Reaction To German Satire ROASTS American Political Hypocrisy (Volker Pispers) 

Ähm... Dieter Hildebrandt?

@@melchiorvonsternberg844 if you disagree with Pispers being the best, you just lie to yourself

@@Gilgarth Kleiner... Dieter Hildebrandt, war einzigartig und ist der Gold- Standard, des deutschen politischen Kabarett. Leb damit!

​@@Gilgarth Dafür haben aber viele Programme von Pispers die Zeit nicht gut überstanden. Man muss ganz klar lügen, um zu behaupten, dass er überall recht gehabt hat. Hier hat er z.B. komplett den Überfall Russlands auf die Ukraine ignoriert und es als ukrainische Innenpolitik dargestellt. Inzwischen ist erwiesen, dass die meisten Kämpfer aus Russland kamen, es von Russland gesteuert war (Girkin). Selbst die Bombardierung des Donbas ist nicht so, wie es Russland erzählt. Es gibt Aufnahmen von Artillerie, die in beide Richtungen geschossen hat oder wie ein späterer Social-Media-Star "War-Gonzo" mit Granaten mitten in einer Stadt in verschiedene Richtungen Granaten geschossen hatte. Und noch vieles mehr. In anderen Programmen hat Pispers den Grünen Nutzlosigkeit und Scheinheiligkeit unterstellt. Dabei hat er völlig verpasst, dass unter Fischer/Schröder die Energiewende angeschoben wurde, Elektromobilität entwickelt wurde, der Atomausstieg beschlossen wurde und nicht mit in den Irak einmarschiert wurde. Er lag hier also auch komplett falsch. Es ist reine Ideologie, ihn als den Größten darzustellen. Die Größten treffen, Pispers hat sehr häufig auch daneben getroffen - hat eben nicht den Kern, also die innere Wahrheit, erfasst und komprimiert vorgebracht. Aber genau das macht gutes Kabarett aus. Pispers hat interessante Ansichten gehabt, aber er ist ganz sicher nicht einer der Besten. Und um deinen Text nochmal aufzugreifen: Wenn du jetzt noch Pispers bei allem zustimmst, dann bist du entweder - blinder Ideologe - uninformiert - oder du lügst dich selbst an Sorry, aber du hast es genauso formuliert.

@whoismertsalih This is discussing on RU-vid. My long text is voted down - not visible in normal view. Populism like "if you disagree with Pispers being the best, you just lie to yourself" is visible, but discussion on facts diappears. The question is whether it were users or bots who voted it down. That's discussion culture on RU-vid. After taking effect of the EU's upload filters, RU-vid is the only platform where you can upload videos properly. And this platform, with its algorithms, determines the political discussion.

Some parts of it didn't age that well... I mean he is right that "the West" is not the good guys, but that doesn't make everyone else the good guys either.

Must be 10 years old. Maybe June or July 2014.

Ok, but what has it fundamentally changed since then?

@@od733 sadly nothing much seeing that 99% of his words still apply.

@@Dante1282 I think in one recording he even said he makes the same jokes about the same topics since 30/40 years, it's just that the names change.

I mentioned him too. Schramm is anwesome. Hope he react to the Video.

I think most of the time the audience doesn't know it to laugh or cry at the jokes, because the jokes indeed are fact based

@@spittylama But sometimes propaganda based. Since 2012 there was a confrontational course of Russia, but we noticed that only after 2022. Of course there was also the confrontational course of Bush Jr. to Russia before. How do we know these dates? At least the cooperation between Doschd and Arte interviewed a Russian media guy and since 2012 he had to talk about the degenerated West. In 2014 they attacked Ukraine from Russian territority and spread a lot of lies. A lot of the people still believe these Russian fairy tales. And Pispers spread some Russian narratives right here too.

​@@spittylama As Pispers said: Satire has to hurt, because medicine must be bitter to work. As anti-idioticum.

Not only that. It is clear, that in Donbas it were Russian troops in 2014. And they tortured a bit more than americans in Irak. In Irak, all said OMG, but in eastern Ukraine and Russia it's quite normal. In the newest Doschd Arte cooperation (possible to see here on RU-vid) you see, that Russia don't even hides torment anymore.

@@Pfefferhaubitze Yeah at that point of time, he was clearly Anti-Amerika (probably also Anti Nato). But in his defence: He only could work with infos, he had at that point of time. So, this didn't aged well

@@Anthyrion No defense is really needed. This part is all about double standards, not about excusing Russia, but merely arguing against the hypocrisy of the West.

@Pfefferhaubitze the maidan revolution was still a coup while east ukraine still wasn't allowed to seperate, even tho the majority wanted/wants to.

