Relativism: The Worst Belief Ever, with Greg Koukl 

Thank you for this interview. It was very Providential. Lately, I feel physically, emotionally, and spiritually exhausted by the world. God has been graciously sustaining me and it helps to know that others are going through the same thing. If anyone reads this and feels alone in their struggles too, please know you're not the only one.

I am the one who has become reclusive. I can't handle the way things are going. Pray for me to be stronger in the face of this. I am about to lose everyone I love because of this. I feel truly alone. Thank God for these podcasts! Thank you so much for this one!!!

Alisa when you said about what a chaotic time for people who are wired for truth - that hit me like a ton of bricks because that is me! I had never thought about it like that and I am pulling away from society because I am so very overwhelmed by people and what is going on in our world today. I am most dismayed by Christians who are believing so much of what is worldly and is in opposition to the things of God. Thank you for putting this into words it will be helpful to me going forward and in how I ask God to strengthen and guide. Blessings to you and your ministry!

In the movie Twelve Monkeys, Brad Pitt expresses his view on the truth: "There's no right or wrong, there's only popular opinion." Sadly, that's the way it is for large swaths of the population. Relativism is the fuel that feeds the engine of hedonism, because at the end of the day that is what it all boils down to. People don't like to be told what they are doing is wrong. It's the same game the serpent ran in the Garden, one he continues to run it because it works. When I was a leadership facilitator, the subject of living in the world as it is came up during a discussion. I pointed out that alongside that is the world of the way things ought to be. Someone then asked if we shouldn't live in one and draw inspiration from the other. We discussed it for a bit but at the end I reminded them to be careful not to drift into the third way, the world of the way you want things to be. I drew from Dickens for an analogy: “This boy is Ignorance. This girl is Want. Beware of them both, and all of their degree, but most of all beware this boy, for on his brow I see that written which is Doom.” ― Charles Dickens: A Christmas Carol Believing your truth is the same as remaining willfully ignorant to the world around you and it opens your mind to machinations of the father of all lies. As Jesus said: “I came into the world, to testify to the truth. Everyone who belongs to the truth listens to my voice.” ― John 18: 37 That is how you navigate the swirling waters of relativism, by seeking the truth.

I so appreciated this discussion. One thing that seems to be missing in the discussion is why power is so important to these people. Alisa questions why someone always comes on to her site and questions her motives, accusing her of essentially a power play, and the reason is that deconstructionism and all the critical theories now in play in the universities are based on the premise that all our beliefs and attitudes are a simply a reflection of a power structure. These ideas are Marxist in origin, and it makes sense when you understand that that they try to spin a world view based on power. Critical race theory is one such deconstructionist view. It claims all our laws are racist because they arose from white supremacists who wanted to maintain power. Everyone operates from either a position of power or a position of oppression in their world. It is blatantly about power for these people, and they don't try to hide it. They want to give power to themselves, to blacks as a punishment of whites, and to criminals who have been "oppressed." They have the power, and they intend to wield it. I have a doctorate in English earned back in the 90s, and my professors even then were heavily into deconstructionism, but an excellent book on this subject is Cynical Theories by Helen Pluckrose and James Lindsay.

Excellent interview ! So glad to be in a Bible believing and preaching Church.

Yes, never live your truth. Always live Greg Koukl's truth.

I highly recommend Greg's (and Frank Beckwith's) book: Relativism: Feet Firmly Planted in Mid-Air. It's an easy read but will powerfully equip you to confront the culture.

Wishing to please the crowd, this sums everything up. Thank you for an excellent interview.

Just the title of this video is so refreshing.

Amazing interview… I need to listen a few more times with notebook in hand! God bless you both✝️❣️

God bless both you, Alisa, and Greg. You are on the frontlines of the fight in this post-Christian, post-truth culture.

Thanks for sharing 🙏🏾 His grace and mercy be upon you all and your loved ones 🕊️🥛🍯

Perfectly said! We all need a compass, directions on how to live our lives! That is why the scriptures are still true today! Thousands of years old, but still relevant on how to live!

Great interview. I loved Koukl's book on relativism.

Crazy I just watched your two interviews with Greg Koukl from a couple years ago last night! I spoke with my friend who is mid-deconstruction tonight and used his tools and she said “hmm that’s a good question” several times. It was so helpful! I tend to be more hardcore and spill a bunch of truth but I think this was the best tactic for her and am grateful for both of you! Im praying I can be a light to pull this girl back to Christ. Maybe I can get her to watch your channel. Is there a talk or episode of yours that you would recommend for someone like that to listen to first? Maybe sharing your testimony?

Thank u. Thank u. I'm 51 and i do not remember it EVER being like this. Not like this. You can't even tell people the TRUTH, anymore! Its just crazy.

Great interview! You know, I always wonder how it is that "relativists" don't realize they're destroying their worldview by virtue of defending it. Why do they hold such a view? Perhaps it's because they think it's, wait for it, true? All relativists are walking contradictions.

Encouraging and edifying conversation and much needed. Thank you, Alisa and Greg, for your faithfulness and boldness to speak the Truth. You will be rewarded!

