Reacting to Brett Cooper's Thoughts on P0rn 

Why do you as a Catholic use a website founded by a homosexual man depriving a child of a mother and leading it to sin, and an Israeli national who either doesn’t believe Jesus existed or that Jesus is in hell? (Dave Rubin and Assaf Lev)

can we please have the studies you referd to. i would love to read them fully myself

The interesting psychology is the less sex you have the first month I mean no sex just talk and romantic gestures the more you are attracted to the person because you don't see him just like an object you see him as a human being with wisdom, emotions, feelings, humor, nice hobbies It is an interesting observation that if you wait to have sex, your point of view about the guy is much richer, your love and attraction to him starts to be richer and if you have the first sex after 2 or 3 months, it can be just plus because the richer the point of view about him his lifestyle, his values, his hobbies, music, science, knowledge the richer experience can be sexually and romantically....after a few months of dating. I am just guessing. I am not an expert. But experts say the same way you treat your sex life, the same way you treat other areas of your life. It's like you go to Paris, you don't want to see all the attractions and the Eiffel Tower on the first day. You just want to get some coffee in a nice restaurant and introduce yourself to the city. After a few days, you visit the attractions to absorb its beauty and interesting stuff about the city. We live in a world of easily selling the product, just by clicking on the button as television likes to promote this mindset So it's obvious that this mindset is adopted also in the romantic areas, but it doesn't work that way. People should be more natural. so you are investing your attention into knowing him, even knowing his flaws that are meaningless because you are interested in him as human, it's called imperfect perfection. You see a tree that has an imperfect shape, or size but the tree is imperfectly perfect because of its natural beauty. Nature is imperfect, and trees are imperfect, therefore they are imperfectly perfect in their beauty. Therefore humans also should not try to look perfect but natural.

Porn Industry is evil but trying to swallow a whole pineapple is not going to happen. You need to study how the Socialist and Marxist take over the western culture because your current position is exactly how the west lost to Socialism and Marxism.

Shapiro takes a hard stand against porn. He wrote a whole book about it.

So does Candace Owens

@@abigailb7382 - Her husband is Catholic and she’s already said that it is the man’s responsibility to lead his family in faith. She has some questions, but based on those sorts of comments by her I think that she will become Catholic in a year or two. I also would not be at all surprised if Brett becomes Catholic. When Matt visited the Daily Wire several of them attended TLM (Traditional Latin Mass) with several of them - I’m assuming Matt Fradd, Michael, Matt W. and perhaps Candace and her husband. It would be wonderful if both DW women converted - for their sakes as well as so many others.

Brett Cooper is VERY young. When I was her age, I had similar ideas about consenting adults and was shy about telling people they were wrong in their personal sex lives. Like most young people, I was more libertarian, and had a naive point of view about "adult" behaviors. Honestly, she's much more reasonable than most people her age, and as she gains wisdom, she will probably come to understand why there is no such thing as healthy and happy fornicators.

They also aren’t part of Brett Cooper’s generation. Believe me as someone who is part of that generation, it’s shocking enough to find someone with Brett’s views expressed in this video. Our generation has been exposed to this evil since we were essentially children. We’ve been told it’s normal and healthy by almost every source of mainstream media we’ve been force fed, by the teachers in our schools, and by our peers. Parents often don’t get just how bad things are because they were never exposed to free internet porn, where you can see literally whatever you want at any second. So be encouraging of the young adults today who are waking up to the evil that is porn. Be supportive of them, even if they don’t perfectly understand the full extent of how evil it is. Offer a prayer to St. Augustine that this generation can break free of the sexual deviancy that’s been thrust upon it.

More importantly, production of porn is illegal in South Korea. It's really a no-brainer for a state that cares about its people to protect young women from this sort of predation. The porn firewall is a good thing. It's really easy to get around, but that extra barrier is nice. It stops kids from wandering into the stuff. I used to live in SK, and at the time I had no moral qualms about porn. I don't think the extra step of opening a VPN ever discouraged me from porn use. But it can't hurt.

