Relationship Therapist cringes at DATING in TWILIGHT 

SO true.

and also, when darcy acts like an ass (1st proposal) and Elizabeth cusses him out for it, he ACKNOWLEDGES that, and TRIES TO BE A BETTER PERSON! in comparison the collins, who both denies and doubles down. it's only when darcy proves that he's made himself better, that she starts to fall for him. and by the time of the 2nd proposal, he's... not a different person, but the best version of himself. and it's only then that she accepts him

Thank you for defending P&P because i came into the comments purely for that XD

Exactly. Elizabeth is a strong character and she stands up to Darcy when he's rude.

What’s P&P?

Bojack Horseman is an amazing show

I actually had rose colored glasses but sadly they went missing

Same person who was in a coma for 30 years

Pink flags lol

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This is TOO accurate lol

😂😂😂 Why isnt she calling the police?

@@kerowyn31 because that band broke up like decades ago, my mate

​​@@AlinaAniretake🎵 Don't stand so close to me 🎵 lol

Y'know, Edward being creepy makes more sense when you think about it

@@psychek7355 petition to remake Twilight, going exactly the same except Bella sees this absolute red flag crap for what it is and ends with Edward getting arrested /j

It would have been a better movie if Twilight went in that direction.

Would've been better if they made *all* the actors play their roles with a horror angle

How old is that guy (Edward)? Pattinson got it completely right, this guy IS creepy.

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Ikr!!

@Bilge me too 😂😂

"I don't know how he's clearing some of these doorways"....... Seriously laughed so hard!!

We need this on merch

"I trust that you are a murderer". Would have been a line that changes the whole story

Idk seems kinda sus.

Understandable have a great day

Yeah I trust you to kill me

Plus he justified killing humans by because they were bad people. So why didn't he have them sent to jail? That's what him and Carlisle do in Midnight Sun. Justifying killing bad people was very strange to me.

She is holding them to totally different standards for two reasons. 1. She met both under different circumstances and thus knows Jacob as the good guy she compares him to. Edward is frozen in time, not just as a vampire, but also because she has not that much of a time frame, she has known him for. 2. Horny

Different standard cause they’re different species. Wolves aren’t here to kill people. For a vampire it’s food.

Attraction trumps a lot of things. I was once given a reason for rejection which suddenly was not a problem for her with the next guy.

Well I think if he told her he's killing people right now, she'd tell him to stop too... But yeah she's neglecting what he has done because vampires are cool™

@@100percentep I would argue no. She would find something to make it seem alright. Like women find excuses for their partners actively mistreating them and pulling all other sortsa of bullshit.

Lol 😂

And then he ended up being Batman

Bella x therapy would've been great

Especially in New Moon.

@@bigolsimp9423 bella x not ugly facial expressions when interacting with Edward, wouldve been better

I am Bella. I need therapy 💀

@@kathycastillo388 well... considering the world we are living in... dont we all need need therapy?

I don't know. That sounds like what a good person would say.

RIGHT

Some people that say that honestly tend to be reasonable people, maybe so reasonable that they've been hard-core gaslit their whole lives by parents with issues. They're just coming to age, coming into their own and they're just now starting to know that they can break free of that mentality and experience the world with their own minds.

Also some people in high school say things like that but all they’ve done is shoplift a coke

Although, if that's immediately followed up with "I've killed people", maybe a little bit of caution is warranted. XD Seriously though, it's all about context. Bella's and Edward's relationship feels weird and toxic because they've barely interacted with each other at that point.

Your mom is the MVP!

mind sharing the article link??

That is actually genious.

this is smart but the signs of abuse are usually way more extreme than Bella and Edward. Their relationship isn’t healthy but to me it seems like they’re both consenting to such a thing? they’re both into it? sure they may need some therapy but it’s not as scary and extreme as the signs in the article. Like Edward never tried to insult, yell at her, humiliate or hit her as a way to control her. he didn’t do a lot of things the articles say abusive partners do.

Smart. Way to go Mom.

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That's honestly a fair point!

yeah, with a slightly different twist they could have been a serial killer team, with her eventually elevated to equal partner at the end of the series.

Dark

I think you're nailing it. If, for some reason, you perceive the world as a dangerous place, becoming the side kick of the most dangerous being out there seems like a valid tactic. It's basically the minion instinct. However, as all movies and reality tell us, it always backfires as the evil overlord sacrifices his minions without a single thought.

Poor girl, there was no need for her to be exactly like her description in the books.

@@nightnaughty i mean she was supposed to be awkward af although i dont like twilight i do appreciate the aesthetic of the movie

@@rosavanesa2399 the personality i agree, but the physicall aspect right down to her eyes if it didn't affect the performance there was no need, except when she turns into a vampire

Actually No one wanted this FUN FACTS OF HER BLINKING, cause even though she had normal blinking ratio, that movie SUCKED. PERIOD.