@@glowiedetector Don't believe Russian propaganda or spread Russian propaganda. In Germany we have a poem saying "If someone lies once, no one will believe him, even if he then tells the truth." Why Russia had to lie so much? One fake story after the next. Look at Doschd/Arte. It's full of that. There was no freedom movement apart from Russian propaganda towards Russia. Why was there so much election fraud in the eastern part of Ukraine in favour of Russia? Torment, murder and so on. There was an open border and Russia used that open border to infiltrade. Girkin started the war in eastern Ukraine with his guys. The money (5 Mrd. "of Nuland"), which Ukraine got, was from 1991 until Maidan. Also Russian republic got similar payments. E.g. without that american money Russia wouldn't have much basic research left. The Soviet Union collapsed around 1990. Germany, USA and other countries helped Russia and the other former soviet states to survive. Nothing else!

Für die Anstalt gilt das gleich, was ich oben zu Pispers geschrieben habe. Für die ist der demokratische Westen an allem schuld- nobody else. Rußland-Verharmloser sind es auch. Habe das Wort Nestbeschmutzer immer gehasst, auf die Anstalt trifft es zu . Noch schlimmer diese Clownsparade "Heute Show". Der Truthanhalsmoderator verdient 1,3 MIllionen pro Jahr- kein Wunder, dass der immer debil am grinsen ist.

@@gillan5 Unfug. Die Anstalt gibt zu, wenn sie daneben lagen. Sie machen auch praktisch immer einen umfangreichen Quellennachweis. Alles ist nachprüfbar. Ja, die Anstalt hat den Fehler gemacht, russischen Quellen zu sehr zu glauben. Das haben sie aber eingestanden. Ansonsten sind die Dinge peinlich genau recherchiert. Die behaupten nicht einfach irgendetwas, sondern Gags gibt es erst, wenn die Fakten stimmen. Es wäre schön, wenn jeder in der Branche diese Genauigkeit hätte. Die Heute-Show ist auch gut recherchiertes Kabarett. Und die haben die Einschaltquoten, um die Gage zu rechtfertigen.

Und Böhmi

@@juma_media welche Folge?

Yep, Die Anstalt continues to surprise me. Sharp humour and always explaining a topic no politician dares to touch.

I am ever so thankful that he quit. Hope he moves to Russia.

@@gillan5you didn’t understand his performances and message at all, apparently. 🫡

@gillan5 I think that his message was thats puttin = saint then you really shouldn't have stopped going to a school.

@gillan5 Poor soul, your comment says so much about your emotional state. 🙏🏻

Ja, neben Georg Schramm!

I remember how sad he was about the audience - "Thirty years of trying to make people think and people are still electing those who are responsible for the miserable situation - I quit"

Volker is really great!

@@t_7692 Ich war schon erwachsen, als Kohl an die Macht gebracht wurde. Was denkst du wohl...?

​​​​@@melchiorvonsternberg844 Das amerikanische "du" klingt aber sehr Familiär😂 Mußte mir zum Lachen erst noch das Gebiss reinschieben. Die Aussage hat keinen Bezug zu irgendetwas hier, oder? Und ist daher so nützlich wie, ich weiß noch wie Kohl Rainer Barzel als Parteivorsitzender abgelöst hat. Oder ich kann mich noch an Walter Scheel erinnern als er Beckenbauer den Weltmeisterpokal überreicht hat und nein ich sing jetzt nicht "Hoch auf dem gelben Wagen", dann krieg ich Ärger mit der Heimleitung😂 Ergo ist die Senioren-Bonus Nummer glänzend im Rohr krepiert mein junger Freund 🎉

@@melchiorvonsternberg844 Das amerikanische "du" klingt aber sehr Familiär 😆Mußte mir zum Lachen erst noch das Gebiss reinschieben! Die Aussage zu Kohl hat keinen Bezug zu irgendetwas hier, oder? Und ist genauso nützlich wie ich kann mich noch erinnern wie Kohl Rainer Barzel als Parteivorsitzender abgelöst hat. Oder ich weiß noch wie Walter Scheel Beckenbauer den Weltmeisterpokal überreicht hat! Und nein ich sing jetzt nicht "Hoch auf dem gelben Wagen", dann krieg ich Ärger mit der Heimleitung 😆 Ergo ist die Senioren-Bonus Nummer glänzend im Rohr krepiert, mein junger Freund 😇

I think I also saw some faces that were like, "How dare he say that?" because they knew he was telling the truth but they themselves would never have dared to speak out on such sensible topics.

well Putin is evil and mass murder - there is no doubt about it. Russian soldiers are slaughtering Ukrainian civilians every day on Putin's orders. The part about the possible involvement of the USA is just your thinking and not proved. The USA has certainly made many mistakes in its history, but Russia is even worse. Its empire is built on blood and suffering - that of foreign peoples and that of its own population. The Russians are not the good guys here.