In Mexico prostitution is supposedly illegal, but there are many businesses that front as spas or stylists but are actually brothels. But, you know, the "humane" type, the "fancy" types, the "nice massages with happy endings". Everybody knows, too. It's wild.

@@blankmantm2501 that is true of some areas of South Korea and here in California where I live too. Seems like the authorities aren’t doing their due diligence sometimes. There’s a lot of human trafficking happening in places like that.

Yet, Koreans problems with marriage and fidelity didn't improve.

I remember when we landed in South Korea, we were instantly told of using a VPN and it saved our lives 😂

Dooo iiit! Dooo it nooow!!!

Yuhhhhh

Amen brother.

Omg, poor Thursday! 🤦‍♀️🤣🤣 No pressure! Right, boys? 😂👍

No no no please stahp with the cringe 😬 Or continue 🤷

I am lutheran, but as Matt says: "When theres a maniac at the door, feuding brothers become friends"

​@@JezielProdigalSon Calvin Robinson said this.

@@fedyno4reviews Right, sorry. Thanks for correcting me.

​@@fedyno4reviewsno, it was Peter Kreeft who said it first.

@@stevenyoung3752 Well whoever said it, is a smart dude.

35:34 for the timestamp :)

@@fallingcrane1986 I figured someone would take care of that for me 😉 Thanks for that!

Be careful not to tell yourself that when you open an incognito window

35:35 - A hypocrite defined

Well, we live in an age when most think it is our desire that makes something good, not the thing itself. So they utter pithy little platitudes like, “different strokes for different folks” and “what’s good for you may not be good for me.” They’ve utterly lost any cogent notion of morality, so they resort to a complete subjectivism. But no one really believes that deep down. Everyone draws the line somewhere.

Because too many people think of human beings as perfectly rational beings, always looking out for their best interests, which is just incorrect

And yet you haven't articulated an actual argument for why porn is wrong. I don't know what would compel me to visit a porn shoot, but I wouldn't feel like "an absolute sleeze" unless I were spying. But of course there would be no reason to do that.

Porn being wrong should be self evident. But here we are. Living in an age where we need to present “actual arguments”, and martial together studies by people with degrees against things that everybody knew was wrong for thousands of years purely by common sense.

Libertarian talking points took over the right, and the left was just content with it, while knowing they'd never accept in economically.

Shouldn't you reexamine your position if you have no good reason to hold it?

@@jamesk3612 yes, but not knowing how to defend your position on the spot is not the same as not having a good reason to hold onto it at all.

@@joshuadunham3018 if you can't define how you came to hold your positions or beliefs then you should reexamine them. What you're talking about is post hoc reasoning. It's working backwards from your conclusion.

​@@jamesk3612 You seem to be arguing against some other idea besides the one the original commenter espoused, and which I thought you understood. No one said anything about not being able to define how they came to hold their positions or beliefs in the first place. This discussion is about someone presenting a new argument you haven't thought of. I'm sure if I went back in time to a hundred years ago, I could probably make some interesting, even convincing, arguments for a flat earth to someone without a college education from the 1920s. They could say, "Well, I don't know how to defend my position based on the knowledge I have now, so I guess I'd better abandon what I believe" and just change their entire view of the world based on what I said. Or, they could they take the time to do research beyond what they were taught in middle school and get back to me. The latter is what I assume Matt (and the commenter) were recommending.

@@joshuadunham3018 do you have discord? I'd be down to have a conversation about it. My position is that, yes, you should abandon your beliefs if you can't defend them. The null position is a lack of belief in something, if you are making a positive claim then you should have reasons (i.e. be able to defend) why you believe that thing.

These conservatives aren’t even worshiping the founding fathers, they’re worshiping warped, half-formed pictures of them. If you resurrected any of them and said, for instance, that you permitted pornography and banned prayer in schools based off the first amendment, they would be shocked and appalled, might even challenge you to a duel. None of them indicated they saw any conflict between the first amendment and blasphemy laws, which predated the revolution and continued to be passed over a century after the revolution. John Adams said, “Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious People. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other.” James Madison wrote that our Constitution requires “sufficient virtue among men for self-government,” otherwise, “nothing less than the chains of despotism can restrain them from destroying and devouring one another.” Most conservatives can’t handle that, can’t accept that according to the founders themselves, this libertarian streak is incompatible with the structure of our country.

