Red Dead Redemption 2 Lag/ Latency In-Depth: PC vs Xbox One X Analysis!

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Red Dead Redemption 2 concentrates on quality of animation to produce a smooth, fluid-looking experience - but the impact to response times is profound. So what is the price of this high-end animation tech - and to what extent can PC improve the experience? Alex has done some testing. A lot of testing.
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@OMjosh123 4 года назад

As far as I’m concerned, before any publisher releases their games, they should send them to Digital foundry for testing.

@Brunn0121 4 года назад

That's what i'd do if i were to release a game.

@rKAL-EL 4 года назад

That’d be so awesome, we would actually get quality optimization for everything

@dabigbadwolf5081 4 года назад

Would be great, but in most cases the quality management is replaced by the marketing part...

@DarkP1 4 года назад

Well df did a mistake they are testing xbox one x wireless instead of usb connected wireless controllers have input lag the xbox one is better in that regard than dualshock 4 Bluetooth but it is probably about 80ms, also they did vsync on pc it can be higher than consoles, consoles are better optimized vsync or adaptive vsync than windows, if you turn vsync off it will decrease input lag very serious and that’s the way to play on pc unless it is implemented really good like games as call of duty modern warfare its vsync implementation is the best I ever seen

@lyserberg 4 года назад

@@DarkP1 Most folks don't plug in their controllers unless they are playing on monitors. Plus, the wireless lag is really negligible since Xbox uses Wi-Fi direct instead of Bluetooth.

@MurphyOCP-001 4 года назад

Have you guys seen the issue of framerate being linked to player stats, meaning the higher your FPS the quicker Arthur gets hungry and loses weight.

@buckmaurice4713 4 года назад

this needs more likes and attention rocsktar better fucking fix it or arthur will starve to death

@Motleyguts 4 года назад

I hope someone also tests the rate that weapons and the horse become dirty as well.

@flingymingy 4 года назад

Rockstar have already noted this and confirmed investigation

@EmopunkDr 4 года назад

Sounds like the old weapon degradation bug which happened in Dark Souls II, when they switched to 60fps.

@AngryChineseWoman 4 года назад

Just set your framerate to 10 fps with RTSS and you're good to go.

@totty2524 4 года назад

Oh my god, imagine how much latency there'll be on the Stadia version. Oh boy!

@_servus2283 4 года назад

it would have negative latency ;)

@Sweettear01 4 года назад

Over 9000!!!!!

@alexaka1 4 года назад

Not necessarily. They want to do some neural network preemptive caching thing, which would eliminate network latency as in it would predict your input before you make it, and so that will happen as if it was a local machine.

@SteelSkin667 4 года назад

If anything, games like this one that have all these animation built-in will kind of mask the effects of the added latency due to the network round-trip. Whereas the difference will be much more noticeable if playing something that is meant to feel much more immediate, like say Doom Eternal.

@gk-if3qt 4 года назад

@@alexaka1 if you believe that, i have a bridge to sell you.

@JJW410 4 года назад

Got this on console last year but the sluggishness makes it absolutely unplayable for me. There's "unresponsive" and there's I feel like I'm fighting against the game to play it. Nearly HALF A SECOND OF LATENCY is just unacceptable.

@Katanalein 4 года назад

That's why I sold it after the first few missions... It is unplayable for me...

@terminator2348 4 года назад

I felt the same

@MrAntisound 4 года назад

Try 10 seconds in heavy scripted story missions on PC, open world is fine, as soon as there is a load of peds spawning with music and companions shouting at you what to do the game starts getting latency in the seconds, up to 10 seconds at times..it's complete garbage that they don't give input high priority above everything else, Rockstar games suck for this reason, they make sublime stories and nice visuals, and then they fuck up with bad coding.

@JPRacer77Qc 4 года назад

Seems like we have two completely different views on what latency is (for me it's about input latency). What you did in this video is show how much over-animated rdr2 is. Latency is how long it takes the game to register the input, so you should measure the time between your button press and the start of the animation, not the end. When the animation is playing it's normal that it takes the same time at 30, 60 or 120 fps, otherwise that would be a bug. Input latency should be inversely proportional to fps but animation time shouldn't be influence by it. In the video you said you were surprised by the little difference between 30 and 60 fps but it's perfectly normal and what I expected.

