This first playthrough just finished minus second epilogue it was Morgan (After Arthur Morgan).They we're in it together. Had them since the start of the game even tough i had others I tried here and there. It was always hi. I named him when I felt death getting closer. I didnt wanna leave him behind with nothing of recognition. I thought he lives. To me he was there to be there for arthurs potential final ride. He's waiting deeper across the vally for Arthur though. Maybe as a form if his own. Blew me away to see him hurt to never ride again, but I try to comfort myself thinking hes at peace ike my lay through with Arthur moved on in the after life.
10:45 For the first time in the entire game, Dutch is speechless. Stammering and stuttering trying to defend his actions, but he can't. He betrayed his own ideals, his family. Everything he stood for and loved was made into a lie. Arthur did give Dutch all he had, right up to the end and Dutch turned his back on him, his most trusted son. I think this, more than anything is what breaks Dutch and makes him into what he is in Red Dead 1. You see flashes of RDR1 Dutch throughout the game, but this is where he gives up. He realizes the monster he is. Seeing his first recruit, his son and the person who has had his back, was his right hand for 20+ years broken and beaten, dying in front of him, at the hands of Micah, the person he suddenly put all his faith in. After everything, Arthur still tries to warn Dutch not to trust Micah, still tries to look out for Dutch, even after Dutch let this happen. I think its here where Dutch gives up on having any sort of code or honor and realizes what a mistake trusting Micah over Arthur was. It takes 8 years for Dutch to work with Micah again and when it comes down to it, he clearly doesn't trust Micah one bit because he lets John avenge Arthur in the end. This scene is the last time Dutch is a somehat decent human being and where the last ounce of Dutch's belief in himself and his ideals is snuffed out. Everything is meaningless to him from this moment forward. He's a fraud and a murderer, but worst of all, he's a survivor too.
Your wrong, Arthur is not WAS a survivor haven't been for that fucking TB Arthur would have killed Micah and killed all the Pinkerton agents. The old man is one tough son of a bitch
I’d like to add, that when Dutch said to John, “same as you, I suppose” he means something entirely different. He never had any intention of working with Micah, he planned to kill him, just like John.
The reason everyone hates Micah is because he is written that way. Rockstar almost perfectly crafted a despicable person to make for a wonderful antagonist
What exactly are his motivations? Self-preservation doesn't really account for his actions like trying to broker peace with the O'driscolls or killing pinkertons while working for them.
Not only has Morgan contracted TB severely weakening him, has jumped on and off a train twice, getting into a fight with Milton, falling off his horse, climbing a mountain side, and still proceeds to hand a perfectly healthy Micah his ass,
Yeah tb is so dangerous if arthur was average strong he couldn't even walk probably but he did a lot of things that the strongest and healthiest can not do now
Arthur saying goodbye to his horse, the flashbacks of everyone saying how much of a good man he was, him laying there dying with the sunrise, the buck...it’s all so beautiful and heartbreaking
Rember how hoseo asked Arthur how he would die. Arther answered then: watch the sun goes dawn facing to the west and thinking about all the good memories he had in his life with the gang.
he mused him into the blood with the head but. Micah. stops to wipe blood like arthur when infected earlier in the game. That is promised infection. So micah, then also had a sealed fate, but was to die by the hands of dutch, or john at the end.
@Shane Crane Arthur just got extremely unlucky or bit with karma. The chances of being infected with TB aren't very high but in that time being infected with it was a death sentence.
If you want this to be even sadder, just realize that Arthur's sacrifice meant nothing. Yes, John did mean to leave the outlaw life, but by avenging Arthur (directly going against Arthur's wish to "Don't ever look back. Not ever") he allowed the Government to track him down and start the story of RDR1, which ends in his death, in which his son, despite both Arthur's and John's best efforts, becomes an outlaw by avenging his father.
