Rebuilding a Quad Using The CHEAPEST Top End Kit. How Long Will It Last?

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I rebuild a Polaris Trailblazer 250cc quad with the cheapest piston and cylinder top end kit off of Ebay. How long with the top end kit last? #Polaris, #Test, #Cheap,
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@2vintage 2 года назад

How long will this cheap top end piston and cylinder kit (NICHE) last? Need help fixing an ATV or Dirt bike? Check out this Facebook group: facebook.com/groups/356304232071539/ Please LIKE and SUBSCRIBE if you enjoyed the video! It really helps me out a lot! Check out my Instagram: 2_vintage_ Thank you for the support!

@_T_R_E_V_O_R_ 2 года назад

Always wondered how long cheap engine parts would last and what would break first but have never tried it 😂 Could last 5 hours, could last 5 years ya never know

@2vintage 2 года назад

@@_T_R_E_V_O_R_ yeah exactly

@mrkevmulusa 2 года назад

@@2vintage Hello , do You have any street legal Dirt Bikes 4 sale ?

@2vintage 2 года назад

@@mrkevmulusa no sorry I don't

@kanerichard1279 2 года назад

@@2vintage the outlaw gone I'm guessing?

@louisjohnsonjr.4934 2 года назад

That bike looks to be in great condition and that is rare where im from. Most are thrashed!! Good buy.

@michaelthomas788 2 года назад

Said the rings are worn out is why you're getting blow by could be the cylinders worn out or the person that you bought it from could have cheaply replaced the top in by just putting rings instead of replacing the piston and having the cylinder bored out to the next size piston cuz the city I live in is pretty big more than a million people and nobody cuts cylinders here they have to send it out to another state

@corporalclegg914 2 года назад

I would’ve liked to’ve seen a Compression Check after the new’ish top-end was assembled & brief break-in. we’d be able to measure the gain, though it sounds great to my Ear Meter. we can’t effectively manage what we can’t measure. there’s still time…that info could benefit those considering this product, etc…

@mikemoses1009 2 года назад

Yeah I have one I'm looking at $600 for 500 sportsman 4x4 said something like break pressure switch not letting it switch in to high gear any thoughts

@corporalclegg914 2 года назад

@@mikemoses1009 - unfortunately, I’m No Help here…maybe I/we could with more info, though. what trouble(s) are you experiencing?

@James-sir 2 года назад

Wear eye protection whenever using wire wheels sometimes the little wires fly off and will stick in your eye and it’s not a good day

@yobro4423 2 года назад

I agree . I got hit by a wire in the lip and had a hard time getting it out

@dznuttzonyachin7499 2 года назад

@@yobro4423 don't ever give a wire wheel some lip 😂

@lorollinls 2 года назад

I can confirm that this is true, from experience.

@yobro4423 2 года назад

@@dznuttzonyachin7499 I most definitely will not. She'll bite ya back😄

@TheAwmartin 2 года назад

They don’t call them “cheek pokers” for no reason.

@layton9950 2 года назад

These Polaris four wheeler videos are my favorite ones you do

@andrewjackson6986 2 года назад

body and frame wise best ive ever seen for what is it nice find man!!!!!

@TheSavvyCouple 2 года назад

Nice quad and loved the video. Super helpful as I replace the top end on my 1990 Polaris Trail Boss.

@jasonjones460 2 года назад

My son and I are fixing to do the same thing to a 04 trailblazer great vid

@Dada8050 2 года назад

I have a complete Niche top end with their 440 big bore kit on my 400ex and it runs amazing.

@falconmotorsports8323 15 дней назад

wow that paint looks amazing!

@willcrosbie8806 2 года назад

I have one of those kits on my banshee and has been fine for the last 2.5 years

@jd0316 2 года назад

Ritter Cycle Racing is the go to for the Polaris 250, 400 and 500. FYI.

@highlightzilla9581 2 года назад

If u wanna wait weeks for parts ya definitely but if u dont wannna wait dint go to him 😂 he always backed up think he needs hire some employees

@Erix7810 9 месяцев назад

@@highlightzilla9581no doubt, you call him now and he says your order will be shipped at Easter time. I’m good.

@j-beatsimaginationstudio1987 2 года назад

Sounding great!