I tried to wear colorful contact lenses and almost die, fuck they are SO uncomfortable, like when something's in your eye but CONSTANTLY. I know I know they're supposed to be comfy if they're ok but shit did I cry a lot

LOL. We said pretty much exactly the same thing, haha!

Sounds like a way cooler story.

Sounds WAY better and presents a message of healing after abuse and might be something that girls need to be taught

@@CinemaTherapyShow movie suggestion: Romeo & Juliet 1968

Guys I know what I’m going to do today Edit 1: ok so the end scene is actually a strong first scene for the abusive relationship plot, not so much vampires so you would rework the story in your mind. Like I started it when Bella goes down the stairs and when you watch to the end it’s like Bella has a disease or something because she keeps talking about wanting to die or live forever and her leg is broken. Or maybe he’s abusive and broke it and she’s also depressed because of him. Make your own conclusion if you watch it this way that’s the fun about it. However I’m having trouble finding the next scene. I might skip the climax bits because 1) they are way too connected for me to find a spot to pick up on 2) this movie ends at the prom and the scene before was dealing with the vampires. Trust me tho the movie seems like an indie film about abuse when you do it this way.

You sound like a great mom.

if anyone tells you they murder people, CALL THE POLICE. or really anything Edward-y

Feel like everyone knows that? I feel like people should go deeper talking about this, not just surface level “ if guy tells you they kill people, call the police”.

Yes!! I did that too. I used to be surprised that other parents •didn’t• read the books their kids were really into.

when people don't even consistently apply the obvious life lessons you can't move on to the less obvious ones.

Same

Bc she was unconditionally and irrevocably in love with Edward

Me to I hated Twilight so much, I never understood why my friends loved both the books and movies. The only good thing was how the wolf transformation was done in the movie.

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so is he 😜

Honestly, the two films I first saw her in was this and Snow White and the Huntsman. And after these two movies, I thought she had 2 expressions - confused and high (at the end of Snow White, she looks like she had a really good fart, right before credits roll?). I legit thought she was a bad actress. I didn't realize for a long time that she just suffered under terrible stories and really, REALLY bad direction. As for him? He was Cedric Diggory before he was Edward Cullen. *SHRUG*

@@Fightingforthelost honestly I liked her better in Snow White and the Huntsman but yeah. Her facial expression doesn’t change much. But her tone of voice during her speech is great. I loved it. The line “WHO WILL BE MY BROTHER?!” stuck with me.

@@Fightingforthelost Honestly, I liked him better as Cedric than Edward.

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Yas!!! Pride and Predjudice is one of my top 5 favorite movies ever! So freaking good!

@@aubreycarter7624 You should watch the series (1995), it's much better.

@@aliisahyy9269 Definitely! I love Colin Firth's and Jennifer Ehle's chemistry

@@aliisahyy9269 Yes! The 1995 mini-series is far superior and is actually faithful to the novel. It captures the Jane Austen spirit. Firth and Ehle's chemistry is more unaffected and natural. The film, on the otherhand, is _way_ too hammy, overwrought, and pretentious for my liking.

That's damn sad.

Great insight

And she could be a vampire, so powerful, finally something thrilling in her life

And in the books she was the one pursuing the relationship.

Yes yes very true! Make sure they are a good person from heart and not only nice to you alone!

Thank you, I can relate to this very much.

That's sweet. Now go to bed, it's a school night.

Why would someone call themselves dumb for a jerk I don't understand why 😢🤞

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Lol that ship sailed and sank

No assuming required lolllll

I mean. I assumed he was sizing her up in an attempt to intimidate her. It's still not good but that's what I assumed

I thought I was the only one who noticed!

Of course, because I know I struggle not to fall in love with my food

thats was a try on intimidating imagine amountain lion hissing to tell "you better get distance" just to scratch you anyway and he is a preditor too so to walk up taller more powerfull is a way to demonstrate how dangerous he can be ita a body lingual version of what he said

Hmm, he’s indirectly calling her an idiot lmao

That’s a good point - and possibly one he was heading towards, when he talked about “why Pride and Prejudice works, and Twilight doesn’t” In the books, we are told that her all time favourite book is “Wuthering Heights” …which is also about toxic, and abusive, relationships between the main characters! EVERY character in Wuthering Heights is an assh*le! They’re all horrible people! Heathcliff didn’t start awful, but was treated like dirt, by almost everyone. Cathy was terrible from the start - and she was only a child then. …except maybe Heathcliff’s son, and Catherine’s daughter, at the end. They might have been ok - once everyone they knew moved away, or died.

Totally

I picked up a random version of Twlight in a thrift store (those books you can always rely on to find in thrift stores cheap), and literally Stephanie Meyer said that each books was based on a famous romance novel. Twlight is based on Pride and Prejudice, but somehow, I can’t see the connection.

