Response to Adam Conover’s Tweet | Hospitals & Mammograms | Wednesday Checkup 

He shouldn't have to defend himself against such a person like Adam.

@@kraven4444 Agreed. Adam is beneath him. I should be trolling saying this, and of course not being litteral. But Yeah. Dr. Mike has proven himself very often. Adam has so much politics in his videos. With Ideas that.. yeah. I have little intellect based respect for the guy. Not to mention. He's a serious Educator or Entertainer completely by what is convenient at the moment.

yet Adam still managed to misunderstand some of Dr Mike's points. Or possibly simply lied about them to win the argument. I wouldn't have the patience not to simply point it out. Hell, even in the initial video Dr Mike was extra understanding of Adam's.

​@Balto the Wolf , yep to be honest.

He still messed up saying that the focus should not be on profits. He himself said administration fees are to high and to many accountants are staff. The only reason you have that is to make sure you are making profits! I love his channel but he sounded really dumb arguing that.

N3ptune - totally gonna look at this when do debates in college

Arrogant is Adam's maiden name.

honestly i think from both sides they dealt with it pretty well

I wouldn't say defensive but rather he tried answer critisism so that there is a broader understanding of how the cideo was made and what their point of view was. On top of that i think the way Adam anwered was pretty calm to as he wrote multiple tweets explaining. Lastly it may seem arrogant but thats is mostlikely because it was based on dr. mike's video ,which only gave limited explainaitions (due to it's length and way of editing) on some comments.

Adam acts like a smug little bitch.

He kinda did, he didn’t specifically specify this but he did do an Adam ruins himself were he did acknowledge that he makes mistakes and that he is biased

@@darksungate He makes a ton more mistakes then he addresses, like Christopher Columbus.

@@Gamerad360 what was the mistake?

@@mihailmilev9909 ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-ZEw8c6TmzGg.html&vl=en If you have time I would watch this video. It does a pretty good job digging into some of Adam's mistakes and the mistakes of others who have talked about Christopher Columbus before.

Tbh Doctors do need to be a little chill

👏 Say it louder for those in the back! 👏 My bias as part of two Native American tribes does not invalidate or make me wrong when I speak about some of the atrocities that have been inflicted upon native peoples, such as their children being taken from them and being sent to "re-education" facilities to make them be Christian and conform to white man's way of life, including being punished for using their native languages. Yeah I'm biased. It didn't NOT happen just because I pointed it out and I'm biased! Not that I typically preach about it or anything, but that's just an example of your point. 🤗

True, pointing out a bias doesn't invalidate a claim. However, having a particular bias, be it political or professional, can skew people's views on the facts of an issue.

@@sborrink But it can't skew the facts, that's the point. And if someone is wrong, you have to show WHY they're wrong, not why they believe it. Maybe I believe the sky is blue because aliens inject blue gel into skypockets from their invisible space pods every 4 weeks. Does that make me crazy? Maybe. But it doesn't tell me whether or not the sky is blue. This is called the Genetic Fallacy.

I love this! This is such a great response and I'm kind of mad that in my 20 years of life I've never heard it before

Bias is brought up usually for conflict of interest reasons. There is Bias, but there's no conflict of interest where the Doctor is concerned.

Patronizingly?

@@soratruekid It's a fine line between "educating" and "patronizing". Here? I think he fell right on the line, unfortunately.

Sar'ras Fae'lynn I would disagree? As a medical professional I’d say he has an established right(?) to his tone when speaking to a layperson I think he spoke with authority without being condescending. Furthermore, he invited and applauded reasonable public discussion 9/10 response imo Edit: when I say “established right to his tone”: He has both the medical knowledge as well as real world experience to inform his points (though admittedly less so on the topic of cost)

to call this beef may be an over statement. There isn't much disagreement to be had here.

@@soratruekid How was he patronizing? I didn't pick up on that at all.

I took it as not getting too many done (such as getting it every year when you only need one every three years). Self exams and regular breast exams are fine for in between mammograms. For me, the part I’m not looking forward to is the pain as I’m bigger on top.

I am a 31 year old man who has had 2 mammograms because I have a weird lump on my Moob, and my dr. Wants to keep an eye on it. The mammogram itself is pretty easy, no pain or anything, a machine just squeezes your boob/moob for a minute, then they may do an ultrasound. Idk if thats what you are afraid of, but the procedure itself is pretty tame.