@adamkallin5160 4 года назад

It actually seems sketchy that the animation is so much faster at 120 Hz.

@asmilex 4 года назад

I still feel like there are missing cases. What about inputs that don't requiere animations? Like camera movement. Is it still that high? And, why not VSync On vs VSync off? Anyway, it is a pleasure to watch your analysis.

@jidenshaotoko 4 года назад

It's meant as a comparison to the console version and since in that one v-sync is on, it makes no sense having it off on the PC. It's in the title "PC vs Xbox One X Analysis!" for God's sake.

@dmitriibob 4 года назад

They said its 18ms on nu8000 game mode. Purpose of this video is to show fire action after movements. Action on screen starts after 18ms on nu8000. That's the tv limit. On monitors will be about 4-10ms. But the question here is the animation for completing the action.

@asmilex 4 года назад

@@jidenshaotoko of course it makes sense. That's why it is PC vs Xbox One X. Not PC with specific settings vs Xbox One X

@asmilex 4 года назад

@@dmitriibob that's not the point. For every test, the display latency is taking into account. But, to prove whether the high latency is due to animations or not, more scenarios should be tested. Moving the camera is one. It should involve no animations at all. If moving the camera takes significantly more frames on Xbox One X than on PC, but many less than shooting, it means we're taking any factor of realism out of the equation. Then, shooting would be laggy because it is in real life. But looking around not. That would provide a more in depth comparison, as well as a insight behind the engine/animations

@alexatkin 4 года назад

@Liquid Sunshine Aiming the gun is typically when I have issues with latency. You overshoot if there is too much delay, just as you oversteer in racing games for the same reason. I found RDR2 much better on PC for that.

@Mitzi_DelverVRC 4 года назад

10:09 for Red Read Remption 2

@adelante303 4 года назад

Red Red Remption 2

@roberttausig9170 4 года назад

You are also measurig the length of the animation, which I feel is then misunderstood by many people. You should count the Milliseconds after pressing the button until the start of the animation. This would be the actual input latency.

@FrozenMod 4 года назад

That's what he did for test A and C.

@ALBO4REAL 4 года назад

I have a question. So I have rocket league on both my PS4 and my PC and use my PS4 controller for both and use the same monitor for both as well. I just switch the hdmis. Anyways my PC reacts way quicker then the PS4 idk why. Does the hardware of the console have to do with it at all? If so would that mean the ps5 would have better reaction time then the PS4?

@dospaquetes 4 года назад

Why the hell would you do a latency test and not include a no vsync high fps result??

@AndyMeesProductionss 4 года назад

Exactly. This makes no sense, also they ain't using settings that consumers would actually try using for a smooth and stable fps.

@pipyakas 4 года назад

First, this is about improvement from the console to the PC version Second, with the cry of "unoptimized" port going on around the port, I assume not many would be able to easily run the game at higher frame rate to prioritize input lag anyway

@snozbaries7652 4 года назад

@@AndyMeesProductionss Say what? He's using XboxX settings at 4k. Those settings scale down to 1080p for lower end hardware.

@mesicek7 4 года назад

They've been making some really stupid decisions when it came to RDR2 videos

@KIager 4 года назад

If you don't understand why the results are triple buffered, maybe don't complain. He could've added an uncapped result to the end of each one, but he's already doing 50+ runs of each test.