No amount of loneliness justifies being in a relationship with a fu*kn vampire

@@dominiquechristine you thinking like a person who probably has somewhat to good relationships with her parents. Having divorced parents is already traumatic (it really is), but then being parentified by the mother, and then the mother abandons you for a new relationship and sent to live with the absent father really would mess with either a son or a daughter. People suffering that badly get messed up, and they have really messed up internal compasses of how love is, and they sometimes/often end up with other really messed up people because that's what love has been taught to them. I've been so lonely i've been with really hurtful people out of sheer soul crushing loneliness. Seriously, i feel like you have no idea what you are talking about.

@@Anwelei You know what, I didn't really think about it that way, but you're right and you made some very good points.

@Anwelei -- A vastly under-discussed point, imo. . Bella raised herself, raised her immature and honestly (speaking as a person with ADHD; if you are one and you know it, you tend to recognize your own kind) probably undiagnosed and untreated ADHD mother, and then went to live with her once-physically still-emotionally absent father (who reads like he has chronic depression, if he's not just a victim of bad writing and the absent-parent trope needed for many YA plots to occur) in a by-then almost completely unfamiliar place. . She never had time to have fun or be a child, because she had to be the responsible adult in her household. She's deeply insecure because she knows all the way down to her bones that she has no parent to rely on for emotional comfort or physical protection or even probably financial stability. . She's confused and then flattered by having bad unhealthy attention because she's shocked and pleased to have ANY attention, but especially by some (literally) dazzling enigma of a 'boy' the likes of which nearly the entire town's worth of adolescent girls put up on a Want List pedestal. It validates her entire existence... . Until it starts to highlight how lowly and unspecial and going-to-age *human* she is in comparison. Which then needs to be cured by becoming not-human, and shiny, and special (even amongst the already-shiny), and then she'll finally be worthy!!! . (With a minor detour to satisfy Edward's demands for marriage and then quickly fulfill her purpose as a female to -- self-sacrificingly -- procreate, but without any of that pesky need to put in the hours to survive raising an infant or earn a toddler's trust and/or cooperation. THEN she'll be perfect and deserving to be drowned in riches and ease and adoration!) . ^ Totally not the harmful subconscious mentality of victims of neglect and/or abuse! Really!

@dominiquechristine -- You know, kudos for your humility and having the maturity and graciousness to own up to re-thinking your original opinion and/or argument. That's an uncommon response, especially on the internet.

Corpse: I am the imposter Literally anyone ever: I trust you. Will you watch me do medbay scan?

@@Six3r721 lmao! I don’t know why that made me laugh even more than Joanna’s joke. That low register, authoritative voice is so coaxing!

Ah yes XD the modern and kid friendly version of what they said

I literally had someone do that to me one game xD they sus i was imposter but still trusted me xD

Or you make friends with the two imposters and create a currupt system for your own elite group 😆

That was just GENIUS CASTING!

Bella: I swear to God. Edward: SWEAR TO MEEEEEEEEEEEE.

Time stamp?

@@nikopteros1659 It was on the other vid after this.

@@covertfeelings8330 oh ok

what do you expect from a mormon?

Also way late as a response, but I remember the books having a lot of references to Wuthering Heights, which is a toxic romance story. But that assumes the reader has also read Wuthering Heights.

Not that that's an excuse, but there was that *small* small small bit

"When you look at someone with rose colored glasses, all the red flags just look like flags" -Bojack Horseman

The actor who plays Emmett is like the only one who likes twilight

@@at12344 Really?! Why?

His hatred for Twilight is really funny but he still decided to do the films and let them make him rich. I’d honestly have more respect for him if he’d done them because he liked them, terrible as they are. Like this he just seems to lack integrity.

@@glockenrein He was most likely under contract to finish out the series?

@@kiarimarie sure but the first film is bad enough and he saw that script before he signed on. The book was also out and the film is fairly loyal to it. He knew enough before he ever agreed to be involved.

It was because she had special defensive powers. So Edward couldnt read her mind,

@@why_not_though6250 now that's lazy writing

@@why_not_though6250 No. That's just something Meyer pulled out of her ass later.

@@why_not_though6250 thats what they want you to think

seems legit

I'd actually prefer to read a story about how recovering human-bloodaholic Edward's life is thrown off kilter by meeting his "blood singer" Bella. Who, courtesy of her neglectful childhood, is a needy, insecure, walking talking emotional blackhole desperate to be wanted. Which causes her to throw herself into his path (and draw attention to him) despite his attempts to avoid her. . She sees him as the fairytale cure to her lonely, lowly human life. He sees her as one more misery foisted on him in his unending undead existence. . He gets no helpful from his hypocrit coven 'dad' Carlisle (who considers vampires damned yet made the rest of them anyway); his stepford-smiler 'mom' Esme who deals with her eternal depression by helicopter-parenting Edward; his manic-pixie narcissistic psychic 'sister' Alice or her half-feral all-resentful captive-bf, Jasper. . The only ones on his side are his coven sister Rose (whose backstory doesn't even need to be changed to fit this AU); her loyal but lunkheaded security-risk of a bf, Emmet; and the wolf-shapeshifter, Jacob, who's trying to save his childhood friend Bella from herself. . Can Edward resist the call of Bella's blood when she dogs his footsteps at school, and his prison-warden-of-a-sire insists on allowing Alice to ambush him with her new bestie in his own home? Will this temptation force him into allying with the wolves? Or will he be forced to kill (or worse, turn) Bella in order to avoid risking human discovery and thus the Volturi's vengeance?? . ...Dang, now I really want somebody to write this fanfic!

