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All new wood in rebuilding a chuck wagon undercarriage front axle. Salvaging the original iron work, we finally have the front axle reassembled and useable again. Next steps will be to redo the rear axle and wheels. Thanks for following along!
Building and restoring horse drawn vehicles involves being a wheelwright, blacksmith, upholsterer, woodworker, painter and striper, and sometimes an archeologist.
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@ronpeterson9528
@ronpeterson9528 2 года назад
As a Senior Structural Designer of over 40 years...i find the this combination of steel and wood amazing. Until I watched some of Dave's vid's (starting with the borax wagons) I never knew the complexity of these coach undercarriage's. I merge of steel and wood, the workmanship, the patience to actually do it all. I love it. I look forward to Friday. Thanks Dave for letting me watch.
@robertbamford8266
@robertbamford8266 2 года назад
There’s also the design, which I expect evolved as problems arose and were solved over generations.
@465maltbie
@465maltbie 2 года назад
@@robertbamford8266 yes about 5000 years of learning, still like Ron I never really thought about it till I watched one of Daves videos a year or two ago. Charles
@nickpitt
@nickpitt 2 года назад
So is the wood holding the steel together or is the steel holding the wood?
@ronpeterson9528
@ronpeterson9528 2 года назад
@@nickpitt The wood holds everything together. The steel reinforces the critical connections that experience high stress.
@nickpitt
@nickpitt 2 года назад
@@ronpeterson9528 But all the wood is held together with steel bolts, so arguably steel holds everything together. I just love the way they are use together, each to it's own strengths.
@mikepetersen2927
@mikepetersen2927 2 года назад
I continue to be in awe of Dave's ability to freehand-drill holes from both sides of a piece, both square & angled, upside-down & backwards, and have them join up properly even before using a heated rod. 🤩
@barryrudge1576
@barryrudge1576 2 года назад
This was something I learned back at the beginning of the 60's as a young apprentice, drill from both sides if either is slightly off the other will correct the drill bit as you make your third pass with the drill bit.
@howardschaefer1445
@howardschaefer1445 2 года назад
@@barryrudge1576 I've been doing this when the need arises since watching Dave do it. Never too old to learn.
@MichaelOnines
@MichaelOnines 2 года назад
I was just about to make the same comment!
@overdoneone
@overdoneone 2 года назад
I have been pondering that very same thing myself..
@ohcrapwhatsnext
@ohcrapwhatsnext 2 года назад
All in the camera... lol
@ron827
@ron827 2 года назад
Love your outtakes and the queen bolt snicker. If your creations are stored inside as they should be, they will be around for another century when someone looks at those clocked nuts and realize it was made by a detail man.
@CassiarClan
@CassiarClan 2 года назад
Anyone else caught themselves checking out all the wagons, wheels and running gear while watching an old western movies on TV. Thanks Dave. LOL
@garrettswoodworx1873
@garrettswoodworx1873 2 года назад
I don't know about the rest of you but I think it would be an absolute hoot to sit around the campfire and listen to Dave tell stories. As always Dave: Thanks for allowing us to tag along on this wonderful journey.
@tommartins712
@tommartins712 2 года назад
wonderful craftsmanship! loved the bloopers at the end, also.
@uraqtee
@uraqtee 2 года назад
I liked the "Bloopers" also, also his laugh during those, keep up the good work and keep laughing, we all make mistakes
@jeffclark2725
@jeffclark2725 2 года назад
@@uraqtee He is human too,ehin the camera,i wonder how many fans go by to see his shop
@tolbaszy8067
@tolbaszy8067 2 года назад
The hardware and wooden undercarriage structure seems diabolical. How this design evolved is amazing. You got that Queen bolt and King pin explanation just perfect, like all your work! Thanks!
@overdoneone
@overdoneone 2 года назад
Among other things, your videos and workmanship demonstrate just how talented those craftsmen of days gone by were..
@kirkpowell6161
@kirkpowell6161 2 года назад
Another great video Mr Dave! If you ever run out of material for your videos I personally could spend countless hours just listening to you tell stories!!! Thanks for the talking the time!
@azpcox
@azpcox 2 года назад
I love it! “I don’t have those bolts so I’m going to make some long enough”. “These threads are slipping so let me remake some threads.” Pretty sure that’s exactly how these were made in the first place. That swaybar, though, was a Friday afternoon special!
@2_dog_Restoration
@2_dog_Restoration 2 года назад
Dave: I learn some new trick from you from every video. I have never seen a bolt or stud with bad treads built up with brazing. I will never rebuild a wagon but I will use this trick some day in my vintage car restoration. THANKS for teaching us every day. Dan Hamilton
@ralphcline6930
@ralphcline6930 2 года назад
Your ingenuity never ceases to amaze me . Must be miss dianes cooking. Blessings to you and yours . A long time viewer. Thanks to both of you .
