If I remember correctly, the rabbids franchise wasn't the reason killer freaks was eventually canned. It was actually something a lot more stupid than that. While killer freaks started exactly as you described it, they eventually realized it was sort of a terrible idea for the rabbids brand and decided to make it into its more original thing. That's why the title changed from "Killer Rabbids" to "Killer Freaks". The freaks were their own characters inspired by the rabbids instead of being the rabbids themselves. That's also why those later designs looked so much different from the rabbids. They were loosely inspired by them but weren't really rabbids anymore. If my memory serves me right the main reason the actual "Killer Freaks" version of the game was cancelled is because players had to constantly look down to shoot the freaks which proved to not be very fun. That concept was so much interesting than what it eventually became so it's surprising that they didn't just simply scale the freaks to be bigger. They weren't meant to be rabbids anymore so there probably wouldn't had been an issue with that.
ZombiU was still a great game. But, it's quite tragic that they cancelled it for that reason rather than trying to adapt it while maintaining everything else. Either way, I'm happy with what we got. What I'm not so happy with are the balancing changes they made to it for the multi-platform ports through Zombi. A tense horror experience where resources matter, turned into a mindless slog for the ports. Big shame.
The art is so mystical and so beautiful and the animations are so cartoony and smooth and unique and original. I will love these Rayman games for as long as i live.
I don't think they are underrated, people speak highly of them and they are one of the most famous Rayman games In fact, both games have been ported to various platforms.
I've always had the theory that Rayman's whole universe is someone's dream. That's why continuity is not a thing in this series, no dream is the exact same twice. I support my theory on Polokus/Bubble Dreamer being a meta-physical representation of the Dreamer himself, that's why everything goes south when he's disturbed, and that's why he needs awakened in Rayman 2 to fix everything.
It's not really a theory, I seem to remember being official that the Glade of Dreams is constantly changing and evolving based on the dreams of Polokus and that's why it's so different from games to games (which is really just a justification as to why it's not consistent from games to games).
Well that theory goes away when you realize that THE WORLD IS REAL, in the lore it is explained that the Lums created Polokus and Polokus was so powerful that he could created dreams and nightmare and Rayman was invocated by the faries because the nightmare where too power to be stopped by Polokus himself. And also there's games that do have connections with the previous although the majority is undirect but they're still linked regardless
Ex-Ubisoft Casablanca here, Senior Game Tester, I remember enjoying testing "Legends", specially the Wii U port, the game was smooth and the touchscreen felt great, I remember also the PS Vita version, I tested it using a Vita Debug Kit that had HDMI built in so I could capture video! "Legends" had some hardcore levels I remember them very well! We also had a lot of scrapped levels done by my colleagues in Level Design department, some were great but long, some were insanely hard, Montpellier studio had to decide what to keep. UbiArt Framework is amazing, I remember using it to test some Alpha and Beta levels and to take screenshots too , It was intuitive, ergonomic and beautiful, had its limitations but a very powerful 2D tool, I don't know why Ubisoft didn't use it in more games, the only other game I worked on using UbiArt was "Child of Light", PS Vita port, a fantastic RPG that was a surprise for me! Ubisoft is not know for RPGs!
The fact that they got Rayman Origins to run on Wii and 3DS were impressive since both are not HD systems. I heard there was going to be a PS2 port as well but UbiSoft cancelled it as Sony doesn't distribute PS2 DVD rom disc anymore by that time.
It's especially interesting, because the 3DS version because to be one hundred percent honest, the 3DS version sucks. The sound quality is absolutely terrible, and you can count the pixels on 90% of the stuff. And I played on real hardware, too!
@@Yackass That's a foootball game, and for some reason those seem to cling on a platform years after it's gone obsolete, often ending up being the final games released for it.
Rayman on Saturn was the first time I remember "noticing" the graphics and visual design of a game.. absolutely *loved* it - and it informed my own art style until I was about 14 😂 Such nostalgia.. very members.. ❤
I loved the Land of the Livid Dead level in Origins, and the fact that Legends doesn't really have anything like it is one of the reasons I actually like Origins a little bit more.