I'm pretty sure that's what Edward said about why he reacted to her the way he did when he first smelled her. He hated himself so much & then here comes Bella whose blood calls to him & now he hates himself even more bc now he wants to do what he's been trying to avoid doing forever. Then he's fascinated by her bc he can't hear her thoughts.

Did it occur to you that you may have nearly married an Edward because these trash films planted the seed of idea that Edwards are worth pursuing

Good for you for dodging a bullet, or in this case an A-Bomb.

​@@JessemyBeadleI don't think so. I saw the cinema therapy series over and over. I was so unbelievably happy that I had a relationship with a man that I ignored a lot of important signs. I know it's toxic, but I was in a very bad place when we met and he ran with it. We were together for 6 terrible years. Only afterwards you see how bad it was. It's a long healing process, but I'm on my way.

@hecate3062 -- Glad you got out! It's very much like escaping emotional imprisonment. The jail cell bars are invisible to others, and at first even yourself, but the effects of being in an imprisoning relationship make themselves known in time. Singledom never feels so much like freedom as it does after getting away from a bad ex and toxic relationship.

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Indeed

I asked the same loud and my sister started laughing so hard

OK, to be completely fair to Edward, in the books he reveals that the people he killed were rapists, murderers, and the lowest of the low. However, they left this out in the movie. Personally, I think they should've kept that information in. It would've worked well to develop his character better.

@@Akiku2 he still killed them, so he is still a murderer

Only if I could forget about Twilight and the fact that Jacob claimed Bella’s unborn baby as his own

She was probably repressing the memory.

It's almost like oh shit I was in that- cringe

I didn't even know she was in it

Wait what?!

I was team Jacob. I wonder if he ended up being a douche too. I don't remember, so I'm interested to watch these and see if my teenage self correctly assessed him as a nice guy.

😭 literally

Bella: You want to rip my throat out and drain my blood? Ooooh I'm getting wet just thinking about it.

@@Xehanort10 lol

@@Xehanort10 I threw up in my mouth a little bit

It's like if Dexter had a woman killer on his table who got turned on by the fact that he was about to kill her.

Bella: They must have all been bad right? Terminator: Why make that distinction?

Hintofpink now that serial killer is in therapy 😁

Seriously - my thoughts as well. This is one of those “fans” who write serial killers like Ted Bundy etc., thinking that “I’m the special one who GETS him” - yeah right.

Finally, after elitepartner, comming soon: Serial romance.

Edward is not narcissitic. He's absolutely soaked in self pity and utter contempt for himself and his nature as a vampire. He genuinely hates himself.

@EternityKingdomsHeadHoncho -- That's because the Twilight series doesn't think there's anything unhealthy to address, so it doesn't.

She does in the books. The movies made her like that

@@breeh2335 I don’t remember any of her interests

@@ber1779 she liked reading and acc read all the time. You never see that in the movies and she was acc really smart but again they got rid of that in the movies.

@@breeh2335 yes! And she also was good at cooking and basically took care of her house, which is pretty impressive in my opinion for a teenager. And she also figures out that Edward is a vampire and reads minds on her own in the books.

@@NatalieMosack I agree

Can ya blame him tho? When it comes to Bella & Friends they are: The most broken, sociopathic people one has ever laid eyes on. Less people rather than a loose collection of character defects.

@flower you've missed my point, merely agreeing with op and expanding on the satire of op :p

I relate to this. My boyfriend wanted to watch the movies with me last year because he thought it would be funny. Neither of us had seen them before and I knew next to nothing about them aside from the very basics even though I was in the right demographic to have been into them growing up. I both loved and hated the movies. I loved relating to that feeling of teenage angst and desperation for love and acceptance, but I also was creeped out by soooo many things. The whole thing with Bella's baby and Jacob was weird AF and then when he asks Edward if he should start calling him dad I almost puked. But somehow even despite the creepiness and unhealthy relationships and behaviors, I still very unexpectedly enjoyed the movies.

@@lizard3755 It makes me laugh and hate that I laughed. I know exactly what you mean. Creepy and unhealthy, but like a train wreck, I can't look away.

“Fine! LETS GET MARRIED”

“Fine let’s have a kid!!!”

“Fine, let’s bring our kid to a staring contest that masks a war between our family and the “royals” ”

“Fine! Lets have a kid, bring it to a war between the royals and us, then reserve the child for my childhood friend to date!”

Yandere red flag?

We just filmed our NEW MOON episode today. He looks like he's in pain the entire film. We're pretty sure it's not acting but rather his actual feelings doing another of these movies.

Robert Pattinson’s acting as Cedric is much more better than Twilight (coming from a potter head hufflepuff)

@@ghostprince9247 i'm a potterhead hufflepuff too!

