Regrets from 60 Days Building A Pedalboard (Strymon Iridium/Walrus Audio/Boss MS-3)

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60 days of building a pedalboard, and I have regrets! Learn from my mistakes!
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2:32 Day 7 - Assembly
6:02 Regret 1
6:59 Day 10 - Problems
7:58 Day 25 - More problems
9:20 Day 45 - Light at the end of the tunnel
12:58 Regret 2 and Day 60
14:58 Lessons learnt
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@anthonygroves16 4 месяца назад

This is so good Justin! Not many people talk about the headaches and the time it takes to really learn your gear. It’s not as easy as slapping a bunch of pedals together and it sounds amazing. Even just trying to copy settings from pedals you see on stages from Bethel and Elevation. You gotta really sit down, and find the settings that work for your rig. This is great bro 🙌🏼

@AllAboutWorshipGuitar 4 месяца назад

Thanks bro! Coming from a pedal master like yourself, I’m humbled! Even the slightest change in a pedal upstream can cause a cascade of changes downstream. That’s one of the things I’m still wrapping my head around, LOL.

@sundaytone 4 месяца назад

You put a lot of work into that! I think I finally have all the components (hopefully) for my big board build. Going to try to assemble it this weekend - wish me luck!

@AllAboutWorshipGuitar 4 месяца назад

Whoa! I’ve been following your Instagram, I’m excited to see the progress of the build! I know you’re gonna crush it.

@helldeirch 4 месяца назад

I bought my pedals one by one and built the pedalboard when it got many, that's why I didn't get disappointed by the sound, I already knew how they sounded

@AllAboutWorshipGuitar 4 месяца назад

Me too, actually. I had bought the various parts of the rig in separate batches. The MS-3 and Iridium were on the same board before. The Walrus Audio and Pigtronix pedals were added later (in other boards). So I knew how the Iridium/MS-3 combo worked, this video chronicled all of them being put together.

@HeyWorshipLeader 4 месяца назад

I really enjoyed watching this, Justin. Thanks for just being real

@AllAboutWorshipGuitar 4 месяца назад

Thanks for watching! It’s an honour to have you stop by! :D

@soulscollector81 4 месяца назад

Multi-Fx is very versatile and one can get almost endless tones( who need that many anyway). I started with fx but once i go to individual pedal set up, a mixed of digital n analog, i don't think i can go back full fx anymore at the moment. Mainly is the feels of playing on your fingers. Not a full time career musician but having the appropriate rig can make playing very enjoyable. Most boutique pedals like Strymon are good for realistic reason- quality sound . How the effects go thru the amp and flow thru the atmosphere.... Good clip you'd make and thank you.

@AllAboutWorshipGuitar 4 месяца назад

There is a level of simplicity from multi fx that I do miss especially when troubleshooting something wrong on the board. I could be tweaking and jamming instead of pulling out a bad patch cable.

@lagoonschool 4 месяца назад

Hi Justin, just sumbled upon your youtube channel. Thank-you for this info and yes we can certainly head off in directions that may not help but make things more challenging. I have tried to keep things as simple as possible ? 1965 fender deluxe reverb amp, moor re-echo, strymon cloudburst, boss waxa blues driver, boss chorus, boss dd 5 delay, boss tuner, mxr dyna comp compression and my favorite distoration mesa throttle box. In church I swap ou the fender tube amp with a Katana head to ensure I'm at a volume that works for the setting. Cheers and continue on Worshipping our Lord while promoting the Gospel of Christ.

@AllAboutWorshipGuitar 4 месяца назад

Hi there, thanks for stopping by! I love the simplicity of mono signal paths into a single amp. Cool rig you have! That Blues Driver and Throttle Box combination sounds unique and flexible!

@stevenbatke2475 4 месяца назад

I’ve been collecting pedals for a good 20 years now. I find I can only take on one new pedal at a time. It has to play nicely with the other friends on the playground, otherwise I don’t keep it.

@AllAboutWorshipGuitar 3 месяца назад

My situation is like a new apartment complex opening up and all the kids meet at the playground for the first time. And then realising they’re stuck cause their parents need to live here for a while (in Singapore we have something called a Minimum Occupancy Period which is 5 years for new housing projects).

@guitarspeakpodcast1383 4 месяца назад

Love the honesty in this video! As a side note, the MS 3 is an excellent midi controller in its own right and pairs brilliantly with a HX stomp.

@AllAboutWorshipGuitar 4 месяца назад

Thank you! Indeed it is! I did have a setup with the MS-3 on my HX Stomp board, and have used it to control tap tempo and toggle a myriad of effects bypass.

