@@Cheesecake_lover360 When I first saw the movie as a kid I thought the ghost was pantsing him. It wasn't until years later I realized what was really going on.
Janine's dialogue with Peck would've gone something like this if they had her old personality & design- Janine: **to Peck with anger** You again!? I thought we were rid you, Peck! Peck: Same what I said about your co-workers. Now, have you seen a slimeball around here? Janine: The only slimeball I see is right in front of me! Peck: **sarcastically** Oh, such burn there, missy.**back to being serious** Now where is that ugly ball of biohazard (Slimer)!?!? Janine: Listen, bub! You were the one who unleashed the ghosts that almost destroyed the city, blow up half the fire house, sent the guys to jail, and nearly cost me my job! So better you get out of here before I call the cops!😠
@@masterfarr8265 Vankman: **when all four Ghostbusters come to the front desk** I thought I'd never see that mug again. What "environmental hazard" did we commit now, Wally? Peck: The name is "Walter"! And I'm not here for that type of complaint **in his throat** though your car could use a more organic fuel. I'm working for the B.U.F.O! Egan: B.U.F.O? Vankman: **sarcastically** Any relation to the likes of the F.O.B.B? 😏 (Full of Beans Buearu) Peck: I have recently spotted an unidentified flying....whatever it is. And I know you have something to do with this! Winston: Uh yeah, they're called "ghosts." It's what we exterminate.🙄 Ray: We can assure you, Mr. Peck, that we absolutely haven't done a thing that'll harm the environment. Egan: Nor will ghosts ruin the ecosystem. Upset it maybe, but not ruin it. Peck: **about to leave** Just don't let me catch you with another slimy abomination. Vankman: **commenting about Peck being a slime ball** Then just leave already. Peck: 😠
To be fair, in Ghostbusters 2, Egon apparently sang to a sample of mood slime and possibly took it with him to bed so showering with Slimer isn't too out there for me personally. It's still pretty stupid though.
I've watched this review several times, but I only just realized something: Janine went with them -- why? She's not suited up, and she doesn't have any clout or experience with the company they're raiding. ... Oh, wait, OBVIOUSLY she needed to be there to point out the obvious and then cry some more. Never mind.
A Cyclotron is actually what the Ghostbusters Proton-Paks are based on. It accelerates protons to near the speed of light then colliding them together then scientist study what is created from the collision of particles. What Peck was thinking was they were just gonna atomize slimer by placing him in the cyclotron
*Holy shit,* I have an amazing idea for a bunch of Ghostbusters episodes! First, Walter Peck kills himself since his life is ruined and becomes a _revenge ghost,_ making him the Nemesis to the Ghostbusters. There's a ton of potential in this idea. I think it's obvious Peck would team up with other ghosts. And of course, Peck always has a back-up plan and escapes. I could even imagine an episode where Peck gets caught on purpose so he could dismantle the ghost-containment device from the inside.
They probably couldn't do suicide since it's a kids' show but maybe it could be an accident. Possibly even caused by the Ghostbusters. That would be interesting.
The immediate and jarring erasure of Janine's personality just hurts so much to watch again. Also, I'm sure Coulier is a nice guy and all...but he's just not funny, nor very good at voice over work. His Peter sounds outright brain damaged. Lorenzo sounded more like Bill Murray without even directly impersonating him.
@@ExplorerDS6789 That's because he actually managed to be given *good* voice direction on the original Muppet Babies! Whoever was the voice director for The Real Ghostbusters/Slimer! and the Real Ghostbusters clearly didn't care about how he and a young Kath Soucie sounded as Peter and Janine. 😒
+ColeVecsion Yeah, do yourself a favor....stick with the first season and the syndicated episodes and ignore the later seasons where David Coulier and Kath Soucie take over as the voices of Peter Venkman and Janine Melnitz.
One of the main issues of The Real Ghostbusters was they never had an actual nemesis in the series. Just an enemy of the week. They really should have made Walter Peck a regular enemy, or even a rival ghostbusting company.
If further appearances of that character would've been as badly written as he was in this episode, I'm not so sure that would have saved this series from what it would become.