@@deinodinosuchus YEEEE! HUFFLEPUFFS UNITE! XD

@@ghostprince9247 Let us show all the other potterheads what we are made of!

Yeah... pretty much we are too scared of being murdered by them...

@@elizatilsizoglou5946 Exactly. It's similar to how many people (of any gender or sexuality) like anti-heroes or well-written villains in movies but that doesn't mean they admire or want to associate with actual bad people in real life. What we are attracted to or entertained by in cinema does not always translate to real life. It really bugs me that "women love bad boys" has been applied to real life and passed off as common knowledge. I do have one college friend that dated a string of "bad boys" in college but I don't like to label it as that because she was really just selecting abusive partners due to trauma from childhood abuse. She's since stopped due to facing that trauma and seeking help. But that's not a case for "women love bad boys hehe eye-roll." Euphemizing the fact that a small percentage women romanticize or pursue abusive partners is bullcrap. Repeating the (supposed) aphorism that "women love bad boys" (irl) implies that it is something inherent or instinctual and NOT a manifestation of unhealthy attitudes that can be fixed with mental help. Which is just plain inaccurate.

Not exactly the same but I have a huge interest in Azula from Avatar the last airbender. This is because psychology intrigues me, especially the psychology of someone who is mentally ill. I enjoy trying to rationalize and discover the motives behind what Azula does and her decisions. I would never want to be with someone like Azula, and the "bad boy/girl" thing isn't my type, but it relates to your comment "women like bad boys _on screen_ ."

Only thing I can think of is the sort of draw to boys who are scruffy. Like not jerks but a little wild, maybe grew up poor because sometimes the people who have had it good their whole lives get entitled and blind to certain things

Frankly, I really had a female friend who treated the only good guy she was attracted to really BAD, but was chasing after bad guy like you have no idea! And I am really glad that she was my friend and NOT my love interest.

The fact Robert Pattinson is now going to play Batman makes this comment extra hilarious 🤣🤣🤣

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@@joannavelez5179 I’m pretty sure that line was an intentional shoutout since Pattinson was cast as Batman over a year before this video was published. 🤔 What I DO find unnerving is that Bella tells Edward he puts on a mask in public to scare people away from him, thus alluding to Robert Pattinson eventually being cast as Batman 12 years later..... STEPHANIE MEYER IS A PROPHET!!! 😱 Haha

I also didn't understand that confusion. I think when teens enter a new environment, they mostly hope for not doing something emberrassing. Adults do that too, just maybe less intensely.

I think it is a female thing. We constantly compare ourselves to other women and are painfully aware of where we fall on the attractiveness scale. Lots of men do the same to women as well, but not themselves I guess.

It’s an opinion. You can’t know what everyone of the opposite sex likes because they’re all different from each other. And gay people exist.

Edward can't read Bella's mind because there is nothing in there to read.

@@vladables1582 “fascinating... I see nothing.”

Hell Bella not being smart is an unarguable fact. Meyer only portrays her as intelligent because she's her self insert.

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He just hears static in her head

Yeah they obviously don't know P&P

It's the take away from the condensed plot movie. The book is absolutely as you say and can be read into the movie if you've had the book first.

@@milchbrotchen2930 plus Edward never stops being manipulative and abusive. He is controlling every aspect of Bella's life till the very last book and she constantly has to fight to have the least bit of control on it . Any similarity here with p&p is just surface level.

okay

@@mrose3299 the six episode mini series actually does a good job of showing Lizzy hating on Darcy before she realizes he’s a good guy. I prefer the series to the movie but i think I’m in the minority lol

She also complains about Mike following her around like a lovesick puppy but being stalked by Edward is apparently fine.

LMAO-

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He doesn't go to bathroom the week before

basically a constant state of discomfort because he loves her but wants her blood 😅

When he made fun of Bella's "pregnant" belly despite it being flat, I was weak

reminds of how Sheldon wanted to destroy something that Amy likes but had to admit P&P is perfect

WE LOVE GROWTH.

There is a bone to pick

@@ganhaghag7663 you've come so far

She should learn from Veronica

For a second, I thought you were going to say she liked the relationship and now she doesn’t have a job as a domestic abuse counselor 😂

@@Melanie-jy2nw literally though 😂😂 had us in the first half

Epic

fifty shades is also a gold mine to study abuse

@@FruityHachi agree. And it's also based on twilight

You're very welcome. Thanks for watching!

I've never seen any of those (shame on me, I know), but I know exactly what you're talking about because I think much the same thing happens with Jane Austen. Lots of people view those books just as the pinnacle of romance literature when in fact far more than that, a lot of the time they're satire. And, you know, novels exploring human nature from a female perspective. And then you get loads and loads of copycat stories that forget to explore those elements - but it is in fact those elements that make Austen the enduring writer she is.

Because it’s pointless. Humans are designed to kill, all predators are.