@m8fusion712 2 года назад

Awesome video man

@scottmiller3025 2 года назад

I'd have put a set of rings in it and been done, unless I missed something in the process...good video

@youngbuck3535 2 года назад

Nice quad bro very clean

@thelakecommander7632 2 года назад

Wow that Polaris sounds like it’s ready to race a Banshee. Great video and content.

@wecanfixit9342 2 года назад

Idk about a banshee,lol but a pw80 sounds about right lmao but no it does sound good though

@captaindeadpool1640 11 месяцев назад

2 stroke

@Gladiatorguy1998 2 года назад

That’s a clean bike.

@ttvpuresimp0428 2 года назад

200k here we come!

@mrblaze8191 2 года назад

I got this kit in my trail blazer and I got 2 long rides on trails in sand and no issue so far but there are cheap quality

@connersnow298 2 года назад

Awesome vid and edits and filming and bikes

@2vintage 2 года назад

Thank you!

@broo_shs 2 года назад

My Buddies Polaris Trail Boss 325 Got Also Low pressure, But Reason Didn't Was In Piston Or Rings,There Was soot & Scum Between Valves And Valve Ring, So Valves Did Not Close. And some Times Just Taking Piston Out And Clean Rings

@Nate_Allen26 2 года назад

You actually listend to me when i said get a trailblazer 250

@manfo6577 2 года назад

Bought a 90$ kit for my 400ex (piston, cylinder gaskets..) Never had issues for two years, dogged it around. Wheelies you name it. You can even see my channel I had it wide open many times. Not one bit of compression lost. Took it apart for a 440 kit, rings still in spec, cylinder no scores. service after every 10 hours..

@2vintage 2 года назад

Good to know!

@gavinsholar8502 2 года назад

I have a niche cylinder and piston in my 300ex and it’s held up just fine

@yosoytdut 2 года назад

how long you been running it?

@braydenjennings4822 2 года назад

is it the 330 big bore kit

@romper4444 2 года назад

Hey man any update on that 300ex big bore kit from niche? I'm looking to buying one

@gavinsholar8502 2 года назад

@@romper4444 yeah it still runs great and still has a lot of power and I’ve beaten on it pretty hard

@frankdodson3534 2 года назад

Hay youngman if you would take a boxed end wrench and slide it over the open end of the wrench you are banging on with the hammer and use it for Leverage I think you may find that some what easier try it. I believe you can figure it out.

@magee16749 2 года назад

My brother had niche cylinder on his blaster and surprisingly it's made it almost a year no issues. How long they last depends a lot on being installed and broken in correctly

@TypicalGuy84 2 года назад

A year isn't very long at all.

@jeremyhanick1475 6 месяцев назад

What is amazing is I watch all your new stuff and just got this quad and wanted info on it and what do you no it's you fixing the quad I have now that's fantastic

@destruct61 2 года назад

I had a namura piston in my Suzuki Eiger that was bored 40 over and I gave that thing hell everyday only gave it like a 30 minute break in period and it was full throttle off in the woods full time after that and it ran great no problems

@richardkey4289 2 года назад

I put in a 1mm over Namura piston (67 mm) in a suzook LT230s, it runs fine , oil control ring was a pain to slide into cylinder , but 20 hard rides so far, no problem. - I make sure to warm up.my engines before hammering, fresh fuel, fresh m/c oil & filter , & fuel filter , always

@ty717atv4 2 года назад

thanks for the content

@jozsef6453 2 года назад

Well i bought my bike with a 50$ big bore kit half a year ago and still works fine

@mikestowe6136 2 года назад

hell that looked like a quility top end kit but like ya said put a few hrs on it n see

@shartne 2 года назад

when I suggest you paint the plastics with auto paint I got downed in comments saying it would be a shit job. but I can see now I was right it looks really nice.

@Yamaha350w 2 года назад

Dam i miss my 500 ho scrambler 4x4 thing was a beast!

@chrisharriman9017 19 дней назад

Need to use piston to push ring down and square it up . Ring gap is off you can file them to what u did in spec.