As I've kind of wanted to say... even if I absolutely LOVED Slimer and couldn't get enough of him. The fact that his role has been reduced from hilarious prankster to silly pet would have pretty much killed my like for him. He can't even make any of the Ghost Busters mad anymore because "They all LOVE Slimer" which was always some of his best scenes. Heck his relationship with Vekman was ruined as well because their previous Love/Hate relationship (or I guess "I might hate him, but I am the one who gets to torture him!") is now at the point where they might as well be wed.
11:37- So, let me get this straight. This organization that studies 'unidentified flying organisms' has come to the conclusion that the flying organism cannot be identified . . . . . . They're the best !
She one of the people poking and prodding POOR POOR SLIMER, which means she's EVIL, so...so that makes sense. Meanwhile, Janine is a GOODY-2-SHOES so she has to have round glasses.
I saw very little of this show as a kid, but...wow, I can appreciate your frustration with the focus on what should be an occasional comic relief character. I loved the Irate Janine jingle.
I had to close my eyes in pain at how sappy that part where Slimer "died" got. There's a fine line between heartwarming and maudlin, and this episode just plows over that line into a puddle of puked-up Sonic cherry limeade that's been out in ninety degree heat for eight hours and drags you down in with it! Yuck! I feel like I've been slimed by that scene -- and I'm not even a fan of this show! I just know it from some vague memories and these reviews. No wonder you're mad! Thanks for all your hard work, Phelous. I really enjoy these reviews.
That said, I think Frank Welker's reading of Ray's lines in that scene was very, very good. You really believed Ray was grieving. That was some solid acting.
17:00... unless Slimer was part of the military, there is no fucking way he could have received a good conduct medal of ANY degree. Was he a soldier in life? Even if he was, he surely would have been decommissioned after he passed away for whatever reason.
i honestly think when he was alive he was a bus driver. (im just guessing that the movies and the series is cannon for this part so plz don judge) in ghost busters 2 we see slimer drive a bus with other humans somewhere and not crash. keep in mind that slimer doesn't really have any thing that even remotely resembles legs to step on the gas/breaks, witch implies that he lost them in a car wreak that cost him his life.
@@rylnn5452 I thought that it was because he died because of food, that dude clearly is munching away in the after life and looks like Bile that came to life. Though that’s probably a more disturbing death
12:05 cy·clo·tron [ˈsīkləˌträn] noun an apparatus in which charged atomic and subatomic particles are accelerated by an alternating electric field while following an outward spiral or circular path in a magnetic field. Or in other words, the writers wanted to use a fancy science word they done heard once.
Well, there are at least six episodes of season three that are actually pretty good, because the episode, "The Grundel" was actually written by Joseph Michael Straczynski. However, the rest of the seasons after three?! yeah...skip them!!!
In fact, I've only found a few episodes from the later seasons that are considered to be the good ones among the majority of bad episodes.... -Robo-buster -Partners in Slime -The Haunting of "Heck" House (Hell House) -Halloween II 1/2 -The Boogie Man's Back -Copycat -Standing Room Only -The Grundel -Loathe Thy Neighbor -The Halloween Door -The Flip Side -Follow That Hearse -Elementary, My Dear Winston! -Janine You've Changed -Transylvanian Homesick Blues -It's A Jungle Out There -Future Tense
JakeSnakeAwesome97 Well, yeah, I mean you could stick with just watching the first two seasons, but after that...just stop. However, I would only recommend "The Flip Side" if you're like into the whole "parallel-dimensions" stuff, "Copycat" which is basically an evil ghost that's mimicking the gang and causing mayhem in the firehouse, "The Halloween Door," and "The Grundel" because those were written by Joseph Michael Straczynski. In fact, "the Grundel" is actually a fan-favorite episode, among all of the other episodes in the later seasons, and lastly, there's "Loathe Thy Neighbor" if you could actually understood the references/call backs to the Addams Family and the Munsters. "Janine You've Changed" is also a J. Straczynski episode that happily pokes fun at all the unnecessary changes that were made to Janine's character because of the *"Q-Fucktards'"* pandering bullshit. But, yeah, the vast majority of episodes from season three to onward....you can just skip. If anything, I'd rather stick with watching season three of TRGB, over watching either Extreme Ghostbusters or the 2016 "remake" of Ghostbusters. *shivers!!!*
OH OH OH XD you know, I love the idea of Peck starting his own ghost busting business n order to get revenge on the ghostbusters. To throw them out of business, by beating them at their own game in a sense.... that could work really well if done right.
