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I think they should make a 19" rack mount version, maybe with twice the I/O, without the knobs, and just the plugin control... That would be a true "blackbox!" unit.
I herd you can link them so I want another haha if UAD and Pro Tools utilize this type of technology like McDSP APB then interfaces would be epic!! 🤘💀🍻🔥
We would have to see if those tubes are powered with the electricity necessary to work or they only have a light on the back and what we hear is nothing more than the plugin, there were several cheap "tube preamplifiers" that did this and the tube was only for decoration. ...but the light came on! ;)
I have one, it sounds very nice. When I add a transformer or two it sounds huge. I feel that if they would have included some transformers it would be a better more versatile box
It doesn't matter either way cause tube preamp don't sound that great anyway. It's the power amp tubes and paper cone speakers that made everything sound good.
Thanks David. This has been out for a good few months now and I was wondering why there wasn't more hype about it. A very easy way to implement some analog tube goodness into a mix, without having to expand your I/O or buy a bunch of cables, and it even has plugin recall!. I mean we go mad when the newest analog tube plug in emulation comes out, but the feed back I was seeing on Gearspace for this was.. it doesn't sound good, it's fake analog, are there any real tubes in it, or mostly distrust that the manufacturer won't be around to support the firmware/software for very long... Just very negative.
What!? Now this is actually something very useful and practical in my opinion…. No gimmicks no crap and straight to the point I love this it’s perfect.
Is it correct to say that this valve-unit is so much fun and really great that you are now adding one permanently to your system and will be featured on your future mixes David?
I don't think so because I have 56 channels of analog already, 22 of them being tubes between eq, saturators and compressors. Instead, I think I'll give this to my assistant in the other studio because he's running with just a laptop. And just in case I'm right when I hear a hint of assumption in the tone of your comment let me be clear: because you'd be a moron thinking that everyone has not one but two studios full of quite expensive analog gear and unlimited I/O's I think we can agree that even if a product doesn't fit MY rig and personal workflow, if someone who does gear reviews - like I do - one would know if and when a unit is cool and fun and worth featuring even if it doesn't fit your personal setup. And if it would probably be a good option for his audience. But if you want to hear the opinion of people who think only what they use is the best - because that's what they can afford or believe is the best - you can head to Gearspace where any piece of gear is basically awful unless they own it and that's the absolute best and everyone else should buy what they have because they have all golden years. Good talk 👍
Really nice video David, and as always, great examples and explanations!! What I would like to see would be a comparison of the different kinds of saturation between hardware Drawmer 1976, FreqTube FT-1 and plugins like Fabfilter Saturn etc. I mean not a nonsense comparison like „which device is better“ or something like that, because I know, that the devices are too different for a 1:1 comparison. I mean rather, what saturation, respectively what device or plugin would you use in specific situations in the mixing process (preferably heavy rock). Of interesst would also be, what are the strenghts and where are the limitations of the the different devices and plugins. Many thanks for all your work and sharing your knowledge with us!! I appreciate that! 👍👍👍
Man, that tube saturator sounds killer bro! I've been mixing in the box for way too long but I'm slowly starting to incorporate more of a hands-on type of workflow with both analog and digital lately. I've been searching for tools I can see myself using in every single mix, so thank you. I really enjoy all of your videos so keep up the great work David! You truly are a master of your craft! Cheers 🍻 🤟🎛️
The question is how long will those tubes last? The box isn't designed for manual changes, and also calibration is a thing. How long do tubes last in your gear, usually?
10 to 20 years. I think that's should be the last of your "questions" your computer will go off WAY before this. Your plugins and OS will be outdated WAY before this. Everything else will go before the tubes. Also there's no "calibration" in a unit like this, there's only matching and basically any shop selling tubes will sell you a matched pair
art is not real tube gear are you trolling? Art does not make one item that has tubes touching your vocals. Now i get why mixbustv goes in on the comments.@@bradleypower4803
What about running the AxeFX2 for guitar thru this then into My 12 inch PAs ? We crave that tone sound this will produce that as the AxeFx2 has everything but that it doesnt have amplifiers that produce wattage its all Amps you have to run thru an amp setup. I run in stereo left and right side into 2 2x12 QSC KRKs with amps built right in . I can also run them without the amps were as I could use this and also run my 4x12 cabinets ?? I bet it would sound insane running thru this ?? Anyone out there try this yet ??
