Whaaaat? The Leopards of the the Leopards Eating People's Faces Party ate his face?? Who could have possibly predicted this shocking turn of events? You also gotta wonder why people thought he was a nazi, I wonder if it was all the self-identifying as a nazi?
The case of James is one of those where he fell through the cracks so many times, and there were so many small failures that led to it. From therapists not taking him seriously to not getting through to the hotline, a series of small events (some accidentally, others negligent) allowed for this to happen. It's kinda crazy when you think about it.
49:02 is where it started and his parents never cared he was a good kid, moving must've been the final straw from already being neglected. I did say he always had to watch his little sister from at least around the age of 10 all alone, poor kid probably already had depression
@@TheNightWatcher1385 It’s more of “a straw that broke the camel’s back” kind of sense. It may be small, but too many small things can lead to something bigger.
Because "One Bad Day" doesn't exist@@TheNightWatcher1385. Even the people in this very video had a series of incidents which turned them into what they are today. It was a series of events that took place over a long period of time, not "One Bad Day" Even the story this line is taken from: The Killing Joke, serves to disprove Joker's ideology. Joker puts Commissioner Gordon through the worst day in his life, but he still doesn't crack.
@@ImTakingYouToFlavorTownthe mentally ill to writer/general artist/child worker/psychotherapist pipeline is so real. i would also know lol. i originally meant to be a child worker but i switched to animal care
The Joker and his smile is also based off a book by Victor Hugo (who also wrote les miserables and hunchback of notre dame), the book in English is called "The Man Who Laughs" and is about a poor homeless boy in England who is then mutilated by having a permanent smile carved into his face, to make money for a travelling show.
Very true. If you want to get specific, the Joker’s smile is based on the portrayal of the character Gwynplaine by Conrad Veidt in the 1928 film production of “The Man Who Laughs”. In fact the work is referenced several times through Batman media. There was a one-shot called “Joker: The Man Who Laughs”, an evil alternate Bruce Wayne called “The Batman Who Laughs” and in “Batman: The Animated Series” the Joker uses “Gwynplaine Industries” as a shell company for a crime he’s committing to name just a few instances.
I feel like Jame's psychiatrist dropped the ball on this one. "The young man tells me he has homicidal thoughts and isn't comfortable with taking medications. Sounds like work, I didn't do 10 years of university to do ACTUAL work, that's what uneducated blue collar workers are for. I'll just send him home and wish him the best".
The story of Jared and Amanda hits me hard. The 2 officers Alyn Beck and Igor Soldo who were shot were close family friends. Alyn was like an uncle to me. And it’s unfortunate that crazy people like this took their lives.
@@cloudsombreroyou wouldn’t say something like that if it was your people. How much of a selfish evil person do you have to be to tote your beliefs (that nobody cares about by the way) to someone who lost someone close to them in such a terrible way? People nowdays just have no sympathy for others, that’s one thing Arthur Fleck was right about.
@@chernobyl9070 "all cops are bad." It's been said in response to the rampant police brutality, or should I say the age of social media bringing the brutality of the past and present to the light.
James's story is nothing but tragic. A mentally broken man that didn't get the help he desperately needed. It's always a tragedy when a bright mind with so much potential turns to crime
It's tragically funny how the only actual mirror to The Joker that he had was... somewhat similar life circumstances to the 2019 movie. It makes me wonder if his story somewhat inspired it
that's fuckin crazy, i knew this one girl from virginia beach who would never associate with anything joker related and usually shut down any talk involving the joker because of her dad. i never pried into the story, but after this video i found out that specialist chris was actually her dad. can't believe this video cleared up one of the biggest mysteries of an old friend of mine
I don’t know who this is, but that was me. I’m Andrea Lanum, daughter of Christopher Lanum. My dad served in Afghanistan and Iraq. He came home with severe PTSD. He was a combat medic. I remember him taking me to fort eustis where he worked sometimes and telling me “I don’t just save soldiers, I save everyone” now I was only 6. But my speculation is that at 18 years old having to save the lives of poor brown children you are terrorizing will create huge mental issues. He came back extremely paranoid. He had some psychotic break, became delusional and would always saying “you have to watch your back” he had a delusion about his roommate Mitchell stone trying to kill him. His gf at the time who I can never forgive for feeding into his delusions when she was perfectly mentally sound, used a taser on Mitchell and then my dad attacked him. Luckily he crawled to a nearby medical center and lived. It has always been a very hard story for me to tell or I get triggered by the joker easily. He tried to commit murder and committed suicide by cop in the same costume he dressed up with me for Halloween. It’s deeply impacted me. I’m sad he’s in these videos. He was a really good person and loved me so much. He just had severe mental illness. The cops should have tried harder to solve the situation. He had my name tattooed on his arm and I have his name tattooed over my heart. He was an 18 year old sent to war where we used intense propaganda and post 9/11 committed heinous acts in the Middle East for oil. He suffered from the effects. The same year he died it became mandatory for veterans to get psychiatric treatment when they came back. The officer Stanley who looked after me in the months after his passing ended up taking his own life as well. I wonder who you are.