It’s so dope to see all this Rayman content coming out. A lot of the Rayman community is promoting fan games, making videos appreciating him in general or his recent push probably because of his recent push, and on top of that he’s going to be part of the dlc of Mario game while getting a figure collection in his Youtooz collection
13:05-13:19 So Globox was born red but was mutated when attacked by a swarm of blue mosquitoes. So his children received his mutation/it carried over to his children. Seems to make sense to me
I rarely ever hear people declare they enjoy Origins over Legends, but as a long-time fan, I completely agree! Legends didn't have the same effect of immersion that Origins did for me. Although both games experiment with world themes, the levels felt much less fleshed-out in Legends and rather gimmick centric in my opinion. I shared similar thoughts as you on the matter. However, this isn't to say that Legends is a bad game, I believe both are incredible! Different tastes in platformers lead to different opinions I suppose (although I will add the 2 games are a lot more similar than different). Anyways, I am so happy to see people still playing either game today, I loved your review! I felt you really did your research and spoke out as a fan rather than just a reviewer. Origins is definitely one of my favorite platformers of all time!
I really wish Origins didn't scrap it's plot and have what little remained left vague/unexplained. Also speaking of inconsistency: I swear when this game was still fairly recent I heard Origins was suppose to take place between Rayman 1 & 2, then around 2016 I hear that Origins suddenly took place after Rayman 3, and now recently I heard this was a reboot this whole time??? Also I prefer Origins FAR more than Legends. You're at least not alone here in that regard.
I recall that as well. If the original trailer is any evidence, it seems Rayman was meant to meet Globox for the first time. So fitting between Rayman 1 and 2 would've made a lot of sense.
I hate that they removed the story, but also kept the “twist” cutscene in. So i was so confused when there was a dramatic reveal, without any build up. I thought I had missed something.
Oh, good to see a Origins enjoyer there, I also like the first a bit better for being more focused on pure platforming challenges, I'm not a big fan of the Muphy levels in the sequel , but the musical levels were a pretty fun addition.
The only thing I dislike about the games is the lack of story. Especially origin’s. Apparently there was a storyline written, but they basically removed most mention of it. Yet they kept the “twist” cutscene, so they’re acting like something is a huge deal, when it was never established to be a big deal. You can really see the story absence in that game
Fun Fact: The reason why everyone else got limbs in Origins is because Rayman was supposed to be the only one of his kind from now on, but that was thrown out of the window fast when they introduced many other Rays in Legends and Adventures. On a bright side, that could've been a perfect opportunity to have one of the classic characters, Tarayzan, be playable who was originally going to but they didn't.
@@Zippy_Zolton Well, Rayomz (the naked Ray)'s description does say he gives Rayman a bad name and that everyone mistakes Rayomz for him, basically implying the 2 are not the same person.
This video is perfect timing considering I just finished Legends yesterday! I do wish you went into more detail with Legends, but I understand that for the most part it is mostly the same as Origins. Very solid video, as always! I feel there's a slight disconnect between how general audiences and Rayman fans view Legends: Once upon a time I consider Legends the superior game for having more varied content and ideas, and I think that's how critics and players felt too. But being in the Rayman community, Legends is kind of a polarizing title: some fans felt that it was a worthy follow-up to Origins, while others feel it pales in comparison. Over time I much prefer Origins because I find it to be a more cohesive and consistent experience. For as barebones as Origin's story is, it did have a very solid progression: the levels progress nicely to one another, the worlds transition well to the next, there were phases and points of interests. Legends is just nowhere near as cohesive: the levels feel more compartmentalize, the Painting Gallery distracts more than it does tie things together, there's virtually no story progression as each world is more formulaic, and pacing is often wonky due to how different the scope and purpose of the levels are. I still think Legends is a darn good game, but Origins just comes together so much better to me in replays. Legends is less a silly adventure across the world like Origins, and more a checklist of fun activities.
Ayoo, we finally have videos on the Ubiart games, this is exciting! As for my favorite between the 2, I will have to say Legends thanks to it improving the pace of the original game, (mostly) improved bosses, more content, the fun online challenges, and the better completionist system. Honestly though I think you should have gone on about your opinions on Legends because it would have been really interesting to see why you prefer Origins (Especially considering the opinion is very unpopular). But still this video was awesome overall
Quality video as always! 🔥 Those games are probably among some of the best platformers of all time. I think you playing the PS Vita version was the best option too. I know the bonuses may seem like nothing, but it’s fun backstory and stuff. Some assets were also updated too, probably due to being released slightly later than the other versions. Anyways keep producing quality content!