@Xilefian 4 года назад

One of my favourite experiments from the 2011 era was late capturing inputs a second time during the same frame, right before camera view matrix is uploaded, just to get any extra mouse inputs rendered to the screen in a first person shooter, combined with late frame re-projection and front buffer rendering (and threaded input polling for eliminating vsync delay) you could make a first person shooter demo that was just insanely low-latency and just incredibly responsive. Direct mouse device input makes a world of difference, also. Pretty much all of these techniques were left at the experimental stage (with things like front buffer rendering creeping in on Overwatch and threaded input polling appearing every now and then) but if someone wanted to make a freaking insanely responsive mouse-driven first person game then it would be very possible. High refresh, low response time displays are a cheaper and quicker win that applies to any game. Another interesting thought is using a PS/2 mouse instead of USB to take advantage of the PC's mouse IRQ and avoid the delays in USB, I remember reading an experiment on this and the conclusion was the gains were negligible. It's kind of a shame that GPUs no longer render by scan and now buffer multiple pages with their tiled architectures and scan that out, although there's a movement currently for GPU drivers to only buffer a single page.

@Xilefian 4 года назад

The comments section names a few points where this video could have improved in methodology. Guaranteeing freesync and gsync would have help a lot with the vsync problem and using a digital, wired input method would have made some difference (although on PC we're at a point where wireless can now be faster than wired regarding some input methods!).

@knighty 4 года назад

I can't say this for certain but I think a lot of games also now stick rendering on a separate thread which samples from game state that has to come from the previous frame which ends up adding another frame too. Combine this with various techniques that sample across frames (like TAA and various other post processing effects) so many games just have appalling amounts of input latency.

@jc_dogen 4 года назад

Recent CoDs have around 35-40ms at 60fps on console, which seems pretty good (not sure about the latest one though). Apparently they use a lot of tricks to get there too.

@Xilefian 4 года назад

@@knighty rendering on a separate thread to game logic has been standard practice for many years now, all that does is move GPU business away from game logic (which these days is split over multiple threads, as is GPU command buffering - particularly with D3D12 and Vulkan). The behaviour isn't game state being sampled, it's more that the CPU and GPU related logics are decoupled into their own loops - this alone will still create a CPU/GPU bottleneck when one thread completes before the other, so it has pretty much no impact on input to photons latency beyond potentially reducing frame time and increasing frame rate.

@kendokaaa 4 года назад

Sounds a bit like late-latching which Oculus do in their "Asynchronous timewarp"

@BRIANSTECHTHERAPY 4 года назад

Excellent job Alex! The work you guys do is much appreciated! John the passion and dedication is evident my friend! Great job as always!

@MinosDaedalus 4 года назад

What about with no triple buffering and no v-sync at all? I mean it's known v-sync adds a lot of input lag so it would be interesting to see how the game compares without it.

@Eoghanb325 4 года назад

Yeah it would have been nice to see those results. Especially since very few people actually play with vsync on PC

@CaptainSpork1337 4 года назад

@@Eoghanb325 Also would have liked to see input latency for simply moving the camera.

@michall6376 3 года назад

Developers just messed up big time on that, don’t try to defend them. Gta V was laggy enough, and it took them 5 years to make it worse.

@michall6376 3 года назад

For me this is really the game killer. GTA V was bad enough and throughout 5 years they only managed to make it worse. Wake up Rockstar, we like your games despite of the terrible controls, not because of them.

@BlueBirdTS 4 года назад

I wonder what latency is like without VSYNC.

@FPRobber 4 года назад

I feel like valueing animations over actual controls was a terrible decision.

@JayJayYUP 4 года назад

Because it was

@diver2791 4 года назад

@@tokeshed It's a game where you spend considerable amount of time hiding behind a cover and spamming auto-aim to kill hordes of enemy goons. If you try to play it like an actual competent tps game (i.e. swiftly navigating the terrain and properly aiming) then you'll fail miserably because of the input latency and lengthy uncancelable animations. Because for some reason Rockstar believe fun gameplay doesn't belongs in an "authentic western story", and want their game to be as much like a film as possible. As an experiment it's fine, and the virtual world it built is really good, but this game gives me headache whenever I want to control my character.

@JURAX14 4 года назад

I was hoping to see latency with v-sync off vs. on

@lizardpeter 4 года назад

why would you EVER have VSYNC on??? worthless tech

@vanjaarsic1616 4 года назад

@@lizardpeter I get screen tears if V-sync is off.