Mammograms have come a long way, they sqish the Girls, but not so much that it hurts. Not unless your girls are super tender (which is a thing for many) apparently not for me cause on a pain scale of 1-10, 10 being omg wth, I was at a .0001 on discomfort. It was like laying on my stomach level of annoyance. Then again, my girls aren't big or heavily padded....any more...sooo maybe that's another reason why they're done later in life? Less padding=less pain=easier to find anything potentially wrong? Maybe? As someone's that's had it done I was scared too and afterwards I was like.... ummm that's it? Huh..... it's anti climactic to say the least. HUGZ

Honestly I get a mammogram every year because my mother died young from breast cancer (beat once but returned a few years later, metastasized to her brain and bones. Since I turned 34 I started getting screened yearly. Even being on the smaller size it is not painful, just mildly uncomfortable on the arm having I raised and laying on the machine, that's all. I was terrified at first but it's really not bad. As scared as I am of hospitals I still go yearly. It's worth it.

@@Raevynwing my mom beat breast cancer when I was young, then it came back metastases to her lung. Ishe died when I was 26. I'm 31 now like I said, and I check myself at least once a month. If something like cancer runs through your family like water down a stream, GET CHECKED AT LEAST YEARLY. When it came back for my mom, she spent 2 years telling herself the shortness of breath was just because she was getting older, til she collapsed at work. Take care of yourselves.

Cor VD It’s really just a strawman of mike’s actual position and just straight up intellectually dishonest. Bad Adam.

If you look into Adam a little bit, you’ll find that this kind of behavior is extremely common for him. Made me stop watching his content.

The Bygone King same. I’m always baffled by unearned arrogance, not that I think anyone should be arrogant, but given his humble beginnings at collegehumor, it’s a bit odd for someone like Adam to think so highly of himself

Anytime someone makes legitimate criticisms of a video of his, which there are many, he gets butthurt and name drops people. He uses facts in a way to shape his narrative and advance it when he should be presenting facts and context to the relevant facts to provide non-biased info.

adam is like my mother

criticism today is mostly taking place against other people's opinion. Medicine is an objective science so it is easier to defend. Most people today get lost in figuring out what is fact and opinion.

Adam Conover's show is biased. His writers give him a narrative to push. You can find many channels that break down the points in the show, revealing the bias. Or go watch Joe Rogan's show with Adam.

thisssss

@@Brennan.P objective might go a little too far. many objective truths in medicine are just thousands of people quoting the same text that no one bothered to check in a century. a lot in medicine is just peddled by big pharma too. and they make decisions based on money. and its cheaper to just add like one useless molecule to the same old painkiller with the same old sideeffects to keep a fresh patent, than exploring actual new painkillers.

@@nathanbueche8429 of course, everything is biased. yet they still give you all the sources to check for yourself, unlike so many others, they don't just pull stuff out of their ass.

Technically chest compressions can solve your physical problems which in turn can solve your other problems so yeah

@@anushiyavijayan4463 hehe.........yeah

If that doesn’t get put on a shirt it’ll be a missed opportunity.

I died😂😂 ( I need chest compressions)

if anyone wants to do chest compressions on my student loans that'd be great

Lol

😂 😂 😂

😆

Specially when your show is all about criticising others lmao

Never knew that was an option. “You killed my dog, you murderer!” “I reject your criticism.”

Yes, yep. You are right.

Yeah this guy obviously misunderstood Adams entire video.

@@BreakingDnD It's obvious that you're an idiot.

@@Cthulhoop i hope you're joking...

Cthulhoop it’s obvious he was joking

He actually increased my respect for doctors 100 times over tbh

Rachel Rachel Yeah he does wonders for the public image of healthcare. When you’re in hospitals it feels like you’re in a system and its hard to find doctors like Mike!

If you like Dr. Mike you should check out zdogg MD! They did a collab. Zdogg goes a little more in depth but he covers SO MUCH of what healthcare workers actually do and deal with.

He's a genuine role model for anyone aspiring to be a decent human being, too.

You kinda look like him lol

Conover can't hear those words. All he hears is "disagree" and gets triggered and defensive.

omg he said it right when I read this

Caroline Dodge MEEE TOOO

I think what you need to do is go in knowing 'It's a comedy show'. The bit in the middle has a bit of exaggerating. you really only need the beginning where he has the point and the end where he goes more in depth about it. And with that it's Mammograms aren't as good as you think. You should only use them if you have a lump you're worried about. Or when you get into your 40's and the risks are higher. The middle has a lot of facts, but nothing that's really required to know, and is mostly the entertainment part to make sure people watch and help them to remember the show.

@@kharnthebetrayer8251 right but what mike said is correct, if someone is already afraid of the idea of a certain procedure, and then you go on a 5 minute rant about how bad they are and everything that went wrong, they arent going to pay attention to the 30 seconds of good you say at the very end. and even if its a comedy show, presenting information out of context, even though it may be factual, can cause misleading ideas. I will use myself as an example, growing up I loved to watch history channel, and one of the episodes i watched was about Ireland, and it had to do with the IRA. At the time, due to the way the information had been provided in the episode, I though the IRA were just freedom fighters for Ireland to escape British control. They are war profiteering terrorists... nothing more. Not giving full context cant greatly change the perspective of the information.