I'm confused why you're looking for a mic or line input. It's a saturator with converters in it, it's meant to be used as a hardware insert for mixing, is not a recording interface
The signal comes out of your daw digital, gets converted to analog inside the box, processed thru the tubes and converted back into digital back into the DAW. Basically like any other piece of gear, only this has the converters inside the box, just like the McDSP APB
Freqport FT1 is real TUBES and makes Saturation and Harmonics - Analog Heat is a Distortion unit and does not have tubes inside. You can really compare it. Both units a great for what they a made to do........ I personally have both in my setup :)
Question David. When I go out of the box to my hardware my stereo image disappears. I've got my inputs and outputs set to stereo and if I set my compressor to linked or unlinked I still lose stereo information. Help! Do you know what I'm doing wrong here? I'm using a rack mixer/interface. Studio live 16r by Presonus and I'm on Studio one using Pipeline plugin to go out and back in.
I assume this has nothing to do with the box in this video? If so, I have no idea, it could be a million things, I'm not familiar with any of the stuff you use, not studio one, not the presonus mixer not the pipeline.
Ya no worries. I know you're using different DAW ect. You've been a huge source of info about mixing just thought you might have heard that happen before. Big fan of your work. Cheers!@@mixbustv
Let's see, R&D to develop the plugin with digital remote control, programmable, digital board, converters, metal enclosure, power supply, Hi Res color screen. Manufacturing, box, warranty. Want me to go on? Such a bright question. It would be like "that engine cost 15K why the car is 80K?" Plus, it's $900 USD for God's sake, not 9K if you think $900 is a lot maybe audio ain't the best choice.
This makes no sense, why add converters and software that will need update etc. This could’ve been easy with the display only representing drive levels and maintenance, and an output for 4 mono and summed stereo. They lost me with mundane software usage, we don’t need more plugins or install, unless it’s like mcdsp or similar. But 32 bit tells me why and for who. We’re sheep for the harvest, be mindful where you graze😊
😂😂😂 Right. Tell me you don't understand how this thing works without telling me you don't understand how this thing works. 4 outputs? And please enlighten us, how exactly would you feed audio to it without inputs? Alien tech? Also, if you didn't get it, the plugin allows you to access the filters and automate. I know most people at home don't even understand why automation is key for mixing but it is. Also for recalls. Also for presets. Also for another 10 things. McDSP APB is one of the most brilliant innovations in the pro audio world in recent years. Imagine how you sound saying things like these 😆
@@mixbustv read with out getting your panty in a twist. I said “unless it’s like mcdsp” and you never heard of a patch bay? Normal, half normal? The technology is there for simple things like internally having a switch for output to save room to be versatile. Ok here’s where you really shoot yourself, recall for tubes? Unless it’s all dsp then you’re lying for a buck. Didn’t have to come at you like this but you are so smart because of the tubes lol, u tubes
@@mixbustv read with out getting your panty in a twist. I said “unless it’s like mcdsp” and you never heard of a patch bay? Normal, half normal? The technology is there for simple things like internally having a switch for output to save room to be versatile. Ok here’s where you really shoot yourself, recall for tubes? Unless it’s all dsp then you’re lying for a buck. IMO using logic
Really curious thing, the idea is amazing. But: when I use my Access Virus TI in USB mode, I can hear the difference in terms of "sound", is the USB translation of tubes "real"?
What do you mean by "USB translation"? There's no such thing, there are converters, converting the signal from digital to analog, processed by the tubes, reconverted in digital just it would be for any other "normal" analog piece of gear, the only difference is the converters are inside the box instead of external.
I'm not familiar with that synth, I'm pretty sure, yes it's the same mode of operation, probably the onboard converters on the virus aren't as good as this.
Okay let's end this nonsense: the tubes run on 65V. It's not a starved plate, it's not a uber high voltage for obvious reasons. Now we can end this pretty silly argument about the "glow" You want high voltage? Buy the HG-2 and pay for the price difference. Simple as that. I wonder how many people just listen to how it sounds instead of pretend to hear at what voltage the tubes run.
This looks awesome - filters are very cool and it sounds great. I also love starting a MixbusTv video and seeing David so genuinely stoked and excited about a product
Yes the bass is real, I recorded it some time ago for the 1970 review video: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-xwNw0_1LtCM.html and the drums are SD3
