work.

reading the comments is giving me an aneurysm and then people wonder why other projects don't get shown while they are being made average nfs fan when they have to understand terms like "work-in-progress" or "proof-of-concept"

i'm also burned out on open world games in general, always the same thing over and over again, just sprinkling side activities to fill the void, not really a fan of speed traps, drift zones and deffinitely hate the outdoors, i'm now appreciating more underground 1 and any racing game that just takes you right into the action with no time to waste. and this goes for not just racing games, i'm prefering linear games all day long.

00:01 to 02:48 Car tex's = paper car

Wonder how this works with something like DXVK.

Is an RTX remix of this game really even necessary? I feel like the reflections were the only graphical effect that aged pretty well in this game (especially with the HD Reflections mod). Not a lot of games from the early 2000s had honest-to-god real-time reflections like UG1 did (they usually opted for pre-generated cubemaps or some wonky post-processing solution). The vanilla lighting does look pretty bad, but implementing DLSS and raytracing, and all the ghosting that comes with these features being implemented in a fast-paced arcade racer, just to add some global illumination and a few dynamic blinking lights around the maps seems like overkill at best and a genuinely bad idea at worst. That all being said, I think RTX Remix does enable the (relatively) easy swapping of models and textures with higher-fidelity ones. It also allows the user to manually place light sources too. That TLC kind of approach seems like the only real path forward to make this work and substantially improve the visuals IMO. Any of the broad brush/automatic tweaks and changes you see in a lot of these new RTX projects just isn't gonna work for this game. It's artstyle is too strong and intentional to be automated.

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Yeeeeeeaaah I'm just gonna stick to non-RTX. It just doesn't look good at all in my opinion but hopefully this can be better in the future

Tbh the lighting for RTX mod is really rough and ngl the nitro look like piss though

Kuru, Check out the new NFS Carbon Redux 2024!!!!!!!!!!

RTX ON!

33 seconds ago is crazy

Need remake with Sleeping Dogs graphics

This is the best UG1 mod I've seen so far, looks really good 👌 The light version looked better overall

the car selection menu layout is STILL SUPERIOR compared to ANY NFS and I honestly wish yall would elaborate on the amount detail and creativity from freakin 2001 and how basic and dead plain modern menus are

The lighting reminds me of the gta defective edition. How they used a lot of baked in lighting that gets lost when you do things like this

Please remember that this is not finished, RTX Remix is a tool and not a mod, and can only go as far as the creator(s) using the tool

NFS underground is the only NFS where I don't quite get the hype. This mod also does not look good. It looks like a low budget mobile game hahaha

first, lul

Obviously RTX Remix was clearly not meant for games like this... It was meant for the 10/10 mastahpiece that is Chess Titans

How tf are yall bashing people thats simply doin things like this out of love and passion for games that are CLEARLY more fun and creative than the childish, handicapped nonsense called Unbound that was CREATED BY A WHOLE DEVELOPEMENT TEAM..... Shit it diabolical😵‍💫🤯😞🤣. I pray the criticism doesnt kill their motivation🙏🏾🤌🏾💙💯 Good vid OGKuruh

Those mods needs to be in Need For Speed Mostwanted 2005 too. If that happen the graphics will be 100 times awesome!!

Seems that a lot of people in the comments didn't look at the mod before criticizing it. It clearly states on the mod page that this is an WIP Alpha and is nowhere close to being finished. It's probably being made by some guy in his free time and they most likely released it because they want feedback on bugs and glitches etc. Don't see why people are so critical of this when it is a free mod that you don't have to download if you don't want to.

While the Path Tracing looks good (to an extent), it not only completely destroys the art style/direction, but it also looks horrible once you start moving at a faster speed. As others have said, it makes the game look like a low budget Unity/Unreal Steam release where the developer relies on the game engine itself to do all of the graphical heavy lifting. I understand that this will probably look *much* better in a year or two, but I don't know how much better the game can look without updating textures and models.

As i've already commented in a different video. Changing lighting completely changes the whole feel of the game and it requires rework of all the assets and lighting settings to look good. I'll pass on those rtx mods. The nfs mw 2005 rtx looks even worse than this though imo

having to put RTX in every old video games DOES NOT mean it looks better

Not everything needs rtx ngl.

I do feel like for an old game, this shit is too excessive and unnecessary Imo it doesn't make the game look any good, if anything it takes away the game's original vibes This is what I personally dislike about people trying to "Remaster" these games, they don't think about the performance and only think about what looks cool and end up making a mess Suffice to say, this is garbage, don't get these if you want a remaster

i think ray tracing and dlss can look very good, cyberpunk, metro exodus. But this really looks like shit

Ngl the game is looking like some crap indie cash grab racing game you found on steam

Underground1 was fine in it's vanilla form, no "updates" or "paid content" needed. Just a full SUCCESSOR in U2 in less than a year... We(car guys and racing game enthusiasts) favored the passion they put into the CAR TUNING that gave a sense of realism in an "arcade racer🤓"not so much graphics... Dam, since I gotta spell sht out Unbound still a game made for kids that need assistance •Low Budget •Lacks Value •Poorly Executed •No Direction •IT WAS FCKIN NERFED •Handling made for Children not Us •MOBILE GAME HANDLING MODEL •High Potential Low Asset Utilization But aite.... ray tracing look good on it too

This is trash. Looking forward to the death of this ray tracing nonsense, majority of its implementation are seriously bad especially to old games like this.

This looks so bad - early-access no budget 1-developer game level of bad :D

god, i hate so much raytracing

Being honest this makes all the cars look like toys