​@@meglukes So glad to see somebody else who actually knows and understands what our founders truly said and meant. I point this out all the time.

@Megan okay, I see what you're saying, and I agree. The conservatism a lot of conservatives are subscribed to isn't even to the standards of the founding fathers they claim to follow. I can definitely see that in how we claim to be conserving freedom but have caved to certain moral and spiritual things because "it'sa free country" due to the lost logic that society should be held to a moral standard that says no to people doing whatever they want. You're right - people really don't understand what kind of country the founding fathers envisioned and how that deviates from this radical "freedom" that even conservatives push which may have dug us into the moral hole we are in today. Excuse my symbolism of the worship of the founding fathers, then. They're worshipping a false freedom that is blinding them from the further destruction they are causing by not barring societal behavior that is immoral.

Through the neo liberal framework rather then a Christian Framework*

Secular conservativism was never going to work, because without its objective moral base it turns into a "do whatever ya wanna do" libertarian attitude. But it can also lead to worship of the state or certain traditions. Where I live is said to be a very conservative country, though for many people conservativism means the worship of hazy, unscientific pagan alleged-traditions of our nation mixed in with some elements of Catholicism. I don't believe any type of -ism is good in itself if it lacks the fundamental teachings of the Bible.

Could you please point out to which videos helped you with that. Many people I know, me included, still struggle with that particular temptation.

@@DanteColburnI believe Matt has a free course of videos that are created to help you get free. Can’t remember what they are called but Google that and I bet it’ll come up!!

Theology of the body was my sex education (my parents took me out of sex ed classes at high school). It is such a rich and beautiful treasure

​@Silly Cupcake! 🧁 What are you on about?

​@@SillyCupcake I don't know what you think about our communities, but women knowing about sex has always been important for Catholic households because you can't avoid what you don't know.

Catholic priests can't resist cigars, you think any of them can resist sex?

@@SillyCupcake It may be true that some Catholics avoid talking about this, and that's part of the work to come; for girls and young women to learn about the beauty and goodness of their sexuality, and the plan God has for all of us

I'll be praying for you David! I know how easy it is to feel hopeless and defeated when struggling to get out of the habit of committing certain sins. I've been there dude, still am, and it's hard. Know that you aren't alone and you are and always will be God's beloved child. God bless you

It may be because those are natural desires and the unnatural repression of every desire may not be healthy

@@bsauce__23bandzz88 I did and it didn’t help, it only made it worse

Southern baptist here😅 I’ll pray for you.. you shouldn’t have to go to a priest to be forgiven bud.. come to a southern church sometime 😅

Prayers for you David. You CAN stop. You have to choose it. Don’t make yourself a helpless victim.

I think most conservatives recognize healthy morality is the foundation of a strong society.

Limited government isn't a bad idea in itself but it requires strong Christian societies. But these days the term is just synonymous with libertarian, ultra-legalistic approach to morality where consent, personal freedom and property rights are the only sacred things (not to say that these concepts are wrong, of course!). Libertarians don't take into account things that cannot be easily measured like social cohesion or the need to preserve history of your people, not to mention metaphysical things like faith (which is the most important for Christians). Their god is individualism.

but muh taxes

It's because people don't know what "limited government" means. It doesn't mean small or weak. It means within the natural limits which includes the execution of moral justice.

​@@2righthands816 the idea behind limited government is that the people can govern themselves. Self-government is only possible with strong moral character, on both the personal and societal scale.

Definitely saying a prayer for you! Keep your focus on God. We naturally gravitate toward what we think about, so even if your focus is "Porn is bad, I should avoid porn", you're still giving a lot of your mental time and effort to the negative thing. If you instead focus on how great Jesus is and on seeking to have the mind of Christ and think about the things He does, I think you'll find it much easier to avoid. Also, we tend to act in alignment with what we think we are. If you think being an addict is a deep part of your identity, you will probably continue to act like an addict even though you don't want to be addicted. On the other hand, if you are in Christ and really are a new creation, focus on this new identity in Christ and ask God to help you believe you are what He has already made you to be: one of HIs holy people. If you are a new creation in Christ, your core identity is His own righteousness, not the sins that you have struggled with. There is still temptation sometimes-after all, even Jesus did not get a pass on temptation-but there is power to overcome that temptation instead of being enslaved to it.

