Thats impressive most N/A cars running 10s are super gutted with torque converters, bolt ons and tunes. If you did that with the stock tune that's amazing.
@Scavenger 1320 I have a multitude of questions here. Would you get it tuned with Ethanol to pick up some power? Is there a chance of you make some videos beating Mustangs ? I get tired of hearing 10speed is faster. What are the plans with car from now?
@Nick I'm holding off on any warranty voiders like a tune until I know more about what's going on with the direct connection kits. For now I have a little bit more weight reduction to do and a few minor bolt-on type mods. I'd like to see 10s again this spring in more normal weather. I'll be going to The Big Showdown in April and hoping to line up against some mustangs and camaros. I know there'll be at least one 5.0 mustang there that I should be going up against.
Curious what a gutted stock power Mustang or Camaro would run? I’m guessing they probably don’t have 600 pounds they could remove? I’m guessing not in the 10’s? Awesome job. Impressive on stock power.
@@Nick-ew1yythe 10r80 mustang is a beast, ive had two of them. They are fast, i can vouch. Now i got a 392 scat pack and these are fast also. Just a diff type of fast
Just went back and watched this again. What a great weekend! So exciting! My PB so far with my full weight bone stock '22 1320 in bad above 4000 DA in Las Vegas last year was 11.88, which is about on par. I have no serious plans to alter or reduce weight on mine like you have. I've done that before with other cars, a big block Plymouth, and a couple of SB Chevy Vegas. So I'm keeping this car as near bone stock as possible. That being said, I was running good wheels and tires, in fact, my OEM 1320 wheels & tires only have 50 miles on them and still have the nubs (I used another set to put the 1500 mile break-in miles on). I recently did a few minor things to hopefully shave another 10th or two off. Lightweight lithium battery, cold air ducted hellcat airbox & filter, MBRP Race Catback, drained the full window washer bottle, and was going to order the 180° thermostat you recommended. And of course it's already a factory single seater. CHEERS~ AV
I'm so glad that you kept all the original parts...helped me breath a relief. This is a beautiful and rare car, in the best color Chrysler has ever made. You have great taste!
Thanks! I've always been the type of person that likes to keep all the original parts of things. Even as a kid I kept the boxes to my toys lol. I do regret selling the bumper splitter bananas, not to use, but just to have and be able to say I even still have the original shipping guards lol.
Oh Yeah!!!!!!!!!!!! Congrats Chris. Job well done. So happy for you. You proved these Mopars are the real deal right out of the dealership. Jim Durand, Mi.
That's freaking AWESOME! I only ever broke barely in the 11's with my 2015 Charger Scatpack (but didn't have any power mods or weight loss, not even real slicks). That's amazing on stock drivetrain and you lost more weight on your Challenger than I would have thought it would take off!
Thanks for that and for understanding! It gets tiring hearing people saying I destroyed my car as if I could never put it all back together. Makes it easier too since I have a hard limit as to what I'm willing to do with my car.
Congrats brother!!!! I saw something on changing trans fluid that you may be interested in. Thinner fluid makes it Stall higher from what I hear. So happy for you!!
Thanks! That's an interesting tip, I'll have to look into that. Now that I got my 10 I can finally try and get the trans shifting issue taken care of too.
Where and who stated this ? Never heard this from sipple or any of the others that even build the zf transmissions . They do however add 2 more quarts of fluid.
Thanks! 12's should happen for you no problem. I'm going to guess you're somewhere with higher altitude. That can make it tougher especially if the car is full stock weight. Just try to get out there when the weather is cooler!
@Scavenger 1320 still learning on the car in Ohio, which only has just over 9k miles. Looking at getting a drag set, as this is my daily. But, there are others up here with 1320s that break 12s constantly with full interior kit.
@chris williamson you're not too far of a drive from Bowling Green, Kentucky then. You should try and come out to Holley MoParty out there in September. They have a race class just for us 1320s so there'll be a lot of us out there to help each other learn from. I can almost guarantee we'd see you running 12s there, even if you didn't have a drag wheel setup by then.
@Scavenger 1320 yeah, I ran 12.2 at Norwalk.. But like I said.. I've only had the car about a year, and only been to the track a handful of times. Onto this season..