Same, and I was 41. There are so many of us alive today because of mammograms. Yes, it's uncomfortable but cancer is worse.

My mom was 39, beat it once but it returned, metastasized in her brain and bones.. Died 5 years after her second diagnosis at 47. I have been getting mammograms yearly since I turned 34

ADAM NEVER SAID TO NEVER TAKE A MAMMOGRAM.

@@Remix2366 exactly

Dear lord, that's only a fix if you're a total drama queen. Which to be fair, apparently 90% of people who write headlines and RU-vid video titles now are.

@@DissociatedWomenIncorporated ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-QZIR-eZdvGk.html

@@DissociatedWomenIncorporated no offense, I feel like we agree. I was making a joke about clickbait titles, that's it.

I am so glad he does not use titles like that because when I see titles like that then I call the person who make that title a a£$%h$%e. Realises now was a joke but my point stands of what I feel about those titles

Eh, his position is still shifty. Saying that hospital prices aren't the problem, and then saying that hospitals employ too much unneeded staff, makes little sense. Because those prices are spent enriching unneeded staff! He merely provides an explanation to Adam's point, not contradicting him in any way. And saying that hospital prices aren't the main problem while his own examples of supposedly larger problems merely create those inflated hospital prices, is either disingenuous, or simply argument for argument's sake.

This comment deserves more upvotes

Exactly

Adam many times has shown his political views threw his episodes. The way he sees hospitals and the people you chose to feature matter. All I am saying is one of the 2 is biased is Adam.

Wanna do my language hw?

@@senjy3097 nothing political about the fact that people are dying because of greed in the health care industry

I’m a Brit and feel same as you. Really weirds me out and sounds scary af

It's so expensive to get healthcare jn the US. I'm canadian too and I met expats in different countries who are working their butt off outside the US to pay for medical fees whether it's for them or for their relatives. One teacher I met has been working in Saudi for 7 years to pay off thousands of dollars worth of healthcare for her brother who's in a wheelchair in the U.S.

You’re lucky my friend

As an American, I envy you. Though the hospital being a business hasn’t effected me much yet, as I’m still a kid, it has effected my Grandma and Aunt. I’m gonna keep a long story short and say due to various medical bills, they’re now trying to live off of social security and disability benefits respectively.

As an American living with a hospital system that is business focused I can tell you that it is in fact terrifying and many of us avoid going to the hospital when we need it because of how bad the experience usually is(mostly on the “business” side)

@@Obi-WanKannabis THIS. He noticed, but it doesn't matter because taking issue with another person's tone isn't really what Dr. Mike is about. It's exactly what you said.

@@Obi-WanKannabis Yeah, 100% this. Besides, Mike's a doctor; compared to some of the stuff that doctors go through on a daily basis, a bit of Twitter snark is honestly small time. Doctors have thick skins. The good doctors will maintain their sense of decorum, and the doctors who can't take it don't remain doctors for long.

@@DarthDionius Do you mean Mike's a doctor?

@@coffeejelly1116 I do, thank you. Edited that now.

@@DarthDionius np just trying to help 😁

You said everything here better than I could. So, YES. It really just shows that people can still engage thoughtfully and intelligently in a debate/conversation without drama. It's refreshing.

It makes so clear that people/ creators can be just in it for the fame and money, because that was their motivation for starting content creation. While others set out to start creation purely to help regardless of if it will get them famous or not. I like, no I love not even that I am starting to crave Dr. Ms pure way of doing things. I am simply fed up with this defensive posture towards facts. One example is vaccines. We should focus more on teaching children that it is okay to be wrong as long as you are willing to listen to factual critique. Instead of letting this age of social media dilute their understanding of what an argument is. Your argument is not more valid because you have twenty million followers. Unless that is what you are arguing about, how it is to have so many followers. I just wish Adams response tweet was less aggressive in tone, and used less words on defending themselves and more words on looking at the critique. One thing I do think we need to touch on is how he might have come across Dr Ms initial video. Thousands of people could have started some sort of overdramatic shitstorm that forced Adam to watch the video in a negative light. Then afterwards commenting on it to defend the show from those thousands of people creating a mob. In my opinion and experience that is how can be with many of these types of responses on the internet. So I am sincerely happy, that it was handled in this calm collected way in this video.

i felt shade there for some recent youtuber. ⛱⛱⛱⛱🍵🍵🍵🍵

Dr. Mike did his honest best. That’s all I could hope for.

it's weird i feel the opposite. I feel that Dr Mike is defensive and that his issue with the "focus" is irrational. Isn't it Dr Mike's approach that risks to do more damage than good on a political level ?