@@serpentinewolf7085 what you're saying is logical but there are people on this planet that could never make the mental leap to physically kill someone and I'm just talking in a life or death scenario. Some people on this planet can't kill. I might even go as far as to say a great amount if not majority wouldn't be able to

@@imperviousdonut Those people are weak and not fit for survival then. Either way it makes sense that others not only kill, but that others are attracted to that. Like imagine a hawk not being attracted to the stronger mate that kills more prey or better kills intruding other hawks. Imagine how far a species has to fall to no longer find traits of survival attractive.

@@serpentinewolf7085 I disagree with how you see people. You describe humans the humans once were or should I say you're seeing all humans as 3rd world humans trying to survive. That's not how the world works anymore. Again this dosent include poverty stricken and starving people for obvious reasons but people in "developed" countries have no need to live like every second mother nature is against you. Hunting and gathering for us no longer exists because of modern amenities. For the most part people have no need for this only the strong will survive bullshit mentality because frankly that's not true. Frankly it's the cunning types that do quite well in the world we currently live in. Also there have historically always been physically weak or sick people who've survived over the greats. Also I think people who outright claim to know that they could kill without ever having been put in such awful situations are full of crap because you can't ever tell if your bodily response would be fight or flight. Humanity couldn't survive if everyone was some type of tough guy

@@imperviousdonut Except to openly rely on such amenities is stupid. If they fail, you die. It’s people who don’t have those instincts that die if shit hits the fan or any real life or death issue happens. You can only be so cunning if you freeze or can’t defend yourself, kill for your right to live. And lots of people don’t know what they’ll do, some do though. You can also train yourself to be more prone to actually fighting or flighting. But you should be worried about amenities and Mother Nature. Ask all those tsunami, hurricane, earthquake (large) survivors. Ask people who needed relief help that didn’t come for days. Look at the rioting we get already, the violence. We can’t safely walk down the streets alone even in first world countries. So yes, the strong also survive and we shouldn’t stray from that because all this fancy shit we’ve built can crumble and you’d only have yourself to rely on for immediate survival. Encouraging weakness just because you think you can is stupid and short sighted. Then again lots of first world people are lazy and weak.

That's what i thought. Why doesn't he get a passport that says he's 20? He looks old enough.

and he also comes into your room out of nowhere

So true, there is literally no reason hahahaha

If you read the books you’d know that they are trying to stay normal, by going to school and fitting in with the humans it helps them stay away from their vampire instincts.

He and the rest of the cullens look college aged. Why the hell are they in high school? Why would they willing chose to be around teenagers?

Thing with that is that it provides context to this that ruins their analysis, fuck - paying more attention to Edward would do that.

Can you please tell me what it's about because no one will and Google is kinda unclear on it. Please

I remember watching Dominic Noble's video on this book/movie and he said something similar.

@@Eris_Norregard maybe that’s where it was 🤔 I was also thinking it could have been The Take

lmao that is so fucking sad but also so fucking true

"Edward is attracted to the smell of Bella’s blood." I was a little disappointed that they didn't mention this in the video here. They make it seem like Edward acted disgusted for no reason, but it was like this: When Bella entered the room and Edward smells her he had such a strong (positive) reaction that he covers his face to hide it and then acts repelling to keep her away from him to keep her save. Wasn't that in the books? (I didn't read them) Also if I remember correctly Bella had something similar going on and that's the reason she wasn't derreted and afraid of him.

@@dancingpeanut3400 that is true, though I think the over the top disgust reaction from Robert Pattinson in the movie was just bad directing tbh. But in the book what you said is 100% right.

Was looking for this comment ha!

😂😂😂🤣

Gold

THIS

Yes! Not to mention that Lizzy was crushing on another guy half of the book. It was just after Mr. Darcy's confession that she thought about the two of them together at all (and thought: ugh, NO.WAY.). And after Darcy realizes that he was a jerk, he reflects on himself and reevaluates his priorities, causing a change in behavious that lets Lizzy realise that he's not just his money and pride.

Also, Lizzie and Darcy despite the enemies to lovers structure (which in my opinion, they just don't like each other, because I've never seen them as *enemies*, in my interpretation) is the strong family bond that they have-especially individually. Darcy is with Georgiana, Lizzie has a closer relationship with Jane, although she care about the rest of the family. In twilight on the other hand they don't say anything more reasonable about why the bond among them was so strong-or so lacking, in bella's case. I love the way Darcy and Lizzie relationship was build. He was a jerk at the beginning and not intentionally almost destroyed the chances of Bingley ended up together with Jane, however he recognized. Lizzie was putting Wickham on a pedestal based on the lies that he told her, making Lizzie trust more in her own judgment. Lizzie was aware about Wickham's questionable nature after the letter because she finally see a situation where she and the Bennett family could suffer because she has younger sisters too. That's why Lizzie and Darcy worked well as a couple. The reason was the family besides the virtues and flaws that they have and the time that both sides gave to know each other with mutual respect.

