Real Doctor Reacts to "Adam Ruins the Hospital" 

Same, I had an ovarian cyst drove myself.

Sarahgrace Cook probably quicker

yeah, I had a back injury in middle school that left me unable to walk (thank you US education and negligence) so my mom just drove me

Sarahgrace Cook I mean honestly I feel like you can get there faster depending on the area.

I have to wear a necklace that says i have seizures and cant afford the abulance bill so dont call them unless i stop breathing. Fucking ridiculous.

Wow that’s horrible

@@rickorshae8490 dont even get me started on the "free" lactation specialist

Wait... they charged you to lay your baby on your body?! That’s insane!

Imma get a midwife if I get pregnant and give birth.

Wow that is terrible

We have socialized Healthcare and our hospitals are privatized ..means they ARE a profit organisation ..which means ..adam was completely right ..

@@AndroidFerret We don't have socialized healthcare. Even the ACA is entirely private insurance. Even Medicare and Medicaid rely on private companies. It is obscene.

@@DianeKovacs I find non-socialized healthcare bizarre. I'm grateful to have it. Oh no, emergency! $10 000 and we'll take a peek at it. Better not get hurt!

Most making comments really don't know how the health care industry works. Yes Medicare and Medicaid are managed by a private company, they are funded by the US government.

@@blythehaynes3765 i have no clue about that ..im from Germany ..

Most insurance companies will only pay out Medicare rates or lower

It could just as easily be attributed to the extremely high "cost of doing business" from a legal perspective. Frivolous lawsuits are the norm in this country, and the associated costs are passed on to the consumer. Another factor is how the medical industrial complex is run in this country. It's the same in many industries such as tech, food, auto, and weapons - the lawmakers don't work for the people, they work for the lobbists/corporations. Far too many laws contain unnecessary provisions/wording designed to keep profit margins astronomically high or strengthen/create a monopoly. These are industries that NEED safety regulations, however. Neither political party is going to fix it either. They have too many donors that make their money this way. TLDR: It's just a Dr. Mike says... The reasons are far too numerous and varied to be easily summed up, or easily fixed.

We need a adam : but actually

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Me: Actually you just said a hospital NEEDS to make a profit! Incorrect! Profit is a business model for businesses who’s only purpose is TO MAKE MONEY. For example a Resturant feeds ppl not just to feed ppl but to make the owner tons of money for his pocket. A hospitals only purpose should be to HEAL PPL, hospice should not be a money making business. It’s simple as that, cause the second you do that you are putting a price on being alive, which means ppl who can’t pay that price have to figure out how to keep themselves alive. Sounds like every dystopian future movie I’ve ever seen!

Endstone Creeper THATS MY POINT DUDE. Society has put a price on allowing ppl to have good health, and it starts right from college when ppl want to be doctors FOR THE MULA. When the only reason ppl help other ppl is because of money that’s just pathetic. Also think about the fact that there are ppl who pay a lot for medical education then go and provide free healthcare, and that’s what they do with their life. Why? Because they understand that’s how it should work.

"countless." had you paid for it in the US it'd be over already. *Laughs in non-indoctrinated.

Except u pay insane taxes and have to wait years to get something done

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@@ethanwilliams4559 hi, as someone here with a chronic condition, I hope you're not trying to imply that if they had been in the US their brother wouldn't have needed all of those surgeries. Because that's just not accurate. I've probably had just as many if not more than their brother, the only difference is I'm carrying almost $100,000 in debt as a result, where they are not.

America's wild. Here in the UK I can usually get an appointment with my GP within a couple weeks, and I don't have to pay a penny. Whenever anything weird happens I feel completely comfortable booking an appointment with my GP. Only issue is that ER has 4+ hour wait times unless you are literally dying.

I can usually get mine same week or the next and pay like $10-25 a visit. I live in a city too

I'm poor so the state funds my health care and that means I'm actually waiting months for appointments

Well, I can go to my doctor without an appointment. (15-30 minutes waiting time) and it's completely free.

“Talk to your doctor” is not advice to solve healthcare problems. It’s advice pertaining to your health. Doctors like Mike will say “talk to your doctor” in part because making a diagnoses is complicated and your doctor will have your medical history to narrow down the diagnoses, and in part it is to stop himself from giving his own diagnoses with limited information, which could lead to a patient making a bad decision and making Dr. Mike liable. Healthcare is a completely separate issue.

Thats the idea~

Never mind that the legal poverty line is *absurdly* low and not at all reflective of poverty in real-life terms. If they adjusted it to reflect reality, though, an embarrassingly large percentage of the country would suddenly count.

The poverty line barely even exists anymore. Along with the 'middle class'. Middle class is usually one paycheck away from losing your house/car/life.

Hell even the property line is literally flawed I seen outside of a food drive where I was helping at literally turn down a mom with a baby and she was yelling and I went up to her asked what's wrong she said that she was dyned because they considered her to rich and the governments proverty line she was literally a inch above it and she was crying having a break down because she didn't know how she's gonna get food for her baby and said she didn't want end up stealing for food I helped her out obviously but this literally opened my eyes that literally proverty to goverment and them is someone whose literally on the streets dyned by any shelter nothing to live for and sick almost dying is in proverty if they're in a homeless shelter it doesn't matter that's a home so they're not in proverty

@@Emilythematerialgurl Wow, that's so unfortunately messed, I'm so sorry for all those that happens to

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@Sadjib Oljavek Quaranzumas III lol awesome

@Sadjib Oljavek Quaranzumas III not just lemons but most of the food we have today is through genetic engineering

@Karan he doesn't mean from scratch. Do you know what genetic engineering is. Or genetics. Well go on Google and type in genetic engineering of fruits and you'll see how WE took the favourable traits of fruits and selecting them to create better fruits from their offspring.

Isn't it still cheaper than not doing it?