@danbreyfogle8486
@danbreyfogle8486 2 года назад
I would have never guessed you needed to take multiple tries to get all those words strung together, nice addition of the flubs at the end. By the way, one of the things I really like about your videos is the opening scenes of Montana and the changes of the seasons. My son lives on the side of a mountain above Philipsburg, MT so seeing your weather reminds me of what his weather is doing.
@brownsuspenders7793
@brownsuspenders7793 2 года назад
I would love to hear that all your videos are archived at the Smithsonian museum. Thanks for producing them.
@user-yv2sc5qv7x
@user-yv2sc5qv7x 2 года назад
Flip, flip, stretch some bolts. Flip, flip, extend a spreader. Flip, flip, make it look Easy! Always great to see the processes
@williamkn621
@williamkn621 2 года назад
Always a Craftsman and ingenious. We know nothing about horses, carriages and wagons but it's so interesting to watch you. Can't help but learn and await the next video
@paullewis6612
@paullewis6612 2 года назад
Dave, I can hear them 150 or so years ago: ‘Just put the extra bolt in. Nobody will find 3/4” in the front suspension. Nobody’s going to worry about it.” You found it😃 You fixed it!! Well done, that’s what makes this channel special in my eyes👍🏼
@dlevi67
@dlevi67 2 года назад
Well, it did take them a while to find it... 😁 which makes the channel even more special. I wonder if the curve profiles are (were) actually not the same - the rods could have started the same length, just wrought to a different radius. And then a 'repair' that takes Dave a couple of hours with electrical grinders and an arc welder could have taken much longer to fix back then, so...
@genegoodman5233
@genegoodman5233 2 года назад
Thanks for that last minute, it was good to see you trying so hard to say everything right. You just couldn’t get it out right, yes we should know the difference between the King and Queen but in this day and time, well you can’t always be sure. It was good to see you laughing and having a good time. Stay safe
@billmorris2613
@billmorris2613 2 года назад
I love the opening and closing scene of the running creek with the woods and fields covered with a nice deep layer of snow.
@jimbayler4277
@jimbayler4277 2 года назад
"Queen bolt" controls the tongue": Now, I believe that's the first time I've seen a hint of a smile in any of your videos. Message and subtle humor understood. From a long-term married viewer/maker/fabricator/amateur Blacksmith/lover of history. Excellent, informative videos.
@jmccracken491
@jmccracken491 2 года назад
Sir, The Queen bolt has no control she is just along for the ride. LOL You sir are a most excellent wagon and carriage builder.
@duanelundgren7985
@duanelundgren7985 2 года назад
Love it, Mr. Dave!! Thank You!!
@rodfair5698
@rodfair5698 2 года назад
Dave, please do me a favor and teach every blogger on the internet about background music! You do it perfectly! As someone who is hard of hearing, I can tell you that you have it down to a fine art! Thank you.
@chemcody5119
@chemcody5119 2 года назад
I watch your channel every Saturday morning. I look forward to it. It is a pleasure to watch a true craftsman at work.
@dougsova1282
@dougsova1282 2 года назад
Let's say the king and the queen work together to keep everything in line.
@johnjamieson6368
@johnjamieson6368 2 года назад
That brazing trick to repair the threads is brilliant.
@zedhead2864
@zedhead2864 2 года назад
Of all the skills you've mastered, Dave, I'm most impressed with your ability to drive a tack with a ball peen hammer. Without bending it. Dang near impossible to do with a round faced hammer. Thanks for the giggle while explaining the "Queen Bolt"
@fs9175
@fs9175 2 года назад
Loved the out-takes!! The wife just cracked up about the king and queen!! Glad to see the joviality.
@andrewclarkehomeimprovement
@andrewclarkehomeimprovement 2 года назад
"The queen bolt is what controls the tongue..." Never a truer word!
@jaayjones5937
@jaayjones5937 2 года назад
"you should know the difference between the king and the queen" maybe not if from California? best laugh I had all day. thank you.
@doctwiggenberry5324
@doctwiggenberry5324 2 года назад
Another Friday night relaxing and watching a craftsman applying his trade. Thanks Dave.
@tomeasley5979
@tomeasley5979 2 года назад
Dave, once again you have shown us what an awesome talent you have. I particularly appreciate the clarity with which you explain everything! Thanks again for letting us join in on the journey. It is a wonderful ride for sure. Keep up the great work and thanks again for sharing your videos with us.