And now that I think about it more, Darcy's biggest 'sin' is his.... well, pride and prejudice. He puts a bit too much emphasis on social status and tends to look down on people with a lower status than himself. Edward literally killed people, and is basically a stalker. So yeah, there's a reason why one novel is a literary classic and the other is just simple amusement. (Yeah, I liked reading Twilight as well.)

FR-I mean every time that I thought about edward and bella's relationship automatically my head associates with with the song "every breath you take" LOL I also was a huge fan of the series during my pre-teens/teen years and I re-read the first book last year after almost one decade, and... OH, BOY! In parts I can't blame bella for being so self deprecating about everything related about herself, she's basically is a reflection of the emotional garbage that she has been consuming all in her daily social circle. The only thing that appreciated in book was Alice/Jasper relationship dynamics. Rosalie/Emmett was good too.

Same 😂

See, if this movie were made today and she were a nihilist gen Z teen, he'd say his line and she'd be like "Oh, score. Snap to it, dude. World ain't getting any less crappy," or something similar, and at least then it'd be funnier in a morbid way.

I love their reaction so much

Nice catch!

Could you let me know where it says that?

@@jaylee4755 9:54

They fixed it... sad :(

well, they sometimes need saving. the thing that I like about it, is that it's never held against them as if women "always" need saving... just that they were in a situation where they needed help. seems healthier with both sexes simply recognizing when someone needs help, rather than all the weight being put on one sex to always be the one to do the saving.

@@Nu_Wen yes! and that's how they're designed, it's more the type of relationship that is mutually supportive and beneficial.

Which movie do you recommend?

@@sheepsong5681 Try Laputa: Castle in the Sky, Spirited Away, Howl's Moving Castle, Ponyo By the Sea, Kiki's Delivery Service, and Princess Mononoke :)

@@sheepsong5681 The previous reply is very good and pretty much same answer as mine, I guess I would separate it by age myself. For younger children, Kiki's delivery service, Ponyo & My Neighbour Totoro. For older kids/teens, Princess Mononoke, Nausicaa of the Valley of the Wind & Howls Moving Castle. Spirited Away is good for all ages (it's one of few or the only foreign film to win an Oscar for best animation I've heard - but pls fact check I might be mistaken 😂). Finally, it's message is more about environmentalism but Pom Poko is very good too. This is based on my own viewing, they definitely have more films to explore.

I think what drew me to the books too is the idea of someone saving and protecting you… because my family was abusive .

All valid points.

They are good actors. Did you give movie 4 & 5 a try? I very much liked the first book but had to struggle to tolerate the poor direction of movies 1-3. Only Condon knew how to handle the material imo

@@judeannethecandorchannel2153 Don’t worry. We’re getting there.

Right???? I saw the movies first, and loved the side characters way more, which in turn inspired me to read the books. She’s so close to doing something amazing within the vampire universe, almost to the level of Ann Rice, but it gets bogged down with this stupid storyline. Also the first movie is SUCH a guilty pleasure of mine. I could tell it was the director’s first movie. Also, people gave Kirsten such crap for how she portrayed Bella, but if you read the books you realize that’s it. That’s exactly how Bella as a character is written. It’s the same thing with Katniss and Jennifer Lawrence’s portrayal. Also, also: I do think Kirsten Stewart has talent as writer. I loved her book The Host!! Also, she apparently was raised Mormon, so that realllly explains her weird way of looking at relationships.

Well she does she writes about all of them

I second this. Always been fascinated with them as a couple.

They’re my favorite couple. I’d love to see this

Yeeeeessss !

Yessss please do the Addams Family! Morticia and Gomez are great together and their relationship with their family and their children is great

Yesssss

Because people love forbidden obsession in romance stories. “I can’t believe that you as a person exist and breathe the same air as me get away, but I actually can’t stop thinking about you ever.” People eat that shit up. You should have seen how outraged my mother got when I presented her with the facts about how dangerous twilight could be especially to developing teenage girls who are starting to learn about how the wider world works. She was livid. But I’m glad this channel exists to outline those who act like Edward, and those who will strive to defend this saying “It’s just fluff”.

like he says: "... that doesn't mean I don't _want_ to be friends"

@@papersmoke3441 yeah. I was a tween when the movies came out and...I think it set bad relationship ideas onto the people who thought it was the most amazing thing ever.

No I think it's more like "I'm fucking dangerous and could possibly kill you, and I don't wanna do that to you', which is fucking toxic but still. (that's also why he looked disgusted, because he didn't want to do anything. I would describe it more like "tense" though.)

In the book from his perspective, it’s because he biologically wants to drink from her, and therefore keeps getting attracted to her

I wish they would have brought this up in the video. I think Bella is a very interesting character. It was nice seeing an introverted main character who cares too much about other people and feels like she doesn't belong. Both Bella and Edward are super insecure about lots of stuff and that contributes to making their relationship toxic in a lot of ways. I felt that these insecurities were relatable as a young teenager. I also believe most girls are able to identify the problematic parts about this relationship, it is quite clear in both the books and the movies. Vampires, romance and relatable personal problems makes this story very captivating, I guess that's part of the reason why the books became so popular.