A guy named “Gypsy Crusader” who was raised by a Latina torrent card reader and a LITERAL GYPSY becoming an infamous and beloved Neo-N@z! has to the most ironic event in internet edgelord history.
I feel very bad for “ Clare “ poor girl was traumatized. She’s probably going to be struggling with that day for the rest of her life, even the majority of it considering how young she was. I’m not surprised she developed PTSD that must’ve been such a horrific thing to experience. Hope she’s doing at least a little better these days.
@@tfyk5623their friendship isn't anything like that. They were described as rivals, with their personalities clashing. Not really like a dog and owner relationship. She probably valued her back and forths with Lucy. Valued the rivalry. She was most definitely blindsided by Lucy's insanity, and still longed for the rivalry, and absolutely feels distrust and hates the PTSD that came from it.
Gypsys story is so tragic, 2016 just changed how people act. His government and society failed him . His story will become more common as we are divided by political identities.
Sincerely disappointed that you didnt cover the Nottingham Joker - who dropped a bowling ball onto a social worker's head and left him a cripple for life, among other things
Both of my parents worked at the exact hospital where all of the theater shooting victims were taken back in 2012. My dad was there that exact night, and I remember him coming home and crying for a long time afterwards. At the time of the incident, I also went to school less than a mile away from the theater. I was 6 at the time, and a girl, my exact age, was killed that night. This case just totally destroyed any sense of safety I felt in my own city, and I'll never forget it.
So where is the guy now? The prison they say he is in is closed and has been for 3 years and now update on where he was taken The state doesn't know where he is? That's odd considering they track EVERYTHING Seriously look it up the prison is closed and he just vanished
@PodreyJenkin138 I have to say, I don't think I've heard anything about this, aside from the possibility of him being moved out of state. I don't believe he simply disappeared, but I'm also not sure where he is now. But honestly, it's possible that he was killed by another inmate or a guard, and the whole thing was covered up. That kinda stuff happens a lot with people like him in prison.
@@IamH8ted I'd say society is a lot less connected than a village. In a village, you're seeing practically everyone everyday. Though in society, I can go a month from seeing my dad who lives next door without realizing it, and could go days without seeing my grandmother that I live with if I didn't deliberately make a point to see her.