Future-Bound Entertainment there is another busting service in the idw Ghostbusters comics called ghost smaschers who believe they can destroy ghosts and egon say that is impossible and it turned out all the ghosts reformed into a giant demon that could even rip gozer apart
and would've been a perfect bridge to bring Louis to the table, the rivalry between the duo regarding how much to spend and what ghosts to focus on would've been comedy gold, and make Mr. Tully a meaningful character, as the only one capable of outsmarting Peck in the field of economics
I liked Lorenzo Music playing as Peter Venkman, he was my favorite character in the series. Even if he did sounded like Garfield the Cat, it had grown on me and fit Peter perfectly. But with Dave Coulier it sounded off and weird plus him being too close to Slimer. I hated it, Peter always found Slimer annoying that's what made it fun it was like a older brother having a younger sibling you never want but stuck with it. Not to mention Janine's look, but it is her new voice actress that I hated the most. It sounded like a whinny 12 year old going through puberty, made my ears hurt.
All the untapped potential here just burns me up. Peck could have had someone steal some ghost busting equipment to take apart and copy. That way, he could start a government-owned "ghostbusters" operation that could put our heroes out of business. Also, if the point of the "cyclotron" was to pull apart atoms, that would have made sense. How's this for a Peck line, after Slimer's examination: "Well, I know one thing this creature IS made of: Atoms."
See, THAT's the kind of idea that would have made for a GOOD use of an animated Walter Peck, and might not be that far off from something Straczynski might have come up with. But alas.
Coulier: Hey, this is just a bunch of scribbles with “warrant” on it! Not Peck: You’re not smart enough to know that. Coulier: WELL I GUESS HE GOT ME ON THAT
... uh, the Real Ghost Busters used to be a really good show, But then there was The Slime of '87. Yeah. I-It's amazing that Peter Venkman can live without his frontal lobe, you know...?
9:25--How much do you change a character before you get to the point where it's no longer that character? THIS MUCH. I don't know who this woman is, but she surely isn't Janine!
i never understood why slimer factored into the cartoon so much when he was in the actual movie for such a brief scene. was it just standard TV protocol back then to give the most obnoxious characters the Steve Urkel treatment?
+KidSnivy69 in fact the minions themselves are basically this generation slimmer. I mean in the original despicable me they where the comic relief meant to be cute and humorous but their charm came from how the played off the main characters like slimer. for the sequel they became a plot point And got real Ghostbusters level attention and finally with minions last year I wonder if Q5 is still out there doing their idiotic ideas on something they really aren't needed on
Slimer is one in many annoying little characters from cartoons - there were guys like Snarf in Thundercats or Orko in Masters of the Universe for instance. Neither he nor the Minions are/were anything new.
Egon: If we fire our beams together towards the occult of q5 and the souless clones of Peter and Janine. It may de-power them. And then we can flush them down the toilet! Winston: LET'S DO IT!!!!!!! ⚡⚡⚡⚡⚡⚡⚡⚡⚡⚡⚡⚡⚡⚡⚡
+ColeVecsion Wow. Amazing. It's great they're giving more voice acting to crows. That just really made Tidus' character work, ya know. Maybe Venkman's character could have been saved with a crow as the VA?
"I remember a sane and logical man who'd never shower with a ghost" he slept with a jar of slime. you can criticize everything elsd, but Egon had that behaviour in the films.
The voice actor for the animated Walter Peck was Snoopy in the animated version of "You're a Good Man Charlie Brown." It would have been so cool to have Snoopy and Garfield at eachothers throats.
Honestly, I could picture something like the B.U.F.O. existing in a world like Ghostbusters. With the rise in actual supernatural monsters terrorizing a populated area like New York, it would make sense that a tax-funded public-sector organization would start up to study them and they would have made a good foil to the blue-collar private-sector Ghostbusters. I mean, if the episode was _written_ competently than it would have worked...