@trebleboost7 4 месяца назад

Excellent video Justin! So very ambitious to do an ‘all at once with mostly new pedals’ build. I took an attitude early on to introduce a pedal at a time and find that even adding one pedal can change the ecosystem of the board. But, it does create a bit of a ‘Tetris’ task. Lovely to see your wife and her helping with the unboxing. My wife - “OK, what black box did you buy now”. Doesn’t help that I am a keyboardist and recordist too. I am almost done, right?

@AllAboutWorshipGuitar 4 месяца назад

Haha, they were technically bought in different batches, and I've played around them in different boards. The Walrus and Pigtronix on a PT Nano actually rocks with a live amp! But I do agree that even one pedal makes a big change.

@andrewegmuller2179 День назад

I found this video because I'm currently looking for clues on how to improve the sound of my rig, where the MS-3 and the Strymon Iridium are the core elements, like on your pedalboard. And also like you, I'm unhappy with the sound of it. The Strymon Iridium as standalone unit sounds awesome. But as soon as I integrate it in one of the MS-3 Loop it looses a lot of its brilliance and I also notice some digital noise in some patches. Most likely this occurs because the output signal of the Iridium is too hot for the MS-3. Thus, I would really like to hear more of your insights regarding the Strymon Iridium 🙂 Right now I plan to put the Iridium at the very end of my signal chain, to see (hear!) if that improves anything. I guess in this kind of setup it would be useful, if the Iridium had a dedicated FX loop.

@robbarker9878 4 месяца назад

If visual sound before the rebrand counts as "so old" we are in trouble... Sincerely, Your fellow millennial...

@AllAboutWorshipGuitar 4 месяца назад

You're the only other person I've met so far (other than my band mates) who knows True Tone's first brand name!

@GuitarWorkshop 4 месяца назад

Thank you. Great video and deep insights. Really appreciate your detailed explanations.

@AllAboutWorshipGuitar 4 месяца назад

Thank you for watching and for the kind words! Hope you got something of value from it!

@mikemattingly5825 4 месяца назад

This video has been like my whole guitar playing career. 😅

@AllAboutWorshipGuitar 4 месяца назад

And if we are all honest, that’s all of us!

@MattCrill 4 месяца назад

Great video...lot of work...really makes me glad I have my Helix. 😀

@AllAboutWorshipGuitar 4 месяца назад

Thank you! Oh yes that certainly makes things easier. But the time saved goes into endless tweaking and block moving!

@craigspicer9518 4 месяца назад

Same.

@AlecBourneMidiMadScientist 4 месяца назад

Great video, really enjoyed watching this.

@AllAboutWorshipGuitar 4 месяца назад

Thank you for watching! It was enjoyable putting this together!

@SurviveTheDay 4 месяца назад

Great video with detailed analysis of your journey. I too kind of regret building my Temple Audio board. It’s amazing that everything is modular, but my Helix Rack + Controller does so much more and sounds just as good as the real pedals, even my over priced Strymon pedals.

@AllAboutWorshipGuitar 4 месяца назад

Thank you for the kind words! Whoa, Helix Rack and Controller, that’s a cool rig! Any other rack effects you’re using with that?

@JeffHendricks 4 месяца назад

The Walrus Slotva is LEGIT. Love that thing.

@AllAboutWorshipGuitar 4 месяца назад

What a vibe, right!? It takes modulation reverb to a whole new level.

@gerald5175 4 месяца назад

Currently building my first board. Very very simple in comparison to the Mount Everest that you undertook. I'm primarily an acoustic guitar based Christian artist. I'm starting with a Radial PZ-Pre, Fishman afx acoustiverb, Fishman afx echoback delay, Fishman afx bluechorus, LR Baggs Session...and then I debated about the HX Stomp or the Ampero Stomp and went with the Ampere because of the sheer horsepower and I really like the tones from it. It gave me the option to do the occasional full electric worship sound when I occasionally do it. The great thing about the fishman pedals is the effects don't land on the acoustic tone. It's almost as if they land beside it. I have really great handmade acoustic guitars that sound amazing so I really liked that idea. The PZ Pre is a go to preamp for a lot of the major acoustic finger style guitar players so that was a no brainer. Thanks so much for this video. It was a great reminder that everything is a process. Peace...

@AllAboutWorshipGuitar 4 месяца назад

Thanks for sharing your setup! I've never explored gear catered for acoustic guitar, as I'm primarily an electric guitarist. Sounds like an equally deep rabbit hole to deep dive into!

@nball461 3 месяца назад

Just got the iridium and also getting a lot of fuzz/mush running only one or two drives into it so would love to hear your thoughts/a video on how to best set that up (I wasn’t getting any fuzz running up to three drives into my valve amp!)

