Reasons why Portsmouth is crap and should be avoided 

Would love that

I could make one

I’ll do that

I guess the problem is that I have travelled so much around the world, it just makes most towns and cities in the UK seem dull by comparison. I hope this doesn't offend people from Portsmouth but here is my explanation of why I was not impressed by Portsmouth.... The UK really lacks interesting places. In fact it is quicker to give a list of places that are not crap than places that are. The places that are not crap are... London, Birmingham, Manchester (Deansgate only), Liverpool, Newcastle, Glasgow, Nottingham, Sheffield, Leeds, Reading, Brighton, Eastbound, Cardiff, Bristol, IOW, southend. All other UK towns and cities are lacking in my opinion. While this may sound harsh, with the amount I have travelled around the world, it makes bog standard British places seem very underwhelming. The problem with Portsmouth is how bad it is for its size. If I was to say what the most crap town in the UK without regards to size, then it would be some boring little town where nothing happens (e.g. Sittingbourne). But what I don't like about Portsmouth is for how big it is, there is very little of interest there. Has to be one of the most dull places of its size. The other place that is very dull for its size is Manchester which is surprisingly empty of interest for a big city, but at least Manchester has the Deansgate towers which are nice. As for the tucked away Otis lift, I went in it, but I didn't film it. The shopping center just felt very small scale to me. It is just that I am used to big spectacular places such as South Quay (London), Dubai, Benidorm, Hong Kong, Warsaw, Poznan, Paris, Brussels, Sofia etc. These places have put in effort into them. But even places that are not so well developed can be interesting such as Katowice which is very spread out and is mainly countryside, but has a huge extensive tram network. The UK never invests in making amazing places. And in Portsmouth they tried to invest in something for the city, the Spinnaker tower, but it is just pathetic. If Portsmouth was in China it would have lots of high rise apartments with interesting lifts. If Portsmouth was in Poland, the city would have at least 6 tram lines going through it. If Portsmouth was in Germany it would have a smaller tram system in the center that connects onto the mainline in a TramTrain system taking people from nearby areas straight into the city streets without changing. But in the UK Portsmouth is under developed with nothing of interest to it.

@@benolifts Great to see Nottingham on that list. I can also recommend Worcester.

Otis 2000 is a traction lift with 2:1 cabling with a motor room. Otis don't install Otis 2000 lifts anymore. For the last 10 years there has been a trend of moving everything to MRL (even in situations where an MRL is not appropriate). High rise lifts are the only lifts installed today that are not MRL.

Exept the only difference is these are not temporary theyre perminent ones with the acception of probably gonna get modded a bunch of times

And infact these are probably so cheap they probably make evil owls garbage seem somewhat better

I don’t mind kleemen lifts I like the voice in their lifts

Otis 2000 got succeeded by Otis Gen2

Aren't those lift the standard generic design of station lift

yup

100 meters is not high for me. Also, anything less than 130 meters usually has an MRL lift nowadays. So for me, modern buildings only get interesting when they are over 130 meters.

They had Digital lift controls voice before the Otis mod

It sounds similar

I am also loosing interest in lifts slowly. In the past I would go to a typical crap town center and would search every shop and building in the hope of finding an old lift. 5 hours of searching would usually end up with finding 3 relay controlled lifts and 5 other interesting lifts. But nowadays I lost the inspiration to even look. Nowadays often 5 hours of searching will lead to 0 relay controlled lifts and 1 other interesting lift. Also I just find towns in the UK boring. I am used to visiting interesting places abroad, and also visiting tall skyscrapers. The crappy little shopping centers and town centers just feel rubbish to me now. As for modern lifts, most of them are crap generics, or base model MRLs. Even brands I like such as Kone, their bottom of the range lifts feel dull, such as the NMX07. With modern lifts I only find big powerful goods lifts or high speed lifts of interest. But even them I only find Mitsubishi, Kone and Schindler interesting, and I have seen all of these many times. There is little left for me to now enjoy in terms of lifts. I often get people asking me to film the lifts in the crappy little town that they live in, and I feel awkward, as I know that 10 years ago I would have found this interesting, but I don't anymore.

In your dreams they might be

@@benolifts All but relays is good in Kleemann (2017+ year). Compared to KONE or OTIS elevators they are simple and armoured xD

Aren't the relays those cheap tiny ones that are soldered onto the board, so when one fails the entire board gets replaced.

@@benolifts That's the 'Serviced by good technician' part... Engineer would change whole logic board and drive because of relay failure ;) And yes- Those small Finder ones- Mostly orange series (At least in Poland)

Yep especially old Woolworths ones

@@LadySophieofHougunManor7325 how do you know about them in Woolworths , I’m intrigued steve.

@@1961kickboxer I think my old Woolworths had one they had 2 goods lifts but if it was the one I’m thinking it was a marryat Scott that was removed Leaving only one goods lift in B&M Long Eaton towns old Woolworths but going back further I remember when Nottingham co op had attendant operated relay controlled lifts I’ve always been fascinated by them

Short for Pre-opening doors. The inner and outer door safety circuits have a pre-door bypass relay (actually 3 relays for redundancy) that allow the lift to move with the doors open. The following must be true for pre-doors to enable... 1. The logic must chose to pre-door during levelling when arriving at a floor (or for relevelling once stopped) 2. The speed of the lift must be below a certain speed 3. The 2 shaft bars (or magnet switches) must be activated to activate the 3 pre-door safety bypass relays 4. (optional) The logic must not have detected the fault state that the pre-door relays have become stuck or bridged This setup is the standard of allowing a lift to move with the doors open using both software and using physical relay interlocks. Both the software and the relays can not activate pre-doors alone, they must both independently allow it for it to happen.

@@benolifts Thank you Beno you're very clever! 😁

You're from Southampton, what the hell are you saying!??? Isn't it illegal to like us?

Shutup

​@Foxy the Wolf I care.

Hey guys, Austin's comments are crap and should never be read.