@@robertamagdalena8224 wait what do you mean by that? Can you explain ? In what way does it do more damage than good?

@@robertamagdalena8224 I got to say your reply makes no sense at all. I'm not trying to be rude I'm trying to understand.

@@AliceI7764 the damage is legitimization Mike's speech presents as not that big a deal the fact that people have to depend on charity to get treatment

Wow Mike hearted a comment on a year old video :) Kudos to you man!

@@MegaAgamon Yeah i was searching thru the comments to see if he responded back.

@@orionx79 I've been looking as well, was there any response?

He didnt :/. People usually pull the plug if it gets heated. İ dont think adam cares about wellfare of american citizens.

@@mertarican5456 Probably just realized that criticizing the counter criticism to his criticism would've been ridiculous and really bad for his image and apologizing would make it seem like he was wrong so it would probably be best to leave the conversation there.

@Inebriatd I agree with you however the term adulting is a part of my life as well and I must say that sometimes it genuinely applies. For example. When someone gets called out by a guy who misinforms people for a living by only giving half truths and the guy getting called out handles it in a meaningful way rather than ignoring or acting salty over it.

@Inebriatd How can you turn a sentence so short into something political? I think you need lessons in adulting man...

Ruthie... respectfully and sincerely, fuck you :)

@@jessedelaney920 I was scrolling through the comments and yours stood out, I'm curious: why did you reply so aggressively?

@@meggylouwho he was joking

Because if he didn’t misinterpret them, then he wouldn’t be able to claim dr mike is wrong. That’s why people construct strawmen

Adam is a complete nob.

@@jwill7998 I think it's more he's a manipulative person who can't admit his mistakes

@@that_one_person5805 Yes, he's manipulative and very intellectually dishonest (and a nob).

I don't know if it was personal, but Adam did seem defensive. I don't think he was trying to be mean in his comment, but I think he may have taken the criticism personally. They work hard on the show with the constant fact-checking, even more so with this episode, so to hear criticisms might have upset him. The fact is, they both stated facts and thier opinions and no one is wrong. Adam seemed to take it a little personal, but Dr. Mike welcomes the criticism and owned up to what Adam mentioned, all while being respectful and didn't come off as rude. I like both Adam and Dr. Mike, and I don't think either of them mean any harm, or would ever intentionally try to misinform people with their show/channel. They just had a difference of opinion, regarding stated facts, that they both agree on.

I agree. Definitely a turn off for mammograms and I'd like to think of myself as someone who weighs up both sides

Jennifer Marshall *weighs

@@commentcopbadge6665 haha yeah noticed the minute I revisited the comment . My bad

Inebriatd awww you’re trying so hard to pick a political fight 😂 it’s almost cute

@Inebriatd wth was that word salad? What does any of that have to do with the discussion being had here? I'm so confused lol

I respect so much people who do this

I would not be able to handle it in this way, a great inspiration

Wait until you see his reply to Dr Hope, shows his real attitude towards criticism. Still enjoy his videos but don't respect him after that old 'beef'

You pretty much can do that though. You may need to update your resume and take care of stuff like that, but the choice does exist! 😅😅

1st reply

All adults are unfortunately guilty of that. We put feelings before facts.

It is amazing how much the skill of honorable discourse has been set aside. Society is basing many serious things on emotion and unsupported opinion, not reliable facts or defendable evidence. So, I resonate with your comment :)

Gigantic Director Official in a fun fact video about Dr. Mike he said that one of his best skills is explaining complicated topics in a clear and simple way! He isn’t wrong

Sometimes technically correct isn't the best kind of correct. If you'll pardon the Futurama reference.

Fear-mongering Know-it-all is so spot on. Wasn't he employed by Cracked? Very representative of that website.

Pretty sure him being an arrogant know it all is played as a joke in every episode.

@@Zumoari College Humor but we know nothing is funny on that site. ​

​@@lindenrose8626 Saying "he is just playing a character" is not an excuse to shoddiness.

I wasn't frightened of mammograms from Adam's show (it actually made me feel like I needed one), but I was frightened of mammograms from talking to doctors and family members that HAD gotten them.

Same. I was already scared of them, and watching the video I felt more comfortable with the idea of putting it off a lot longer than I should. And I'm not "an average person" mind you, my career is in healthcare yet I still ate up the words in the video because it's what I wanted to hear.

@@painoftheheart12 You weren't really listening to the reasons most people are frightened by getting mammograms. One of the main reasons is that they can be painful, even with the ultrasound version for those that are younger. I have a high risk of breast cancer in my family but because of everything I always heard of them being painful and the like I tried putting it off as long as I could. That isn't good. It made me ignore signs I honestly shouldn't have with my family history. Thankfully it turned out to be a benign cyst in the end but I should not have waited so long.