@otti4390
@otti4390 2 года назад
Bei ca. 8.40 die Rettung des Bügelgewindes sensationell. Danke fürs Zeigen
@bushratbeachbum
@bushratbeachbum 2 года назад
Thanks for keeping old skills alive and sharing them so maybe they won't die out so fast. Thanks also for sharing the music details, i enjoy everything you play very much.
@thomasconetsco361
@thomasconetsco361 2 года назад
Never realized how much iron work went into making a wagon. Very nice.
@veteranironoutdoors8320
@veteranironoutdoors8320 2 года назад
I work as a millwright and there are so many times where I could have used that brazing thread repair to make my life so much easier. Thank you for adding to my toolbox sir!
@chrispza
@chrispza 2 года назад
The design and execution of these waggons is superb: the shock-loading, unladen, over rocky ground must be severe ... fully laden -- just extreme. Thank you again, Dave, for sharing your vast (and multifarious) skills with us
@imaoregonbum6683
@imaoregonbum6683 2 года назад
Ive been watching for a while now. I love the tips that I can use for the things I do, Like the brazen thread repair, using a heated rod to align holes. Thank You!
@jeffclark2725
@jeffclark2725 2 года назад
Agreed,never thought about the hotrod trick either,tobe an old blacksmith in the day before power tools
@RobertFay
@RobertFay 2 года назад
*- Gosh, the complexity and elegance of engineering, and the sturdiness that results, and all the work to fit things together just astounds me.*
@jeffclark2725
@jeffclark2725 2 года назад
Im amazed at how these wagons and buggies heald up being drug around and over worked,and Hollywood beat the death out of them in the old movies,and a blacksmith and wheelright could fix them
@cyrilhudak4568
@cyrilhudak4568 2 года назад
I really could not say that better myself.
@RobertFay
@RobertFay 2 года назад
@@cyrilhudak4568 . *- Thank you for the encouraging compliment, Cyril.* *- What people did back in the day really is impressive.*
@tuttebelleke
@tuttebelleke 2 года назад
Never seen or heard about repairing a thread by brazing. Learned something new.
@tomtruesdale6901
@tomtruesdale6901 2 года назад
What an incredibly complex piece of the wagon. I really am impressed with your "find a problem, find a solution" work. Following this build to the very end. Thank you for sharing your knowledge, skills and abilities.
@Garth2011
@Garth2011 2 года назад
Good save on those threads...had no idea brazing was an option. Also, made much sense to lengthen that swivel bar since it was never correct and could cause problems in tight turns, which it likely did for decades. Editing is going really well too. Much obliged as some would say...see you down the trail.
@anonplayer8529
@anonplayer8529 6 месяцев назад
First chuckling thought about that sway bar dilemma and head scratching with the measurements was a wide eyed question, was it a circus buggy, I mean designed to turn tight in circles in just one direction. I have met the type of neighbour/passer by several times, and am guilty of same kind of jokes myself, so good thing there is distance between Finland and Montana, Dave might have chased me out with a red hot poker.😅
@AdamKyleAnderson
@AdamKyleAnderson 2 года назад
Well every time I watch one of your videos I learn something new. Today I learned about hot rods through bolt holes.
@slyfox7429
@slyfox7429 2 года назад
Wow, thanks Dave for showing a different way to fix messed up threads on bolts and the like. I have never seen the brazing technique and running a die to cut new threads . See, this is just one of the reasons I keep watching every video as I learn something every time. Keep up the great work. I'll be watching.
@eralehm
@eralehm 2 года назад
Man, it is really an eye-opener to see how many different skills are needed for this kind of work, and how many little decisions (all preferably correct) are required along the way. Not to mention how much time and effort is involved -- even when you have modern power tools. All hail.
@dorightal4965
@dorightal4965 2 года назад
Thanks, Dave! Especially like the Stumble & Fumble feature! Practice makes perfect, they say. Great way to wrap up this weeks video. Love it!
@rogerscottcathey
@rogerscottcathey 2 года назад
That length difference is so interesting. Thinking there had to be a reason, and, there's no rhyme or reason, both! Lol.
@timeflysintheshop
@timeflysintheshop 2 года назад
Lots of great shop tips in this one! I never thought of 🤔 brazing worn out threads! Very clever! I liked the bit about the queen bolt too! 😂😂😂
@redrockplumber5124
@redrockplumber5124 2 года назад
Always impressed. Mechanical skills, editing and production skills. Thanks for sharing.
@luckyjim51
@luckyjim51 2 года назад
I have built and created a lot of things in life.... I can sit here and just get lost in your work. Thanks!
