Redrafting the Worst NBA Draft of All Time | Bill Simmons’s Book of Basketball 2.0 | The Ringer 

Dan Asovski why though ?lol it’s like they should make these into an app that helps me sleep

Holy shit, I thought I was the only one. I've used Bill Simmons' podcast the last 4 days since I ran into this on youtube to fall asleep. Serious.

All the time brother!

Lmao facts

ahaha yeeeeah man same here

Best line of this entire series. What a draft class!

thats fine but is he a top 12 player of all time?

And clippers tickets

😂😂

Draw 4 that one year there were exciting to watch lol

But they weren't any good

why did bill forget wade bosh and lebron also went off in game 5 of the 2012 finals?...the thunder were done..miller going off put a knife in the thunder but that series was over anyways in 5 regardless if he hit 4 or 7 threes...4 is not that many for a role player...7 is but they won so easily so...without him it may come down to one shot but miami wins cause harden was off

This is so fucking boring. I was literally falling asleep listening to this.. 🤦‍♂️

"Real fans," you mean people with nothing better or productive to do with their time than to rewirte history as a hypothetical?

@@razkable zz, ccx ,,,joxo

I wish they would do the rest of the 1990's

It tells you what he thinks about Rusillo

on NBA2k he wouldn't even have the break starter with those lame passes of the rebound Joel Przybilla zero badge player . funny thing is he was actually a good backup and replacement starter I think in 08 its funny I am playing NBA2k my team and them having Miles as a 81 and 88 overall makes sense cuz it's all fastbreak stuff and everybody type of game on here is just like get the tallest fastest gut come off picks and dunk it

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deshawn srevenson had a better career than speedy claxton...

He’s a quintessential mid 2000s big white guy who takes up space and gets rebounds. That player basically doesn’t exist anymore in modern NBA.

mike miller was a better shooter...I take him..sorry hedo ….

hedo in 2007 2008 and 2009 was a real asset...like he legit could ball those 3 years....he was like a minny melo with better passing

Yea Mike Miller was never THE guy on any team he was on. Had to run offense for him whereas Hedo could handle the ball and pass so you can (and they did) run offense THROUGH him. Good pick by Ryen.

He's also someone that translates very well to where the sport was heading

That’s what guys like White Chocolate brought to the table. Sure, the advanced stats shit on guys like that, but they bring fun to the table, which can be overlooked when it comes to how much you enjoy watching the game.

@@julianbell9161 It's art as much as competition. Pippen's 15 ft bank shots were pure poetry. So smooth.

@@julianbell9161The biggest example of this is Allen Iverson and in the NFL, the power back Jerome Bettis. Two players who provided things when you break things down, but nowadays everyone downplays because their efficiencies weren’t very good.

when eddie house is the best point guard of your draft you know its a shit draft the worst of the modern age....keyon dooling is the 3rd best point guard of this draft...marko jaric who wasn't even drafted is 2nd imo at his peak

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No no no he had league pass lol

Lol. He keep dropping the line.

Wait emo lebron would he go white face like sammy Sosa's then?

Especially the 05-06 Clippers who almost made the West Finals…

Nowadays long twos aren’t taken often (Steph Curry has shot about 60 of them his career so far for instance), and often shots from that range are with basically no time on the clock such as in the final four recently.

swift was not trash ..he was a poor mans younger josh smith...I can't believe speedy dooling joel were picked ahead of swift and deshawn

And Brian Cardinal was also on that Mav roster

Stevenson really got good when he was in Washington. But especially when he left Utah

Same I'm surprised

@dannytallmage2409 your perception.

Pretty much until the 2003 draft yeah. Then it was rookies who were stars from the start (Darko excluded for obvious reasons).

For context... The 1996 class was so deep the undrafted player had 5 All NBA teams and 6 All defensive team selections by himself.

@@zaxx29 2001 and 2002 drafts were alright

@@TheShadow84 The 1996 was one of the best classes ever, but FWIW Wallace likely would have gone undrafted most years. Nobody knows for certain what any of these guys are going to eventually become, but you do look for certain skills and physical tools. All anybody knew about Wallace on draft day was that he was a 6-7 body who couldn't shoot or finish in traffic. He played at a Division II school and didn't dominate that either. Now, Charles Oakley played at the same school, and Dennis Rodman went to a school nobody ever heard of, and those guys went on to careers as great rebounders and defenders, but before that, they were 25 ppg scorers against low level college competition. Wallace was a 13 ppg scorer against a lesser field. If all you know about a prospect is that he was unimpressive in Division II and can't finish, you're not going to stake your job on him.

@@75aces97 Which makes his HOF resume so much more impressive. I'm from Detroit and was pissed when Grant Hill left. It was a game in the fall of 2000 against the 76ers where Iverson had Ben Wallace checking him at the 3 point line. Iverson crossed him nicely, got to the rim to lay it up then.....SWAT....I never seen a " big man" recover that fast in life. I was sold. Forgot about Grant Hill and 4 DPOYS and a Championship later history was written.

Yes because he was a better fit in international play where he was not an undersized 4. In the NBA he was too small to be a 4 and did not have the skills to play the 3. In PR league he was awesome.