Leider sehr sehr viel Whataboutism und Russlandhörigkeit drin.

Geht's um den Fußball...?

And RU-vid helps these easy fairy tales. In normal case facts get voted down. And if you put links in it, it will surely be banned. On RU-vid, the bots always win.

Critical thinking is not the same as criticism. Any idiot can criticise. And every idiot does. In contrast, a professional critic is supposed to critique. Do proper hermeneutics and analyse the shit out of a text, the good and the bad, what works and what doesn't, and what it all means. That requires critical thinking, but that is not what critical thinking is about. Critical thinking is to thinking as critical mass is to mass. There is a qualitative difference. Mark Twain said that most people only think that they are thinking when they are merely rearranging their prejudices. Critical thinking is less about intuition, but more about the ruthless application of axioms. As Socrates put it: If I am wiser than others, it is because I don't imagine myself to know that which I don't know. (Which was immediately misunderstood as "I know that I know nothing.") It is easy to fall into the trap of forming conclusions that align with expectations, rather than what the evidence or assumptions actually bear out.

Just say BER is the german equivalent to the hs2 in britain ^^

You know, Pispers called Putin a war criminal for what he did in Chechnya when the West was still praising Putin for his forward thinking neoliberal politics and trying to do business with him.

It's usually translated as "grub first, then morals".

@@davidwuhrer6704 Thank you very much! 😀 DeepL was not really helpful ...

No. It was after invasion of crimera and after Invasion in Donbas. He spread the fairy tale of Ukraine bombed Ukrainian citizens in Donbas. But there was an invasion over the open border and there are also videos of Russinas (e.g. "War Gonzo" or artillery shelling in 2 directions - 180 degree) shelling in all directions in Donbas. Nothing is like Russia propagates and Pispers believed it.

I thought the Russian invasion of Crimea started in June 1771.

It's impossible not to be hypocritical? What? _> Stopping trade with these problematic countries_ That's called an embargo. Germany stopping the trade with Russia was very much an inconvenience, it required the destruction of a gas pipeline which is an ecological desaster, but it was not impossible. Likewise there is little trade with North Korea, despite the rich mineral deposits there and their desire for imports. And there not being any actual reason for the embargo. The biggest threat to world peace is the USA, which would not be able to survive without imports of everything. Their increasing imports of cheap Russian oil are an ecological desaster of course, but they account for about 40% of the Russian state budget. Most other things the USA import from China, although China gets nothing of value in return, other than the USA no longer invading their neighbours or funding a civil war. At this point, embargoing the USA, the biggest arms dealer in the world directly delivering to all war zones, would be economically possible, and nothing of value would be lost, if the USA didn't have a permanent seat on the UNSC blocking such a resolution. But the USA are trying to resurrect their own industry because they know that China or Russia or even Canada and Mexico could just decide not to do business with them anymore, any day now. Not being a hypocrite would actually be easier than pretending that things are other than what they plainly are.

This really depends on who you mean by "the woke". Woke is a term originating from far right American groups to frame and discredit leftists as these lunatics who scream "Nazi" at everyone and everything they disagree with. If you mean that some overly bored chronically online Twitter User would call him right wing, then probably. But i dont think Most actual leftists would consider this anti-american, anti-capitalist, anti-fascist and anti-racist satirist a right wing comedian.

You want to take a look at Anny Hartmann.

You're definitely allowed to criticize Ukraine If you want, the Problem with that topic speciffically is that the people who criticize Ukraine a lot also often tend to overly side with russia. You are allowed to say that Ukraine wasnt that much less corrupt than russia pre war. You can also say that Ukraine Had massive Problems with social inequality, homophobia etc. There are valid Points to make and at least in my experience these are not things that will get you frowned upon unless you follow it up by saying Something sensationally stupid Like "russias Attack was good and we shouldnt take in their Refugees".

Please always pay attention to what is written on his homepage. He distances himself from many things. Among other things, from the fact that he was forced to stop. If you want to go to prison for expressing your opinion, then you have to do it in Russia, for example. That doesn't happen in Germany. How many journalists have been thrown into prison in Germany so far because of their work?

No, that Poroshenko bombarded Ukrainian civilians living in areas where the party of his predecessor still held office.