@@tomlxyz A Mercedes is cheaper than a Rolls Royce, but that's kind of irrelevant to someone who can't afford a metro pass. Preventive care only adds value if low income families can access it and afford to pay for it without a health plan.

100%%%

Can definitely recommend a video by Evan Edinger that covers the vast cost/price disparity, simply by comparing healthcare prices in the US and the UK. In the UK there's very little profit motive, so what we're charged (or rather, what is paid by the government via public spending) is much closer to the actual cost of the treatment. In the US, prices were between 10 and 1000 times the cost in the UK. And it's not because you have better healthcare.

YES and all the unnecessary spending goes into their huge salaries and big CEOs

It’s actually not that weird that female doctors don’t believe their female patients because they are learning the same material in medical as their make peers which all stems from a lack of research on the differences between men & women(ex: symptoms of heart attacks)

*medical school

@@beautiful.nightmare13 It is weird though. These would be the same people experiencing this trend and hearing it from their loved ones to then continue it. Okay, then it is at least extremely unfortunate and disappointing.

Doctors are required to tell you the "standard of care" so what is the point of talking to my doctor. They have a gag order not to be honest with me.

​@@james6873t New York State, USA. No one in my area was accepting new patients. Even now there are not that many. The one I eventually found was new and needed patients. I looked right at the PA. "Prove it. Find one, right now." Web page. Scroll, scroll, scroll. "Don't recommend it if it's not possible."

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Alex HB you determine the price because u know ? There are people that are hired to send the bills , accounting , due insurance etc. etc. and that *doesn’t* cover the *80* hour a week shifts that medical staff work in hospitals . It’s not that hard to see why personalised healthcare (a US problem) is ineffective to tax-based healthcare . L

@@lulu1night4ever mk

Exactly. You can turn a profit without overcharging.

That isn't hospital's fault, that is insurance companies fault who strongarm hospitals into giving them massive discounts on everything and then hospitals have to raise the price to compensate because most hospitals are non-profit.

And also to have the government have much better oversight and a system that helps everyone.

I mean what person who wants socialized healthcare doesn't already think insurance companies are equally scummy?

actually the full clip of the episode does also gives the insurance companies part of the blame. i wouldn't have cut out so much because context is missing (but i understand it for copyright reasons)

Welcome to the land of capital baby!

@@TOH_Fan to be fair the capitalist nature is less of a problem and it’s more the global influence America wants to present, if spend else where was reduced and brought home things like government healthcare and even education could have big gains in improvement, but America putting its hands everywhere and not focusing on itself caused these issues, 80 years ago these things weren’t a problem they’ve become more and more of a problem since the Cold War and America’s global presence has increased.

@@kevinkarraker9864 problem with subsidised healthcare (or socialism, if we want to call it that) is, that they only pay you the cheapest treatments trust me, my mother works as an doctor-assistant, and she said to me once, that I should better see to get a private-health-insurence

@@therealwinston3634 i didn’t say anything about subsidized health care, I was just saying that if we as a country focused on our selfs we could improve. A mix of privatization and subsidized healthcare or a system similar to a school choice system for health care, I think there are more ways to do health care than what we have or socialism and if we lowered our global presence and government spending we might be able to try them out

Fact

Minimum wage is not equal to livable wage

I recently had a surgery. I got a bill from the hospital, I then get a bill from the anesthesiologist, then I get one from the actual surgeon. Don't forget bills from the person who did an ultra sound, and then one from a cat scan. It's very confusing and you have know idea how much what going to cost. Heaven forbid one of those is out of network.

My mom lives off survivor's benefits from social security. She doesn't qualify for just about any programs. In order to qualify she would have to be making 1,499.00. A month. 1,500 a month, nope. And I'm just talking about supplemental insurance. She's on Medicare, but it basically covers nothing and costs her $250 a month. They deduct it automatically. It's freaking insane. And terrifying.

You need to find away to move to Canada, I think they have free healthcare there

Taylor N no. It isn’t free. It’s paid for by higher taxes. But it is available to all.

We hope

I hope so too. Spent 3 months playing "is it a pulled ligament or a blood clot in your leg" before I finally had to go to the doctor. And then a thousand dollars out of pocket between the visit and the hospital for a ultrasound, and its a ligament issue. But the good news, this visit made me hit my deductible, in late October which resets in January.

We have Universal healthcare here, its dreadful and I pity anyone who cant afford to go private

@@T0mm3n where is here?

The problem is figuring out *which* flavor of universal healthcare actually works the best for us

As a Canadian living in Québec, I can't relate even more 😜

As a Canadian and American dual citizen who lives in the States I can relate but don't know why I continue to relate.

Atleast we don’t have to wait 6 months to get treatment

As a Dane, I can't relate either

Yes, we have a different healthcare system. We don't have to deal with all this bs, but then again, we spent roughly half our tax dollars on healthcare, and we have wait times that are way too long. No healthcare system is perfect.

Laughs and sips tea

Laughs in Swiss... That's awesome. 😁

how much money does america give to yall?

"Free"

@@DavidSmith-cr7mb do you mean your 20 trillion debt?

@@bliant3877 same

-4 Subscribers with a hammer addiction haha

Adam became chunccier

That would have been great

DUDE UR ALL OVER RU-vid HOW

Don't forget when they need to pay when ambulance is called

Oh yes I can imagine (I'm German btw... I mean our Healthcare system is good... But yours is definitely better 😁)

Don't forget the tax bill you're presented with over a life time - nothing is for free.

@ Thats the point tough. ITs a small amount of money spread out over your life time. Rather a huge lump sum every year. In addition its not just you paying in, the rest of the population is, which means the cost for you as an individual is much smaller.

juzt156 as one of the people have paid 60+% in taxes for decade, I seriously doubt it would be more expensive with insurance. I know the idea is that the broadest should carry the biggest burden but seriously... anyone paying more than 50% in taxes is being robbed and shafted by their government. That's my opinion - it's ok to disagree with me 😊

You should see the chargemaster. Oh yea the hospital loves to hide it🤣🤣🤣

Fuscous GD Nothing is free.