Origins always felt like more of a cohesive package, it felt like an adventure. Legends felt like a series of levels themed together and none of them made me want to try to speed run levels as much as origins did.
I got my Xbox 360 in Christmas of 2011, and Rayman Origins was my first game for the system. Ever since, Rayman has become one of my favorite video game characters, and I consider Rayman Origins to be the game that got me into video games. As for which game I prefer, that's tough to say. It's been a while since I played origins. As for Legends, I do think it's a really good game, but some of the level gimmicks do get a little tiring on replays, and I almost never replay the Murphy levels. I would love to see a new UbiArt Rayman platformer some day, and I don't mean a mobile game.
Honestly I love them both. I got the Platinum on Origins and the only reason I didn't get it on Legends is because of the multiplayer related trophies. Origins probably wins by a fraction though. Although I love the music levels in Legends and the variety of different characters you can play as in comparison to Origins
The one thing I don't like about both games is a common problem with many. Because the games are designed around running, you are always holding down the run buttons. I have a question. If you hold the run button most of the time, why not make it so that always run by default and make it a walk button?
Found it: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-WgPIR89oYdg.html Boy, I sure hope RU-vid won't automatically delete a comment with a link to a RU-vid video in it.
16:30 To answer your question: I played both and without a doubt I can affirme that Origins is my favorite. It’s has this specific vibe that I don’t get with Legends. The fact that Legends doesn’t even have a story or a world map and that they got rid of the Coffrapattes (the red boxes with the crystals) and of Moquitos truly were things I didn’t like about Legends. Finally: The 3D of Legends, as nice as it is, doesn’t stuck as much as the magnificent 2D art we got in Origins! I’m also biased towards Origins since I grew up playing it with my childhood friend growing up.
Origins and Legends are better 2D multiplayer games compared to the New Mario games. Those games are full of chaos and these games embrace it and let you to go bananas in the levels. P.S. Legends on PC is getting fan-DLC.
I honestly like Origins a tad bit more than Legends mainly because it feels like the story's still there. Meanwhile in Legends it feels... more non-existent to me XP
Funny thing is, Rayman Origins was the only Rayman game to be released twice on the 3DS. It had a physical release on its own in 2012 (one year after its actual release on consoles), and then 2 years later in 2014, it was then re-released in a video game collection called Rayman and Rabbids: Family Pack.
Rayman Origins will forever be my favorite game among the two. It had a better art style, soundtrack and level design. The gameplay in general is so fun too! Just running around playing with the momentum and trying to go as fast as possible will never stop feeling good to pull off. And, it's just a me thing, but I always got a different vibe when I played Origins that did not carry on to Legends. I also have great memories of playing it with my siblings back then! Great game, and definitely in my top 10 favorite games of all time.
13:15 easily explainable it's because Globox and Uglette's baby got the Globox's corrumpted genes instead of his normal ones, and also Uglette is pink not red
What people don't talk about enough is how the Xbox 360 version is truly next generation. Full 1080p, and this art style upscales very nicely to 4k. It's further proof that the 7th gen of consoles was the first "good enough for the next 100 years" console. There are still plenty of games released today that could run on an Xbox 360 and these games were a preview into what the 8th generation of gaming would bring. It's still amazing how lightweight these games are.
I personally didn't play Origins yet but liked Legends so much that i actually played it to 100%. Well almost, i lost my internet connection while playing the first level at the start of my save file. Which means the achievement for beating the first level didn't pop up. So now i've spent the time to do everything and got all achievements but am lacking the one for the first level lmao.
personally i think both games had their own charm, i love legends but i miss the treasure rush levels for example,then what we get for legends? musical levels who are really well done as well so basically i think both are master pieces and i wish the mobile games werent stuck there
Fantastic video! I strongly prefer Origins too - in my opinion, it has MUCH tighter level design and a more fun, less cluttered visual style to it. Plus the overall game feels more like a cohesive adventure, as opposed to Legends, which has always mostly felt like a string of disconnected levels. I'd actually really love to see a video dissecting Legends in comparison to Origins, and delving into why it... more or less just doesn't work as well. I have a feeling that, even though a lot of us thought it was flawless ten years ago, it's not going to end up aging nearly as well as Origins in the eyes of the community.
i'm still waiting for rayman myths. thankfully, the rayman community is making a rayman legends expansion pack mod with console versions of the stages from rayman adventures and mini, with full control and multiplayer.