@Tyler-gv6zf 4 года назад

lizardpeter no it’s not, screen tearing is awful

@lizardpeter 4 года назад

@@vanjaarsic1616 tears are better than input lag lol

@wile123456 4 года назад

Yea this test is useless, vsync add atleast 60-100 ms delay, even when it's just double buffered

@ReghalMihn 4 года назад

I can’t remember the last time I’ve seen Digital Foundry drop two videos in one day! We’ve been blessed😄

@antivanti 4 года назад

Would be interesting to to see the latency of firing if the gun is already aimed. Because of course you can't fire very fast when having your gun lowered, even if it is readied. You gotta LT before you can RT baby 😄

@HugoStiglitz88 4 года назад

That's what I wanted to know to

@dabigbadwolf5081 4 года назад

This and the latency from the right stick for aiming.

@HugoStiglitz88 4 года назад

@@dabigbadwolf5081 Yeah frankly the Lay 10C of the right stick is far more important than a trigger pull because aiming is the most skill intensive part of pretty much any game other than Racing

@HugoStiglitz88 4 года назад

@@abeidiot The sync doesn't add latency unless there's actually tearing and there Wasn't in this case

@PvL501 4 года назад

@ Anders Öhlund This is exactly what I came here for. Also the time it takes from moving right stick a bit to actual movement of the character on the screen.

@therealdadbeardold7244 4 года назад

Why no testing without any vsync and buffering? I don't get it. You want the lowest latency you disable both of those.

@seamon9732 4 года назад

And enable low latency in the drivers...

@henryfrancis9533 4 года назад

@@seamon9732 You mean * Nvidia control panel?

@TheStu9000 4 года назад

@@henryfrancis9533 maybe some people are on AMD? ? ?

@therealdadbeardold7244 4 года назад

@@TheStu9000 Doesn't matter. They use vsync to limit frames which is just bad. To people who know how vsync works know this is just bad testing procedure. You disable vsync, go into real fullscreen mode (if the game is not dx12, then being in borderless mode is not an issue as the game runs in flip mode) and then test it. Limit frames so that your gpu does not hit 100% as this raises the input delay with RTSS the fastest limiter with under 1ms response time. Blurbuster has a test somewhere. I'm suprised that som many people look forward to their testing. I literally close the video the moment I hear them talking about using vsync to limit frames. Even on a GSYNC display you get input lag worse than no sync at all even with NULL. This is nitpicking but isn't that what a tech channel should be about?

@e2rqey 4 года назад

I wish you had used M+KB for some of the tests as well as actually testing the latency on not only the trigger but also the normal buttons as well as the analog sticks.

@parabolee 4 года назад

Shocked this video doesn't cover lag between input and reticle movement. I'm far more concerned with that lag than how long it take to fire the gun from pulling the trigger. When I move the right stick and the cursor/reticle lags WAY behind, the game feels like mud and made it unplayable for me on console.

@lomstertv366 4 года назад

very good that you did that test! thx!

@damesdamo 4 года назад

Ayeeee yes another RDR2 vid!

@Fubo777 4 года назад

I'd like to see a input latency comparison between 9900k(s) and 3900x on high refreshrate monitors. Tech Yes City tested 9900k vs 2700x input latency about a year ago, and found that the 2700x had over 60% higher click-to-action latency in CSGO (~11ms vs ~18ms). So I wonder if Zen 2 improves or gets even worse input latency.

@cacheman 4 года назад

12:40 Doesn't the game break at high framerates? Unless they fix that, those 240fps days will never come.

@seanthompson1172 4 года назад

Yea, Gamers Nexus has a video on that as it sounds like you saw that!

@EarthIsFlat456 4 года назад

Actually playing at anything higher than 30 fps breaks the game, the higher the fps the bigger the impact. Until they fix this I'm not playing.