Where does that money come from ?

Nothing is actually free

*laughs in inferior healthcare*

@@gentlemanjones8469 Nah, you can still pay for private healthcare

Most of the chargemaster scene is jokes and he did address the chargemaster

@@camtootrash2515 I'm talking about the cutscene from when they first introduced it, the part he cut out for some reason

Cameron Spurvey probably because he didn’t have a reaction to it? Because we’re here to see his reaction, not the Adam ruins everything episode

Yeah dang it, that was one of the biggest things I wanted a yes or no on. I guess since he decided not to dispute it would in some part say that it's true and unfortunately used in that manner. I'm sure the fact he works for a hospital has something to do with not outright saying.

@@RealitySurreal I wanted him to address the chargemaster too. I also think there is some truth to what Adam was saying which is why he didn't outright address it. I did a little bit of medical coding years ago and had always wondered how they came up with the prices. Yeah, I found out later on that some of the pricing is really made up...like there is no real way they could justify some of the pricing to be so high.

I really liked Adam Ruins Everything. Then he did an episode on the second amendment and guns. This is an area I actually have quite a bit of knowledge in and was looking forward to it. They get a LOT wrong in the second amendment episode. They mix several legal concepts up (stand your ground, castle doctrine, and duty to retreat). They take multiple shots at the NRA (which is fine, I'm not a fan of the NRA). They talk about a self defense case where a black man shot someone in self defense and mentioned the NRA was nowhere to help the black man. The problem is that the NRA doesn't do self defense cases, they do gun rights cases and it wasn't a gun rights case. The NRA has helped black individuals get their guns rights back but they don't mention those. There's also another case where a black woman shot her abusive boyfriend. They mention it's a reason to loosen self defense law. That woman later won in appeal and is an advocate of STRENGTHENING self defense law. I understand there's a lot of research that goes into these shows. However, when asserting that the NRA didn't help a black person in a case, which is implying they're only for white people having their gun rights, they could have actually looked into whether the NRA does help minorities or not. Again, I don't care for the NRA. I understand guns are a controversial topic. I'm not here to convince anyone otherwise. However, that episode showed me that they cherry picked data for a specific narrative. It made me question other episodes they've done. Also, it irked me that they mentioned gun rights and racism but didn't point out that gun control started out racist and currently only hurts poor minorities. It only hurts poor people when adding cost and tax stamps to firearms.

He’s more of a Reddit echo chamber mouth piece for overindulgent beardnecks. Which is why to this day he still hasn’t made a ruin video about reddit and beardnecks.

@@kishascapehe may. He just started posting on RU-vid. Sincerely, Not a Beardneck

That's not all excuse to get so many things wrong. If you're unable to make quality content that is mostly accurate and informative, you shouldn't try.

@@alexanderwu literally this. It is okay to make mistakes, and I am a firm believer in growing from mistakes and second chances. But Adam constantly makes mistakes and defends them and deny they exist, not even an attempt to learn from it. Someone who isnt willing to learn from a mistake will only learn how to make it again... thats the guy you want to listen to? Cause that is a mistake yourself then. He reminds me of my dad funnily enough, but only because just like my dad he must be right in everything- but he has such an open mind teehee!

Similar for me. I got charged for 15 stitches to the front of my head, a X-ray of my nose, and was sent home with symptoms of a head injury. No CT scan. Turns out I did have a traumatic brain injury, but thank god they knew I didn’t break my nose 🙄

I'm sure they knew you had a concussion and told you to get plenty of rest which, guess what, is the only real treatment for a concussion. Doctors arent magic, some things you just gotta chill out with. Im sure they told whoever you were with to keep an eye on you and told you to tell them if anything felt off. If you dont believe that rest is the best thing for a concussion then please tell me what treatment you would use. Also how long after your concussion were you at the office for? Most concerning symptoms of a concussion occur within 3 to 6 hours from the time of the injury. Give us more information because you obviously found out about your concussion somehow. Unless it was a self diagnosis which in that case you are just the average idiot going on webMD and finding out they have every cancer in the world

@@Critical3rror wow dude, way to call someone an idiot behind anonymity. Yeah, I think it's safe to say, seeing stars and blurred vision for a moment followed by throwing up and lightheadedness would indicate a concussion. And yeah, $998 for 2 staples. Healthcare in America is a joke.

​@@Critical3rror Im sure that you have no way of knowing what a doctor said to somebody you don't know on the internet, but here you are acting like you're omniscient and know exactly what happens to everybody. Stop pretending that doctors are perfect and are incapable of making mistakes, hundreds of thousands of people die from medical mistakes each year so why are you assuming that the doctors knew this random person that you have never met had a concussion and treated them accordingly. By the way, trying to self-diagnosis yourself doesn't make you an idiot, it's normal for people to be concerned or act irrationally when they feel like something is wrong within their body; Yes, certain ailments require a medical diagnosis, but you don't degrade people for trying to figure out what's wrong with them. Concussions are also one of the easiest conditions to diagnose too, it's not impossible for somebody to put two and two together. I get that it might be annoying to live in a culture where certain illnesses are considered cool or quirky to a lot of people but you have to consider the fact that ailments and injuries are extremely common; Most people are just trying to figure out why they have a sharp pain in their chest or why they're nose is stuffy without having to spend money on an appointment only to be told something they already know like drink warm liquids or get plenty of sleep. (doctors appointments are not always free for some people!)

My mom pulled several tendons in her leg and had to pay $1200 for a brace that, if you went to the website of the company that made the brace, cost 60 or 70.

