Operation Ivy walked so All Time Low could run. Jokes aside, RVIVR is great! The Beauty Between is one of my favorite 2010’s punk records. I would also say that Joyce Manor fits pretty evenly in both emo and pop punk and I personally would consider them a pop punk band. Definitely some weird choices in here overall though.
So great to hear the praise for "Tiny Voices". One of the best BR-Songs ever. Goosebumps just by thinking about it and some of the best lyrics about the human condition ever written.
I feel like 70's guy was the most opinionated personality in the room, singlehandedly ramming albums through that nobody else had even heard of, telling everyone else that their picks werent real punk even though he's mostly listened to blues for the last 4 decades. 90's guy got pissed off and just started picking random shit... "well if he gets the Buzzcocks then I get AFI!"
Were you guys disappointed that Acceptance - Phantoms album didn’t make it on this list? Still would love to see your reaction first listen video on that album
I mean, as a list of punk records through the decades, it's fine, still lacking severely in representation from a lot of bands and some I would just not include at all. But as a pop punk list? I think it's pretty terrible. Feels scattered, disjointed, and noncohesive in its structure. If pop punk is just everything outside of 80s hardcore, then I guess this works lol
I think it is a bit all over the shop as your suspicions seem correct, in that each contributor chose their 5 or whatever. Each album has a different set of initials following them. I guess they chose the album to be included?
@@ethanpurita I like Green Day, especially live. It's just... Out of all albums from Kerplunk even up to the trilogy, I happen to enjoy Dookie and American Idiot the least. Probably overplay is becoming more of an issue for me with this band than with others for some reason. All Killer No Filler would easily be my #1 when it comes to pop punk in one of its purest forms. #2 I'd probably put Ixnay on the Hombre which I haven't seen on any of these lists.
If you're going to expand "pop punk" as much as it was expanded on this list, then I'd consider Weezer's Blue album pop punk as well and put it in the top 5.
Maybe it's a UK thing, but I've always associated 'pop punk' exclusively with that kind of 90s/00s whiny Californian-voiced grown man with a skateboard kind of band (some of which I did actually like back then) and never with the 70s bands. How could they possibly be a sub-genre of a genre that didn't exist before they came along. The inclusion of bands like SLF and The Damned, in particular, seems odd, and The Jam aren't even considered a punk band here.
Rolling Stone fucking sucks, but I will give them props for introducing me to Half Fiction, which is now one of my top five albums of all time (the other four are the free fanmade compilation Sleeping With The Lights Out: Discography 1994-1996 by Endive, Dear You by Jawbreaker, Mush by Leatherface, and Alice In Chains self titled). Sure, they probably added it as a filler choice, but im just glad it was included in the list at all!
42. Lagwagon. That album is terrible. Only two listenable songs due to those two song being the only ones near or over 3 minutes. Hard no because of that. Not into short tracks. Gotta be 2:45 or longer for me to even consider listening to it.
@@PunkRockRadar I wouldnt assert "greatest", but Zebrahead would for sure make my top 5 even though they never make these lists. Probably Phoenix or Broadcast, original guitarist with the new singer was my favorite era.
@bushleague3472 Phoenix is a great record, same with Broadcast. I don't think Zebrahead would peak my top 10, but they would definitely be included in my top 50. Might be MFZB over Phoenix, but it's close. - Elliot
@@PunkRockRadar I'm just impressed with their creativity. If you've ever wondered "Could you mix xxx with punk?" whatever is in that blank, Zebrahead has probably tried it at least once. Sure the songs mostly just sound like Zebrahead, but the influences that get worked into the riffage are pretty crazy.
Dude on the bottom has such a lame narrow view on what "pop punk" is to the point where he questions anything that isn't early 00s mall pop punk. Bro the genre didnt start when you put your first Drive Through records compilation in your walkman. 😅
Yeah, I definitely don't think Pop Punk started with Drive Thru bro, but I do have some stipulations and limitations for the 50 greatest pop punk records of all time lol And yeah, it excludes Pennywise, Operation Ivy and The Misfits. Even if elements of pop rock are in 70s punk bands like Buzzcocks & The Damned, I don't consider them true subgenre Pop Punk, which was born out of 80s emotional hardcore. It really didn't start until the late 80s imo. I don't really have an issue if you wanna include those bands, but it's such mismatch for a top 50 list. I'm fine with considering Jawbreaker & Lifetime pop punk, and I do but definitely a different vein from what is typically talked about from the 1990s. I would definitely include those bands in my list. I'm usually thinking of Screeching Weasel, Parasites, Descendents (Not MGTC) & Mr. T Experience as the typical examples, bands that definitely draw from 1970s but mixed it with hardcore. I have no idea what bands your upset about, but i felt I explained my reasons in the video.
@ergoth154 You kinda outed yourself when you said you couldn't understand why Lifetime would be on a list like that. Then I started paying more attention and a lot of inclusions seemed to baffle you. Misfits are a band that utilized very common pop chord progressions. Take away the distortion and vocals and it's like Buddy Holly songs. It's pop at its core. The definition isn't so rigid. Good Charlotte belongs on a pop punk list but Lifetime doesn't? Maybe I'm the crazy one...
@@pechondelgado I'm fine with both, I even said so after thinking about it in the video, which you must have not paid attention to. I already explained the pop rock influences in 70s punk, Misfits aren't a pop punk band, if we are expanding the list to include everything but hardcore, we're just talking about punk, Pop punk is a subgenre, where it starts and ends is up for debate, but I'm drawing the line somewhere and you don't seem to have one.
@@pechondelgado i think the problem is if you count anything with catchy melodies pop punk than all punk except for the most brutal hardcore is pop punk. Adolescents, Circle Jerks, Dead Kennedys, D.I. would be pop punk. When i think pop punk i think more ramonescore stuff like weasel, queers, lillingtons, mtx and i seperate skate punk like nofx, lagwagon, strung out, no use