@MrPaola2 4 года назад

A test in the online mode would be interesting as they doubled the speed of almost every animation

@AvrgDerk 4 года назад

Pretty sure that's just part of the stupid bug that ties everything to framerate. 😑😑

@EnjoyLaCroix 4 года назад

@@AvrgDerk it only ties fps to cores and weight, I'm not really sure if it effects online though

@AvrgDerk 4 года назад

@@EnjoyLaCroix Idk I know for sure that it's also been affecting weather and for all I know it also caused issues with animations. But 🤷🏻‍♀️🤷🏻‍♀️

@MrPaola2 4 года назад

@@AvrgDerk No, the latest update made everything faster (reloads, aiming, fire rate) they even removed the animation for looting bodies

@AvrgDerk 4 года назад

@@MrPaola2 big oof.

@MirelRC 4 года назад

Please don't stop making RDR 2 Analysis videos. I love them, and the game too.

@JFragster 4 года назад

Really thorough job as usual! I think response latency could be better represented as the time between a trigger press and when the game starts the animation. That's my only criticism otherwise really enjoy the content, keep it up.

@dennishyun7173 4 года назад

Wonderful as always~!! Thank you~~~!!

@charoleawood 4 года назад

Lordy, surely prioritizing animation over input makes more sense for a linear, cinematic game than it does for an open world sandbox.

@helderantunes7829 4 года назад

do you think next gen consoles can improve in the input lag for RDR2? Or you think its just going to be the same think since rockstar just focuses on the animation of the character more ...and do u think this might be increased even more when gta 6 comes along

@kcvriess 3 года назад

To say that the input lag is a design decision is a little bewildering to me. RDR2 is the first game EVER, that I've abandoned due to this.

@scapingby 4 года назад

Could we get a video on how this game looks like on a CRT?

@CompulsiveResearcher 4 года назад

This is the exact video I've been waiting for since RDR2 launched on PC. So glad DF is out here making this kind of in-depth content!

@nickjensen4385 4 года назад

what latency mode are you using in nvidia control panel i know it makes a big difference when you use ultra latency mode hardware unboxed have already looked in to this ! also it might not feel immediate BUT when you already have the gun up and it's ready to shot it doesn't take that long plus the responsiveness of the aiming is fine on pc

@PetrisonRocha 4 года назад

When I deactivate triple buffer here, it doesn't drop directly to 30. Why? Isn't it working as intended? It's off on NVCP as well.

@CaptToilet 4 года назад

Curious how low it would be if you did test at high fps - 120/144 - and with vsync off on the other test examples

@SketchyChicken281 4 года назад

Imagine this game running at 240 fps lmao

@GENKI_INU 4 года назад

Vsync is always terrible for input latency. I don't even think a lot of people use it. Frame capping is a much better solution.

@AngraMainiiu 4 года назад

You guys really should have compared the Online animations too, since they have been speed up from the single player.

@ivofixzone6410 4 года назад

What about no v-sync, no triple buffering, 144hz 1440p on PC ?

@PewDicate 4 года назад

Great video!

@Minnevan 4 года назад

Sorry to hear about the trigger. I hope it gets the help it needs.

@dreammfyre 4 года назад

Is it really necessary for anything other than a test with the crosshair out? I mean it's extremely easy to feel if there's any input latency with a mouse. All the other stuff basically comes down to animations and inherent delays, not actual input latency.

@AveryCope 4 года назад

The one I’ve been waiting for!!!

@Mamiya645 4 года назад

Regarding input lag, GTA5 PS3 vs GTA5 PS4, wasn't weapon-switching near instant on PS3? Was it by gameplay design that they made it slow and sloppy? Then this chunkiness of RDR2 was on purpose as well. Or something they never figured out with the engine.

@godzilla7391 4 года назад

The only downside of this game to me is the input latency. Its more annoying when youre trying to move , run, or even moving your horse. Very irritating. Feels very clumsey controls

@hkoizumi3134 4 года назад

I don't know why I laughed to this so much. What you're saying is the downside to this game is pretty much the gameplay 😋

@pagb666 4 года назад

180ms was the input latency I had in Quake, playing online in 1997 (which didn't have any kind of lag compensation). They managed to bring it to single player experiences. That's how far we've went xD

@ScribblyDave 4 года назад

I don’t think it matters. These games are not COD. The combat never felt slow. I never felt like I was losing because of the speed of the actions. It’s more realistic by far than any FPS game as it stands. Feels right to me. The ONLY issue with controls in the game is when you’re trying to pick items up and Arthur will sometimes overshoot position.