@@PerfectlyMid nice I died first time with who knows how low honor it was terrible. Died second time with max honor. So refreshing to do it all the right way. I helped John both times I plan to play it again two more times and not help John to get all four endings
The entire story leading up-to this point is heartbreaking. Most of us predicted Arthur would die, but we didn't predict just how much likeable Arthur would be in the end. The good ending and choosing to go with John has to be the most effective ending out of them all, as it brings Arthur's story to an end in the most emotional and redeeming way possible. The story still sits with me a week after completing it....what a beautiful game. Arthur is like the Farther of the RDR world, and John is the prodigal Son. Jack is the new generation born of a bygone era. It all kind of comes into place to set up Jack and his life. I would love the next game or DLC to focus on him later in life, transitioning into the 'modern' era.
gwynost hell yea I thought something similar myself, like goin back to whoever taught Hosea or following up on jacks story as he is now the leader of his own crew during the pre ww2 era or that and during/after the war showing how life goes on considering changes & how well jack is able to adjust if he is at all. Like wouldn’t it be dope to see jack aiding/teaching crews into the 40-50’s possibly hinting at founding a biker gang like the LOST MC? Like that would add so much depth to the gta/rdrd universe instead of considering them different spectrums entirely. @rockstar or #rockstar to get them to notice my brilliance Lmaoo but fr’z tho especially to consider how Johnny from lost mc just gets stomped tf out by Trevor in the start of gta 5 like NOPE this ain’t the age of trusting folks no more 😂😂😂😂
So True! I just finished last night, this is the ending I got. Good God what a sad story this was!! Amazing writing and voice acting!!!!! They killed my Fracking horse!!! That was actually very upsetting! It felt like I was playing a movie not a video game! Although I wish I could of killed Dutch and Micah!!!! Starting epilogue 1 now.
If I could have chosen to follow John to the end I would have. The whole time you are stuck on that cliff it sucks. I wish Arthur could make it and work the farm with John...
Glad my inherent "can't be a dick in reality or virtual reality" nature gave me such a beautiful ending to probably the most likable, well written, complex yet relatable character I've ever experienced in a video game or any other media. Also at the epilogue, if you dont shoot Micah 6 times in the face, you need to redo it...again...and again...and again.
Every breath he takes is a cliffhanger, he pretty much has to force his already weak body to keep going Medical science won't develop a vaccine for Tuberculosis for another 40 years or more, so the fact that Arthur is kicking Dutch's crew's asses while fighting for every breath is nothing short of badass
The facial animation is so good that you can see the moment Dutch realizes that his paranoia and misplaced trust in Micah has cost him the closest thing he had to a son. But it's far too late to take it back, and he knows it. And it breaks him.
Fun fact: The person who voices and moves for Dutch actually cried after walking away from Micah because of how much impact it was, the same feeling many others felt as well
I genuinely miss Arthur in epilogue.. so much that I often go see the grave or his name on the donation list in saint denis. Doesn’t feel right in epilogue after Arthur is gone......
No Redemption for Dutch. He betrayed everyone who loved him for nothing. He did everything for himself, not once seeing the error of his ways. He was worse than Colm. Worse than Micah
@@george-o2514 personally I think Ross takes the cake on that one. He kidnapped Abigail and Jack then blackmailed John then betrayed him and killed him at the end. That’s a special kind of evil right there
@@jamesm8132 Goddamn right, through the story Micah tried and failed in trying to manipulate his way into Arthur's good books like he had with Dutch, only for Arthur to read him like an open book and rebuke him. The moment he sniffs the slightest weakness in Arthur when he contracts TB he is all over it, shamelessly mocking his deteriorating health and doing everything possible to make life worse for him despite the time Arthur spared his miserable life. All probably because Micah knew Arthur was a better man and envied him for it and his place as a well liked member of the gang.
At first I thought Arthur was going to send Micah over the edge of the cliff during the first fight, followed with Arthur dying. Then I thought Dutch was going to put a bullet in Micah, leaving Arthur to die. Neither happened but I loved that. It kept my guessing. I like this ending. I’m glad I got this one. Great character.
@Yoda Best Gamer yeah i've been thinking, on high honour john jack and abigail would think of him as the whole world and the land they walk is thanks to arthur himself, but if arthur is shot by micah, much like a wolf would do, they're just feeding off his corpse
I like to believe that this ending for Arthur is the canonical ending, it's suits him best as a man who tried to redeem himself for all the crimes and mistakes he had made in life and saving john from making those same mistakes was his final "Redemption"
Fun fact:In dialogue between lenny,hosea and tilly I think,in chapter 2,arthur tells them that he wants to die looking at a sunrise. Some pretty heavy foreshadowing right there.
