Red Dot on a 30-30 Field Tested | Best Deer Hunting Gun?

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I took a Winchester Model 94 AE 30-30 lever action deer hunting rifle and added a Primary Arms SLx MD-25 red dot and a XS Sights Model 94 Scout Mount with picatinny rail to setup the ultimate short range deer rifle for hunting on foot. In this test and review I use this setup for a series of drills to test accuracy from a rest and off hand, multiple target acquisition, and did a ballistics gel test.
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This test was done at a certified shooting range using all proper safety gear and protocols. I shot several groups, clay targets, and ballistics gel under controlled conditions testing this close-range deer hunting rifle combination. The 2 MOA red dot optic worked really well, as did the scope mount. #deerhunting #huntingrifle
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@springfieldreserve 5 дней назад

Awesome Job! Im glad that you got that all setup! Perfect rifle for walking through the woods style deer hunting!

@TheNewHuntersGuide 5 дней назад

Thank you so much!

@waltergurly4040 5 дней назад

I have been wanting to use my dads 30/30 after he passed. You have me a little fire to get to it. Thanks

@TheNewHuntersGuide 5 дней назад

Awesome, let me know how it works for you!

@riverrivers250 3 дня назад

How could you not? 3030 is badass and cool asf

@taylorharbin3948 5 дней назад

I love my 30-30 but where I live center fire guns are mostly prohibited for deer hunting except straight wall cartridges. Still, I’m glad to see the old gal going strong.

@TheNewHuntersGuide 5 дней назад

You never know, laws could change. Sadly as hunter numbers go down, many older restrictions are slowly being loosened.

@ChavsADV 4 дня назад

Same for my area but in IL its center fire only, at least .30, straight wall or bottle neck shorter that 1.4” so 300 blk is the only bottle neck worth mentioning.

@hoffpbass 3 дня назад

Then 360 Buck Hammer it is.

@ricknicholson1149 3 дня назад

94 black shadow angle eject nice! I have big bore .444 model rare caliber for winchester

@driftlesshunter9200 10 часов назад

I prefer my 47 year old Marlin 336 that my dad gave me. The flat receiver with the side eject is much better for scope mounting. Very few moving parts make removing the bolt easy for cleaning or bore sighting your scope. Remove one bolt, & you can remove your lever & slide out the entire bolt. It's a rock solid design. The Micro-Groove barrel gives my .308 Tikka 3 competition at 100 yards. The 336 is just a very solid performer that has features I prefer over the model 94. I'm glad that Ruger is doing a better job of carrying on the Marlin tradition. My older 336 doesn't have the extra push button safety, and I prefer that, too. If my house was on fire, & I could only save one gun, it would be my 336. It comes with memories that would be impossible to replace. I've always said, "if someone can't harvest a deer with a .30-30, they probably don't belong in the woods." I like the red dot option, but I would stick with a low power scope at my age. Most deer I have shot with that gun were @ power 2X or under. Thus, a red dot would surely get the job done, too.

@newscoulomb3705 5 дней назад

Also, one chart I think you could have shared with the 30-30 is the felt recoil compared to the other calibers. I think people tend to overlook that, especially when shooting offhand.

@TheNewHuntersGuide 5 дней назад

It's a good point. It has drastically less felt recoil due to the lower velocity. Much less than other 30 caliber rifles, despite how light weight it is.

@christiandore7518 3 дня назад

I have my grandfather's original 1894 Winchester with a Tang peep sight! fed his family with venison and Partridge an anything else that he could see he could shoot what's that rifle! He had hunt camp in Pittsburgh Pennsylvania and lived in New Hampshire, rifle never let him down. You have a good woods rifle there 👍😎🤠.

@TheNewHuntersGuide 3 дня назад

That's great!

@outdoorswithroostercurrie6984 4 дня назад

Another awesome video. I love watching these types of videos.

@TheNewHuntersGuide 4 дня назад

Thank you so much!

@donaldvest5050 5 дней назад

I just picked up a henry big boy 44mag today, thinking about going with a 2-7 scope. Great video as always.

@TheNewHuntersGuide 5 дней назад

Thanks so much!

@eduffy4937 5 дней назад

🎉anybody that says the 30-30 is inadequate for deer hunting has officially drank the creedmoor kool aid....ivectakem deer cleanly with a 25-20, 25-35, and even 22hornet. Horsepower is no excuse for poor markmanship. Everything has its place as long as you, the rifle, and your situation are all in agreement. Smaller cartridges simply require closer ranges. Most deer hunters nationwide average a 36yard harvest. Nearly anything will work at that range. I havevyet to lose an animal due to shootinng a diminutive cartridge because i understand my limitations and ive done my homework at the range. Its dissapointing others find no value in actual rangetime and learning. Average guys deer rifle comes out of the safe 3 days before season, he takes three shots at a measured 100yards only, then says "good enough". What does it do closer in terms of point of aim/point of impact? What is the best bullet construction for your required ranges? Most dont know.

@TheNewHuntersGuide 5 дней назад

I don't think most people even take those 3 practice shots lol.

@eduffy4937 4 дня назад

@@TheNewHuntersGuide this is unfortunately the most likely scenario. Yours ears tell you who practices vs who doesn't on opening day. When you hear the old ak30-30 barking on the neighboring property, he's one of those guys

@mussersbowsboatsandscience6610 5 дней назад

I had bought a little .44 tactical carbine rossi and the front sight was not tall enough. I could not adjust with the rear sights low enough to adjust for the high shooting. It already had a rail so the best thing I could do get a red dot for it too.