@agevenisse3252 4 года назад

Why no tests with a wired controller, or gaming mouse? And why didn't you measure the delay while actually aiming? For comparison with XB1X it's still interesting of course, but the input latency is much more important while aiming. What if the Google Stadia version has all the animations removed (or shortened), to make it appear better than it is? It will be interesting to see...

@lewislarsa 4 года назад

Love your videos Alex and the "auf wiedersehen". But there is one very huge flaw. "Faster Harder Scooter" (Germany's anthem) by Scooter is nowhere to be heard in the outro, why?

@TreyM_channel 4 года назад

What do you mean, "why?" Digital Foundry is not a German company.

@hi_tech_reptiles 4 года назад

Im surprised you didnt test more on a high refresh monitor with a lower resolution. I prefer frame rate minimums of 90fps before increased resolution and i just wonder in what ways that affects latency, especially since 144hz monitors are about the same or cheaper at 1080p than a 4k TV.

@MicInc87 4 года назад

Will there be any test on the lastest pach? I can feel there is MASSIVE improvment. I got from 30-40 to almost 60 in Saint Denis on 4770k / 970 (both OC'd).

@cad3nce 4 года назад

That's good to hear. Is the game more stable now too?

@MicInc87 4 года назад

@@cad3nce I had one crash and it was after the patch. Other than that - no problems at all.

@fuahrahn 4 года назад

Can anyone explain me why my eyes r burning with depth of field when i switch TAA on? This thing is horrible, but without it image become too sharp... Sorry for my English, but this is annoying.

@nocxsout 4 года назад

what about the base consoles what setting are they? not possibile to do with the pc version?

@canozcan5269 4 года назад

Can you test single channel vs dual channel ram?

@krovarus1911 4 года назад

Would of liked to see a comparison with like a 100hz low response pc monitor included in this test

@jeffccan4464 4 года назад

Two DF videos on the same day? Is it my birthday??

@jbscotchman 4 года назад

I just wish they would fix the mouse in the inventory menu. It doesn't make any sense using the arrow keys to select an item.

@killer1one1 4 года назад

Both Rise of the Tomb Raider and RDR2 are going to be on Stadia. I expect multiple new videos on each :P

@TiVo2Go 4 года назад

So imagine theGoogle Stadia version, lol.

@santiagomoralesgarcia1802 4 года назад

Ugh

@ScrubCrusher69 4 года назад

omfg haha

@PlaceboZypresse 4 года назад

TiVo2Go nobody will test it because nobody will play it

@Drix7 4 года назад

I will play it :)

@Motleyguts 4 года назад

Think deeper. Console and PC have more latency on purpose just to appease Stadia, and the latency is equal across the board. Imagine that.

@NothingHereForYou 4 года назад

Its crazy they prioritized horse balls rather than responsive gameplay..ya know the one thing youre doing the entire game...playing it.

@MrNono6400 4 года назад

For the record, the Patreon HEVC file is a 162ko html file :( (the h264 file is good)

@guily6669 4 года назад

I knew it just like I was thinking... Because I can clearly see the input lag on the PS4 Pro when aiming vs shooting or doing actions are 2 very different things, there's just a bit of lag while aiming but much more when doing actions or shooting so I totally already knew the game was designed that way and I totally enjoy it with a controller, maybe it will kinda be strange with mouse and keyboard since I'm used to fast shooting FPS games on the PC, but with a controller I totally love the smooth animations\transitions...

@JebberGamingJaws 7 месяцев назад

I have restarted this game five times since it launched, each time convinced I was going to get into it. It’s exactly my type of game! Unfortunately, every time, I am reminded that it feels like I am playing Mashed Potatoes the video game, and have to quit. This finally has given me the understanding I could not put my finger on until now. Thanks 🙏.

@FreakinSweet1987 4 года назад

I feel like this game in particular is hard to test the latency because of how it operates. There are times where doing things like shooting a gun will happen right as you pull the trigger. But there are also times where mashing the button to get off your horse could take 3-5 seconds depending on what animations are trying to end. Everything takes forever anyway, so latency feels like an afterthought in Red Dead.