I’m pretty sure he talks about when he dies he looks at the sun down so he can remember the times they had, but with him dying at sunrise shows that he’s changed and looks to the future rather than his past.
This was super hard to play. Really it was. I know Arthur is dying. I know Micah can die (but I'm not sure how he dies just yet, I just got to the first part of the epilogue). But with Arthur at the highest honor, you really get to see Rockstar unpack one of the very greatest characters they've ever crafted, right up there with Marston himself. You get to see him die from exhaustion and disease in the sunrise after he got done helping his brother John escape... its not often videogames tell stories like this so well.
I get it, Micah had to live so that they could have some degree of emotion and interest in that long ass Epilogue... But in this particular ending, with High Honor and helping John, i would have loved Arthur beeing the one to kill Micah. Maybe having Milton surviving until the end... I know i know... But it would be satisfying as hell
This might sound sappy but never in my life have I been so emotionally affected by a game. RDR2's ending still makes me so full of emotion, it was like losing someone I knew. Arthur seemed like more than just a playable character, he was even more that just a character you controlled. This game is truly a god damn masterpiece if it can have me in tears just by listening to the songs in the OST. This game was fucking phenominal.
Micah was such a great villain, hateable in the right way. I didn't think anybody could surpass Edgar Ross as the most despicable villain in RDR but they nailed it with Micah.
dan houser is such an incredible writer. we thought no protagonist would be better than john after rdr1, but they nailed it with arthur as well to the point where i was sad i had to play as john at the end of rdr2
I remember when I got this ending (first playthrough) I was hopeful that Arthur was still alive. Then I broke down when Charles said he buried him as well as Miss Grimshaw 😭 Rest in Peace
I remember at the beginning of this game, I thought to myself who tf is this Arthur dude?? I wanna play as John! But as the story progressed I started bonding with Arthur and actually started liking him a lot. Almost to the point where I forgot John even existed. When he was diagnosed with tb, my heart dropped and I knew my Arthur would not survive. I spent so much time doing things I never really did in rd2 such as playing five finger fillet, and helping out people. Eventually when the time came for Arthur to die, I was mentally prepared to lose someone that I had grown attached to. Someone I despised at the start of the game and someone that I loved at the end of the game. Rockstar smashed it with the character development in this game.
Out of John and everyone in the game and universe, Arthur is the most human. He still pleads with Dutch (who has even been left speechless and is rethinking the decision to join Micah [I don't count the epilogue ending in this fact]), comforts his horse (whether or not if you literally got him 5 minutes ago or had him since the start) while he/she dies, joins and protects John until he can't go no further, and even fights through TB against Micah...and, in my opinion, Micah got his ass kicked by a guy with late-stage TB. He even gives John his hat. The very hat that he got from his father, passed down from father to son. Now to John, a brother. Any character I've had the pleasure of knowing or playing as cannot live up to how human Arthur is and the fact that we do not deserve a character like him, but didn't know we needed so much.
First thing i said when i started the game "i dont want to play this brat i want to play as John". After finishing the game be like "bring back Arthur!!😭😭"
@@loganjulig6227 No. Not Strauss. Strauss sent him to collect the debts, and therefore sealed his fate to TB. Strauss gets to burn with Micah. Edit: I guess he might not have thought about the consequences of his actions. He shouldn't live free but he doesn't really deserve to burn.
I had a white Arabian named Roman Thunder I found while exploring the northern snow capped mountains and my horse had died I roped the Arabian and broke her. It was sad
Yeah I just finished my first playthrough with this ending and Buell. The fact that you watch him die, after a friend gave you him when he died made it so much more depressing.
Dutch didn't join Micah. On the mountain in the epilogue John says "Why are you here Dutch!" and Dutch says "Same as you I suppose." clarifying he had full intentions on killing Micah for 12 years after he saw what he did to Arthur.
Aww I just played this last mission and came here to se what people thought, I was in tears when my horse died and he says "thank you" in her ear. I have had a white Arabian I Called Luna for months, i got her nearly at the start of the game and has been my trusty steed since! So sad. I looked after Buell and had him stabled. We all knew Arthur was gonna die, but its a shame he didnt run away with Mary months before or didn't get revenge on Dutch or Micah, but he got peace instead :') Very well done to Rockstar for this, the whole game was great, storyline obviously and there was so much to do (hunting, bones, carvings etc) scenery and map was brill, there were loads of great other characters you meet along the way (for some reason, the trapper was one of my faves haha!) Looking forward to Rockstars next game, please make it as good as this!!!