I'm still in awe and confused why they developed the 3DS port of Rayman Origins. It was impressive, especially as the Demo was the largest thing I had on my 3DS for a while before Hshop. Though, I still hold some hate due to it burning out my R Button for 5 years.
My relation with Origins is the exact opposite of Raving Rabbids. When it was announced, I really didn't care. It looked like any other 2D platformers from the time and the episodic format just reminded me of the catastrophe that was Sonic 4. I hated that they were pretending it was a return to source for Rayman because it looked nothing like Rayman 1, gameplay and design-wise. When it was actually released, well... I absolutely loved it. The PC version hadn't been released yet, so I emulated the Wii version at like half speed because my computer was so bad and yet, I've played way too much, before actually buying the Wii version when I had the money. It's an incredibly fun game, especially with friends. Last year, I bought the 3DS version for fun and it's pretty horrible, it looks really blurry and it runs at 30 FPS, but it's still Rayman Origins. Legends, well... I still haven't played it. I'm one of the few idiots who bought a Wii U at launch, so I was really excited for it... until Ubisoft took the stupid decision to release it like 6 months later, in a period that had a lot of great games releasing and really close to the release of the PS4 / Xbox One. I've played the demo and it felt like more of Origins, I didn't like the artstyle as much and something just felt... off. I have the PS4, Switch and Vita version, I should play it, but I'm just not that interested, which is a shame since I'm sure I would have a good time. Oh yeah, about Lums, don't worry, even in French, it was always pronounced "Lums" and not "Looms" ingame, don't know where that come from, their name comes from "Lumière" (Light), which is pronounced with a U sound.
Imagine a 3rd mainline ubi art rayman game with rayman having his sparks of hope design, and rayman 4 taking place in the og universe with some elements of the origins series in it
rayman legends including a semi remake of origins too was also the coolest thing and ive rarely seen a game include ANOTHER game inside of it, definitely recommend rayman legends especially on switch since it has all the content ever released for it
I have a weird relationship with the Rayman games. I love the characters, the art, and even some of the music, but I'd be hard-pressed to say I like playing any of the games, and I wish that wasn't the case more than you'd imagine. Visually, Rayman 1 is my favourite for sure, quite an inspiration of mine even, but the only Rayman game I've ever gotten into the gameplay of (I'm slightly ashamed to admit) was the 'Rayman Run' mobile series, and yet trying both these games didn't give me the same sense of what I liked in those games.
imo origins is better on top of having a more consistent level design ( and good one at that) the art style feels overall more iconic and unique, I prefer it's roughness over legends and although I do enjoy aspects of legends more, like the skins, the musical levels, or the some of the bosses origins is still my favorite (the worlds in legends aren't that memorable either)
Got Legends on the WiiU. And BOY does it make the best use of the pad ever. It's phenomenal. And hilarious. And the music is SOOO catchy and vibrant. It's crazy good
Rayman Origins was a legendary game for my Ps3, so was also LittleBigPlanet. These to games was so fun when i was a kid. but later, the disc got some scratches. So everytime i tried to load a level, i got softlocked. So we sold our PS3 and bought a nintendo switch. Just to find out that mom bought us Rayman Legends that would just include 20+ RAYMAN ORIGINs level. That made so happy.
I kinda view Origins as the base game and Legends as "dlc". Legends doesn't really have any structure to it as each world is self contained and the game doesn't really have story or ending. It's just really fun levels. I think as a whole Origins is better as it has a story and a sense of adventure and progress as your playing through the game. Legends on the other hand is just really fun levels and tries to be more experimental.
ive replayed rayman origins and legends so much that i can only remember the times when i thought levels were hard. i can just turn off my brain and do it without really thinking
Great video! I'd played Rayman Legends when it was free on PS+ and really enjoyed it. I've been wanting to play Origins, but unfortunately the PC port is plagued by technical issues, so doesn't look like I'll ever get around to playing it.