Mike has to edit to make his points he needs to have job security 🤣

Doctor defending his greedy profession

@@humblegorilla935 don't say that he doesn't like how it works and believes it isn't right so don't connect him to it. Also he doesn't like how Adam presented it and I fully understand why. Adam ruins everything is show proven information on something that we use every day and in a later episode he explains on this (not the hospital subject exactly) of how you can still do or use the things he talks about. From what I know the whole purpose of the show is to tell you information about certain subjects and how to make it better (depending on what subject) but how he explains this episode is making out all hospital look bad and methods of medical practices. So please don't judge him for criticizing the show for that oh and sorry for the long comment but next time be careful of what you say. =)

@@humblegorilla935 😂 Poor and jealous. It's ok bro. Being poor makes us tough, don't be a hater

he pretty much explained it so he thought he shouldnt put that part

Keep telling yourself that. The NHS is a massive shitshow. My grandad had fallen down the stairs and broken his hip, and was left waiting for 4 and a half hours on the floor for an ambulance and then was given some pretty poor attention in the hospital because of how crowded it was.

@@Algebruh2407 it wasn't like that until the tories came in

That depends on who you talk to. The UK NHS isn't all unicorns and rainbows.

I worked in bill collections for awhile. Based on the absurd medical bills hospitals sold to collection agencies I call bullshit on your post.

B.S. the hospitals do indeed control it. The part insurance plays is how much they will pay. Not the gross amount a hospital can charge. No wonder the American people get screwed on medical bills. People that work in billing making mistakes like the one you just spoke. That's why 90% of medical bills contain errors

@@Lowlightt you're right they're on that bullshit

I'm in Canada. My brother is diabetic. If you can come to Canada to buy insulin. Burnie Sanders brought a bus load of diabetics to my province for cheaper insulin not long ago.

@@eastcoastlockdownbullies Yes, I'm actually originally from Egypt and I visited last year for Christmas. I was able to buy Humalog pens for less than $2 (USD) each. I regret not getting more.

In sweden the government gives you 10k usd for the inconvience of being diabetic and all the insulin is free.

This needs to be said more in more places.

Sooner or later you still bought it though

How so? There is no free healthcare anywhere in the world.

Johann Gotlub shhhhhhh you’re being dumb use google first

@@johanngotlub7662 *Laughs in England*

@@johanngotlub7662 uhm actually, there are free healthcares in most countries

@@johanngotlub7662 .....

Yea it was REAL easy to tell he's an advocate for the hospital system just from his responses that were pretty much saying yeeaaa I know it sucks and isn't Right or fair but Eh what can you do this is how it is 😁

I have doctors, nurses, and pharmacists in my family and I also work in health care. You are doing the exact same thing as Adam with oversimplification. It sounds more like your family members are not working in good hospitals.

he's smarter than you

$20 for a bandaid

Capitalism is truly amazing 😍

I mean, it is a somewhat similar thing that happens in Australia. I went to see a specialist surgeon in a public hospital because the public hospital rents out rooms to private providers and doctors. The reasons for it though is because the Australian public hospitals (at least in the state that I live in) are often strapped for cash in the suburbs, and our public healthcare system doesn't cover things like non-emergency dental, optometrists, audiologists and cosmetic surgery, but they want to make it cheaper and more convenient for the public by offering it all in one place as well as reducing costs for the private practice (to hopefully make it cheaper for the clients as well)

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free healthcare is stupid. even making everything free is stupid. economy is a important part of our life. people cant just understand finance and business. making things free can make money lose value. even giving away money can even drop the value of money. money can power anything, ego, business, etc. and without its value it can crash the economy and literally make the world bankrupt. people just want everything to be free. theres nothing free in life, you work hard for it.

Life saving services are not in existence to support economies. There is a point where the purpose (hospitals doing their job) is more important than the side effect (making some people money). Sometime we have to face the consequences of our choices to put the economy on a pedestal and leave the people to die. Making a profit off of treating people is immoral when people are allowed to die for lack of funds. Making a profit in housing is immoral when people are made homeless for lack of money to pay rent. Making a profit in any business is immoral when that business pays any of its employees less than they need to survive. You'll notice there is a difference between covering expenses, and turning a profit. Covering expenses in necessary. Turning a profit in excess of necessary expenses is not necessary. That profit is immoral when it results in human casualties that wouldn't be necessary if the organization only covered expenses.

@@alalalalsekkeke people actually realise that its not free. But surely America needs some changes? Do you really thing that the overcharging is fair? In a situation where you cant comparison shop? Also making healthcare free can also be an investment ask yourself this Is a healthy workforce more productive? Is being bankrupt by medical bills a motivator for crime?

America is the third largest country in the world. Are prices absurd? of course. Would free healthcare fix this? No, it would leave most hospitals shutting down due to the loss of profit because of pharmaceutical, employee, equipment, special care, etc. bills that need to be covered for the over 300 million people in the U.S. should they need to come in. If you can't make money, you can't make things better.

@@Thunderth with real prices and proper regulation the system would be massively better. And if that was done free healthcare would be feasible although not necessary. Although I feel children should get free healthcare

Thank you

An educated decision should be based on updated facts and the whole truth. Selective dissemination of these truths doesn't really help in making the educated decision. So, no, he's not a 100% right.

yeah funny how a doctor, a person who benefits off these practices left that context out and had a problem with the video despite admitting constantly adam is correct

@@mckenzie.latham91 well he doesn't directly benefit however there is a gag order on drug to hospital transfering meaning he risks his job to speak on that one

It got exponentially worse when insurance has been made mandatory.

@@mckenzie.latham91 he doesn't benefit from it, but it could jeopardize his job to speak about it.

I think he skipped that part , it supposed to be in the opening though, i dont get it either

Julie Walker he said countless times he agreed

He agrees with the information, not the presentation and delivery.