@joshuacoyle6584 2 года назад

So close to 200k

@bradysmith5969 2 года назад

I have a 1987 polris cyclone 250 and got one in so far has not blown up lasted 1 month of every day riding the old piston had a broken intake skirt it was bad but luckily did not ruin my crankcase an the cylinder sleeves were chipping too luckily caught it early

@Davido50 2 года назад

Great! Keep gas fresh /use good premix. These oil injected..into fuel? Or traditional premix?

@bradysmith5969 2 года назад

@@Davido50 it is oil injected but I pluged it I use 40:1 mix

@ZaidenGoltry 23 дня назад

I want to thank you. taday has not been a good day. I was riding my polaris scrabler 400 2 stroke, and my cylenter and piston ate the shiter and.this video gives me hope my Atv will still last:)

@kurtyoung6769 2 года назад

I stopped at one minute to say "I hope you cleaned the carb. too!" That wheeler is running lean! A high quality top end wouldn't last long under those conditions.

@mmaaddict78 2 года назад

Yeah, I didn’t see any smoke coming out of the exhaust when he fired it up.

@2vintage 2 года назад

@@mmaaddict78 pump wasn't working.

@mmaaddict78 2 года назад

@@2vintage Ah, that’ll do it!

@ionredline2006 2 года назад

I have used one of these on a $300 400ex. It has actually held great. I was afraid to spend too much if the quad would never run.

@BitcoinYooper 2 года назад

Running the $76 shipped Niche top end kit in my 400ex right now. stock bore,stock comp,, stage 2 hot cam and slip on been ripping good for 2 months. Cylinder piston kits are okay. The Niche heads are kind of questionable, machining is not consistent and softer aluminum from what I hear.

@ericsilverware4561 2 года назад

Sharp quad gonna be a good resale for you

@samael3223 2 года назад

Nice quad

@jeredalmeida1880 2 года назад

When are you gonna pick up a Cannondale 440? Would love to see you do a video on that one!

@royhenson3379 2 года назад

Let's Go 200k

@74elsinore 2 года назад

I'm surprised you didn't just re-ring the piston and call it good. Good job as always though. keep up the good work

@brycehickman6841 2 года назад

I did that same kit on the same motor fired instantly! Then rode it around the yard for about 20 mins then it ran away a top speed turned the ignition of and never started it agin lol sold the next day!

@tpghl5225 2 года назад

Air leak is probably what it was

@grandpa-of-3898 2 года назад

Good job you where right on that bearing but do your self a favor go by a car warsh and clean some of them up before you work on them but great video 📹

@citabria4804 2 года назад

I have a niche cylinder on my 400EX with wiseco piston and rings it has lasted like 20 hours so far

@2vintage 2 года назад

Keep us updated on how long it lasts!

@citabria4804 2 года назад

@@2vintage will do!

@sammcintire4466 2 года назад

I had the same setup I had a niche 416 cylinder and a Wiesco 11.1 piston and it lasted 3 years and was still running good when I sold it

@owenmiddlecamp6984 2 года назад

Just installed one on my 400ex runs great so far

@owenmiddlecamp6984 2 года назад

@@sammcintire4466 that’s crazy , gives me a lot more confidence haha

@megamindtvsydney3967 2 года назад

Awesome!!

@colestella7856 2 года назад

Hey your almost at 200k subs

@410fishing5 2 года назад

I like these vids like your most recent one but is there vids I’m missing more recent on if there still holding up?

@actual_brog 2 года назад

You may still need to re-jet the carburetor for higher compression. Nice looking quad!

@motomedic72 Год назад

How does jetting affect compression? I think this is bad information.

@travisbellew7485 11 месяцев назад

@@motomedic72 lower compression runs leaner

@drmoretz 2 года назад

I’d like to know what kind of paint they used on the plastic, it looks really good

@milesspangler2957 2 года назад

they never made a trailblazer 4x4 only 2x4 your probaly thinking of the scrambler 400 or 500 4x4

@jaejae7420 Год назад

NICE QUAD! WHERE DID YOU GET THE YELLOW GUARD COVER THATS ON THE FRONT??

@quadman9293 2 года назад

Have u herd of coparts look it up it’s so nice priced of broken down Atvs

@FPVSlacker 2 года назад

I used a niche top end kit on my raptor 660 and the head gasket failed after less than 10 hours of riding because the cylinder sleeve dropped. This is a very common issue in these kits.