Back when legends came out most of players didnt consider try Origins since a bunch of levels were in the sequel not knowing they affected the gameplay But over time I'm seeing more and more people are recognizing Origins as a more enjoyable game I played both and I prefer origins the better, but I recognize that those tittles have different gameplay focuses
I’ve played them both, and I got em both for the Vita as well. However I started with Legends (I wanted Origins but only got Legends instead for a reason I forgot) and I’m far more used to how that game plays. So it’s a bit awkward playing the sequel first and going to Origins next, especially with you need to unlock most of the moves in that one. I’ve yet to beat Origins but I have completed Legends. Like did every level, all bonus music stages, Origins levels, every Teensie, the Lums required for costumes and etc, I platinumed the game and honestly, I’m quite proud of myself given to how hard the challenges/levels are and how grindy it is to get a million Lums. Winning a diamond cup for a daily or weekly challenge was absolutely annoying, especially with the fact not a lot of people were playing it now, thank god for a glitch in a challenge made it more possible. I plan on finishing Origins too. I managed to get it this year and once I have the time I’ll get that done all the way too.
Rayman legends and Origins are still are still one of my favorite games ever. If i had to pick which one is better, I'd have to go with Origins, mainly because of nostalgia and (imo) better artstyle, but I definitely see why people think legends is better.
Honestly, I preferred Rayman Origins. I love Legends, but Origins is definitely the more challenging and interesting of the two. Also, Rayman Legends feels like it has very little content The main adventure is pretty short, only being about 2-3 hours long as opposed to Origins being about 5-6 hours. To be fair, the chase levels were pretty fun and the musical levels are absolutely genius, but 90% of the levels are either painfully easy or really slow with the Murphy levels. Also, as for there being thousands of Lums in Rayman Origins/Legends (and Rayman Raving Rabbids DS), my headcanon is that the Lums from Rayman 2 aren't the same type as the ones in the UbiArt. In Rayman Origins, they're referred to as just Lums despite specifically being called Yellow Lums in Rayman 2.
As a long time Rayman fan, playing from ps1 all the way up to now, I think Rayman Origins is a better game thematically and in context to Rayman's legacy as a character. The overall excitement I felt when I saw that initial trailer for origins knowing the series was going back to its roots and "rebooting" is something i wont forget. Rayman was back. The art direction, aesthetic, and energy felt much more in tune to Rayman 1, which at the time of Origins release was somewhat overshadowed by its 3D sequals. outside of the occasional "Rayman 1 is hard!" post or video. Legends felt like it was more or less an expansion on Rayman origins, and while technically its the superior game. I think it lost touch some with the overall world Rayman has had attached to him. It seemed disjointed thematically while being very polished gameplay wise. Origins felt like a return to form, while legends felt like a collection of expansion worlds. This all being said, At the time I felt a return to 2D was what Rayman needed. Now I feel that a polished 3D Rayman is waaay overdue. I thought for sure that Origins would serve as a starting point for a new series of Rayman games, and that was never the case.
I was (and am) always more of a Legends guy (though I think that The Great Escape was still better), simply because it was the Rayman game I grew up playing, I liked the more loose art style, level design, and the female characters in Legends had slightly less perverted designs. Thank you for reviewing the game(s) in such a neutral way, without hating on one or the other.
I think if I had to chose one of the two games.... It's really hard ^^'. Progression wise, I prefer Origins, a world map is way more immersive than the gallery hub world they did and, while there are nearly no stories, I do like there were some set pieces to make the whole thing cohesive like, how we save the nymphs to met back with them atop the mountain and the magician's reveal. Gameplay wise it's very similar but Legends has too much gimmiks, especially the touch controls ones. I'm really not found of the murphy levels as Globox's IA can be really unresponsive. ... However, Legends also feels like a more complet packages as most of it's new levels are really good, there are way more stuff to do AND you can unlock a lot of Origins's levels to playthrough. Also, the upgrade on the Ubi Art is impressive so it's like "Why pick Origins when you can have the same content and even more with Legends?"