I think fizer and swift were better at their peak than dooling speedy pryzbilla or house for sure...maybe mo pete and darius as well ….I honestly can't believe swift was left off the board...i'm shocked

Eddie house should've went around 11 or 12

@@razkable Fizer was not better than anything at his peak unless his peak was in high school or while he was playing in Turkmenistan

Eddie House almost lead his high school team to the z state Finals his senior year (his team beat this team in the sectional finals, so they were the number one seed)

People hate to hear the truth

He's one of those dudes who looked so cool playing and made such flashy plays that people overrated him. The substance didn't match the flash

Pete Wong still played 18 seasons 🤷🏾‍♂️a lot of guys in his draft class and classes after him out the league within 5 years.

@@Kirbystare1992 But there are still some players who peaked a little better than he did.

@@calebdouglas7622 obviously lol

I saw him play in his prime in LA. The only person I have seen with better handles was Kobe.

Sounds like a serviceable scoring punch off the bench, but not much more. The fact that he’s arguably the best non all star in this class says a lot about how weak it was.

Real the west of the 2000s had a ton of parity minus the 2 clear best teams

00’s was interesting in my opinion.

Me too. Like when they went in on A.I. I think they fail to account for heart/killer instinct for some of these guys. Hard to measure that or the real impact some of them have.

Exactly

@@chrismoseley349 dude what killer instinct did Carford have. His entire career he played for junk teams.

@@ananthshreya Cold blooded shooter, never afraid to take the last shot, and never afraid to take it to the best players in general. Has some clutch shots and game winners under his belt. Also, Clippers were a solid team.

Same

well , 3pt are the most important thing in the game today. so of course you would take that stat into account the most if you want to project them in todays game.

@@eicheldrei7408 false. You analytic weirdos have destroyed the game

@@elbowgang9715 no its not false . its a fact. The 3 Point shot is the most important in todays game . No arguing that per analytics, and if you dont wanna take analytics into account which shot revolutionized the game this decade . oh right the 3 point shot . what was potnetially the best team ever : The warriors ? what did they shot a lot of 3 ? i dont like the 3 point hsot but please dont try to argue when what ur saying is bullshit

@@eicheldrei7408 not really the most important thing but I get you. Game today is all about spacing ang efficiency so it is important.

Also most of the players are role players. And you want your role players to be a good role players. And most role players’ important stat is 3pt shot.

Jailbrazers were built different

Been a Knicks fan since 93 and only twice has my favorite player been there. Spree and Melo

Been a Knicks fan since 93 and only twice has my favorite player been there. Spree and Melo

@Chi Sun it should be based on talent...if we are just drafting guys to bad teams for the most part and they are expected not to flop some dudes went to good teams and thus developed did not flop cause of that so to me i would draft based on talent....guys i know can carry my team or help me win not guys who hung around a long time or can do one skill well or had a great year once...give me talent all day

Both > House

M Haynes exactly! Couldn’t even bring up him going up against LeBron

The argument could be made that deshawn Stevenson won that beef cus he won a title over LBJ on the Dallas team

Rob D I would agree

This draft was mostly "who cares?"

Top 3 in order hedo, redd, Crawford. Than a huge drop off

yeah there was about 8 real starters in this draft....its pretty sad...1 guy who could lead a team in scoring and to the playoffs alone in redd...no one else was a true first option on a good team...k mart was a solid 2nd option at his peak but he was never a 20 ppg guy an crawford may score 20 but you team is 26-56 so...good luck with that...after richardson you have a couple psuedo startersin mason and stevenson...house was never a real starter imo even when he started games totally not worth playing more than 24 minutes...he was never a 34 minute a game pg same for deshawn and mason heck you can even say q rich

cuz he sucked

Tbh I forgot too until I read yo comment

Man frfr! Crawford literally had a 20 year NBA career and was a 3-time 6th man of the year award winner. They talking about him like he was low key a bum SMH

@@Riles3152 Not a bum. Just a volume scorer who didnt do anything else.

Honestly winning several 6th MOY awards just tell me you ain't that good all around to be a starter. I always take into account who the coach is because Manu didn't win it because he would start some games because Pop was a game to game coach, but if you have a season-rotation coach and next season you still on the bench you lack something important.

@@ralphmorales3692 Man winning the 6th man of the year multiple times is nothing to dismiss. Everybody has a role to play. Not everybody is meant to be a superstar or even a #2 or #3 type guy. Jamal found his niche as instant buckets off the bench, just like Lou Williams. Just like Vinny "Microwave" Johnson, and turned that into a 20 year career. He did something incredibly RIGHT to be able to stick around for that long.

They don’t talk anymore

Ritvik Dutta why

@@abihamal7874 it has Kyrie, Klay, Kawhi, Kemba, Jimmy butler, Tobias Harris, Vucevic, Isaiah Thomas, Valencuenis. Just a magnificent crop of talent

Ritvik Dutta damnnn can’t wait!

more like klay thompson

Underrated point. When the NBA put in the rookie sakary scales, players wanted to get their first 4 NBA years over with, so instead coming out one year early, they came out after 1 year. Then when teams didn't hesitate to draft super raw talent, players said screw it, and skipped college entirely. Then it was just a matter of time before classes were fished out.

Hedo was a stud until he got to TOR... The yr he went to the finals he led the NBA in 4th quarter scoring. He was absolutely underrated. Poor man's Luka imo.

I was a HUGE fan of his at the time...spent a lot of money on his cards and jerseys and such. Dude had so much potential.

He’s also right when he said it’s not on RU-vid. I typed “the life, clippers” and nothing came up.

Great comp

Minus the shooting

Didn't have the work ethic or the drive to be better than Siakim has

Even in Denver. :) Kmart nets was ballin