@project4stroke876 2 года назад

what do u do for the heat??? do u have a AC in your garage? dumb question. but I live in Minnesota and cannot be in my garage for long to work on my bikes cause its so damn hot.

@Bri-tg6xr 2 года назад

I've done top ends on these without taking the clutch off, it's tough but it can be done. Same top end setup on the trail boss also. Please do a compression test, would like to see the change before and after.

@DJswope73 Год назад

How?

@geopioneergsxr5357 Год назад

@@DJswope73's not even tough.. The nuts are no harder on the left side than the right side to take off.. 14mm wrench takes them all off. 100% pointless to take off the clutch. I just did it without touching any of the clutch stuff or foot rest in 5 minutes..

@MotoDoc304 Год назад

I used a niche piston in my trailboss 250. Compression was at high 60s, took apart the top end piston and rings were shot and there was a pretty good scratch on the jug. I had got the quad for less than $400 so didnt want to put too much into it. Ended up keeping that cylinder Bought the niche kit for like $40 compressions at 102 now so not high but high enough to start run and drive. Ive probably only put like an hour or two on it but its running and personally because of how easy it was to swap (took me under 2 hours) i would buy again but basically only for testing purposes. If i was going to take a long ride id swap to a wiseco. Cast pistons are too hit or miss

@txplumcrazy Год назад

I would like to see u do the carb rebuild

@andrewstahl6916 2 года назад

Duuuuuudeee my family used to have one, it was white and yellow. First 2 stroke full sized bike I ever rode. We named it the monster, but we ended up selling it to buy a better bike for trails

@chaddowns4680 2 года назад

Be cool to see ya get some old school shit. Like Rm370,PE250 etc..

@Ateyoshmoes 2 года назад

Sometimes i think polaris makes some of the weirdest quads ever... Like who makes a 250 2 stroke trail and sport quad with reverse, electric start, and an auto transmission. Probably convenient but i think would just go with a race quad

@2vintage 2 года назад

Yeah it's pretty weird lol

@claytongowin9897 2 года назад

They are very fun tho for what they are

@reggiexp69 2 года назад

yeha them trail boss are wierd 2 stroke automatic quads.... very odd i find them and often broken for sale :)

@nicksmith-rz2dl Год назад

Lol gotta remember they started out make snowmobile so they kinda just slapped the engines in the quads or should say the three wheelers that where the grandfather and frankly the only ones that where automatic.

@calinmanasturean9774 2 года назад

I really want to see you on a yamaha wolverine 450

@orionwarren4244 2 года назад

'Gotta get DEEZ NUTZ on now' 31:41 LoL

@alexferreira6081 2 года назад

Does this lit come with the cylinder jug? What is the niche part number and where did you find this kit?

@yungBitta291 2 года назад

My ocd would never let me put that rusty dirty head pipe on it and that side of the motor would be wire wheeled to and painted

@tomatoknuckles 2 года назад

One of my pet peeves about this channel is he never cleans stuff he's about to work on. I bet alot of shit falls down to the crank and in cylinders. Very messy "mechanic"

@traveling_country_ranger_ 2 года назад

First! That thing is sweet!

@sneakersoliver275 6 месяцев назад

How do you compare the trailblazer to the ATC 250r? I can’t find a ATC 250r for sale in my area so I’m thinking 2 stroke dirtbike or a trailblazer.

@ItsMrZack 2 года назад

Nice job man …..

@drpritchett91ify 2 года назад

Strange machine

@Erlov71 2 года назад

Thats basically me everytime i go on ebay for parts for my bikes lmao

@worldrage619 2 года назад

I’m not certain but it looked like you had both ring gaps on the same side. Aren’t they supposed to be facing opposite sides?

@hectorsanchez2146 6 месяцев назад

What type of oil or fluid go in the front container?🙏🏻

@jonbaggarly6969 2 года назад

Man I got a whole kit identical to that for my sport 400 and I did everything per manual instructions and I've had to work on it since there too soft

@2vintage 2 года назад

Yeah I used the oem top rod bearing off the quad. I hear the bearing is the fail point on these kits.