@MrHarney 4 года назад

this is good stuff ..thank you

@Wordplay7891 4 года назад

As someone who has played and finished RDR2 on Xbox One (S version, which still looked incredible considering the hardware limitations) a while ago, I can assure people that you will get used to the animation lag the longer you play. I remember my first couple hours of RDR2 and I damn near thought it was unplayable; the controls felt so unresponsive and sluggish, but a lot of that is due to just how "weighty" your character animations are, modelled with real-time gravity and momentum. This is a huge departure from games like COD and BF. It takes a while but you WILL get used to it, and when you do, you'll actually learn to appreciate and understand how the controls and animations fit into the theme of this *masterpiece* of a game that is, admittedly, a bit of an acquired taste until you get a few hours into it, and then it just gets better and better.

@AngraMainiiu 4 года назад

Idiots dont realize how much of a big boah Arthur is!

@truthhurts9415 4 года назад

Igor Oro You’re an ldiot.

@madfinntech 4 года назад

What about the PS4/Pro version? I played it through on Pro and didn't experience input latency problems other than what 30 fps naturally gives you. You should consider including THE MOST POPULAR platform into these tests.

@truthhurts9415 4 года назад

You’re an ldiot...

@demon646 4 года назад

wow... thanks guys! I was yelling at my screen saying things like, "Why does it take a half a second to F****** Shoot!!?!??!". And this shows that it literally takes 453 ms (just shy of 1/2 second) to shoot. I thought I was going crazy. I actually stopped playing the game due to this, but now I may try some things with graphics settings and tweaks to play the game in first person mode whenever possible. Side note: I'm reinstalling the game at the moment, but isn't there an ADS button that would allow faster speeds due to no animation? or maybe different guns that have less animations? I could maybe use those guns if so...

@jiobranjo6636 4 года назад

This video made me realize how gorgeous the game looks in first person.

@colinr2550 4 года назад

I stopped playing it early. It's fluid but so slow to do anything. Even walking and picking something up is a joke. They should have dealt with this problem before release. Those latency ms are a joke.

@tsorakin 4 года назад

Why not test this with adaptive sync or v sync turned off all together?

@ryukjoga 4 года назад

Why not also include vsync off? Makes no sense...

@musicxxa6678 4 года назад

Which api is better with nvidia turing cards ?

@aster7693 4 года назад

I thought it was something wrong with my setup at first, on xb1x and at times it is so frustrating, then there's things like when Arthur is at camp it's like he's walking through treacle

@RicoSeattle 4 года назад

Have you played previous Rockstar games by chance? GTA 4, 5 and the original RDR all have this same excessive animation latency.

@aster7693 4 года назад

@@RicoSeattle yes but I honestly can't remember it being this bad lol, maybe now that I know what I'm looking for it's more obvious

@86themadhatter27 4 года назад

I swear i've put more hours into watching Red Dead content than i put into the game because i just didn't enjoy the gameplay as great as the world looked

@parkerxgps8101 4 года назад

Not just looked but worked and interwove itself into the game. The world builders are starting to carry these teams, imo.

@MadOrange644 4 года назад

I couldn’t finish the game on PS4 Pro but the PC version looks like it’s gonna be a better experience 60fps, low input lag and the ability to use cheat engine and mods this game is gonna be a masterpiece.

@86themadhatter27 4 года назад

@Stephen Smith yeah it's a no from me dawg

@musty8748 4 года назад

The game is overrated tbh

@MadOrange644 4 года назад

@@musty8748 Go to Metacritics and go the best games of all time list... There isn't a single game that isn't overrated, you're not saying much. Everyone has a different taste.

@gctdonyre 4 года назад

Please test again with AMD/Nvida's driver level option: Ultra Low Latency & Fastsync/Enhanced Sync. And, what it's like on a Freesync/Gsync monitor. Please, and thanks.

@ohdudez 4 года назад

please test latency of vsync vs no vsync vs windowed vs gsync etc!

