REL Acoustics Carbon Limited Subwoofer Review w/ Upscale Audio's Kevin Deal

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This limited edition product is no longer available. However, the REL S/5 SHO, or 212 SE, or G1 Mk II are all viable options. Call and speak to a sales specialist for the perfect sub for your system.
A REL subwoofer is about so much more than bass--it transforms the dynamics and scale and immersiveness of your system. The Carbon Unlimited is a giant-killing hybrid of the S/5 SHO with parts from the G1 Mk II and the 212 SE. Get a pair now--this is truly a limited run.

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@rickym.5271 5 лет назад

Adding a subwoofer to any system increase the dynamics of the audio. Plus it gives the audio more impact and authority. Its like pepper for audio.

@HowIsThat69 5 лет назад

Ricky M. Its just damn hard to integrate prober in a stereo setup

@maincharacter2677 4 года назад

Or you could say it's salt too. You can taste it more.

@HermesTrismegistes369 3 года назад

This guy could sell you sand in the middle of the desert! I've bought speakers from his store before, pretty cool 🤘🏼🤘🏼

@jeronunkoffunk9437 3 года назад

Wow, hey Kevin thanx a million, I've been seeing and learning a lot more about subs, and consistently I'm hearing great things about REL subs. But you broke it down on the absolutely undeniable fact about subs I see many don't believe understand. It's not just about bass but it's about also improving the upper range speakers performance. But I really appreciate your advice making it known a sub is a DIFFERENT animal and should be bought by those who specialize in making them! 🙏🏾👍🏾👍🏾thank you thank you!!!

@jangofett813 5 лет назад

So happy that You re-published this awesome video again! Many thanks!!

@jerryjohnson4625 4 года назад

I have two t5i's now. Paired to Tannoy xt6f's. After adding sub #2 , it sounded twice as good ,lol, yes, fuller & richer thicker sound. Love these subs. The room is about 200 sq. Feet , so it's a small place. Still trying to find the best location, but can only move short distances with them. But I'm happy I found Kevin & the Upscale Audio gang.🎶🎶

@Steven-zg5bq 5 лет назад

I had lascalas way back in black, all one piece. they were unreal speakers, but I had to add a subwoofer, then it was perfect. I had a Mcintosh mx113 preamp and a 250watt adcom amp. I sold this because my house was too small. so I bought a bigger house. just went to listen to the new al5 lascalas, it sounded muffled to me. thanx to my qsc speakers with dsp I guess I got spoiled over the years. I listened to the new klipshorn ak6 and was so impressed I bought them, no sub needed folks, also no corners needed , thanx to the enclosed new design. my amp is the nad 3800 solid state.....I liked this better than the Mcintosh 7200. and a hi end tube amp. I got a basement full of cds to play, when I get done with that I will subscribe to tidal hi def radio, sounds awesome. I miss my reel to reel tapes with all the meters by the way. those 10.5 inch metal reels were a sight to see, looks like its never coming back. I waited over 60 years for the Klipschorns, im ready now though.

@salmonline 5 лет назад

That glass block wall makes the sub look chrome-plated. Pretty cool.

@hatu5798 5 лет назад

You're right no matter how big and good your speakers are, they need a pairs of sub to pair with

@conduit242 Год назад

Funny, if they milled the hole for that sub from each side, they wouldn’t have the distortion of the front baffle that you can see clearly in the reflection off the gloss. Attention to detail 😉

@67spankadelik 5 лет назад

I'm extremely happy with my duel Rel S2's. Paired with Maggie 1.7. I still own my first Rel (q150) paired with Klipsch Heresys HWO's. Killer vintage combo in a 2nd system.

@wmanggrum 5 лет назад

Dual, not duel.

@genericname3600 5 лет назад

He means they're out of phase. A duel.

@rubencromeyer8043 5 лет назад

Kevin you are amazing thank you so much for your videos you post!!!

@dand86F Год назад

Hi Kevin, how is this Rel carbon special Vs. JL F112 v2 or JL F113 v2 in term of SQ, SPL, speed and dynamic in music and HT? I am looking at these models for 50/50 music & HT. Thanks.

@jangofett813 5 лет назад

Looking forward to unboxing My Carbon Limited when I be back in Sweden. Bought the last one They had. So I was lucky. Currently, I use the S/3 SHO now, and it is a fantastic sub. But I got a strong feeling that the Carbon Limited is even better. Cheers from Sweden

@greymurdock2 4 года назад

Thanks for your videos, I always learn something new

@biggstile 4 года назад

I appreciate the alternate view on purpose of sub.