I haven't read the first book in a while, so... I remember Bella's parents being divorced, but wasn't it a pretty amicable divorce? Like, she got to spend time with both of them for certain amounts of time, and nobody was The Bad Parent™? I vaguely remember her mom being a bit more focused on boyfriends than Bella. IDK 😅 I guess I have a different idea of a broken family.

@@alexandriahunt6058 so Bella used to visit often when she was younger. I don't remember why she stopped. I want to say she felt like a disconnect because her dad was depressed so she felt uncomfortable and stopped seeing him but the parents make little no to effort to communicate with each other or co parent her in a healthy way. It's like parents who say they're "good parents" because they never abused you. The bar is just so low for parents. It was a broken home just not abusive. Also I feel the need to point out that I think I own all 4 movies

@@imperviousdonut Oh, okay~ Thanks for clarifying. Some people use the term "broken family" to refer to any sort of split in the familial unit, and there's well-rounded kids out there with divorced parents because the parents were still good at BEING parents to their kids 😌

If me and Bella can agree on one point it's that neither of use think she's smart.

I cannot agree more, I argued with most of them and couldn't get through to them.

@@ad.mockingbird When you try to get through to them you get sappy pretentious shit back like "You've never been in love. You just don't understand." People who are in love don't stalk each other, break into each other's houses to watch them sleep, you ask politely or they ask you politely if you or they want to be driven home not "Let me drive you home and if you try to run away I'll drag you back to my car" like Edward did. People who love each other are not controlling and don't justify that control as "protection."

I WAS one of those girls as a young, impressionable teen. I got obsessed with this series and it probably contributed to my "yandere" phase. Took years of therapy to finally get to a healthy perspective on romantic relationships. Even at the time of reading Twilight, I had absolutely no idea how/why Bella fell in love with Edward

Lack of parental guidance. You're supposed to learn what a healthy relationship is with your family, not with romance fiction

@@claralima1967 or actually the parents relationship is abusive and teens think it’s normal

Edward: What are you talking about? Stalking Bella is my hobby. Watching her sleep is my favourite past-time.

@@RA-fw5yc Get another hobby, bro. You play baseball and play the piano. Focus on that instead and don't get into a relationship with anyone period.

He’s also canonically a virgin until he meets Bella in the books; waiting 100+ years to make a sexual debut is repressing pent up energy that needs to be spent.

ikr, what he even does in his life? lives with his family and just... listens to music?🗿

It's a movie girl.

Big fax

Bella: "Because you're hot and you pay attention to me... which means this is true love. I cAn fEeL iT." *eyeroll...* This is literally ALL of us at 16 years old. Any teens reading this comment, listen to this happily married 30 year old woman: You will fall in love several times in your life. You will not MARRY everyone you fall in love with. Your 'first love' feels SO intense because it's your first time feeling these feels. But it will happen many times over before you're 30 years old. Also, the type of boy/girl you like when you're 16 is soooo different from what you'll want when you're 25 or 30. If you're a teen out there forcing a bad relationship to work... or a teen feeling depressed after being dumped, thinking you lost your "true love"... Don't worry. It gets better. You're just going through your unripe, hormonal bombaclot phase. So chin up buttercup. That is all.

Book fans know that. But if you're watching the movie for the first time, that look is not "I'm hungry, but I know I shouldn't." The look is, well, "ick." With a side of crazy.

@Ugo Love good point. Maybe also he's disgusted with himself for wanting to kill her? Like he's morally opposed to his demonic nature?

@Ugo Love haha! Love it, but I disagree a bit. Twilight is a parable about the battle between the light and dark sides of our nature. Edward's natural impulse was to kill Bella, while his "higher self" was to love and protect her. He does say that he hated her for making him want her so badly, which again, is part of the Bella-blaming that is so problematic. She blames herself, Edward blames her, Jacob blames her. Those boys need to take some ownership!

It is indeed said that in the midnight sun book that he is really only upset at himself. The thing is that he shows that upset Ness outwardly and Bella takes it the wrong way.

@@CinemaTherapyShow it looks like someone on the scale being overwhelmed by a smell comming from her. both is true hes hyper sensitive to smell like someone on the scale might be and hes overwhelmed by it serching distance and tensing up its not ment to imidiatly give away that hes a vampire but that something about him is different and that goal was acomplished

It always blew my mind that this nearly 200year old MAN did not emotionally mature past the age of 17😂 Nooooooo!

@@d.l831 if he was turned during the Spanish Influenza he would only be over 100 years old during Twilight... it doesn't make it better....but let's be accurate...

I dont think he actually matured since hes still in his teenage body as a vampire 😩 Hes just eternally 17, mentally

@@Rolling_Girl_falling_forever yes and the wolf being in love with a baby that grew up magically fast. Very mature

@@joroc Apparently twilight was originally a Harry Potter fanfic, so it's best not to expect morals or common sense :P