@santeyahgo 4 года назад

But why did you test the latency when the gun is drawn and aiming....

@user-gz8pq2es4w 21 день назад

WHEN I PLAY THIS THEN ALT TAB TYPE SOME MESSAGE MY KEYBOARD IS SO DELAY WHEN TYPING WORDS HELP ME PLEASE

@HenrikoMagnifico 4 года назад

Don't count in the animations themselves, check the latency in menus and the like instead, and aiming as well

@vesselinkrastev 4 года назад

I don't know. I don't see myself playing a R* in 1st person. It just seems wrong somehow. I played GTA 5 on PS3 back in the day so i hadn't had the chance to test that.

4 года назад

Well... I kind a expected this video tomorrow... with Stadia comparison too.

@stefanboltzmann1520 4 года назад

how do I use dead eye with mouse and kb?

@GlitchedBot 4 года назад

Can you talk about red dead online and its problems with the famous errors 0x20010006 in another video..??

@lol44603 4 года назад

Digital foundry always doing god's work

@tarfaerhing7555 4 года назад

15:08 how do you know that you are CPU limited in that part?

@SteelSkin667 4 года назад

The GPU isn't maxed out, meaning that the limiting factor is most likely the CPU.

@SamuelHauptmannvanDam 4 года назад

My brother and I both stopped playing after a few hours, because the game just feels so slow. And I think this has a lot to do with it. Like I'm riding a game that doesn't want to be played.

@VeSDD 4 года назад

Any tips on how to get Rivatuner to work in RDR2?

@Bestgameplayer10 4 года назад

Patryk Szczypkowski - Make sure you have the latest version of Rivatuner.

@fritz70126 4 года назад

seriously we need a red dead 1 vs red dead 2 latency test

@nurmagobobthegov1320 4 года назад

That would be night and day. Now you're making me want to play rdr.

@llcoolray3000 4 года назад

Great video. RDR2 is much more of a simulation game. Designed to have Arthur deliberate in all of his actions.

@GODCONVOYPRIME 3 года назад

So just because it looks good the poor controls don't matter? WHAT THE HELL, MAN!?!

@MadsonOnTheWeb 4 года назад

7:52 very realistic pose/frame transition.

@christiankubat8259 4 года назад

You are testing with Vulkan. DX12 ist a bit faster. You should try it.

@dangr3957 2 года назад

I know this is a very old video but I would like to leave a comment on lag on Xbox One X. Yesterday I found out that with 4K enabled, all titles has some animation lag. Not as bad as as RDR2 but definitely there is a latency in both 30&60 FPS. I found some amateur RU-viders who discussed this, but it weird that here for instance never brought up. It’s definitely not my setup as I am still on 4K thanks to TM scaler, this lag is definitely is from the One X and it’s all gone if 4K is disabled. I just wanted everyone to know this.

@elheber 4 года назад

You should modify a controller to light an LED when a button is depressed.

@kendogo7 4 года назад

Digital Foundry is the HDR the same on PC? Or is it improved?

@alessandrolopes5980 4 года назад

Improved

@juniorgameplays8192 4 года назад

It's improved

@faelyogaefitness5593 4 года назад

It's better on PC, i already tested on my Samsung Q80R and Acer Predator X27

@josueantunes880 4 года назад

On the PC version it's more improved

@Nick930 4 года назад

"HDR" lol didn't the console version not have real HDR.. but some SDR that faked it?

@mikauanaki4866 4 года назад

Have you tried shooting while already aiming?

@GODCONVOYPRIME 3 года назад

Have you?

@GrimReaper4383 4 года назад

I had the game crash for the today on the pc. Said it ran out of memory. Considering that I have 32gigs.

@HenrikoMagnifico 4 года назад

Probably video memory then

@JoopEee 4 года назад

For this type of game I don't mind the latency. The animations are fairly big part in setting the overal feel of the game. It's meant to be slower paced. I've been playing PC @ 60FPS with a controller. With mouse/keyboard it may feel like more of a problem I think. The on-rails quest/mission design is much more problematic...!