HaHa.

Lolll

Lmao

I need to get a mammogram, At or before 35 The Brest surgeon insisted after my lumpectomy at 27 Am 33 already. Watched a Mayim Bialik video on it, she kept saying it’s expensive. So now concerned about the cost too. Facebook NadiaWriterSiddiqi

His tweet was super snippy

What was his tweet i dont has da twitter

Let's go!

doesn't really look like beef but rather professionally, well written responses on both sides

I feel like Adam tried to cover his ass for something he really didn't need to

@@Kougeru lol you didn't see how Adam twisted what Mike said? Adam is a really shadey dude

soft cream yeah I’m with you. Adam really seemed to try and make Mike sound like “one of them” and that mike was almost trying to “silence” him. Really rubbed me the wrong way.

True. When I saw Dr. Mike's previous vid, it showed some issues with Adam that I didn't notice before. But I figured they were honest mistakes. ...But seeing some of Adam's Tweets, I'm extremely disappointed with his responses. It sounds very much to me that he just can't take any criticism. I think that Adam is more concerned about his views than he is about portraying the truth of the matter.

I'll be the devils advocate here. Dr. Mike is biased. He's a doctor. So of course he is biased.

@@peacelovecigarettes yes, of course. "he's biased!" "no, you're biased!" Fortunately, there's much more important than just saying the other side is biased. Great "devil's advocate".

@@9393jack dude. Literally a doctor is going to be biased on issues pertaining to his profession.

@@9393jack hes gonna make his side sound good. Just like the other side will do. You have to take everything with a grain of salt.

Yeah Adam just really pissed me off and overreacted.

Well if he’s acting defensive that usually means that he knows he’s wrong and is trying to not only convince everyone else is right he’s trying to convince himself

Watson Holmes no Adam is right

Here's the thing, Adam is a bit arrogant. What has happened with this topics of hospitals should give you pause and make you consider that perhaps Adam is not accurate on other topics he's covered as well and you just didn't know because there wasn't an expert like Dr.Mike to point out Adam was wrong. Think about it.

Watson Holmes what adam said is true he does the negative of stuff then does positive of it and he cut that all out to make adam look bad

I don't think it was necessarily an insult. I believe it was more of not commonly talking to people who can discuss things logically and only solve issues by proving points without stating opinions and comparing instead. In other words Adam usually speaks with those who have no idea how to calmly discuss a point.

@@keegansmetanko3755 Adam is one of those people

He wasn't insulting mike,he was asked to criticize Mike's video, he did I a respectful way.

Adam's show is a business whose product is criticism. If that product is in question, then he stands to lose consumers.

@@keegansmetanko3755 False. I would argue that Adam was the one shutting down the conversation. Assuming others won't participate in the conversation, and being harsh with the mindset that it won't go anywhere makes YOU part of the problem. Adam can easily sit there (with his much bigger viewer base) and trash Mike. If he was speakin in good faith, he wouldn't paint with such broad strokes to discredit him, and instead work from common ground.

Being a dead man, i don't

haha I'm going to run on that =]

Someone needs to make a T-shirt of that and send it to him

Well... In that case, you, sir, are fully qualified to practice medicine! Haha

I too have a pulse :D

Bias

Because hes a personality.

Well, it's not truly him doing all of the critiquing. He likely has a few researchers that he turns to for the information and then present that information. Not to say he isn't involved in the research process, but he likely is not as involved as that team.

Matthew Smith wait till you hear him on joe rogans podcast

The episode is on the older side, and tbh I can imagine that Adam's moved on mentally from that episode and just skimmed the initial reaction video. I'm glad that this has remained civil, though

They also snipe all the biller / coders right out of school before hospitals can get them, meaning that most of these younger biller / coders learn bad habits from the insurance company and learn to try and get everything denied. Also, as a retired biller / coder, can you not call them bean counters? The job is actually quite difficult and often ignored by both patients and doctors.

@@Rayneuki Fair point but still, the strange arms race is largely responsible for the problem. The insurance industry teaches its agents a lot of bad habits and bad practices.

I would also add btw that if these jobs didn't exist, medical care would be a lot less expensive even if you had to pay your own way. I've traveled abroad quite a lot and in countries which denied me coverage for medical stuff while I was staying there and said I had to pay all the costs the costs were really cheap. I mean laughably cheap. I mean going in for stomach pains and being diagnosed with ulcers and given non generic prescription medication and paying about 100 bucks for the entire thing, including doctor visit and medicine. The Biller Coders are the problem if you ask me. But they only really exist because insurance companies don't want to pay. So... My industry creates yours and yours makes things expensive but only because mine is full of money grubby selfish people. Fair enough?

