Reaction Podcast: Trump Found Guilty | 538 Politics Podcast 

yep. Lame.

Absolutely

Whether he is responsible for the verdict is really not relevant. He is basically forced into a position where he has to support the verdict. Now the question is which narrative will win. Was this an unfair prosecution of a Presidential candidate for his political leaning or was it a fair prosecution where justice for a crime was dealt out?

It was a state prosecution. Biden and the DOJ have nothing to do with state prosecutions. Of course, facts don't matter to Trump supporters. Never have. Never will.

​@@flamefusion8963Biden is not 'forced' to support the verdict. But it behooves him to do so in order to support the long established concept of the rule of law.

Disney would just rather we dont have nice things because its costs too much money

Only 85% of the people living in the USA can speak English. So 15% of people literally cannot read the articles you are reading, listen to the podcasts you are listening to, and watch the late night comedians that you love listening to. English literacy is at an all time low and plenty of people are graduating high school without being able to read or write English. It is a combination of huge waves of immigration, record low assimilation, and the breakdown of the public school system into a glorified daycare.

Plenty of people just don’t follow or care about politics.

As many people have said - it would disqualify you from being a starbucks barista - but not running for President - but then again - the constitution said he was ineligible but the illegitimate supreme court judges that he appointed said no that is not what it means - don't pay attention to what it says - we will tell you what it says . so he should not be able to run any way

​@@pjpredhomme7699😂

Move to whatever banana republic fits your fascist wishes then.

@@pjpredhomme7699 Constitution said he was ineligible? No, it did not.

@@kevinwoolley7960 Found the insurrectionist

I think a lot of independents and moderates will not want to vote for a felon. Some Republicans have said in polling that they would not vote for Trump if he was convicted. If some of them follow through on that, it could make a difference in those swing states. I believe that most Democrats will "come home," so the disagreements over Gaza may be a little overblown in terms of voting.

The GOP has never suppressed my vote. You're a good regurgitator of propaganda aka 💩

@@juana7035 Why do red states hate mail-in ballots 🤔

​. Yeah they have. Texas has, so has Alabama

Sadly, the GOP has fallen in line with Trump. It is the Trump Party now. So they have made a decision that no matter what he does, they will support him. The worst thing that ever happened to the Republican Party was 2016, because he lucked out on that EC victory and ever since he has dragged the party down in elections. Remember the "red wave" we were going to see in 2022? Yeah, the reason that didn't happen was because the party followed Trump over the cliff on election denialism. And they haven't really backed down on that, although they are largely being cagier about that aspect. So, I don't think they are in a very strong position for 2024 despite the polling thus far. But they don't seem to care, at least not publicly.

How many average Americans paid half a million dollars in hush money to a high profile porn star and used funds from their presidential campaign to cover it up? Real Joe Sixpack move there.

For Trump to plea bargain, he’d have to admit wrongdoing. Trump is 100% wrongdoings, 0% contrition.

Sentencing depends on remorse and contrition. An average American shows remorse, doesn't call the court a clown show, doesn't violate multiple gag orders, etc. So even if that was the average sentence for sake of argument, it shouldn't be his. Abnormally abhorrent behavior, contempt, and no remorse implies much harsher than average sentencing.

Sure they will but the swing voters aren't in that camp

maybe but that's his hardcore base. Anyone who isn't gung-ho for Trump is going to have to make up their minds, and my guess is some will leave him.

Only votes count. You don’t get extra credit for casting your vote with more or less passion. :D

It will inspire his base, but his base is far too small to carry him to victory. He needs the more liberal republicans, he needs the swing voters to have any chance and this is gna hurt him with those voters. To think it wont is ignorant, hes a felon and that matters to enough people that it will certainly matter

The main question is how it will affect swing voters though, the base is gonna base

@@nyern Swingvoters? this is eating into the Dem base. You cant let violent criminals roam freely while going after something as stupid as this. The whole case was about invoices and if Trump influenced cohen to lie on his invoices to Trump.

Of course, they'll rally round him but if u think his base wins him d presidency without broadening his coalition, Mark my word,he'll lose again if he keeps wrecking havoc and chaos. Sooner or later people are gonna be reminded how chaotic his presidency was.

@@tonyubaka3810 It will be a tight fought election. If the polls are accurate, Trump is likely to win given that he is up substantially in most of the swing states. I'm not convinced the polls are accurate. But the negative sentiment toward both candidates is very intense. I don't have certainty about the outcome at all.

Well yesterday's Goal Post was 'No Way this isn't a Hung Jury' so anything's possible

Sentencing depends on largely contrition and remorse. So....

He's under a gag order till after sentencing.

Friendly reminder that he's convicted because he's guilty.

@@ryanmahon1 Whether he's guilty of this trivial misdemeanour or not, it changes nothing about the truth of my point. This will go places none of these people expect.

​@@goodlookinouthomie1757 34 felonies = trivial misdemeanor, got it 👍

@@nyern Redefined as a felony for this specific case, strangely. If Trump were anyone else in the world, or if he were not running for POTUS, this trial would never have happened.

