REACTION VIDEO | "ERB of History: Douglass vs Jefferson" - Cerebral Flow! 

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Thomas Jefferson was known for being very smart and to always question the actions he’s done after he does them, so his second verse matches that personality trait of him

TBH Jefferson kinda gave up after Douglass' first verse. He went into defense and getting friendly instead of attacking which lost him the battle.

“You let freedom ring but never picked up the phone” honestly one of the best lines ever written

Considering this was basically one verse versus two verses, jefferson peformed admirably.

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I'd say that Douglass won, mainly because Jefferson sort of gave up part way through. I could tell because of Jefferson's line, "So, we cool?"

The big problem for Jefferson was that it was keep slavery or split the country in half, a result that eventually occurred for Lincoln.

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"... Never heard a verse I dug less" Douglass

I was always torn over this battle, because I liked how Jefferson had multiple points of attack in Fredericks ego and his lack of success and such, while Frederick only really talked about one thing, for two whole verses. But then, on a separate note, what else would Frederick talk about? It is in his character to harp on that one issue.

Thomas Jefferson best line: Oh Fredrick, I've ner heard a verse I dug less. Frederick Douglas best line: This ain't Louisiana man, I'm not buying it.

To be fair to Jefferson, historians have never been able to prove he fathered children with his slaves. Jefferson also attempted to end slavery and after he couldn’t, he predicted the civil war would occur over slavery. Douglas also loved the U.S. Constitution, and rightfully so, believed slavery was outlawed with the proper contextual interpretation without the need for a new amendment. His views remind me quite a bit of Justice Clarence Thomas.

The last line from Douglass gave me chills!!

There were some who said that this was "ERB being SJW", but that's just being oversensitive. What else would these two rap about?

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Actually, that's a common misconception Curtis. The Majority of the founders, Jefferson included began making unprecedented efforts to end slavery from the very founding of the nation. Starting with overseeing the creation of the first abolition society in Philadelphia in 1775, and outright banning slavery in Vermont in 1777, not to mention that they ended many branches of the slave trade immediately that had been known for their cruelty. Yes, many of them held slaves, but, whether that was out of necessity, needing to keep up with the economic power of other nations in it's early days, or if it was just out of hypocrisy (something that seems very unlikely, reading their writings), they're STILL the reason that slavery was ended in the first place.

"...on the 4th of July, it's a very important holiday but what the fuck does it mean to this guy.?" *long pause where Douglass stares into your soul* Run and hide, Jefferson! You not ready, ya ain't got the hands for this

Thomas’ first rap hit hard, but Douglass fucking *murdered* him

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1:37 - "Oh Frederick, I never heard a verse I dug less" (dug less = Douglass. It took me a few hearings to catch that!)

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Granted the “baby mama” was the half-sister of his wife who had passed away before they started any form of relationship if I remember correctly. And she was only about 1/4 or so black because it wasn’t anything new in her and her sister’s family to have children with slaves. And she requested that upon his death their children be freed, which he did do. It’s like George Washington. He only had slaves because they belonged to Martha. When he passed away he freed all of them (I believe over 100+). Many of the Founding Fathers were against slavery, but as Jefferson pointed out, they were stuck. The government after independence barely had any money, and trade (considering we haven’t had the Industrial Revolution which greatly revitalized the North economically) needed to be maintained. Never mind fear of a civil war right after barely scraping a victory. My family fought the British, but less than 100 years later were fighting for the Confederacy and owning slaves in Georgia. One of the cousins still lives on the land (oddly enough the woman who wrote “The Color Purple” was born there and my great-aunt used to drive her to school, so I guess we tried to make up for it), and a few years ago my uncle discovered some our ancestors had illegitimate children with slaves, but doesn’t want to contact them because it seems awkward :/ But I have no idea when obtained slaves, and I’m not sure even my uncle knows, especially as it was maternal side that owned slaves and paternal that fought in the 1700s.

This has always been my favorite rap battle. It was one of the first ones I watched and each line was so perfect so it really stuck with me.

Jefferson and Douglas both set us forward massively, without Douglas’ friendship with Lincoln this could be a very different country today.

That was pretty one sided, he hit Jefferson in a weak spot and Jefferson failed to recover.

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all those lines only for Fredrick to say "you finished?" and destroy the fuck out of Jefferson with that one single line

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Honestly I hate this one. They go after Jefferson about slavery even though he was strongly anti slavery. He didn't free his slaves only because he legally couldn't. Washington was able to free his slaves at the time of his death, but by the time Jefferson died, that "loophole" had been closed. And Frederick Douglas did absolutely nothing in the battle but call Jefferson a racist. He didn't say anything about himself. If I didn't already know anything about him, I wouldn't have a clue why he's even famous. He was also very misrepresented in this battle. He knew very well that the 3/5 compromise was an anti slavery clause and he spent much of his time teaching people the benefits of it. From a purely "rap battle effectiveness" point of view, Jefferson won easily. Douglas' raps were all about Jefferson being a racist and nothing about himself. From a historical perspective, they got both figures completely wrong. The paint Jefferson out to be a hypocrite, which he wasn't, and they make Douglas out to be just a typical angry black man, bordering on modern SJW levels of identity politics. The whole thing is shit as far as I'm concerned.