Agrees on some of the info not totally on the presentation part that is why he's providing recommendation on how to improve the presentation and the information..

I think he more doesn’t like the oversimplification but Adam Ruins Everything is supposed to be entertaining so it can’t.

If anything he was against the presentation, not the information

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Yeah, sadly because Mike’s in this system he’s drank the Privatised Healthcare Koolaid and refuses to acknowledge that Adam’s right. Americans are getting swindled out of every dollar the hospitals and their insurance companies can squeeze out of them. I’d know. Before my mom moved us to the UK she worked for one of the biggest Medical Insurance companies in the United States. She worked Data entry and she realised just how much the customers who didn’t work for the company were getting screwed out of.

EXACTLY... instead of "reacting" to this amazing video of Adam trying to educate us....why not be PROACTIVE and come up with solutions/actions you can do to actually help people?

Sounds like you know nothing then. Doctor don't benefit from defending the healthcare system. In fact, in many cases, doctors suffer from the greed. I'm in med school and Dr Mike was def. In the wrong with how he defended these companies

Jacob Connolly Not a native speaker, but yeah, you’re right 😜

Jacob Connolly Funny thing, if I translate this to my own language I would make the same mistake. It’s indeed a double negative. Didn’t see it the first time I guess.. 😂

Jacob Connolly Dutch. ✌🏻

lol literally every other country healthcare is free and actually America has a worse system in every part compared to even England and those fuckheads can’t even have straight teeth

Bram Slootmans that’s really cool!

I always ignore my hospital bills. I don't even open them anymore.

@@jaymesigler6402 me too maby because I dont live in the US and we dont have medical Bill's

@@a.n.l.aantineoliberalismas4504 Are there scams where people send medical bills to folks in countries with socialized medicine? I feel like it might actually work.

@@jaymesigler6402 that ao depends on the state in Florida if u cant pay a hospital bill for a certain amount of years it goes away(certain types will stay i think) but in New York it can follow u for life and ive heard can even cause legal problems

Jayme Sigler honestly I have done the same thing. I work in Vegas and see ambulances come to pick up homeless people off the strip all the time. Why am I paying for hospital treatments when they are treating others for free?

That’s what other countries do. Hospitals get funded through taxes like police and fire departments

How doctor and nurses get paid?

@@tjohnnyf7100 same way we pay for the police

The problem with that is that everyone’s taxes will skyrocket to the point where the average family barely has any income

@@brandongraves9353 says who?

Charity care programs

@@knoobiez What about them? If citizens need to use charity care programs for healthcare then their government is a complete failure.

Honestly yeah. He's not gonna throw his job under the bus. Our Healthcare system is unbelievably fucked. And I don't even trust doctors anymore. :l

Whoah. It's almost like Doctor Mike said the entire system for how healtchcare is paid for is the problem.

@@EveIrkens Yeah same here. I still like Doctor Mike. I don't think he's a bad person. He genuinely wants to help people. I mean he's a doctor so of course. But there's a lot of things that even most doctors don't realize. And that's that holistic medicine has been demonized for many generations in favor of allopathic medicine which has created more problems than solutions for many people. Obviously some holistic medicine might be quackery but others aren't. And don't even get me started on the recent jabby jabs that are being forced on everyone.

i got charged $15 to glue my head back together after i split it open...

My family got charged about $1000. We waited the majority in the waiting room.

@Zhou Zay the NHS is much better. You not having to pay for an insurance policy that not every hospital will take and pay for a broken leg. Yes we pay council tax and income tax which goes towards it .

If restaurant managers paid their waitresses adequate wage then there will be no need for tips to exist. If we make education cheaper thus more educated and successful citizens, then there would be no need for charity programs. If Kim Jong un didn't hate America then there would be no need for nuclear warfare. Too many if's not enough reality. Face it this is the reality of a capitalistic system.

Well said

@Not Sure underrated reply

Correct. Hospitals don't need to be for profit, and in fact many aren't. Non-profit doesn't mean no salaries for the workers, it means they get enough to pay adequate salaries for all employees plus enough to cover all basic costs of existing, operating, and for the services provided. A huge part of health care costs in the US is due to the massive for profit insurance companies in the middle. If we took all the costs of premiums for healthcare we all currently pay, and instead allowed those costs to be taken as tax to pay for universal healthcare, we would save money and completely cover all in our country. I need to look up the data to link here, but the statements that hospitals need to make money is false.

Tenshi Chan Exactly!

Tenshi Chan exactly I think he missed the point entirely. Adam isn’t trying to paint hospitals in a horrible light, he’s pointing out the things that needs to change.

If you watch the whole show instead of a highly abbreviated version which is what we just saw and watched Mike comment on. It's easy to control opinion when we control the flow of information.

Tenshi Chan agreed

i really dont understand but u sound smart so i’m liking the comment

Lmao he hearted it

@Thomas Borisov lol what the NHS is brilliant, it's one of the largest employers in the world and provides completely free healthcare for everyone, you don't even have to pay national insurance (which is only like £100 a month) if you don't earn enough

@lelennyfox34 hahaha implying doctors etc aren't caring and don't treat you well just because it's public healthcare? Never said you had to go for public, but I count my lucky fucking stars that I'm not American and won't go bankrupt if ever I get cancer. Keep your private healthcare for all I care, but know that the people who use the NHS think it's amazing and we consider ourselves lucky to not have a private system like in America

You’re British, how unfortunate your healthcare is nothing compared to Germany’s. Imagine having to pay for Prescriptions and dental care and you also have Higher Taxes!!! Pathetic!

@@trayvonjackson4830 oh don't get me wrong, other nationalised systems are better than ours, but we're individually all waaaay better than the 'Murican system

Not to mention the fact that these folks have families and potentially children. Sometimes there is a price that's too high even in the aspect of life or death, and it's awful that that's the case and I wish your dad the best

paranoiaprincess that'd make for a really interesting video!