I’m always feeling like I’m running out of the actually entertaining true crime documentary type videos to watch while I’m at work but Tom comes in clutch once again 👍🏻
It's astounding how far and wide the imagery or sometimes inspiration of this character can be connected or related to various crimes. One story I heard was that in Japan a young man dressed up in a joker costume (the suit anyway) and stabbed four people on a subway train while it was in motion with a large kitchen knife. I don't recall if he managed to kill anyone or if he wounded others, so I won't make any definite statements in that regard, and I don't recall if he was directly inspired by the Joker either or if it was just thematic to him, but still his use of the character's image fits with his violent and chaotic crime. The Joker isn't a character that should be imitated or admired, and that's something that some people with issues of their own who claim to connect with said character seem to miss. Note that the character and his actions are never condoned, but some still seem to fixate on the Joker, typically due to mental issues driving them to do so. I think of this as a false equivalency in regards to what is really to blame, much like with the inaccurate association of violent video games with actual acts of violence, which is to say one doesn't cause the other and there are deeply rooted psychological issues within the individuals in question that are the cause, not the media being consumed and/or the characters within. Either way, it seems some people are attracted to the image and sometimes what they think of as the ethos of the Joker when what they are truly grappling with are their own inner demons for lack of a better term or otherwise some ideas or held opinions and/or beliefs of their own. I guess some people need something to attach it to, but what would I really know? I'm by no means a psychologist or any kind of expert on the mind or the human condition. I'm merely spouting my own thoughts here ad nauseum in the moment. For anyone who might feel the need to claim that I'm trying to sound smart or deep, please don't get it twisted, I'm not and I know that I'm no great thinker and I don't expect people to take anything I state as worthwhile. (Edit: I want to note that turns out I was wrong about the case in Japan. It wasn't the Joker's suit, but I was made aware by a commenter on this post that it was in fact a suit similar to it, the suit of Yoshikage Kira. @himikotoga4270: Thanks for the correction. I appreciate you letting me know. I hope you don't mind me giving you a nod for proper credit.)
@@zogwort1522 I can't lie, you make good points. I don't even necessarily disagree. It does make sense as to why some criminals do take on his guise so to speak and relate to him or even celebrate the character. Just because no one should idolize the character doesn't mean people won't or that it doesn't make sense, you're definitely right. You're also correct that many people and criminal groups do that kind of stuff already, so I do agree that it's a not the furthest leap to take for career criminals or those who commit criminal acts inspired by the character.
@@zogwort1522I wouldn’t say he appeals to autistics. He appeals to sociopaths, psychopaths, and lonely people with dark triad traits. I’m autistic and aside from the famous “Jingle Bells” parody I am not a fan of the Joker and much prefer Batman himself.
@@himikotoga4270 Oh my bad. I had heard it reported as the Joker's suit. I guess I'm not the only one who didn't know the difference lol Anyway, I do appreciate you letting me know and for attributing it to the right source.
@mybaguettes5937 in what way? There was no mention of his being inspired by the movie, and if he was, you'd kind of think it would have been mentioned.
Gypsy Crusader is a clear example of far-left extremist attacking someone for having right wing inclinations and turning them into a far-right extremist. Extremism just leads to more extremism
What, you tell me people who are fine with violence and hating a minority could possibly evolve into people who are fine with violence and hating another minority? Crazy.
Literally radicalised by the leftists and the system that propped them up and empowered them in order to attack Trump. Then they point to him as an example of extremism that they exist to fight. Crazy times we have lived through.
While James is definitely responsible for his actions, I still can’t believe that despite reaching out for help multiple times from professionals, he was brushed off and ignored. Those people played a part in this too, had one person just listened, this may not have happened
tom, waco was not the branch dividians not following what the feds were telling them to do, the part that makes waco so bad is that david invited atf agents to talk after he figured out they were undercover, they rejected, lied about what was happening on the compound, and then started firing at them
The Aurora theater shooting was terrifying. I thought I lost my best friend at that theater due to not knowing she switched to a different one last minute
A quote from gypsy crusader "Riddle me this, they are loud and obnoxious, they like music with rhymes, they are a fraction of the population and commit half the crimes!"
I always wonder if you'll someday make a video on the animation RU-vidr Birdie. It's so up your alley and has a lot of really strange intricate history and depraved characters surrounding it. Another great video as always!
from what i’ve heard birdie’s been on a break and has been improving mentally. him making a video about their situation now would probably do more damage than good lol
@@tono_3459 I really hope they are doing well now. I don't wish them harm I just find long documentary style videos on weird people in weird situations interesting and I think birdie's story is one I would love to see from Turkey tom. If they have gotten better then that would mean we get the rare good ending in one of his videos lol. I also think it is an important one to cover as well to showcase the effects that the internet and toxicity can have on young kids, and to show the importance of disciplining oneself and others when it comes to internet usage. I think these videos don't always need to show the main figure in an entirely negative light (in this case birdie) but perhaps the truly bad people they surrounded themselves with
Its wild to think of how many times these people get so close to coming back from whatever mental illness plagues them, only to slip through the cracks. Tragic for all, really...