@AllAboutWorshipGuitar 3 месяца назад

Which amp model are you using on the Iridium? This pedal is a lot more finnicky than others, but I wonder if it's a matter of the particular amp they modelled which doesn't have high headroom, or the speaker circuit doesn't play nice with stacked drives. But indeed, that's a great video suggestion, I think I might do a deep dive on the Iridium. I have an upcoming video addressing the issue of clean gain in the system which might be useful for you, look out for that this Tuesday, 09Apr24!

@nball461 3 месяца назад

@@AllAboutWorshipGuitar thanks for the reply! Yeah I guess it’s logical but I was getting the most clipping and fuzz off the punch when adding OD in front of it, and a little when using the chime with too much gain set on the pedal and almost none with the round (it’s a lot cleaner than the others to start). Also a question I have which maybe you could include is that in the iridium manual on page4 it has some tips and tricks and one is to put time based effects after the iridium.. so my question is on stage if running it that way would I simply run the outputs of my last pedal (reverb in my case) into the DI box on stage? And would it potentially help reduce that clipping?

@davidoliver3589 4 месяца назад

I love this video. I have been through some of the problems you have and it’s comforting to know I’m not alone! I cant play to your standard, but I love playing! I tried the boss line selector once but I found it stole tone. I lost highs and felt like a blanket was pulled over my amp. Could you use the tuner in its own loop so you get rid of the boss pedal? May help clean things up. Just a thought.

@AllAboutWorshipGuitar 4 месяца назад

Thanks for watching, and thank you for the suggestion! I might just ditch both the LS-2 and the tuner since the MS-3 has a tuner too. Someone else also suggested limiting the pedal chain in the effects loop of the MS-3.

@TheG7thcapo 4 месяца назад

My rig is revstar rs502 plugged into a fender micro to a bose companion 20. Works well for me🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉

@AllAboutWorshipGuitar 3 месяца назад

A simple but effective rig as long as it meets your needs!

@demilademoses5515 4 месяца назад

I think your biggest problem was that you ran 2 drives, mono delay and reverb into the iridium and then ran that mono into the fx loop of the boss which makes everything mushy and thin. It would've been better if you had the walrus stuff sent into the boss then a stereo verb from the boss to "glue" everything together stereo into the front end of the iridium and ran that to the line isolator

@AllAboutWorshipGuitar 4 месяца назад

Those are great suggestions, thank you! I’ll need to get a TRS-TS Y cable for that since the Iridium needs TRS for stereo input.

@saltstream 4 месяца назад

Love the video. Can you use the aux output on the Dunlop straight into the tuner and do away with the Boss line selector? A stereo reverb or delay into the Iridium at the end of the chain would be better than the mono stuff IMHO.

@AllAboutWorshipGuitar 4 месяца назад

I can actually do away with the tuner since the Boss MS-3 has one but its display only really works indoors. I do want to try it though, haha.

@YEEZUS4LIFE 4 месяца назад

Question, how do get rid of snapshots on pod go? because it’s annoying having to click multiple times to switch to a different preset

@AllAboutWorshipGuitar 4 месяца назад

You can't get rid of them, but you can have some workarounds. If you have a two-button aux switch, you can configure that to do Preset Up/Down. Or, if you can live with 4 footswitches instead of 6 in FS mode, you can configure FS mode to 4 switches and have the Up/Down switches configured to Preset Up/Down.

@zachjarrett8730 4 месяца назад

Have you tried running an isolated power supply? Under powering mA hungry digital fx is going to have a cost on the clarity. You are asking a high quality DAC to run starved. And we know this extends to analog circuits as well. Sometimes those artifacts are desirable for an analog pedal, but not always; certainly not with a pedal converting you signal both ways (A/D - D/A). The iOS power is not just about noise. Even though you are getting a better result, you should take the time to audition the difference.

@AllAboutWorshipGuitar 4 месяца назад

That’s an interesting info tidbit, I’m not sure if I can tell there’s power-starving, indeed I will have to try it with an isolated power supply. I have one on my smaller Mono board, will have to try!

@alexforget 4 месяца назад

Valeton gp-100 for IR and most things Zoom G1X for delays, reverbs, chorus, noise gate, looper, tuner, etc. Total 250$

@AllAboutWorshipGuitar 4 месяца назад

And those two cover an impressive array of gear needs! I'm totally going to see if I can get a whole of the Valeton...

@JediObiDave 4 месяца назад

Strymon Iridium video would be awesome.

@AllAboutWorshipGuitar 4 месяца назад

I'll put it in the pipeline!

@13aphomet 4 месяца назад

Are the volumes on the LS2 supposed to be turned all the way down like that? I think noon is unity gain isn't? Prolly wouldn't hurt to throw an ep booster or 29 pedals euna type thing at the front to fight muddiness and mush..

@AllAboutWorshipGuitar 4 месяца назад

When used purely as an A/B box, the volume control is bypassed so it doesn’t matter where the knobs are set. I might just get rid of the LS-2 and the tuner, actually, since the MS-3 also has a tuner!