I agree I worked in billing for a while and the insurances were always so frustrating.

@@concanthandleme The ironic thing is I would argue that all this fighting over the bill that insurance companies do is also probably costing them a lot more money than if they actually just PAID THE BLOODY BILL. My own company has a life insurance company that it owns. They saved a lot of money and hassle because they don't have what we'll just call a war clause. If somebody dies because of the conflict between two sovereign nations then many insurance companies have a clause where they don't have to pay a death claim. The companies that decided that on 9-11 they weren't paying probably spent untold amounts of money fighting those claims and in the long run it probably lost them more money than if they had just paid the death claims. My own company had lower losses than the industry at large because they simply never added this language to their contacts. It's currently a selling point but likely the reason it's not there is because when they were writing them up originally they simply forgot they could add them. I'm a realist and I don't fool myself into thinking that my company is just morally better than everybody else. So they just paid them and didn't get mired down in court costs and so forth fighting families over death claims that most had to pay out eventually anyway and thus they saved a lot of money that then went back into shoring up reserves for paying death claims. This kind of short sighted cost saving activity is really dumb because it all ends up costing everybody more money in the long run. The insurance companies denying claims because somebody didn't cross a t and instead of the doctor amputating the foot they ampulated the foot which isn't covered in the language of the contract. Is just silly and stupid and means we're all paying for life saving services which are for the public good. OK so this is a silly example but all the fighting over medical treatment is silly too.

I toatally agree with you there.

I wouldn't call the critique response on Adam's end "healthy." It had serious undertones of cockiness, and Adam flat out rejects criticism? Rejecting criticism means you don't believe you were wrong, which leads to the conclusion that Adam was telling Dr. Mike to buzz off for challenging his 'superior' knowledge on the subject. I wholeheartedly respect Dr. Mike, but Adam, especially through his show, has proven to me that his singular focus in his "Ruins Everything" series is to inject his political viewpoints into all controversial topics, attempting to sway public opinion. I apologize for the long winded comment, but Adam is known to be one who tries to push political agendas, so I have no trust with his evident biases.

Which one and if you do not want to to talk about it is fine.

@@wyattwilliams2457 I assume it might be the hospital one

Praz55 really cool how Dr. Mike looks back and likes comments he probably found funny!

Blender

That is about all I can trust him with...

That's so true!

This is the way.

Adam gets like that whenever he's criticized

@@jmsolano0516 Because he knows hes very often wrong lol

I was thinking the same thing! His response just felt like he watched Dr. Mike’s video to respond and not to understand. 🤷🏾‍♀️

Pixie basically if ur doing an essay for school Edit: also comprehensive tests

So my reasoning is dangerous sometimes

@@itssssstef over reasoning, there is a thing called being "over rational" y'know.

I didn't find it painful either, slight discomfort but I've felt far worse in my life. As I commented though those machines are NOT made for short people though lol, it was more painful on my calves having to stand on my tiptoes through the entire process lmfao!

@@malindastevens1016 When I had mine done last year, the technician lowered the machine to my height because I said it was uncomfortable where it was, so they can be adjusted some. I'm 5'6", though. If they adjusted it and you were still too short, then they should have gotten a step stool for you to stand on, in the least. I couldn't have done it if I'd had to stand on my tiptoes! My back is too messed up for that. Lol

@@xzonia1 I'm only 4'10" lol and yea I have a bad back as well and sadly they didn't get me a stool. The lady adjusted the machine down as far as she could but it wouldn't go down quite far enough

I'm happy everything's ok

@@hannap8052 Yea everything came out alright, it was mainly a just to be safe thing because of a swollen lymph node, though I'm very near the age for regular screenings (will be 40 this August)

Not really it was disgusting that Adam used those blatant strawmen in the early tweets

@@asnalem4391Nah man I'm praising Dr. Mike on his conduct, not Adam on his.

Intelligent debates are difficult to come by, usually because people have a Them vs. Us attitude. If there is one thing I have learned over the years, it is that text doesn't give tone of voice. You can type something one way and have it easily misconstrued as "mean", "overcritical" or "rude" without ever meaning for it to sound that way. Tone of voice, inflection and facial expression can't be shown in text alone. So people will read something from someone with their own viewpoint in mind and be unable to see how the person typing may have meant something different. I see a lot of people stating that Adam was being vicious.......but reading the tweets myself, I only see someone who is trying to explain issues from the perspective he was given by another expert in their field.

@@dawnmidnightsun2521 But seriously man how is boiling down most of Dr. Mike's points on the profit part to "He says we are too mean on hospitals and thinks they are above criticism" not disingenuous as hell?...