Said a prayer for you. I know it is hard to beat this addiction. God is able! 🙌🏼Thanks for your honesty ♥️

@@joshuadunham3018 Thank you! I really appreciate the advice, I take that to heart ❤️

@@latenightladybug4505 Thank you so much! Much love, God is good, all the time ❤️

Prayers for you! Don’t fight it alone. God is with you 🙏

Funny enough the guy who said he stopped watching it and it improved his life.. agreed to everything she said except for the part that this made it bad. I'm not perfect by any means but if stopping something improved my life, I wouldn't think oh this thing is still good.

But there is trafficking. And it's rediculous the mental gymnastics that some people are willing to jump through to justify an industry where SOME participants are doing it of their own "free will" when many others are trafficked, groomed, coerced, etc. Imagine arguing that cigarettes are healthy and smoking should be encouraged just because not everyone who smokes gets lung cancer.

@@harrygarris6921 Porn stars are paid, adult professionals with their own websites and social media accounts. It isn't difficult to find them making appearances in mainstream media, or in interviews. Joanna Angel even stated in one interview that she receives so many applications she doesn't even have time to review them all. The horrifying trafficking incident involving the defunct "girls do porn" website is far from representative.

@@Thagomizer you’re talking about a relatively very small sample of the top 100-200 most successful people in an industry where there are tens of thousands of women. I don’t think I’m the one misrepresenting the reality of the industry here.

Wives must have more sex. THAT will solve a lot of problems. Christian Women in general must stop demanding a whole life of marriage in exchange for sex.

Good point.

Depends on the person. Would I be happy if this person was a maladjusted wreck with addictions, attachments, and other issues? No, and I would be concerned for him or her. Would I be happy if they were an ambitious, talented, studied, and tough-minded person who knew exactly what they were doing and loved it? "Happy" is probably too strong a word, but I would appreciate the fact that they found their niche and trust their judgement. Watching their porn would be weird, though. And "S/he's someone's son/daughter!" is a no sequitur. Do you need to be reminded of this when you go on a date, or are intimate with your spouse? They're an adult, just like you, and should be respected as such.

Yup. Libertarianism is no better than leftism imo

@@kamarwashington Eh, they're slightly preferable. Libertarians are the cowards who run away while the enemy forces invade. At least they aren't the invaders, but they definitely aren't helping

libertarianism? More like libertinism.

Yes! People should do what I want them to 🙌

@@nonpolar786 You want people to do what you want them to as well. That’s not inherently wrong

Oh I'm glad you found it clear. Can you summarize why porn is evil for me? I had a hard time following Matt's arguments

@@jamesk3612 Spoiler: there were none

​@@nonpolar786Oh there were, but okay.

What’s so sad is stuff like this happens to a lot of women even in romantic relationships, it’s not exclusive to pornography, just a patriarchal society

​@@nonpolar786What dies patriarchy have to do with anything? Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob have nothing to do with the owners of P0rn Hub.

Yes, this is exactly it 🙌 I've never heard the term "consent based morality", but it's on point. The lowest form of fake morality

@@SillyCupcake1. you say the world isn't black and white, yet argue that incest should be illegal (I obviously agree) which is a categorical (black and white statement) your logic isn't consistent here. 2. Not everyone who disagrees with you is projecting. Not everyone is a sexual degenerate. I simply used a classical example that is commonly used to dispute the flaws in consent based morality. One can use murder as an example without literally being a murderer. Not everything is a projection all the time, humans are able to use their rational facilities to make arguments.