I'm a Canadian medical student studying abroad and i am interested in Dr.Mike's opinion on this.... Ca VS USA...

The worst I've heard is it might take months to be seen for certain conditions/tests. But for poor people in America a 6 month wait is better than not being seen at all. Also I see people whining about increased taxes, but I think people save in the long run when you calculate premiums/deductibles/prescriptions

You have a health care system we have a hostage system.

@@jayag26 you are absolutely correct my friend. Americans actually pay more as well, because in place of preventitive care (which is free here, so most people take advantage of it) they wait until they're pretty much dying, and go into the ER. They then pay for it later A lot of people in the US also have the opinion of "If there's nothing wrong, then I save money by not having gone to the doctor. I don't want to pay (taxes) for others to be healthy." When in reality, many states have higher taxes than Canada (all of the provinces) and they STILL have to pay for healthcare ON TOP of that. The American healthcare system really pisses me off. It's a super money hungry system, but what bothers me the most, is how many people are incredibly greedy; they would rather save money on Taxes, than help spend a little bit of money to help people out and/or help disabled people live a somewhat more normal life. I'm severely disabled, but because of my personality, I *know* that if I were given a choice, I would sooner give the 13% GST/PST, and a fraction of what I am paid, if it means that I'm helping people by doing so. Anyway, I'm not feeling well right now, and I know I had other points, I just can't remember them :S. I'll add in edits if I do.

It’s because he couldn’t let himself be wrong about saying Adam is blaming our healthcare not being the best on the fact hospitals charge too much and saying he needed to talk about the reasons when Adam did in fact talk about the reasons hospitals have such insane prices

@@charaleet6494 to those of you defending the fact that he didn't explain the reasons: you're just making excuses. This Dr. does have time - people would not "drift off" - give us some credit here. He makes videos about REDDIT posts! He does have the time, he just counter-facted the statement without proof of his own but I guess you bought it, so it's only natural that you'd think the rest of the population should just accept the statement and move on? Get real.

He also might not of delved into because he isnt the one who works with insurance at his hospital or work for an insurance company so he might not of had the info to comfortably speak about it

Cate Brio No it really is an explanation of its own The prices for medication goes up as healthcare is becoming more and more “free” So instead of going on and on, free healthcare is dumped onto the the insurance company’s, this means that they charge the hospitals more because they’re paying out of pocket and the hospitals have to make profit since making the government pay for it like other countries do would boost taxes significantly Which is why a lot of people who move to Canada come back due to finance issues

I'm curious if someone without insurance could sue the hospital for having secret prices. Normally, the secret pricing is allowed because of insurance.

This.

My mom took my sister to the hospital when she got sick at school once. Doctor just looked at her and send her home telling her to drink Gatorade. She had to pay near $200 for this. Hospitals are scams. I know the people working for them and actually saving lives are doing good, but the actual institution is corrupt and works hand in hand with the pharmaceutical companies to sell even more drugs (some that become gateway drugs for the millions suffering of drug addiction in the U.S)

@@mav3ric100 So, you got a professional to look at her and complain? Get over yourself idiot. So, your leg is blown away in a car accident and you're screaming like a moron, I should A) not giving you the pharmaceutical product that would completely remove the pain and b) do surgery on you with that amount of pain because you have no self control and can become and addict? Shut up already, stop blaming the products that WORK AS INTENDED if morons are become addicted to it. IF that's the case, just don't take them. Its an option, live with the pain. EZ. Case closed.

Peter Voldrin and A Coul YA’LL NEED TO TAKE A CHILL PILL (not sold by the pharmaceutical companies)

@@Arcron you're so ignorant

Yep. We rank highest in cost and can't make it into the top 20s for ranking.

Lmfao

I enjoy Dr. Mike's videos as well but I couldn't agree more with you on this point. It rubbed me the wrong way how much he tried to justify the cost of healthcare. It's expensive yes, but as you said should be subsidized and not come from the pockets of patients.

I think you need an MRI. If hospitals didn't make a profit or at least a little profit, they would not be able to hire highly trained doctors,buy and build better equipment that goes back to providing better care for YOU! You are missing the point, the charging of medication, supplies and equipment is through the roof compared to what you would pay for an aspirin at Walmart!

i don't think he said that even once? he said that saying that hospitals are greedy and overcharging people isn't solving the problem and that you need to look at the whole healthcare system not just one symptom of it. healthcare SHOULD be free but that doesn't mean the hospital can just suddenly up and decide to do everything free of charge because the money DOES need to come from somewhere. it's a problem with the entire country not individual hospitals lol.

Except the healthcare in other nations is way worse than the US outside of cost

Not sure I agree. When he said hospitals need to turn a profit, yes that was a bit silly, but it is true that hospitals need to turn REVENUE, because the machines and doctors and nurses need to be paid for and that money has to come from somewhere. If you live in the uk or Canada like myself, and the government controls all the finances (ie decides how much you can charge for certain treatments) in the healthcare sector, they can’t pay the doctors as much and hospitals will close. Also comparing health care GDP costs to “other developed nations” isn’t entirely accurate because the United States pays the bill for all the advanced treatments and new drugs that the UK and Canada can piggyback off of. Also just pointing out the obvious, but saying that your healthcare is “phenomenal” and “free” isn’t objective. It doesn’t matter if it’s free if it isn’t any good (you’re 4X more likely to die in a UK hospital vs US one and waiting lists for surgery and treatment are 10s or 100s of times longer than in the US) and even if you’re more satisfied with your health care plan, that doesn’t mean it’s actually better.

But then how do they keep the water going? Electricity? Sewage? How do they pay for equipment, medicine, supplies, workers, if they're not turning a profit?