I don't know why Real Ghostbusters used Slimer as a mascot. In the movie, he's gross and slobby. If they wanted a cute mascot, probably use the ghost in the LOGO.
I cant stop laughing. I wish I found your videos sooner. Thank you for saying what I thought as a little girl when I watched it on tv. I cant wait to watch everyone. Keep it up!!!
11:29 "Now, we shall find out what is going on inside the brain and body of our little *ectoplasmic* friend here." Wait, I thought they didn't believe in ghosts...
Maybe it was THEIR thoughts that were producing the "no signal" screens in place of Slimer. Then again, it could also be from the Q5 agents and/or the ABC executives who hired them.
I just re-watched this episode last night, but didn’t notice until now (5:41) that Ray is using a “Sniffer” (or as the model sheet calls it, a “Ghost Detector”). This is despite said model sheet being among the extras on the very same DVD, *and* me remarking to myself that the prop was never actually used on the series!
Ignoring everything else that's silly about this episode, does anybody else think Peck's design makes him look sort of like a....rooster? I'm having trouble pinning down exactly why, but something about his design just keeps making me think of a rooster. A rather psychotic-looking rooster at that. (Seriously, they make him look like a wild-eyed lunatic. Well okay, I guess he sort of HAS become that here, but not nearly enough to justify the crazy-eyes look they gave him.)
It should be noted that this was the first voice acting job for Kath Soucie. She is a very respected voice actress these days (and for the record, I do happen to like her very much), but I wonder how things would have turned out for her if she had never replaced Laura Summer, and Laura continued to voice Janine for the remainder of the run.
Yeah. She was probably in her late teens around this time. I agree that the later episodes sucked and the writers screwed Janine over, but considering this, I'm more inclined to give Kath a break.
+Vahan Nisanian Well, I would have to cut Soucie some slack since it was her first voice acting job back then. But with that being said, I still don't like the later seasons because of how they fucked up Janine's character over and over and over again. I mean, it's not Soucie's fault for voicing Janine in the seasons later on, she just did what she was told. F@#$'n Q5!!!! But yeah, if Laura Summer did stayed for another season and if she was told about the many changes that were made to her character, she would quit voluntarily after another season.
Agreed, I think that Kath's Janine gets unfairly lumped in with Coulier's Venkman when talked about the elements that caused the downfall of the show's quality. It's not Kath's fault that Janine became this way, it's Q5's fault.
I don't like Coulier anywhere near as much as Music in terms of matching the essence and personality of the Bill Murray portrayal, but I do agree that his version would have worked a lot better if the writing level hadn't dropped at the exact moment he arrived.
Voice direction too. Someone to say "Could you do that one again, Dave, less like he really believes that and more like he's being sarcastic, and with just a touch more intensity."
While I can understand how Peter's personality went downhill after Dave Coulier took over the voicing, and how he says things that he would never say - I must say that Dave Coulier probably sounds a lot more like Bill Murray IMHO.
Yeah, I agree. I actually don't think he did that bad of a job, but it's still not a great performance to me, especially compared to Lorenzo Music's portrayal, which may not have been in tune with Murray's voice, but was spot on in replicating Peter's character...with minor differences, of course. Coulier, on the other hand, sounds like more of a parody of Bill Murray, but isn't bad at all. It's when something cringe-worthy or eye-rolling comes out of his mouth that things get truly awful, and the blame for that shouldn't go to Coulier-it should go to the so called 'consultants' who decided his character needed to change in the first place, or the writers responsible for the above mentioned cringe-inducing lines.
+TDImiracle I hear people talk about the sonic cycle. I think it's a similar case here: the Garfield cycle. Lorenzo Music voicing GOOD Peter Venkman and old cartoon Garfield while Bill Murray was the film Peter Venkman and voiced live action/CGI Garfield. and Bill regretted the latter ever since.
Well…Slimers captured. On the bright side, clearly to build up tension for the SUPPOSED important character of the show, the torture SHOULD be mildly entertain- 10:28 GOD DAMMIT ABC YOU COULDNT LET US HAVE ONE?!?!