Okay I will play devil's advocate on this, the separation of church and state ensures that the government ensures the social common good of the people and the church ensures the spiritual common good of the people, so if two twin brothers or twin sisters have sexual relations with each other which they both know is morally bad but they decided to do it anyway I would think they would do it in secret and not tell anybody which they have every right to do as two consenting adults that's why there is a separation of church and state to begin with so the church won't interfere with people's basic freedom's that go against religious legality as long as these freedoms do not interfere with the basic common good of the people that's why people have the right to talk things over with their respective religious director because the state ensures one of the basic human freedoms of the right to practice their religion of choice now a part of that freedom of religion means Traditional Catholics should have the right to voice their opinion against lgbtq and have the right not to participate and things that involve lgbtq which they have the constitutional right to do as long as it doesn't go any farther than that since both parties rights must be respected under the law of the government which ensures the social common good of the people so if traditional Catholics have a problem that goes beyond that they have the right to talk it out with their spiritual director. (I'm a traditional catholic myself but it's in my nature as a rebel to play devil's advocate time from time 😈)

@@odanobunaga7584 you should reconsider your belief in seperation of church and state. It really isn’t consistent with Christian (especially catholic) beliefs.

@@HUGHMANN7 I know it's not that's why I said I will play Devils abvocate, the separation of church and state is Freemasonic not Catholic, but only a Catholic King or Queen can lead a Catholic America but America is a White-Anglo-Saxon-Protestant nation to begin with when it broke away from the King of England what is more interesting is the first people to land on United States was Catholic Spanish from Spain the Catholic history of United States is there but America was going to go that route anyway because Free Masonic America needed to complete manifest destiny, the truth is America the government is not Protestant or Catholic but Free Masonic, and the early turn-of-the-century revolutions that happened in France United States and Venezuela were all Free Masonic, I think Denmark and Iceland still have church and state united under the Lutheran Church maybe more countries do to buy have to do more research, I'm a scholar but don't claim to have all the information to all the answers but it's a interesting conversation for sure.

⁠@@brodicox2031I got a notification when it uploaded and watched. RU-vid’s time stamps are off it seems. I’m not trying to make a snarky comment, just thinking about how to get across to people as I feel like that’s always the disconnect.

What makes you or Matt the judge of someone's personal dignity? Would you say the same about an actor who stars in bad B movies, a primadonna's housekeeper, a dumpster diver, a panhandler, or a toilet attendant? Why or why not?

@@Thagomizer Yeah I think you're asking a good question, which is what I was wondering about too. But I think it does objecively feel to everyone that porn is undignified. I.e., No one would easily admit they're happy that their daughter does porn, and I think that tells us something. It may have to do with what sex is for - for love with a spouse and potential reproduction. It's inherently for the couple, and not for more than that. And they'd be wrong to make it so. There's an old Norm McDonald joke: how do I know sex is dirty? Because we always close the blinds. Once sex ceases to become servant, it becomes a tyrant (GKC) - we easily see that in society. Cleaning toilets, acting in bad movies, is still dignified work (it's work done for the good of others). Pornography is done for the detriment of the performers and others (even if many mistakenly think it is a good)

​@@Thagomizer pornography is harmful and addictive. I have exactly as much respect for pornographers as I do for drug dealers. A toilet scrubber or garbage collector is infinitely more respectable, because they do not profit from other people's addictions.

And what about their family life if they had any... Would they advice for their children to watch it? Are they good role models? Is all everlasting vices till they rot. If that's the way they treat themselves how can we expect for them to show sacrifice, compassion and responsibility for anybody?

@Silly Cupcake! 🧁 and now I know what kind of person you are.

As in, are we dealing with a totalitarian, or not?

@Silly Cupcake! 🧁 Cringe. This is like saying fraud or murder shouldn't be illegal, because it's our duty not to sin. It's not good for society. It would be better if there was no demand for it, but because of our fallen nature, there always will be.

​@@Thagomizer Do we believe in exploiting or protecting human beings?

We just need the Wednesday now

Based

Literally hopped on one minute after it was released.

Priorities.

Also she is not religious as far as I know

i feel like a lot of her opinions are formed according to her audience's liking. Lot of men there are claiming to be conservative, but are big porn addicts so i think she kinda wants to appeal to them

Proof?