I like to think of every Rayman game being a completely new and separate adventure with the exception of Origins and Legends akin to how the Legend of Zelda works where you play as Link every time but it’s a different Link every time with some exceptions here and there
I'd be interested in hearing your thoughts on Rayman Legends at some point! Personally I've always felt Origins is the better game, I like the level theming, music, and flow a lot more than Legends. Legends is still fantastic but I felt some of the gimmick stuff was a little long in the tooth and the game just didn't hit me in the same way. I will say that the music levels in Legends are so so fun and are always a hoot! Interesting you mostly only played these games co-op, I've mostly played them single player aside from the early parts of Legends on the Wii U version since it had the gamepad stuff. Either way, great video as always!
I'm so sad they let the franchise die slowly. These are probably THE best 2D platformers I ever played. They could have made so much out of it. I still remember the time when Rayman Legends was new and I played it for the first time. I wish I could experience that again.
I remember playing Rayman Legends at a Nintendo event back when it was supposed to be a Wii U exclusive. I still can't believe that game was gonna be locked to the Wii U, man. o_O
Dude, Rayman Origins was one of my most played PS3 games back in 2011, I bought it day one and had an absolute blast with it, one of my favourite 2D platformers to this day, the soundtrack slaps, the level design is pretty damn good too and the UbiArt engine makes the game look gorgeous for a Rayman title. I haven't played Legends as much tho so I'm still a bit mixed on a few things, but both games are great, just wish Ubisoft would finally revive the limbless hero for a brand new game or maybe a remake of Rayman 2 etc.
I think part of your frustration with these games (in general, but especially Legends) is playing on a small screen. Playing Legends on a big TV really makes everything stand out more, and frankly the touch screen stuff might as well just be a one button switch...which is exactly what the other consoles do; assign a single button that flips all of the touch mechanics between 2 extreme states, since there's no reason to ever be precise with it. Most people prefer Legends for the sheer amount of content. 99% of Origins is unlockable in Legends, which is wild. I also personally prefer the momentum in Legends more; it's a touch more nuanced and feels less like a max speed switch has been flipped.
I beat the land of the livid dead in Rayman origins 1. But I forgot there was something on the stove and nearly burned the house down. It was the greatest emotional whiplash I've ever experienced. Never played legends for some reason.
I adored both of these games and still do, for entirely different reasons. They are both, to me, like two different dreams. The only thing I have to say specifically about Legends really is that I appreciated so much the incorporation of the rhythm/playable songs at the end of the worlds, and the awesome Easter egg reference to Splinter Cell. 💕 These games are virtually perfect to me, and I long every day for a third one, truly.
Origins is my favorite platformer of all time and Legends is no slouch itself, but i want to take this opportunity to throw some love to Jungle Run/Fiesta Run/Mini. Would they be better with full control over Rayman? Obviously. Even so, they’re still all right in line with the quality Origins and Legends established imo.
There is one problem with legends vita version. Murphy.... They made them to be touch control our little flying guy and made half of the game a fricking sidescroller. Its really frustrating. And no. You cant turn them off. Only touch and sidescrolling. This is pain
How you feel about Rayman Origins and Legends, thinking the first to be better while the majority of the gaming landscape thinks otherwise is EXACTLY how I feel about Donkey Kong Country Returns and Tropical Freeze.
Thank you for covering these. Even though I bought them each of them new, I still have to look forward to checking them off my backlog someday. You mention the parallax of Rayman Origins. This was used to great effect for 3D on the 3DS. For multiplatform releases, I sometimes had a hard time choosing from the better resolution and colors of the Vita, or the 3D of the 3DS. I'm a big fan of the mobile games, well the first two. I 100%ed Jungle Run, I'm very nearly done with Fiesta Run after all of these years, and I'll be starting Adventures in earnest right after. No Rayman Mini for me as I don't have any Apple products, so no Apple Arcade.
The heck? Legends is on the Vita? I didn't know that. Does make sense since it does provide for the missing touchscreen mechanics in the other platforms (except Wii U of course).
My first time playing legends and origins was on the Wii U and it was pure Bliss. There were a ton of hard levels but the movement mechanics are so good it just kept me going