@@goodlookinouthomie1757 I didn't realize they wrote fraud and campaign finance laws to attack Trump personally

You don't think they'll be thinking about the fact that he's now a felon?

@@billsherman1565do you think the average trump voter will change their mind over this? I really can’t imagine anybody who’s supported trump after everything he’s done suddenly changing their mind because of one more thing on the pile

@@WhiteKnuckleRide512 Dude the average Trump voter doesnt decide this election. The people who decided 2020 were the independent voters who turned out in a few states to vote against the incumbent president. This was also the highest turnout election in years. Turnout is inevitably come down, and if Trump couldnt win with massive turnout I dont think hes going to do better this time around.

I miss the video too, but just so you know; clicking the thumbs down button does the same thing as the thumbs up button algorithm wise. It counts as positive engagement for the video as RU-vid considers any interaction as a positive mark on the video, including leaving comments.

Well ya, considering the defense was allowed every opportunity to strike jurors. It was fair and frankly, donnie was treated with baby gloves

Republicans: Trump can do any crime because all juries are biased So much for the party of law and order 🤡

Sounds like you want American troops fighting and dying instead

12 jurors disagree

And I suppose you believe 12 jurors have never been biased? Consider the kangaroo trials in the Jim Crow South, where 12 white jurors would convict a black man to death for a misdemeanor. Are those trials justified simply because all 12 agreed? Just like 12 Democrats agreeing to convict a Republican.

At the start of voir dire, Judge Merchan allowed anyone who confessed to being unable to be fair to self recuse. Trump’s defense team was able to strike and select jurors too. Everything about the process was fair. Why are you even talking about different venues? The crimes took place in Manhattan.

@@futureglobal7258 Because they're triggered and looking for anything to justify the lies trump is telling

@@futureglobal7258 I never said the process wasn't fair. My only point is that a bias saturation of a jury pool and the bias of a judge has an impact. If the pool was only from people at a Trump, it wouldn't matter how many strikes/recusals you go through. Or if Clarence Thomas was the judge, it would have played out differently. Additionally, even if I thought he was innocent, the risk to my family would be too high in that area to say anything but guilty. I feel like this is a very reasonable assessment given the political climate, especially when it involves Trump.

@@jerensteffen are you suggesting that Judge Merchan wasn’t fair to Trump’s defense team?

@@jerensteffen the political climate had no significant effect on the behavior of the judge, prosecution and jurors; despite Republican hysterical efforts to undermine & delegitimize the trial. If the facts had been on Trump’s side, he would’ve argued the facts. If the law had been on Trump’s side, he would’ve argued the law. Because neither the law nor the facts were on his side, defendant Trump spent every day trying to gin up distrust & hatred. The right thing for him to do would’ve been to confess & plead guilty. Many millions of dollars ago. He knows he committed all of those crimes.

Who's responsible lol

@@billsherman1565Biden and Biden voters 👍

How does it feel to live in fantasy land 🤔

@@nyern Says the person who doesn’t have a job, and has to rely on the government for money?🤔😂

Trial of his peers, he lives in Manhattan lol

As any reasonable person would

​@@poochyenarulezreasonable people know that a bookkeeping entry for a legal fee is correct. There was no crime, it's a Communist show trial, another stain in the DNC plantation. Glad to see my community of Minorities standing behind Trump and running away from the DNC plantation. A great failure under Obama's 3rd term.

@@juana7035 Maga tears lol

Manhattan is not a RepubliKKKan jurisdiction. It’s not the Jim Crow south. They don’t convict based on hate.

I gotta ask, do you think Republican prosecutors wouldn't do similar if Biden could be shown to have broken the law? Also want to ask at what level this trial became insane, the crime that they say was broken by falsifying the records went to "intent to violate federal campaign finance limits, unlawfully influence the 2016 U.S. presidential election, and commit tax fraud", was it the specifics of these that you think made it a lesser offence that others wouldn't be brought up on, and again doo you think Biden would have violated similar laws? I'm an outsider to US and the whole polarisation and talking points over in the US is so strange and unknown for me

@@thomasguyler6839 We already have an example of this. Hurr not bringing up charges against Biden last year. There is a reason the FEC and the DOJ didn’t pursue this case. And I’m completely fine with the Florida and DC case. But in this case specifically the judge and prosecution used two novel legal theories to even make it happen. The first was figuring out how to get past the statue of limitations and the second was part of the first but interpreting the law that they didn’t need to fulfill the obligation to specify what federal crime was broken is crazy. They gave 3 theories to what federal crimes were broken. They needed to either only go with one, or charge all 3. It’s not right to pick and choose. As the judge said, he would accept 4-4-4 as a uniamous verdict

"I didn't vote for trumps policies in 2016 or 2020, but I'll vote for him in 2024 and change my political values because a criminal was convicted"

So you're against sending criminals to jail?

​@@poochyenarulezwhat crime? A bookkeeping entry for a legal fee? 😂

Good.