@str1xt 4 года назад

I just got a pair of TAD Me1's. Whilst I do like the sound, they are missing that lower end. So when you do turn up the volume the berylium tweeter does start to come across as harsh on the start of voices. My room is 5x4. I'm in two minds to go for the t9i or the s3. So by allowing the subs to take up a lot of the lower end the speaker won't have to work so hard and the tweeter won't scratch so much. This is the right approach ?

@labalo5 4 года назад

Ive got the same speakers and are looking for similar options

@str1xt 4 года назад

@@labalo5 I have been without music for a month, a valve went and I had to wait for my man to surface to bias it. I have just set it up today and forgot how good ithey sound. I’ve put a few good hours on them since I last posted. They have broken in nice. I will,say that some recordings do sound harsh, but the majority are just great. Still using a CD player. I have purchased an Auralic g2 streamer and I’m waiting for my aes cable to come from Europe. I also pulled the trigger on a pair of Rel S/510’s. The guy knocked £400 of for the pair. I picked those up only last week. I will get them set up over the next week and see if I can integrate them in the only place they can go. Which is in between the speakers and the extra wide hifi rack which houses my tv. It’s not ideal, so I’ll be hanging the tv on the wall and shortening the rack.. I shall get back to you and tell you all about it 😃

@labalo5 4 года назад

str1xt I’m very interested to hear what you have to say as a first impression and final result. The tad me-1 are amazing. And while the argument could be made that they don’t need a sub. I will argue that a sub will overall enhance the listening experience on virtually any speaker even on pure dialog. Let me know how it goes!!

@str1xt 4 года назад

@@labalo5 Jeff Fritz at Soundstage ultra summed it up and had me sold on stereo subs reviewing these he said, “Give me an afternoon and a pair of JLA Fathom f212v2s and I have no doubt I could weave together a sound that would rival anything at any cost”. Costly subs, but after speaking to the guys at Rel I was told that the t9i would be great, but the 510’s would be head and shoulders above them. I didn’t take much convincing.

@zoltar808 5 лет назад

Wow, would love to see your dual No. 25 setup when it’s ready. What a beautiful sub!

@Mattyboy88979 2 года назад

Man the way he goes on about REL he must get some free shit, i must admit though i had a RELQ50 for over 14 years untill it died and i have just bought and REL 1208 and i got it for 449.99 pounds retail its was originaly 799.99 i am so pleased, if i didnt already have another 2 subwoofers i would have got 2 they are that good.

@philipw7058 5 лет назад

Don’t like people who think only what they sell is the absolute best,give me a break

@christopherglvz4638 5 лет назад

Nice video. Just wondering if you could tell me the particular floor stand that you have in most of your videos. Thanks

@rohanshrikhande4582 5 лет назад

End game sub right there. I have a Rel T5i with KEF LS50’s - do you recommend crossing over at 110hz for that?

@ArnoldVroomans 5 лет назад

Ask Rel themselves...probably they will advise much lower... my guess 45 Hz.

@FOH3663 5 лет назад

There are no optimal x-overs for a particular sub/speaker pairing that anyone, including REL can give you. It depends on your room dimensions, sub/sat distances from boundaries, distances from each other, seating position, etc. Measurement is a must for sub integration.

@rohanshrikhande4582 5 лет назад

Sly foxxx The t5i works really well in my mid-sized apartment. I had a larger Monitor Audio sub before, the Rel is much better IMO. It fills out the sound of the LS50’s with clean, powerful bass and gives the system a deeper soundstage. The Monitor was boomier and didn’t integrate with the speakers nearly as well. Those are the only subs I’ve had though, so not sure how the Rel compares with JL, SVS, Rythmik, etc.

@andrewcoonradt 5 лет назад

How would this compare to the JL eSub 112?

@Justwantahover 5 лет назад

REL is apparently the best, but JBL ones could be as good (@ three times the price).

@andrewcoonradt 5 лет назад

@@Justwantahover JL, not JBL. And the esub is significantly less then this custom REL, so not sure what you are even talking about.