Haha I am so not a fan of beef! But this was a healthy convo about helping everyone! We are all on the same team.

This was a sophisticated beef

@@svpremefrank8503 😂😂😂 Haha yes, grown folk beef!

This was pork

@@DoctorMike This was filet mignon!!

Leading by example and continually improving myself...we all can do better!

It would have to be 2028... Gotta be 35 to run for president, and Dr. Mike was born in 1989.

He'd have my vote.

Well sadly it’ll never happen...he wasn’t born in the U.S., so without a constitutional amendment, he can’t be elected president

@@ElephantsRock943 Charisma and wholesomeness are both nice to have, but are also not great reasons to pick someone for president. It should be based primarily on policy, not based on whether or not you personally like the person.

@@ShadeSlayer1911 True, though if they have good morals, that would probably ultimately lead to better outcomes. Though true, policies should probably be priority number one when voting for a candidate.

This. So much this. Everything and this. He sounded so offended that a doctor disagreed with his video because ‘they did so much fact checking!!!!’ when he never really disagreed. Mike just thought that the information coulda been explained better/differently. Fact check and review it all you want but delivery is what actually matters.

Bluebird Grayson I don’t think Adams reply was particularly snarky, I also felt that (when I watched doctor mikes reaction) he felt fairly defensive, which is understandable. I also think that simply taking a section out of a segment can make anything look like “normal viewers will misunderstand” and I’m sure you can do the same with Mikes videos. In the hospital video it does clarify straight after the segment about those tests to start them at 40 so the insistence from Doctor Mike sounds strange. As well as this, doctor mike is reacting to those tweets in a video format, while Adams are written. As such it’s a lot easier to misunderstand Adams tone compared to Mikes because we can see mikes reactions as he’s replying. I’d like to clarify that I’m a big Doctor Mike fan and Adam Ruins Everything Fan and love this interation, I just also think it’s a little too hasty to assume Mike is chill and Adam isn’t because of formatting

HeroRodrigues Adam isn’t chill though... have you seen him outside of his show? I truly hate this phrase, but if it were to apply to anyone it would be Adam - he’s the definition of a beta male. Ugh... the cringe... anyways... Adam is pretty much a know it all asshole who isn’t interested in debate or conversation. He utilizes anecdotes when it suits him and dismisses objective data if that information goes against his belief. I enjoy the premise of Adam ruins everything and I think there are some great episodes. However... I think a lot of the episodes are ideologically driven instead of simply fact focused. I find Dr. Mike to have a kinda irritating personality which makes his videos hard to watch for me. But I think he overall does a good job in presenting his opinions and is fair to others.

@@Tigatron1448 Honestly when you look at videos of him trying to explain his point of view on the spot he just makes him look like a dunce "WELL I BELIEVE THIS BECAUSE!" "because....?" "uhhh....w-well because.... because- could you elaborate?" 500% beta male and everything else you said. If i could make his a top comment I would.

"Beta males" are not a thing.

I feel like a not insignificant reasons for this back and forth is that Adam seemed more interested in critiquing for profit hospitals generally (which is valid, even if it could have been clearly/more articulate on that) whereas Mike dealt with the reality that we have.

Jordy Diaz I’m sure there are people who don’t differentiate and thus blame the staff. I have found that most people are really bad at actually placing the blame correctly (like if their food comes out wrong at a restaurant and they blame the waiter). I think it’s largely because they seldom SEE the person/people who should be blamed and want to have a face to put with the blame. None of it is right and they definitely shouldn’t blame the staff, but I don’t doubt there are those who do.

Woo, well now I know.

True king other guy is lost

It burns you that Mike (just some doctor, and one with, let's face it, not extensive experience) isn't absolutely above criticism? Wow. Your world terrifies me.

@@theconvert1208 no it terrifies me how a man who studied medicide for years cant even be given the slightest bit of respect by being Called a doctor. i guess in your world effort means nothing, well iguess that would mean you're nothing cause i dont respect you at all.

TheConvert oh shut up why are you here if you’re a hater.

As Dr.Mike has explained in this video it is a good thing. He stresses that clarity is very important in these kind of conversations and if people don't understand or simply misunderstood some of his points and need further clarification he is happy to provide it.

If Dr. Mike was ugly would it still bum you out that he felt the need to explain himself?

Yea, I'm genuinely impressed by how well this was handled. I don't think even a PR rep would've come up with something this classy.