@@GmmBeast you...you're kidding, right?

@@ViraIshnia No? I'm not sure what you mean.

MY recommended: thank you

GTA in real life be like...

My accurate than it is not

Totally agree! I am still pissed off at that buffoon for a number of other dramatic oversimplifications. Most of the time I wonder what the hell he and his staff is smoking. Oversimplified: Healthcare Flat out lied: 2A, Border and Capitalism vs Socialism

I need money, you need to live. How much is your life worth? Also, the candy in our drug stores are very competitively priced! ;) Seriously tho. I'm guessing that it's a combination of yes they are but at least some of them need to be. (so that we can subsidise it for some and get good PR)

Yes!! Thank you!!!

Thank you!

Exactly! Why is it not the best? Is that even true? And it doesn't have to be the best. Maybe it's second-best or third, fourth, etc.

Yunis Rajab America ranks 39th in overall health system performance according to WHO

3 words - Health Outcome Scores

Yunis Rajab depends how you define best. As someone else said it ranks 39th overall. Which is true America does not do a good job of providing equal care to everyone. HOWEVER it is a fact they have the best infrastructure, technology and doctors in the world. When doctors get paid millions, it means everyone wants to be one and only the best in the world get to. Lots of counties buy the states old equipment like MRIs and such. The US innovates more in the health sector then any other country in the world. So I do think they have the best healthcare in the world.

You might be onto something.

Rebekah Chan yes!!

I’ve found yet another mastermind

Yes, that would be awesome!! 👍🏽

Yes

What doctor? The point is we can’t afford them.

I agree, and I think Adam likes that. Yeah, ARE makes mistakes, but they cite their sources as they go to ensure that mistakes they make are found out. They're trying to educate, which is more than I can say for most shows.

lanethelame I am a fan of Adam Ruins Everything. However, I agree. Adam sometimes fails to put things in proper context or oversimplifies which distorts the picture. Dr. Mike addresses those mistakes very nicely.

From what it seems, it definitely seems like he or his writers tend to lean on pushing a narrative rather than telling the facts

same! I love Adam's videos but I'm not always sure how accurate he is lol

@@MrTrombonebandgeek For sure, you just need to look at how much of a strawman his opposition characters are to see that's the case

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P O it sounds like bee woop to me

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My current doctor fuckin sucks.

Australia, the UK, Canada, most European countries. Basically don't move to the US if you think you might get sick unless you are rich and you will probably be fine.

like it should be everywhere, I hate this video of him defending the disgusting system of US.

ElGuty I think basic healthcare should be taxpayer-funded (Like broken bones and common diseases/infections) But specialized care should only be partly funded. I had a friend who would of waited 3 years for a brain surgery in Canada. That wouldn’t and didn’t happen in the US. Thank god for dual citizenship.

Crockett DelaCruz that’s exactly how our healthcare system in Australia is. It’s free for medically necessary procedures, as long as you don’t mind waiting as they prioritise based on severity. Otherwise we can pay for private health insurance and skip the waiting period and be admitted in the private hospitals. At least this way everyone still has access, regardless of what that can afford.

Kate Burdon brain surgery seems severe and would be at the top of the list not wait 3 years for help. Imagine if u had something less severe that person might have to wait even longer. That’s not very reassuring if I live there and have something happen to me waiting years for help is not a good system. And isn’t private healthcare just to be seen fast the same as the US healthcare if u want to get taken care of in a timely manner then u need to pay for it. So the poor people wait for years while the rich can afford private healthcare. Actually sounds worse then the US.

Hahaha i hoping he will comment on that

I'll answer that for you. A lot of people don't pay their medical bills. Some debt is paid for by the charity of the hospital, some of the debt is sold to collection agencies, and some is just written off as a loss. So for the people (or insurance companies) that do pay, the price has to cover the losses for the people that don't pay. It sounds silly on alcohol swabs, but they also have to cover the doctors' and nurses wages time spent on the patients that don't pay.

@@---cr8nw so basically, while the US does have lower tax rates than the rest of the world on average they are still basically paying for the healthcare of people who couldn't afford it, so no one gets taxed for healthcare, except for the sick people.

@@juanazcona5742, that certainly seems more fair than taxing people for medical expenses based solely on income and tax bracket.

You aren't charged for individual supplies most of the time. Only certain supplies are chargeable these days. Read up on DRGs.

adam isnt smart hes a dumb lib

And she only gets a slap on the wrist and no real consequences

Yes. I was so frustrated with that episode

Keep in mind the hospital on that show is a teaching hospital, and the surgical residents are to some extent meant to make mistakes and learn from them. I suspect it was more about being a precautionary tale to the general public. To be fair about the "slap on the wrist" - if the patient didn't become ill or die due to the unnecessary tests, what punishment would you suggest?

Tony Designs Just because they didn’t die or fall ill doesn’t mean it didn’t affect them. They still have to pay for those tests.

Probably not, as hospitals have slush funds to cover situations like that rather than risk a lawsuit but: 1) Fiction. 2) Consequences 3) Scale If a fictional superhero comes in on armed robbers shooting people in a bank, he's probably justified in injuring or even killing the robbers to prevent it. If I see a child sneak a piece of candy into his pocket in WalMart, I'm not going to throw him to the ground and stand on his neck until armed police arrive - I'm going to whisper into his Mother's ear or if that doesn't work, a manager's, and let it be a teaching moment. If the administrators decided it was worth the cost of the test (which is less to the hospital than what they'd have charged the patient, per this video) in order to teach not just *that* resident but her entire class something so important, in a way they would never forget, that's (literally) their business. My Dad ran hospitals - at the end of his career he contracted out and was paid big money to turn hospitals that were losing money around. I was pre-med (before changing to botany and genetics research) so we talked a good bit about how hospitals are run (and I probably know more about that than I do medicine now lol). One of the biggest mistakes the hospitals he was hired to save was not taking into account...mistakes. They tried to operate as though everything were always going to go perfectly. He had to teach them to operate as though they were in a constant state of self-induced crisis so they'd be ready *when*, not *if* something went wrong.