Tom. Everyone. For the love of God: Electrocution carries an end result of death. One cannot be electrocuted several times just as one cannot be beheaded several times. Anything short of death is a 'shock'. So, for example, if you are hit with a stun gun several times you are 'shocked' several times, not 'electrocuted' several times.
I'm somewhat surprised you didn't include Kim De Gelder. Although on the other hand I'm also glad since I know the people that would commit these types of acts get great pleasure out of being broadcasted for it. That aside, he supposedly felt a strong connection to Heath Ledger, and the Joker character because of some arbitrary facts like his birthday and initials. In 2009 he killed an elderly lady, I believe it was his neighbour. After which (I think there was a week between though) he dressed up as The Joker and went into a daycare centre and murdered two nine month old babies and a staff member with an axe and knives. He also injured 10 more children and 2 more adults. A horrific scene to say the least, especially considering the intended victims Truly unimaginable how someone can premeditate an act like this. I still remember being a kid hearing about this for the first time. Our country was devastated.
Kim de Gelder had nothing to do with the joker . It was assumed at first but his skin was just pale and people tought he was dressed like the joker because the movie with ledger just came out. It happened in sint gillis dendermonde in fabeltjesland,,its 50 meters from my doorstep and its a social restaurant now. Im happy im getting father this month and not back then . Well im in the hospital because i lost a leg and fingers amongst other things 3 months ago . So happy is a big word
His actions are inexcusable, but I genuinely wonder if the guy who got sent to prison for possession of weed, (and forced to undergo probation and drug tests), would've turned out different if the system wasn't so obsessed with punishing people for smoking plants that give you the munchies.
I... doubt it. Like, don't get me wrong, the prison system is dogshit, but generally, people don't come out of prison with their political leanings shifted further to the *right*
@@Mr.Monacle Many American prisons operate as race based tribal warfare simulators. Do you really think it's odd that a White dude would come out of there being more Rightist?
That dude is from my hometown, Kennewick Washington. He's much older than I am, so I don't know him, but I know my city and people around here rarely get out of the downward spiral of committing crimes once they begin. Especially now since harder drugs are much more rampant and mental health services for the lower class are extremely overcrowded and underfunded. Edit, I'm talking about actual crimes, cus I've never considered smoking weed a crime.
I know it's not a contest, but the guy making bespoke molotovs each themed to his wedding guests and acting out of insane revenge logic wins. That's easily the most like the Joker's actual crimes in the comics, especially the 70's era Joker. That's the version that largely inspired Jack Nicholson's performance, btw. Say, if his gang double crossed him or he just thought they did, he'd go after them one by one, and he'd make it personal.
This case has fascinated me for years. I've tried to discuss it with other American true crime people and most are totally unaware of it. The case is so similar to Mr. Cruel and EAR/ONS/GSK.
Lmao at “epic chungus freedom fighting anti bad guy squad” in the GypsyCrusader story. >see guy filming >randomly begin crying about it and instigating a fight >lose fight >due to ego damage, follow him and his friend with other 4 ppl with the plan to jump him and a random female for the crime of starting, and losing, a fight over someone holding a phone >Lose what started as an unprovoked 1v5 (and still even ended as a 3v5 tbh) after losing initial unprovoked 1v1 >get arrested and call random man who’s done nothing other than hold a phone a Nazi Truly smashing the “fash”
FYI the 88 in his name is his birth year. That insta and his other handles all existed before 88 became what it's memed as now. It's also what us cool millennials used when names were taken. My old MSN, AOL, XBL etc. All have 94 at the end, and so do most of my mates. I believe eventually it moved onto that whole 2k(insert year) and putting xX.
@@mellow63656oh no, my poor little neo nazi with a habit for being a felon with a firearm and committing hate speech at any possible turn is being disliked for being a neo nazi :( oh no, consequences of ones actions are so horrible,
y'know, from everything i understand, that one irish guy (Chris?) was surprisingly forgivable, pretty sure no one got hurt and all that, basically a killdozer situation but the guy actually was fine
I remember hearing about that last guy on the radio a day after it happened when I was in the car, and then I saw it on TV. This was the first time I ever heard of a non-jihadist mass shooting so I was pretty shocked to see it.
