@@jcwdigger So i used raw umber paint from pinch back reproductions. Saw a guy use it on youtube and color looked really good. I used a big brush and painted it on my antlers and it was way to dark. i was wiping off with a paper towel and it would basically wipe everything off. These antlers i had to use apoxie sculpt to repair so if you wipe away you can really tell it’s apoxie. Maybe i need to try using a different brush and rag?