@TheNewHuntersGuide 5 дней назад

It's amazing how much a red dot can help a gun recover from poor iron sight.

@craigflaa8760 День назад

Excellent!

@TheNewHuntersGuide 16 часов назад

Thanks!

@jeffbarris8172 5 дней назад

Hey George, God bless you and go get them in the marsh

@TheNewHuntersGuide 5 дней назад

Thanks so much Jeff!

@Snailz5 5 дней назад

Great video George. I’m always one to recommend copper projectiles and Hornady makes a Leverevolution copper load that may be worth trying. Still hunting gives you many quick, reactionary shots where your best shot can straight at the shoulder of s hard quartering to deer and I’d rather not have a lead bullet turn that all into bloodshot waste.

@TheNewHuntersGuide 5 дней назад

So how does the copper bullet result in less bloodshot waste?

@Snailz5 20 часов назад

@@TheNewHuntersGuide Pretty well documented observation of how copper bullets perform. I'd guess it's because there isn't a bunch of small to microscopic shards of material spewing off the projectile into the surrounding tissues, but I'm not 100% on that. Even fragmenting copper bullets don't typically make much bloodshot. It can accumulate in the interstitial layers beween muscles, but I've shot square through several soulders where there's almost no meat loss beyond what the projectile itself removed.

@theloneoutdoorsman 5 дней назад

Nice setup. I have a model 94 myself but a top eject though I use a screw on scope mount with a 3-9x40 but don't shoot over 100 yards. Though sometimes I've thought of just using a setup like this though not sure the mount would work on top eject as it's made for the angle eject.

@TheNewHuntersGuide 5 дней назад

Mounts are tricky for these guns. Took me more time to find this mount than anything else with the test. If you have a scope mount you could probably use it with another optic. Just read all the fine print lol

@hoffpbass 3 дня назад

Will that rail work on a pre-64 Model 94? Yours looks pretty modern compared to mine.

@TheNewHuntersGuide 2 дня назад

It's all going to depend on what holes you have drilled. I'd contact the company.

@newscoulomb3705 5 дней назад

I've been kitting out my Marlin 336 with red dot as well, but it has a much easier mounting option directly on the receiver. It's definitely a 1 MOD rifle, but unfortunately, I need to get it down to a 1 MOC rifle. Those buggers are getting Wyllie.

@TheNewHuntersGuide 5 дней назад

How far you usually hunting with it?

@newscoulomb3705 5 дней назад

@@TheNewHuntersGuide For this one, 125 yards is probably the longest shot I'd take. Most are 75 yards or less.

@daultonhuskey2804 4 дня назад

Thanks!

@TheNewHuntersGuide 4 дня назад

Thank you!

@KHANPHOTO1 5 дней назад

You should really run the same test during the last half hour of the day when you can legally hunt. Rifle is fine, as good as any other for woods deer but low light will really show you the difference between a red dot and a low power 1x3, 4, 5, 6 or a fixed 4x. You won't realize how much you lose in low light until you experience it. Setup your target without the white background and compare. Don't even need to use the lever action.. Just my experience. Love your shotgun videos

@TheNewHuntersGuide 5 дней назад

Well, I don't think I'll be hunting on foot in the woods during the last 30 minutes of legal shooting light. It's hard to see anything when you're walking and it's that dark. No optics are good in the dark under canopy. Your eyes don't work too good either lol.

@KHANPHOTO1 4 дня назад

@@TheNewHuntersGuide If you want to take more than one gun great, but I take one gun and the start of the hunt usually begins on stand in morning at first light, then still hunting during day and ends on stand at intersection till end of legal light. Not saying to shoot in dark but they lose so much during any low light situation at distance. I have used the same setup but 44mag and noticed the issue and now use 1x3x and just as fast. Keep up the videos. Best wishes.

@Windwalker_Outdoors 4 дня назад

Shotkam got a flash sale going on

@TheNewHuntersGuide 4 дня назад

I ordered one! Scheduled to deliver on Tuesday. Wish I would have done it sooner. I was on the fence about throwing all in to get a fancier shotgun but decided not to, wouldn't do as much to improve the channel as the shotkam. What settings do you recommend for ducks in flight?

@Windwalker_Outdoors 3 дня назад

@TheNewHuntersGuide Awesome! You'll love it. It's also a great training tool. You'll see your mistakes, stopping swing, cheek not on stock (shooting high). There's an app you connect to to sight it in so the dot,cross hairs are exactly where you aim. There are different settings for different things....the one you want is flying birds. You can adjust playback speed so the video is slower or faster when you play it back..Shotkam has a series of videos on You Tube to help you set it up. Can't wait to see it on your channel. If you have questions, feel free to ask.

@TheNewHuntersGuide 2 дня назад

@@Windwalker_Outdoors Thanks!

@dondgc2298 День назад

@@TheNewHuntersGuideI’ll be looking forward to Shotkam videos!

@Macdaddy22713 5 дней назад

If shots are within 50 yards why not use a slug gun?

@TheNewHuntersGuide 5 дней назад

The rifle had a much flatter trajectory which gives you more margin of error at various ranges. But if you already have a slug gun use it.

@mrsmith9079 5 дней назад

Why the cut at 8:57?

@TheNewHuntersGuide 5 дней назад

I shot this video months ago. I have no idea. Most likely I stood there staring at the camera for 30 seconds thinking about what I was about to do and didn't feel like everyone wanted to watch dead air.

@mrsmith9079 4 дня назад

@@TheNewHuntersGuide Sounds like me most mornings