@johnniewalker39
@johnniewalker39 2 года назад
Oh, bless you for including the bloopers at the end!
@richardbrobeck2384
@richardbrobeck2384 2 года назад
Now I need to dig out the old wagon out the brush on my friends property and restore it !!
@christianmccollum1028
@christianmccollum1028 2 года назад
I never thought about brazing material back onto a bunch of damaged threads like this. Glad to have, again, learned something new (and super practical) from your channel, Dave. Much respect, from Texas.
@albertfinke5677
@albertfinke5677 2 года назад
Loved the bloopers
@jimallen9442
@jimallen9442 2 года назад
Awesome, you make tricky tasks look very simple, the mark of a true craftsman.
@paulg3336
@paulg3336 2 года назад
6:17 Nuts rarely strip from over tightening .It is usually the male thread that strips. The force on the female thread's root is distributed over a larger length of thread due to it being an OD feature. The male thread root is an ID feature which is shorter,the force is more concentrated and strips first. Nuts that have been stripped are usually the result of cross-threading.
@StanislavG.
@StanislavG. 2 года назад
True, given both are made of materials with similar properties and structure :) You can't really know with this old wrought iron hardware (it's a non uniform crystalline hodge-podge, you can have carbides several mm in diameter there that would just chip off on the slightest provocation)
@genegoodman5233
@genegoodman5233 2 года назад
It kind of got me for a few seconds when you rolled the first wheel alone side the wagon. To see the wagon again after watching you build them was breathtaking, with all the iron parts in place ready to go. Thanks again for bringing us alone. I’ve seen your hammer hitting at 100 times per second but not at 10 seconds per hit. I guess we all get older and slow down. Stay safe
@06halfton4x4
@06halfton4x4 2 года назад
Sir, the craftsmanship you put into everything you do is nothing short of amazing. Hats off...
@larrysperling8801
@larrysperling8801 2 года назад
i think we need a series on the evolution and design of these wagons. just the names of the various pieces is mind boggling. i started my career as a millwright apprentice in the 60's i have had the privilege of knowing and working with some very talented individuals so i think i am qualified to say Dave you are right up there at the top of the heap.
@byronk1987
@byronk1987 2 года назад
Connecting through bolts is the bane of my existence! Cleaning them up with a hot rod is genius sir! Thank you for your knowledge and hello from the other side of the Beartooth
@paulevans3261
@paulevans3261 2 года назад
GREAT VIDEO and I thank You for the ending laugh!! What a way to end a day here in CA...
@harrywagner3877
@harrywagner3877 2 года назад
Out takes were funny. 😁
@andrewmantle7627
@andrewmantle7627 2 года назад
Thanks Dave. Love watching your shows.
@mikemccollum4521
@mikemccollum4521 2 года назад
Very interesting and enjoyable watching you solve issues.👍
@guye7763
@guye7763 2 года назад
What a brilliant trick with the threads! So simple once someone clever has shown you! Thanks, wonderful work!
@PendeltonWhiskey
@PendeltonWhiskey 2 года назад
It's such a pleasure to watch a master craftsman at work. That you are such a good teacher and yet so humble, that makes it all the better.
@chrismoody1342
@chrismoody1342 2 года назад
Dave never disappoints. I’m in awe of his talents and sensibilities. He’s a true Renaissance Man. If only I could be so..........
@barryrollins9366
@barryrollins9366 2 года назад
After watching you work on these components, l had no idea how complicated the works are, and building the wheels also! Great work!
@stuartlockwood9645
@stuartlockwood9645 2 года назад
Hi Dave ☺ thanks for another great video, just loved the hot rod boring routine, real old school, and I think it's great it's still being used, that frontend is looking good now, it's magic watching you put it together. Funny outakes, we all get tongue tied now and again, or brain fade as I call it,lol, stay safe, best wishe's to you and your's, Stuart UK.
@wheelerdavea
@wheelerdavea 2 года назад
Love the fiddle breakdown in the first few minutes. Of course the whole video as well.
@chief7174
@chief7174 2 года назад
Imagine if this was done for one simple reason. The horse at the time pulled to one side. And this helped even out the path. :) All jokes aside. I still love this channel. Love your style, info, etc..... Please keep them coming. I look forward to each video you put up.
@neldadusek6678
@neldadusek6678 2 года назад
I really enjoyed this video. The assembly answered a lot of questions for me. I’m rebuilding a Mexican taxi from Acuna. All the wood is rotted out
@chrispemberton7000
@chrispemberton7000 2 года назад
Thanks Dave. As usual your joinery skills are amazing
@lawrencepowell5624
@lawrencepowell5624 2 года назад
The bloopers were a nice touch 👍
@ron.v
@ron.v Год назад
I'm not sure how I managed to watch these videos out of order. I kept wondering what the heated rod was for. Finally, I watched the video where you explain it. Thanks!