Congrats on the time. It's crazy how much it still weighs even AFTER the weight reduction. Makes me wonder wtf it would take to get it down to something like 3300 lbs. I'm guessing a lot of replacing of body panels and glass. I was only wondering because it would be cool to have a lighter weight 6 speed challenger for road course usage.
Thanks! It's definitely crazy to think about how I've taken so much weight off and I'm STILL heavier than a lot of mustangs and camaros lol. I have it down to 3550 now but I'm about to add a little bit of weight back in for some track required safety items. Without replacing body panels and glass, I think I could get the weight down in the 3400 range, but at this point that would require getting rid of my a/c and spending money on a lightweight brake kit. To get down to 3300 would definitely take some carbon fiber parts. I know Anderson Composites makes doors, trunk and roof for these cars, but we're talking quite a bit of money too at that point.
Ive been watching all your weightloss videos. Thanks man. I picked up a rough 6.1 charger. Going to see how light i can get it. Trying to go 11.99 cheaply.
Thanks! I'm really liking the Hoosiers for sure. Every one of my traps have been higher than before with them on too so they're definitely making a difference.
That's exactly the question I try to answer with what I did. Or if it weighed the same as a mustang. It wouldn't even be a competition anymore between the 2.
Those T/As seem to run really good at the track too. I know one guy with a T/A who i think put 1320 springs on his and also swapped out the 6 piston brembos for the same 4 piston ones that come on 1320s and he runs better times than any other scat out there, except for 1320s, although he does keep up with them. Thanks for watching!
That's about as much racing as I'm getting in this year. I've only been out to the dragstrip twice so far in 2023. It's really not as extreme as it seems. All the stuff I've done can be easily undone. All I need is a Saturday and I could put it all back the way it was. Best part is that in the meantime my interior is just hanging out in my home office closet so whenever I do put it all back in it'll all still be just like new!
Keeping the stock exhaust but taking out the windshield wipers and windshield washer reservoir container is wild... A decent exhaust would give you more power then those 10lb
Then you missed the whole point, which was to achieve a 10 second 1/4 mile with a completely stock powertrain, including the full stock exhaust, and that's what I did. So while removing something that might only weigh 10 pounds seems wild to you, running the 10.9 I did is a direct result of me doing just that with a bunch of small 5-10 pound weight reductions that most people think isn't worth it. One of the reasons I did this was to show what these cars would be capable of just as they are, if only they weighed as little as mustangs and camaros.
Thanks! I'm leaning towards going the Direct Connection route IF the kits ever come out. For now I need to look into possibly a trans tune to get rid of the bad shifting issues.
@@Scavenger1320Cam swap due to failure. Comp stage 2 now and Hellcat lifters. Tuner changed the shift pattern , wow. Mine is 2012 SRT8. Strong car . You're Rockin' Man.
I know your really into weight reduction and congrats on the 10 second passes, awesome man!! So have you considered any suspension parts to further your weight reduction? Have you researched IF anyone makes lighter parts that would lighten our heavy as hell cars? I want to build my car to get into the low 11's without having to strip the car down missing strettable parts like interior trim rugs mirrors etc. I want to figure out if there are replacement parts like the bumper supports, battery etc that will lighten her up. Love your videos man great job.
AAD makes some lighter suspension components that are really nice but also really expensive. I have a full 'weight reduction' playlist with everything I have including a lightweight battery and bumper supports. It also depends on what items you're comfortable with. 'Rugs' don't make a car streetable, things like that are a luxury item. I drive my car fully gutted the way you see here out on the street all the time. The only difference is I put on my street wheels (that still have drag radials btw) and I do put my rear view and driver side mirror back on, but those take me less than a minute to do. You can go directly to my weight reduction playlist here: ru-vid.com/group/PLT6sOvzPq0omxUrKJPKeTuYLkDF2TTy_J&si=opUtGEPY9ReFwC3z.
Thanks, although my car is Hellraisin, Plum Crazy is a brighter purple. For my 10 second runs I just launched off idle. I've used the transbrake before but it's a bit finicky and hasn't really made much of a difference as far as times go. All of my best 60 foots have always been off idle.