@trebleboost7 4 месяца назад

@@AllAboutWorshipGuitar the ES8 has a tuner out that I connect a Polytune to. Does the MS3?

@AllAboutWorshipGuitar 4 месяца назад

No the MS-3 has a built-in tuner, accessed by long-pressing the memory mode switch. It’s decent, but with that calculator screen it’s quite hard to read in sunlight.

@mtguitar5150 4 месяца назад

Yes oh boy please do an Iridium video. Are you EQing the Iridium heavily with anything?

@AllAboutWorshipGuitar 4 месяца назад

It's in the pipeline! Nope, all EQ is from the stock tone stack. Majority of the EQ is from the choice of IR, which at the moment is the old sampler pack from WT.

@lastreagandemocrat 4 месяца назад

Mo' pedals, mo' problems.

@AllAboutWorshipGuitar 4 месяца назад

True that!

@musicafteroldage 4 месяца назад

Well, I’ve never had those issues with my Valeton GP-100 hehehe

@alexforget 4 месяца назад

exactly, still 100's of things in that multi-fx. The only thing missing is a few footswitch and a bigger screen.

@AllAboutWorshipGuitar 4 месяца назад

I guess I know what multi-fx I'm going to try next!

@musicafteroldage 4 месяца назад

@@AllAboutWorshipGuitar haha in all seriousness, it's like $100 USD but, even owning the Helix, I kept going back to it (I am old and lazy I guess?) But, like I always say, the most important thing is the mix. In the mix, it's very difficult to tell nowadays if you are using a a $100 multi-fx or a $200K Dumble ¯\_(°°)_/¯

@AllAboutWorshipGuitar 4 месяца назад

The folks like us might be able to tell, or the one bona fide producer/mix engineer in the congregation (1 in 1000?). The difference between a $20 and $200 pedal is discernible, but beyond that from $500 to $5k, it really is splitting hairs in the details!

@DrBadLlama 4 месяца назад

I've changed stuff so often, but GAS has bit me a couple times, where I regret selling stuff I had because something new and shiny came out. Often that gear is cool, but not for us. Amp tone is first and foremost for me though. I went through a few amp sounds before I landed an what I have now (UA Lion and Ruby using a parallel blender) and I'm very please with the base amp tone.

@trebleboost7 4 месяца назад

That is an intruiging setup.

@AllAboutWorshipGuitar 4 месяца назад

This is the first time I've heard of a parallel blend of dual UA pedals! Do you have the option of making them run in stereo L/R?

@DrBadLlama 4 месяца назад

@@AllAboutWorshipGuitarYes. I run drives, modulation and wet fx into the GFI duophony then send that signal out to my Lion and Ruby then back into the pedal where I run either a preset output blend of 80% Ruby/20% Lion for cleaner tones or a preset of 80% Lion /20% Ruby for heavier rhythm or lead. So the output for both left and right run whatever mix I'm sending so imagine it's full stereo within each output channel. It sounds huge. You can also output one loop to left and the other loop to right. It also works great if you want to run all drives and modulation into the duophony and put your delay in one loop and the reverb in the other to use presets to set the mix of reverb and delay hitting the amps after the blender.

@anthony_shay 4 месяца назад

You: 4 pedals Wife: huh?? How come so many? 😂

@AllAboutWorshipGuitar 4 месяца назад

And I can’t hide new pedals cause she can tell based on shape and colours!

@anthony_shay 4 месяца назад

@@AllAboutWorshipGuitarJustin, I’ve been watching your videos for a while now and they are great. Really enjoy them! I’m a fellow guitar player and worship leader at my church in California. I’ve been using Helix since 2018. Never had pedals and after watching your experience I don’t think I ever want to mess with one either lol.

@caged7tiger 4 месяца назад

Seems like you didn’t do any research and jumped in feet 1st… definitely would have stayed away from daisy chaining all those pedals 2. Under using the boss m3 and 3 what kinda of cables you used to connect the pedals…

@AllAboutWorshipGuitar 4 месяца назад

1) I did, even calculating the power requirements to ensure the pedals don't exceed the One Spot. Bob Weil has gone on record to say you can try powering modern digital pedals, some won't have the usual digital noise. It was exciting to learn the Iridium doesn't have that problem. 2) Yup I'll admit it's under-utilised. It sometimes lives on my HX Stomp board where I use MIDI control to change parameters on the Stomp, swap pedals out, etc. 3) Rockstock patch cables! The best I've experienced!

@crock2434 4 месяца назад

1 spot for all that? Get an ISO PSU...

@AllAboutWorshipGuitar 4 месяца назад

It was an experiment. As it is with all boards, there’s the process of tearing everything up and then redoing. I have a CIOKS DC7 on my smaller board which I might experiment with next time!