Is it me or is that buck smiling like saying “You can go now Arthur you did good” Who ever disliked I hope skinner brothers hunt you down and do their work.
I had this ending but with Micah shooting Arthur in the end. I didn't know that the wolf appearing between chapters was because i had bad honor, but i was acting like an outlaw so yeah now i understand. So I came here to see the real good ending, and after seeing this deer and the way Arthur dies peacefully I regret all my playthrough and I just bursted in tears. This game… is so Moving emotionnaly. I can't Believe i litteraly just exploded in tears while watching the ending of a video game… Thank you Rockstar.
@@brendan594 i replied to the guy saying rockstar should have made the ending be arthur killing micah, when the whole point is that john kills micah and that leads into rdr1 with dutch and the other antagonists
This is simply beautiful ! The song to the rising sun after the whole Story. Damn, i burst out in tears every time ! May Arthur Morgan stand unshaken !!!
When Arthur said to Dutch "I gave you all I had" it's like a blindfold has been lifted from Dutch's eyes and he's seen what he's done and it drove him mad with guilt
Not many games have such evil villains that even make you the player hate them. Few games have memorable brilliant villains (handsome jack for example) but a villain that is hated by all that's a first
You would probably get this a lot but from the start of the game and the moment we met Micah, I immediately hated his friggin face and knew he was going to turn his back on the gang. Most people also knew this, not just me.
Idk why but at 5:56, when Arthur escapes his dead eye and you hear some guy yelling and see the Pinkerton running up the mountain it just looks so god damn good. Idk how to explain it it’s just so fucking good, especially when the music kicks in it’s just perfect to me.
of all the movies ive seen, all the books ive read, all the games ive played, the only piece of media thats ever made me cry is the ending to this game
Arthur: Tell you what Mr. Sinclair, you keep your nice shiny brass compass, get your hide back into the future and bring me some of them future meds for TB. You know, for safekeepin'. To be continued....
I like that it's when Dutch realizes the last person he really has is Micah, that's when he breaks really. it's a realization that he lost himself and his ideals and was now as Micah is, irredeemable and immoral.
Get outta the damn way! Lol I loved Arthur. This is the most I cried from a video game. When he was talking to the nun, I started to tear up. When he was reading that note near the end, I teared up. When he was riding the horse with the music playing in the background, I started to cry a bit. What a damn good game.
Too me most emotional part of this was that last conversation between John and Arthur When Arthur say: I think I pushed enough When he put his Hat on John And when John say: you are my brother And Arthur answer: I know My God This game is such a masterpiece
I just love that scene of Dutch looking between Arthur and Micah, so many thoughts swimming in his head The realization that he did pick the wrong side, the internal debating whether to shoot Micah for what he did but not doing so because he wouldn't admit he was wrong (or maybe he realized that all of this isn't solely Micah's fault) and the final shot of him just walking away since that really all he can do, just walk away from the family he ruined
I had never been so affected at a video game before I remember playing through this type first time and on the way back to camp I almost cried cause I knew his death was coming
I just realized something. If you get this ending, you die in the same way that Thomas Downes, the guy who gave you TB, does. A severe beating/advanced TB
❤❤That music in background when the sunrises hits me hard that made me to remember all my memories with arthur i never got connected this much to a video game character before the best decision i made it was to buy this game masterpiece best another feather in rockstar's cap ❤❤❤❤
The first time I finished this game, I chose to help John and immediately got an achievement. "Reach maximum or minimum honor." Which I thought was cool, confirmed to me that I was doing the right thing
Honestly, having Micah kill Arthur is the worst possible punishment devs can give “evil” players. The fact that one of the most detestable characters to ever star in a video game gets his hollow victory over Arthur is so infuriating, it seems more harsh of a punishment than any genocide scene or ally’s death.
Even though ive been spoiled thr ending the amount of good friends. True friends that come with you its just amazing. I got emotional after i got this scene just my stomach though, but the amount of loyal friends he got and he impacted their life is just joy and sadness and thats what really hit me. Now knowing after this ill probably get rdr just to see what more happens in the future.