13:02 fun fact I went to this school (: just graduated from it last year. It's an all irish school and I remember back in first year I seen a video about christopher and what happened on the richest channel. I showed it to like two people and word about it spread around fast. My english teacher at the time was asked about it but she was adamant all information about who he was and the whole situation was private and was really shocked when we showed her the richest video about it. Anyways, we asked her about if she knew any extra information about the whole thing and she said the corridor he burnt led to the art room (its still the art room to this day but they removed the extra door in it) and all the junior and leaving cert art projects were burned and destroyed. She also mentioned that they had to use the aras cronain (A little house where irish events are usually held down the road from the school) to teach the sixth years
Passed James Holmes every day my sophomore year because he had the civics class before me, closest I've ever been to a killer. Even weirder, I graduated with Kelly Tran from Star Wars in 07.
the editing on this one is crazy. the progression and improvements never cease to amaze. thank you for continually reminding me why i’m a proud turkey tom fan o7
this reminds me of the curse of the joker. it is an interesting series of events to follow centered around the very character of the joker and the effect it has on those who try to act as him in media. one could even consider these cases to be instances of the curse that is a mental disorder you can gain by trying to embody that character.
@@HVVVVVVVV that one too, although i feel the curse of the joker is a bit more interesting and sinister. the joker curse seems to have certain conditions to it as folks like mark hamill being the most famous for voicing the joker isn't affected. but he is also not a method actor when it comes to his portrayal of the character. so maybe allowing the character of the joker into your mind is what causes the tragedy? almost like a concept of a character can infect you like a virus... which interestingly also seems to be the suggested ending of the 2019 joker movie where he used live television to spread the virus.
@@MD-hi9xy still, majority thinks he is the best voice of the joker :/ even being asked to voice the video game ones. did he do the robot chicken joker too? i feel like they asked him and he did but it could have just sounded a lot like him.
@@ArrogantAngel The film and its acclaim leave me completely disturbed, especially considering its ending. He seems to recognize that the Joker is a symbol for the misunderstood, and has almost no objections to that. The ending wants us to understand why Joker is like this, but it's not that simple.
Unless I’m missing something or information was left out of the first story… the dude seemed like a victim of societal double standards and the justice system regardless to if he was hateful or considered a dbag. What an odd story. Never heard about it before.
@cc_c4271 that doesnt mean anything at all lol. The video subject is niche and fits his channel. The amount of time its been uploaded for is 100% irrelevant
"Do you know how many times we've come close to world war three over a flock of geese on a computer screen? Do you know what triggered the last world war? An argument over how many telegraph poles Germany owed its war debt creditors! Telegraph poles!" - Batman: The Killing Joke
As a schizophrenic living in a country that has socialized healthcare, I can't help but wonder how many of these could have been saved with affordable mental healthcare. I know it's not a sliver bullet and that many delusional people don't accept help, you can always lock them up help them anyway. The locked mental ward is the only reason I'm here trying this right now.
Jared's story really hits home. I rememver that day very clearly because my dad and myself almost got into the mess of all that. We live in that neighborhood at the time, and I remember my dad and I going out for lunch that day, the Wingstop we went to was just across the street from the Cici's Pizza and Walmart where Jared and his girl committed horrendous crimes. We were there just after everything went down but I remember seeing a massive police presence and the major street it was on being blocked off. I definitely don't want to downplay the situation or say "I was there when it happened". But I was very close to coming in contact with Jared and his girl. It's kind of haunted me to this day.
Honestly, the first story is less a story of some dudes evil, and more a story describing exactly why the internet is cruel and how it fucks people up.
A lot of this really just doubles down on the story of the Joker: A mentally ill man that was driven to extremism after he had been abandoned by society because saw no other way to prove his point since no one would listen to him prior to the violence. Crazy how when we neglect the mentally ill they can easy fall prey to manipulation by extremists. Who would've ever seen that coming.