I do think that the first video was not very clear and this second one gives a much better explanation on his points and this is why adams response shows a lack of understanding of mikes points if adam sees this video wich which in my opinion is much better at showing mikes views then I'm sure his response would be much better and more amicable and if im wrong then it shows that adam is focusing to much on defending himself and not enough on the healthy criticism mike is giving

Well Adam does know everything 😂

I think (or want to think, because I want to like Adam), that this is a case so fittingly described by John Scalzi as: "The failure mode of clever is “asshole." i.e. Adam tried to be funny and jokingly dismissive, but ended up being dismissive and arrogant. (At least that's how it seems to me. As we all know, everyone's impressions are different.)

Considering Adam likes to manipulate statistics, studies, and numbers to support his view, I am not at all surprised.

This ^

A person doesn't have to be an expert on a topic in order to be knowledgeable and present a decent argument. However, Adam absolutely should have deferred to Dr. Mike's expertise and used the initial critique as an opportunity to reflect and readjust his own argument. His tweets reek of drama rather than intellectual discussion. Can you imagine how much more productive the conversation could have been if Adam continued the dialogue on rising health care costs?

Adam is a beta Male

To be fair, Conover does have a strong, logical foundation, because his video was reviewed by an experienced physician and cancer researcher.

Adam is long known for taking a hardline left wing stance, citing only sources that agree with him and ignoring all other evidence

He did sound butt hurt as hell

He always is when someone smarter than him debates him and debunks his arguments.

He's still sore from Joe rogan verbally spanking him.

Tends to happen, when one is butt hurt.

His ego was definitely bruised! He missed a great opportunity for growth & learning something new

Alli Way Adam's video made it seem like all mammograms were useless

If you make a major decision like choosing to skip routine medical screenings based off of a skit show from a guy who never set foot in med school you’ve got some major problems. That’s honestly pathetic.

@@theforeverfalling To be fair, Adam did have a certified medical professional, so that added credibility to his argument. So, I wouldn't blame anyone for taking what Adam said as fact

That's the problem with sensationalist entertainment shows that sells itself as based on facts... Hence I'd rather listen to an actual doctor and ask my questions. If I'm unsure, I get a second opinion or read the scientific literatures directly themselves instead of reading another sensationalist "journalist-wanna be's" take on it.

@@theforeverfalling if you make people feel pathetic for making a mistake in judgement you're pathetic. 🤷‍♂️

Defensive? You’re kidding right?

Jason Biggs a lot of comments here seem to call Adam's reply defensive and arrogant. I don't really get it either 🤷‍♀️

@@roger7934 yeah that’s what happens when you fan boy/girl

@@KalEL224 You are but just another fan boy/girl from the other side, we are not that different. This is our community, it is only natural for us to be defending it. In the other hand you come in here making aggressive gestures, not sharing you point of views so unless you start sharing You will be labeled as a intruder and a moron

@@KalEL224 From my stand point, I found Adam's reply defensive and arrogant for he mistook multiple points from Dr. Mike 1. Dr. Mike criticizing the tone, when he actually criticized the focus, which he stated exactly with 'the focus' in the last video 2. Dr. Mike claimed that hospital is not looking for a profit, when he didn't say any of that at all, he agreed For someone making a public statement as professional and as experienced as Adam, such mistake is unacceptable and will be taken as intentionally misrepresenting Hence why I found Adam's reply defensive and arrogant

You mean mike

@@clarak468 Mike is actually responding well. Adam was responding to points Mike didn't make.

Adam didn't act like he shouldn't be criticized. He was clarifying his point of view.

Well, one doesn't have to accept every criticism just because one thinks that no one is above criticism. Some criticism is simply not justified (not referring to Dr. Mike's criticism here) so you're not obliged to accept it.

@@cherusiderea1330 Well, I guess it's a matter of wording. You can disagree with some criticism, of course. 'Rejecting' criticism rather implies that you don't even accept it's existence in the first place. Which is pretty much the same as thinking to be 'above criticism'. So I think Adam just worded this quite badly.

In the tweet that Dr. Mike included Adam said it was requested by his viewers and like Dr. Mike said it a healthy debate which educates the public.

@@jasminepardo3036 it was a hissy fit

@@samanthagalarza3421 I agree, When I read the part "I reject Dr Mike's Critque", My mouth dropped and was turned off completely by Adam's points. It reminded me of a spoiled brat who likes to keep their head in the sand about topics, never learning, but always right.

Girl, you know you doing the same thing right? You are throwing a small tantrum over good points that Adam had even though some were a little off putting tone-wise, so you need to calm down hun

Honestly that's why he's probably such a good doctor. Adam tried to tell him "you're wrong" basically and WITHOUT going "well I'm a doctor so I would know" Mike defended his points very clearly and logically. He is a doctor though so he would know haha anyone can do Adams job of looking up statistics and making them look sleek with a good video editor.

He also thinks you are an idiot lol. Congrats!