@@davidwuhrer6704 There are videos, how Russians are shelling Donbas. E.g. "War Gonzo" shoots with a smile and without combat noise with grenades in different directions. There are also videos, where you can see artillery shooting in 2 directions (180 degree difference). And of course there were fights, where Russians did shoot from residential areas.

@@Pfefferhaubitze There are daily OECD reports about the civil war for the entire eight years.

@@davidwuhrer6704 These 2 Videos were from 2014. The fighting was mainly in 2014 and 2015. Yes, it went on. There was Minsk 1 + 2, which Russia immediately broke (Second Battle of Donetsk Airport, Battle of Debaltseve). The fight went on, but not in that intensity. Mostly snipers and some smaller offensive attacks. According to the UN/OECD, between 2014 and 2021 there were 14000 casualties. 3106 were civilians on both (!) sites. 2020 there were 26 civilan dead, in 2021 it were 25. Most of them went on mines. All the time the St Petersburg troll factory produced fake news about Ukraine. This information war begun at least in 2012.

@@Pfefferhaubitze The Minsk agreement between Kyiv and the Donbas regions was mediated by France, Germany, Belarus, and Russia. Russia could not have broken the agreement because it was not party to it. If the lies were true and Russia had been involved militarily since the coup, then the Russia invasion wouldn't have changed anything. But it did, didn't it.

"I know I'm not rich, but someday I might be, and then people like me better watch their step!"

@@davidwuhrer6704 Why? Because they can stumble? Or they are on the way looking for character? May you should read some books and train something which is located between your ears. But thanks for the openness that your aim is to be rich not human.

@@derbeobachter_246 It's a quote. I put it in quotation marks. You apparently didn't see the quotation marks around the quote that mark the quote as a quotation. And it is a satirical quote. I won't tell you where it is from, because it doesn't matter, and it would probably only confuse you even more. I mean, you didn't even see the obvious irony in it.

In other programs Pispers bashed the Green Party for reaching nothing and no will to reach anything. These videos are hyped on RU-vid. And if you tell, that this is not aged very well, it's getting voted down. Maybe by audience, maybe by bots. But there was the beginning of energy transition. Germany had the leading companies for renewal energy back in 2005. We thought about electrical cars right before Tesla and Chinese cars. We didn't participate in Iraqui war. OK, nearly all was ruined by subsequent governments, maybe because the workers of that industry would had voted green. About 300 000 jobs were gone. For 5000 coal jobs (without people, which would retire) the government spent 40 Mrd Euro. And the support of nuclear power is even higher, but mostly in the past. We have a hard weapon export control, because of which Germany dropped from arms exporter No 3 to No 5. Don't believe Telepolis for telling all about Saudi Arabia and Huthi. But of course our actual government should not sign new weapon deals in that region. We have a minimum wage and an unemployment rate of 6%, which was even smaller before Russia stopped delivering gas. In about 2000 were the country, which didn't meet the 3% target. Business newspapers asked, what could we learn from Italy? In some new federal states there wasn't the AfD above 20%, but the unemployment rate. So why is now all worse except of a crazy Putin?

Du musst dir das mehr wie in Stalingrad vorstellen. Stalin hat auch verboten, dass die Zivilisten evakuiert werden. Machte im Endergebnis, 400.000 Tote Zivilisten. Hier ist die Sache nicht unähnlich gelagert...

I can´t see any "pro-Putism", just being sick of double standards. In other pieces, Pispers makes it quite clear that he condems Putins dictatorship.

@@c.rolfes7124 Pispers is echoing a lot of Putin's lies here. The accusations against Tymoshenko, for example, were completely fabricated, as is often the case in Russia with political opponents. But Pispers presents it as fact.

@@c.rolfes7124 Which double standards? The Germans didn't go to war in Irak. And he spreads here Russian fairy tales. Not very well aged. Torture and murder in Donbas. Most of the Donbas fighters were not Ukrainians. Not in 2014, not in 2022 and of course not now.

@@Pfefferhaubitze Yeah, we sold only weapons. Never forget, we're the good ones. (Which didn't say in any way others must be the good, jeez.)

@@Kokuswolf Which weapons? Do you mean some galvanized pipes from an easten German factory for Irak and some other minor things? Of course we sold weapons, but not to Irak and Ukraine. Yes, we sold some weapons to Saudi Arabia and Turkey and yes, we were the 3rd biggest weapon export nation. But most of it was high tech. Nothing compared to the Russian AK47 in Africa.

They probably blew your Stalinist mind out, didn't they?

@@melchiorvonsternberg844 i am right wing you moron and its a fact that Ukraine started to kill ethnic russians after the Maidan Coup