@kobusdutoitbosman6240
@kobusdutoitbosman6240 2 года назад
just such immense fun (AND a privilege) watching a Master Craftsman at work...cannot begin to describe?!? Thank you kindly again from the Fairest Cape of ZA.
@JPGuay
@JPGuay 2 года назад
Man oh man ! This is a steel and wood MacPherson technology ancestor ! Am amazed how you seemingly easily navigate through those projects. Hats up my friend !
@michelbrodeur6055
@michelbrodeur6055 2 года назад
We're only human and bound to make mistakes, guffaws and verbal stumbles. Great video and loved the the bloopers.
@antiowarr9467
@antiowarr9467 2 года назад
Never gets old and an professional is a joy to watch.... cheers.
@jeffclark2725
@jeffclark2725 2 года назад
Really enjow watching all these wagons and buggies come back to life,Trying to do a trip to Round Up Montana,Tour the state
@markenna5955
@markenna5955 2 года назад
Brazing on a bolt for new threads is one great idea, thanks. When I am anchored out in the middle of nowhere I'll be able to do some temporary repairs. It sure beats bogging around for a bolt that size or trying to find one in a part I can cannibalize
@FuquarProductions
@FuquarProductions 2 года назад
I like the bloopers, thank you for sharing! Excellent work as always!
@TheVespap200e
@TheVespap200e 2 года назад
Those outtakes at the end of the video made me laugh out loud! Thanks Dave! 👍😊
@billmorris2613
@billmorris2613 2 года назад
At 18:20 to 18:30, I’m glad to see that I’m not the only one that likes to address all my nuts and bolts when possible.
@BuildAMav
@BuildAMav 2 года назад
The outakes were great. Amazing workmanship as always.
@waynelettau6350
@waynelettau6350 2 года назад
LOVED the video, as always, but REALLY enjoyed the bloopers at the end. So he IS human after all. LMAO!!!! As always, educational, enlightening, and entertaining. MAGIC!!!!!!
@kevingerlach7517
@kevingerlach7517 2 года назад
Great way to End the Week and start the Weekend. Thanks for the entertainment, thank you so much.
@davidbrenneman9447
@davidbrenneman9447 2 года назад
Enjoyed the 'last line' very much.
@BrianEltherington
@BrianEltherington 2 года назад
King bolt / Queen bolt LOL. Reminds me of being told once; you can tell how your marriage is going by the kind of meat on the dinner table. If it’s hot tongue and cold shoulder, you’re in trouble. All joking aside, that front end assembly turned out looking like a work of art as is typical for all the work you do Dave. Thanks for sharing with us.
@mturallo
@mturallo 2 года назад
Buddy, you are a gem. Thanks for what you do.
@pnwRC.
@pnwRC. 2 года назад
Loved the bloopers that you included with this video!
@clayz1
@clayz1 2 года назад
I was wondering what you were going to do with that big gap between the stacked axle parts. I knew something went in there. Then you burned the holes and stuck a couple of spacers in there. Ha! Spacers. Ingenious! How do you do it Dave? This whole assembly has just as much iron in it now as it has wood. It’s a pleasure to watch what develops in your shop. I’ve been hooked ever since you re-tired a set of buggy wheels. The rubber tires not the steel tires, though the steel tires are spectacular with the fire. Somehow I’m more impressed with the rubber tires as a learned skill. What a craft.
@nickmichell
@nickmichell 2 года назад
Lovely to see some out takes dave, certainly made me smile.
@steveshoemaker6347
@steveshoemaker6347 2 года назад
lt is a pleasure to watch👀 you work😄🧐🥰...Dave, thanks young man...👍
@fordfan3179
@fordfan3179 2 года назад
I got as many questions as I do answers this week. Guess I'll stay tuned for next week's episode.
@waynep343
@waynep343 2 года назад
That front axle has decades of failure experiences built into it. What a fantastic build. Thanks for sharing it with all of us.
@barrywinters1142
@barrywinters1142 2 года назад
you got your tang tungled on your tooffs. Thanks for sharing
@jk3dad
@jk3dad 2 года назад
Great tip on brazing to repair threads.
@transferemail48
@transferemail48 2 года назад
Just had my 83 thought I had seen alot but brass thread repair best ever Bill
@williambridges6742
@williambridges6742 2 года назад
My wife found the Queen bolt very amusing. Thanks...hahahah
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