@Justwantahover 5 лет назад

@@andrewcoonradt If you think BOSE is over priced, those horrible big fat speakers that are like 3 ft high and 4 ft wide and 2 ft deep (look like 1970's hippy speakers) are JBL's and cost like 50 grand a pair. They make a single (stereo) cabinet speaker called the Paragon at a similar price. You can buy refurbished Paragons for 50 grand. lol

@sudd3660 5 лет назад

JL subs are sealed, much better than ported or slave boxes. its like REL forgot how how to make quality stuff..... i am not forgiving them for selling their soul to make a product that will sell better and sound worse just because most people do not have a clue about sound......

@Justwantahover 5 лет назад

@@sudd3660 Sorry, I didn't read JL properly, my mistake. Is it cos the wavelengths are too long for any type of venting? Are the majority of good more expensive subs sealed?

@RumblestripDotNet 5 лет назад

The one where Kevin calls his Focal rep and pleads for them to send him some of their car audio stuff.

@jeremyphilander8833 5 лет назад

Thanks kevin.

@DriverDude100 5 лет назад

Love the analogy: Kitty Hawk vs. ISS

@kabelokenzoafrika9804 4 года назад

Alfa Romeo Giulia QV is a beast. Is your sound Harman Kardon?

@Justwantahover 5 лет назад

Do they make it cubic inside the box? Would an odd shape be better?

@FOH3663 5 лет назад

Good question The freq range being reproduced by the sub have large enough wavelengths that the cabinet shape is irrelevant. As long as the cabinet is sufficiently constructed/braced and is sized appropriately for it's design, it's all good. The energy (big wavelengths) inside the box doesn't propagate freely, the pressure simply varies relative to cone position. All that said, distortion artifacts higher in freq may have wavelengths significantly small enough to have wave propagation, but the typical internal damping material/stuffing would address that.

@Justwantahover 5 лет назад

@@FOH3663 Box too small to resonate, cos the waves are bigger than the box.

@FOH3663 5 лет назад

@@Justwantahover Correct Can't even propagate normally. The internal energy does affect the driver, but not in a way that could be addressed with angled cabinet walls etc.

@Justwantahover 5 лет назад

That, with a set of those expensive KEF Uni Q bookshelf speakers, would sound good (for 8 grand).

@RickMahoney2013 5 лет назад

I'm flying out to see your store, one day.

@duranarts 4 года назад

Save your money and time. I went, it was a really bad experience. No one will approach you and everyone is on phone calls.

@V1ralB1ack 4 года назад

Rel is not the best subwoofer brand. They're marketed as being something more than they are but they're pretty whatever... Nothing special about them... Not even their piano finishes which just jack up their prices are special. You can add that to many subs.

@MrViper7121 3 года назад

What about JL audio?

@USMcanon 3 года назад

I sold my JL and bought REL , never regretted! Try to audition REL if you can.

@sudd3660 5 лет назад

well, passive radiator is not a sound quality design. if you think otherwise tell me how its better than a sealed design. information here: rmsacoustics.nl/papers/whitepaperbassreflex.pdf

@stevenrichardson3462 5 лет назад

Are the components made in China like the old rels🤔

@frankvee 4 года назад

I think so, but China does make some kick ass stuff. They will build crap if that is what you pay them to do though, and many companies do send their production to China as ask to build it as cheap as possible. I do not think REL is in that category.

@stevenrichardson3462 4 года назад

@@frankvee you obviously haven't seen the amplifier of a rel stentor 3 and storm 3 check you tube then you will see the quality 😂 when bk electronics was making the rels they were quality but then tel decided it was cheaper to go to China they were crap and over heated fire hazard

@xanderguldie 4 года назад

Funny how the Carbon looks more like woven fiber

@kabelokenzoafrika9804 4 года назад

Alfista 4Life

@agostonberko 5 лет назад

without DSP subwoofer sucks big time.

@MrBazsi888 5 лет назад

Neil Leisenheimer even my 400€ Bowers Wilkins and entry level Neumann KH80 has DSP and makes wonders. My Genelec G5 has no DSP, sucks big time in non acoustically threated rooms. REL is a rip off and makes no sense for casual living rooms only with heavy modification of my saloon. Meridian 5200 is my goal. No need for subwoofer & amp. DSP is the key. Some Genelec model has it, which is amazing. I won't buy anything without digital signal processing. Hope Klinger Favre or ATC or BowersWilkins will introduce DSP in the future years.

@MrBazsi888 5 лет назад

@Neil Leisenheimer sometimes the equipment is in the right place. but that's most of the time just luck. DSP is like a car without ABS, it works but not up to the task if it gets serious.