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It was most definitely cerebral, as you said, and it was also very enjoyable. I gotta give it to Frederick Douglass, no contest.

That slave was his 14 YR OLD SISTER-N-LAW SALLY HEMMINGS

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Yes Jefferson was one of the first politicians to discuss ending slavery officially. Also though African-Americans weren't free during that time many still fought in the revolutionary war in fact being one of the first to die was Crispus Attucks who was African-American.

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I like how you give some short history lesson during the rap battle lol

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Just a lil something to tell you about the founding fathers in case you weren't aware Curtis, but the majority, If not, all of the fathers wanted to abolish slavery, hut due to them trying to become a country, and abolishing slavery was just too much for a country trying to be born to accomplish at that time. Just informing in case you didnt know! Keep it up (haha) my favorite old man on RU-vid!

I mean, Frederick Douglas' whole thing revolved around slavery. Dude broke free from the system and built himself up in a way no black man (or at least very few) did before him. I get that it's tough to hear people "harping on" about racial slavery, but that was the entire issue with the guy. Then there's the strange situation with Thomas Jefferson, one of the founding fathers of the U.S. who wanted freedom from a tyrant (the King) - and may have hated the entire slavery angle, but never freed his slaves, especially the one he had the affair with, all to protect his finances. Like of course Douglas would latch onto that.

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If you see "Chizzle this" analysis about this ERB, you realize why this rap battle is so different. Jefferson takes the loss in the middle verse. You usually don't do that on a rap battle, instead of counterattacking he admits Douglas is right and tries to justify himself and even fails at that when it is Douglas' turn to attack him again.

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The problem with this rap battle isn't that it's too political, it's that Jefferson turned into a bitch after the first round. He had no rebuttal. He just apologized.

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From what I understand slavery started because the king order the US to have it because they had not written the declaration of Independence yet but most if not all the founding fathers apposed it

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Don’t forget Jefferson also invented Mac and cheese

It's not only a little hypocrisy, and people knew slavery was bad since the BC times.

what alot of people dont bring up though about the children he fathered and the their mother wasnt freed everyone assumes it was because he didnt practice what he preached. but at that time period after a slave was freed what were they given. what opportunities? how people viewed it back then? so if she remained in service to his household it would mean he assumes all responsibility for her/them. they would have a place to live and food to eat. not trying to defend or anything really just no one tries to think of the time period and maybe their might have been a better reason than what most people are jumping to. if anyone knows for sure and knows where the info can be found that says why he didnt free them please send up a link. i'm curious about it.

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This remains one of my top 5 ERB to date.

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My issue with this is that it was weighted so Douglass would win. Jefferson's first verse was FIRE, and Douglass ignored EVERY point he made - and then Jefferson gave up and let himself be walked over. This was a modern writer infusing Jefferson with a modern sense of white guilt to make a statement. Is it a bad statement? No, absolutely not. But when both sides of a rap battle are written by the same people, and they give preferential treatment to one party, that is NOT a rap battle. The guy who does Douglass was GREAT, don't get me wrong, but this was as much a political stunt as the Bruce Jenner vs Bruce Banner rap. I feel that this one is wasted potential.

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All the founding fathers wanted to get rid of slavery. David Barton wall builders here on youtube can inform you.

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While Douglass definately won this in my opinion, I am glad they let Jefferson defend himself. It's easy to say what should have been done when you don't consider the situation at the time. Unfortunately, at the time, the slave trade was so ingrained into the economy that just axing it entirely would risk financial collapse. And if you wanna know what completely upending an economy looks like, take a loot at Russia and former Soviet bloc countries immediately after the union dissolved when they went from controlled economy to the free market almost over night.

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Jefferson did not father kids with a slave. It's a baseless rumor. In fact, it's far more likely that the father was a mentally-damaged relative of Jefferson's (can't remember if it was his brother or what).

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this battle is vey intelligent, between two intelligent men, but Douglass only really had two points. His self hardships through slavery, and how hypocritical Jefferson was of slavery. Other than that, he didn't bring much to the table in this battle.

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2:53 - Sally Hemmings was Jefferson's slave and mistress. This sounds awful, but by all accounts the two were seriously in love. (Of course, I don't know how Mrs. Jefferson felt about it... )

I wonder why Jefferson never freed Sally Hemings. He let to of his kids with her 'escape' before he died, and set the other two surviving children free in his will, and all the other slaves Jefferson ever set free were all Sally's family...so why not her? While he was alive I could understand him not freeing her, since he likely feared how it'd look if such a well known figure was in a romantic relationship with a freed woman of colour, and that could have also put unwanted attention on his kids, but why not free her in his will? That's what puzzles me. At least Jefferson's daughter did free Sally, and she got to spend a decade living with her kids as a free woman before passing away.

Yeah, again. lessof a battle, more of a statement, though far less than the other two. At least this one should be the last of these, so the rest shouldn't be as tainted as these.

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He had a womanizing brother who historians agree was likely the father of the kids. Thomas Jefferson was a faithful man.

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