Exactly, I can see so much potential. She has often defended Chritians in the past, I feel she has knowledge on Christiananty, but is still a little unsure and maybe scared to share the faith.

more proof that cigarettes are what made America great in the mid 20th century

*With Aquinas

I see it as him trying to get more exposure. Talking about how bad porn is needed.

@@spyroluver0951 I don't have any problem with reaction videos, but I don't like it when people pay attention to these people. I try very hard to forget that they exist, so i don't appreciate it when I'm reminded that they do.

@@josephbrandenburg4373 - There there

​@@josephbrandenburg4373 who?

If she did, that wouldn’t make it okay would it? Many secular couples watch porn together

​@@lebeccthecomputer6158 Why wouldn't it be OK?

@@Thagomizer if you’re Catholic, or any Christian really, there are things that are sinful even with full consent of all affected parties. Based on other comments you left I get the impression that you’re coming here looking for opposition (I don’t mean that in a negative way, I do it too). So I should clarify and say that I’m not a Christian, nor do I care if you watch porn

I think a better way to reframe this is "rational consent." A person watching porn in the moment because they have a great physical impulse in conjunction with predatory advertising from the industry is not thinking rational when they choose to watch. Much like an alcoholic who in a straight mind knows alcohol is bad for him but is overcome by great urge in certain circumstances. The libertarians have this ridiculous idea that we should always do what people want in the moment, not what they would want in the long term.

​@@lebeccthecomputer6158Divorce imminent.

End all sin

Sin is like smoking; it takes a seemingly long time to see the fallout. It's a 1 minute I'm happily sinning my life away and then you wake up at 60 and your life is in ruins and you're wondering how it happened.

When did she say she wasn’t religious?

@Kelli Kocha I have heard her say it a couple of times. I don't remember which episodes or timestamps but she has mentioned it. But she also doesn't make a big deal of it l, as if she's hostile to religion. She's definitely not.

I get the idea that she is open to Christianity but still unsure and wary of it, maybe? I'm praying that God opens her eyes to the Truth 😊 He is able!!!

@@latenightladybug4505 Same!

She's basically like I was at a similar age in my early twenties. Not religious, but agnostic though interested in history, art, philosophy of religion. I had similar thoughts, arriving at them from secular or natural reasons. It's possible that she may become religious later, but it takes a faith experience to move someone that is consciously agnostic, no matter how sympathetic or interested they are in an academic way.

Yaaaass 🙌🙌

What if someone’s an atheist?

@@nonpolar786 I think "xyz" isn't meant to be God, but rather a principle, like "I don't believe in the idea humans can change genders". And if one believes that this idea is harming people, then they should try lovingly help others understand why

@@rosedevine440 The problem with a statement like “humans can’t switch genders” is that it’s verifiably false, even if you don’t want to recognize it , trans people have existed, currently exist, and will always exist. I perceived the original comment to be referring to something more opinionated like pornography is bad, which is not a verified claim, in which case there should be no reason to tell any other individual what to do with it

@@nonpolar786 I don't think it's verifiably false, gender is inextricably linked to sex. The term is used to refer to roles or characteristics of women and men, but even when a male has some characteristics commonly associated with females, they are still male. And as to your second point, the claim that pornography is bad for us is verified (I can send you some sources if you'd like). Also, many truths are not "verified" by modern society, so I tend not to use popular consensus as a marker. Instead we should rely on reason, science and intuition. Once the truth is found using these, it is our moral responsibility to uphold it.

You clearly didn't watch a single second of this video

​@@enchantedgoldrushcope Tradcon

@Russell Phelan Correct me if I am wrong but I think the Catholic Church condemned individualism.

Keep justifying your addictions and perversions. Coomer.

Guns don’t change a persons brain. Porn physically changes the brain

Adultery kills marriage, dies it not? Bad analogy There is no pure or good use of porn. Guns can be defended as having a good and right place in society.

At 31:00 he starts with natural law. Thst is what's been discarded. Underpinning natural law is God's law.

Well for me gender critical and some parts of radical feminist thought, namely critique of pornography, sex industry, objectification etc were helpful to me, and opened me up to the Christian thoughts on this.