Thanks! Temp was around 49 for the 10 second runs with DA around -900 to -1000. You couldn't ask for much better weather the first couple days of the event, it pretty much stayed negative the entire time. You came up in conversation too. I finally got to meet Silva and he was talking about your 1320. Good luck in Vegas, I know you can get that 11.
More like 500 pounds, haven't hit 600 yet but working on it. Everything I've removed or replaced for weight reduction has a vid on it where I do in fact throw everything on a scale. I think the only exception is I didn't get good footage of my trunk trim but those pieces didn't weigh much. I have an entire weight reduction Playlist with all the vids. ru-vid.com/group/PLT6sOvzPq0omxUrKJPKeTuYLkDF2TTy_J&si=87kxg8AIxv4JK1I1
@Zak Vilanilam I see way too many people going the cam/heads route and having all sorts of issues. A lot of them I still beat on the drag strip just the way my car is now. I'm leaning toward the Direct Connection kits if they ever come out. Factory backed and it'll be something new and different that I think would be good for my channel too. For now I have a little bit more weight reduction to do and some minor bolt-ons/adjustments. I'd like to see 10s again this spring in more normal weather, then onto the 9s by next January.
About to try to beat this record this weekend I’ll take video and post it ether way congratulations man I keep telling people a scat can out run a cat seeing I own both the scat just grips and goes lol never made since to me I just broke the stick record for jeep 392
I have, but those hoods are expensive and these hoods are already a lightweight aluminum, so there's only a pound or two savings by going carbon fiber. I know I always say it all adds up but I can't afford spending a thousand dollars for just a couple pounds. The trunk lid though is more like 20 pounds by going carbon fiber, I just need to get the money to afford one lol.
Got a couple minor things coming up but mainly waiting on the Direct Connection kits. As soon as they're released for 392s I'm setup to get it done right away.
@@Scavenger1320 people hate on scat packs and hellcats because they are “slow” they are not slow they are just super heavy. Dodge is keeping the muscle cars alive by making them heavy and putting a big engine in them. If dodge wanted to make a super fast and light weight production car they could totally do it and no other company could compete (like the viper).
@@DillRust the thing is they’re not slow either, just heavy. Hellcats still take me out quicker than ZL1s can. Cant say anything about mustangs, surprisingly I have yet to race a single mustang in my car but I’m hoping to fix that next month at the RU-vidr callout race, but I’m not expecting any big surprises there
If money wasn’t an issue I could probably shave another 200 pounds off with a carbon fiber trunk and doors, driveshaft, 15” brake conversion with 15” wheels, AAD suspension parts and pulling my catback exhaust. As for me the most I could lose is 40 pounds, although 30 is more realistic and would be a healthy weight. I’d have to get a smaller driver to really get a run at its lightest.
There's definitely more than one way to go at it, mine is just cheaper lol. Funny thing though is that I don't associate being gutted with Hondas, I usually just think of coffee can sized fart cans with stupid sized turbos, which a lot of Dodge guys are going with now too, the turbos that is, not the fart cans lol. I've actually been doing the weight reduction thing for almost 30 years now on my Dodges.
@@Scavenger1320 definitely understand and definitely cheaper. I did a 454 stroker on my scat it was not cheap. If I stripped it be even faster. Good to see the 392 can hit 10s
It doesn't look like its going to happen. I should be able to make Detroit but that's probably it. My wife was recently laid off so that makes it tougher to travel as much.
I do when I'm more worried about reaction time than PB times. Footbraking it at higher rpms helps my car react quicker, but it also heats up the converter and I've noticed that hurts my times slightly. All of my best ETs and best 60' have been just launching off idle. I've played around with idle launches, footbrake launches, and transbrake launches, and which I use now depends on the race and the tree. So when going for times, I shallow stage and launch off idle. When racing more competitively where reaction time matters I'll footbrake it and where I stage and how high rpms I hold depends on the tree, whether it's a full tree, .400 pro tree or .500 pro tree. Transbrake I only use when I'm wanting to play around a bit and testing.
@@Scavenger1320 awesome insight man, didn’t know you had an IG just followed that as well! I’m a long time weight reduction aficionado as well trying to chase you an others with NA power of the 392 it’s more than enough! I’m currently at 4180+/-, amazing channel, build, and dedication man!