@jonbaggarly6969 2 года назад

@@2vintage oh yea no matter how much oil or assembly lube they heat up sooo quick I've put 3 together in the past couple years and I have 3 junk wrist pin bearings all heated on first start up

@larrywarner9314 2 года назад

My opinion I'd just buy a new oem or pro x piston kit hone the original cylinder and put it back together instead of using inferior parts .

@2vintage 2 года назад

Yeah not my quad. The guy who owned the quad wanted me to install the kit.

@rabbyredpath3598 2 года назад

Those are getting hard to find, polaris trail blazer 250 2 smoker

@brian395 2 года назад

that's normal for Chinese quality control some last years some last minutes

@magee16749 2 года назад

Need to invest a spring puller Buddy or cut a notch in a junk flat Head.

@sandmanbub 2 года назад

@Whoop!

@michaelthomas788 2 года назад

Your so-called primary and secondary clutches is actually a CVT transmission or torque converter they work the same way as the RPM increases the belt increases in size creating a bigger front sprocket smaller rear sprocket like a bicycle gearing concept but automatically changes depending on RPM

@GYPSY400 2 года назад

I would have replaced the rings with OEM and honed the cylinder then Sent it!!

@broo_shs 2 года назад

Daam that sound like metal banging tik tok machine

@lt-z-quadnation6644 2 года назад

You must have some cool neighbors with you running those 2 smokers all the time ? 😂 Except for the Karen that called the cops on ya for riding on the street that one time . 🤣🤣

@2vintage 2 года назад

Yeah she just sits and waits for me to test ride down the road lol

@austindial4572 Год назад

Where’d you get the plastics from?

@rm25088 2 года назад

cleeeaaaannnn

@DM-te3cj 2 года назад

Bro dont use blades to take old gaskets off u can take away the metal doin so use a propa tool

@zaneclark5226 2 года назад

sounds like it's running rich, try coming a quarter turn out on the air/fuel screw

@BiggieEighth 2 года назад

It’s lean lmao

@Aidan-xy8jq 2 года назад

Hi @2vintage I’m looking at a 99 KTM 200exc and I saw u once had one just wondering if it’s a good bike to buy thx

@2vintage 2 года назад

Mine wasn't that great. It depends how the previous owner cared for it.

@Aidan-xy8jq 2 года назад

@@2vintage ok thanks

@marcos22571 8 месяцев назад

Where did you buy the stickers?

@adamace2002 2 года назад

where did you get those platics from

@christopherburton4623 9 месяцев назад

Where does the vent from the new head go?

@gazclayton787 2 года назад

If your going to feel for scratches top tip take your gloves off 😜😂😂

@reitzy69 2 года назад

Be doing a top end rebuild on my tb250 now...97 and owned since new and it after all these years now little to no compression....going with a Namura piston kit

@jonnyonwheels 2 года назад

Is this a customers bike or one you bought?

@wisecampmotorcycles8258 2 года назад

Still pumping that throttle I see, while your trying to start a cold engine with the choke on, lol man, don't you ever read the comments?

@wecanfixit9342 2 года назад

Yeah he doesn't know that opening the throttle defeats the purpose of using the choke lmao 🤣😆

@wisecampmotorcycles8258 2 года назад

@@wecanfixit9342 he would know, if he reads his comments. I've mentioned it to him several times. He's just not interested in learning from people more experienced than himself. His videos are comedy to me, I always get a laugh from things he does. 😂 He could do better, but he just won't take advice.

@0001Noah 2 года назад

I know it's an old video but I wanted to ask anyway. When you're running it before the rebuild you can hear a rattling type noise, and after the rebuild it goes away. Do you know what this sound is? Is it piston slap? My machine makes the exact same noise before and after I replaced the piston but not the cylinder, I just lightly honed it.

@CarlosC77 Год назад

It's your cam chain, I have a 00 trailboss I am replacing because of that right now. Same exact sound

@0001Noah Год назад

@@CarlosC77 The one in the video and mine are both 250 2 strokes. I continued to ride mine but it had running issues and wouldn't start hot. I had to get the cylinder bored over. Noise gone, so it was piston slap from a worn out cylinder in case anyone else wants to know.

@CarlosC77 Год назад

@@0001Noah Oh I totally forgot they made 2 stroke trailbosses lol! Thanks