Ikr, literally why I won't go to the doctor unless it's an extreme case.

Glad I'm Canadian. I can get myself checked out for free.

Carlo Atienza I believe that most countries have free checkups and doctors meetings, at least most free healthcare countries do

@@shemshem9998 And? I'm Canadian so why would I say any other country? My comment was obviously directed at Americans who have to pay for everything healthcare related. Also, there are only 43 countries in the world that offer universal healthcare.

Carlo Atienza it was an add on, to show that manny countries have free doctor checkups. That 43 countries offer universal healthcare actually Shows how manny counties do have it, there are only 31 countries are labelled as developed. That means that there are more counties with universal heath care then north and South America combined, or Europe minus one.

They can't, and unfortunately, that's why we've become a nation of medical debt and throwing whole families into an endless pit of poverty because one person got sick. I'm sorry you had to go through that and I hope other things in your life are going better now. I can absolutely relate and hopefully those who can't will read your comment with a sense of compassion.

Man, the end of like 2015 I went to an urgentcare for antibiotics to help with a URI, it didn't cost my mom or I anything. Went again in 2019 for the same problem- same place. I had to wait for two hours to be seen and to be told that I was sick (no shit), and that I had a URI (he didn't know what exactly, only that it wasn't Type-A Strep). And that I'd need antibiotics. I could've told you that. I HAVE insurance. It still cost me $200 to wait 2 hours and get 10 days worth of pills. Luckily I don't have to live paycheck to paycheck, but if someone else did? That would be insane. The bill, even for me being able to afford it was heartbreaking. While I personally live comfortably at the moment, I've never felt more like "I literally can't afford to get sick" and that's REALLY sad. It's no longer about avoiding the doctor because you're scared of doctors, you're avoiding the doctor because you're scared of bills.

It's easy for him to say that. He probably makes a very good living being a doctor.

I can't pretend as if I understand the specifics by any stretch of the imagination. But how can it be that in the most powerful nation in the world, the average person can't afford to be treated? I can't defend that. I appreciate the points that Dr Mike made but that's unacceptable as far as I'm concerned

The real question is why aren’t you getting meningitis vaccines and saving yourself butt loads of money

Yes. I don't understand why Mike took it that way.

Yep, when I looked at the statistics about 4 years ago, we were 27th in the world for Medical Quality. Canada was 28th. While also, we were TWICE the amount of cost as second place.

Yeah and also, I understand he needs to get in the mindset of an average person but assuming that people don't watch the full thing think about it, and then come out with an opinion, is pretty patronizing. It's basically saying I need to think like most people, and most people are ignorant.

@@juanazcona5742 well... because that's true? Most people are kinda ignorant.

Asian Hospital - ????

@Xeino you are in front by 1 or 2% that's not really saying European hospitals are bad

@Xeino talking about breast cancer btw

@Xeino lung and pancreatic cancer Canada as the highest survival rate for example

Xeino thats the most retarded statement ive heard in a long time

You pay for ambulance rides in america? Wha-

what happened to the bill?

@@spill3105 yes we do

We pay for the ambulance in Canada too even if we have "free" Healthcare...also if you don't pay for your ambulance this will reflect on your credit bureau as an arrears and will affect your score directly so be careful for that...

@@Ricky-drip-go-woo healthcare isn't allowed to show up on our credit here. You can thank our shitty system for the idea of "credit," though. That's something you borrowed from us and are now suffering from as a populace in this area in a way we are not.

What are their accountability episodes?

@Karan they have special segments where they poijt out mistakes they made or sources being weak and generally accepting that they are not perfect.

Thing is, they skipped a lot of parts that support their claims in this video.

LegzFallOffGirl is like them to fix their wage gap portion about the work place they oversimplified and didn’t analyze the data. Once all differences are taken account it’s around 2-5 percent in the other direction

@@Kage-jk4pj "adam ruins 'adam ruins everything'" I think that's what it called. Not sure though.

My dad is a diabetic and we live barely above or below the poverty line. He can't afford to not eat foods that could kill him.

My brother has diabetes and my mom is so afraid that one day she won't be able to get it for him. That should never be a worry. Absolutely disgusting. I've also heard about the rationing and honestly it shows how heartless the people who distribute it are.

@@Hamsterjuices and then those who have to ration are blamed for not being able to afford it

There is some good news on the subject. You can now and for the past few years even, go to any Walmary pharmacy and they sell insulin with no prescription needed. Standard size vial is about $25 and a box of 5 insulin pens is $43. And they sell fast acting, slow acting, and 70/30. Just ask at the pharmacy about their ReliOn brand insulin called Novolin.

@@JuiciestFart is that in the US or Canada?

This is why I like the EU system where hospitals are free (of course is paid in taxes but comparing with proper medical insurance in the US this is penny). Because medical care is free then the private hospital must compete by offering the best service for a reasonable price. This is the best solution to solve the problem in the US, of course, this working in my country only because the hospital can be 'country' owned or privately owned but never mix of both to not create a conflict of the interest.

@@martino6172 huh. The medical system in the us is fucked due to insurance companies and hospitals being in bed together.

@@martino6172 vittana.org/13-profound-socialized-medicine-pros-and-cons

yeah this guy didn't provide much of a critique, he said he agreed on almost every issue

A lot of people walk out of the hospital my buddy works at, and at the one where I worked, without paying anything. They pretend to not speak English, give a false address, claim to have no ss number b/c they "immigrated recently", etc and thanks to Reagan, hospitals can't turn anyone away if they aren't insured. So the hospitals charge people with insurance the difference.