You make it sound like I ruined my car somehow, when in actuality I technically preserved it! Everything I took out I can easily put back in. Nothing was cut or destroyed, and in the mean time my entire interior is being stored inside my house, so whenever the day comes that I do put it all back in, my interior will basically be just like new still.
Depends if you’re wanting someone local or remote. Plus it depends what other mods you have and what your plans are with the car. Few that I know of that are good with 392s is EFI out in Virginia and Satera out in the Midwest
I been said I was going to get rid of my backseat. Imma put a picture of a backseat back there. No one can sit back there anyway. I’m not trashing the whole interior like that though. Come on with the real drop though.
Ain't nothing trashed. All I need is a day and I can easily put it all back in. I haven't done anything that can't be undone. Plus all of my interior is just chillin in my climate controlled house so whenever I do put it all back in it'll still be exactly like it was when brand new.
I don't know for sure but with the same amount of weight reduction they should be able to get close to or into the 9s. The car I ran against in my 10.99 run was a completely stock super stock on a tire with minimal weight reduction and he ran a 9.97. That's basically a Redeye except with 10 more hp and better tuned suspension for the dragstrip
Love em so far. The launches definitely feel a little bit different from the ET Street Rs with how much softer the Hoosier sidewalls are, and I'm guessing their lighter weight is what's been giving me higher trap speeds since I put them on.
@@novaguy383 They're pretty similar in grip from what I've noticed so far, but as far as I can tell they achieve it a bit differently. The ET Street Rs felt a little stickier, hence being called 'sticky mickeys', but they have a pretty stiff sidewall, which makes them heavier too. The Hoosier sidewalls are softer and wrinkle a lot easier. They're still sticky but I feel like it needs that wrinkle to help so they need a little bit lower psi than the Mickeys. With the ET Street Rs I always ran them between 22-24 psi. With these Hoosiers I kept them around 19 psi this entire weekend. They didn't like the higher PSI when I tried it the first time I took them out a couple months ago. That said I still need more time to play around with pressures and other track conditions to really get to know them.
Because at the time I couldn’t afford a hellcat, so instead I got to be as fast as a hellcat for almost half the price. And not having an interior doesn’t bother me at all, definitely not as much as it seems to bother other people lol. Plus all of my interior is stored inside my house so whenever I put it all back it’ll all be just like new since nothing I’ve done can’t be undone. All I need is 1 maybe 2 days tops and I can put it all back to 100% stock
Sure, it’s a 1320, but it still has a 392 drivetrain that’s just how it came from the factory, and therefore stock. If you don’t think it is, then what do you consider a stock 392 drivetrain? The 392 drivetrain has seen different iterations through the years with different power ratings and different transmissions and other components, not to mention there are Ram trucks with a 392 drivetrain that’s completely different from the others.
@@Scavenger1320 1320s have the demon parts no? stock 392 drive imo is just the regular scat pack trim. I have a 1320 too and thought it was all demon under there lol
@@jont1226 it does share some parts with the demon like the axles and suspension. What if I said stock 1320 drivetrain with a stock 392 motor? I guess that’s more specific but sounds more confusing. But then if we look at stock scat trim like you say, how do you differentiate between the autos and manuals? Both are found in regular scat pack trim and both would be considered stock 392 drivetrains but they would perform vastly different on a track. There’s too many variations to just have one true 392 drivetrain. They’re all going to be unique to what options were ordered and in what trims. The common denominator is that they’re all powered by a 392 and however optioned out are still stock as to how they come from the factory, hence stock 392 drivetrain. I also haven’t even brought up 2014 and older where the 392 had 15 fewer horsepower, but since those came first then maybe they’re the true stock 392?
@Scavenger1320 i just saw stock 392 as the regular scat pack trim. 1320 is still a stock of its own but very different from a stock 392/scat pack because of the parts and drag mode.
It's a 1320, which starts out as a Scat Pack and then has all the drag suspension and drag goodies from the Demon added on. Still the exact same 392 though.
Over 500 pounds. I have vids on pretty much everything I removed in my "weight reduction" playlist and in each vid I get the weights of whatever it is I was removing in that vid.
Then there'd be holes in the trunk and it wouldn't look as good. I like having the exterior looking normal and people not realizing there's anything different about it until they get a glimpse of the interior.