Sooo so relevant today! Currently reading Tactics and I wish I've read it sooner. I've felt that same response from seeing how much distortion of truth is happening right now, it's really overwhelming and I'm surrounded by it from professors to friends who all unconsciously (or maybe consciously) follow relativism, and it's even sadder when you see Christians who fall to that same trap...The feeling of isolating myself from all of it is strong, but I'm trying to remind myself daily that there is no greater joy in His eternal presence, and I'd rather cling to that than my own temporal feelings...

Tactics is one of the most helpful books I've ever read.

Greg mentioned that tolerance is a one way street and I think some of that comes from Herbert Marcuse repressive tolerance ideology from the 1960s who was popular in the college circuit . The condensed version is any idea that that originates from a progressive perspective must be tolerated and any idea the originates from a conservative perspective must be shown intolerance. Great conversation!

Remember when 'something happened' when you were a kid? Your parents or parent called you on the carpet and asked: "What happened Johnny?" ... At that point, you could have told one of a thousand stories... but You Know what happened. And for that, it only went one way. That's what TRUTH is. There is only one.

Alisa is so beautiful 😍!! Just a wonderful example of a proverbs 31 woman!

She always puts up valuable conversations. Praise God!

Thank you Alisa for having Greg Koukl on your podcast and for always strongly and courageously defending the Gospel! I get so much from your programs. I can't thank you enough!

Love the both of you. Amen. ✝️📖💒🙇‍♀️🙏

Thank you so much for this video it helped me so much God bless you, we need more of the truth to be exposed in this broken world

Well done, good and faithful servants.

Alisa and Greg do an excellent job of bringing clarity to this false narrative and pointing back to ultimate truth. So important and so needed for discussion. Thank you both so much for bringing this to us. We are in good company when the world hates us, for they hated Christ first. 😪 GmaJo Keeping it Real (in Faith and Truth) 💕🙏

Greg is a gem. Will truly go down as one of the best to ever do it of our generation. May God's hand continue to be on him wherever he goes and his family.

Wonderful and insightful. God bless you both!!

I wish this information was available in Spanish...It is so needed! I pray someday I will be able to interview you. It's so urgent! May the Lord continue gifting you with wisdom, discernment... This is a much needed message in the Latinamerican churches.

Excited for this conversation! Thank you both for your faithfulness to God and proclamation of THE truth.

Wonderful! Thank you so much!

Wow, what an incredible conversation on this topic! I definitely took a lot from this thank you brother and sister in Christ for your ministries and all that you do for the kingdom of God. God bless you both always

Gah! That was so good!

I found a short and sweet simple definition of the word "truth". According to the Funk & Wagnalls standard desk dictionary, truth is Reality. Thus, people who don't live their lives in truth actually live in a false fantasy world. They have no idea who they really are. It's no wonder we need a Savior/Redeemer to show us who we are created to be. Now I have a better understanding of why Jesus called Himself the Way, the Truth, and the Life! Yes, yes, yes!!! 😊🤗👍❤

Thank you so much these kinds of arguments are very helpful, especially today.

It is strange. Relavatism is a type of mathematical idolatry. You change your believe relative to where you are standing. Relativism is probably the most religious of all attitudes. It is probably an application of the opposite of the Book of Judges: Teaching people to follow Baal.

So thankful for your podcasts!! They have brought so much understanding to what is going on with the theology of so of my friends. I have seen so many walk away from the truth and leave their faith. It breaks my heart. Thank you for being a light and speaking truth in this season of time!

Good morning from Anacortes Washington! Such good stuff here, very valuable!! Gods blessings to you both!!

I watched the whole video!! I thought I would only watch like 4 minutes, this is the first time I see your channel, great!!! Glory and praise to our Lord Jesus Christ!! ❤❤❤

Very good interview ☺️

Alisa, this podcast is SO good. Thank you!!!

That Jordan Peterson interview is AWESOME!! He really did get her. You could see the gears moving in her head. That’s why I like him so much! He makes people THINK but is never mean about it

Thank you for this conversation!

Thank you so much for this video! It was a blessing 🙏🏽

Such a great discussion!! Love it!

Thank you Alisa for interviewing Greg Koukl on the topics of Relativism, Postmodernism and subjective truth. I learned so much on this interview and podcast about terminology that I did not know how to describe or name and yet know something is not correct. I had the pleasure of working with Greg Koukl when he was the editor of Hope Chapel Hermosa Beach magazine in the 1980s. At the same time I worked as the calligrapher, illustrator, graphic artist and print shop assistant for Hope Chapel.

I get so much from your podcasts! Keeping us sound in faith!

Such a great conversation! Thank you.

Really great episode! Thank you, Alisa and Greg!

Excellent! Thank you!

This is a great podcast! We'll worth listening to!

Thank you so much Alisa and Greg for this very important and interesting discussion! I’m going to look for the books you mentioned including“Another Gospel “:)

Really good talk, thanks!

Thank you!

Really enjoyed this thank you!

So good!

@22:30 reminds me of the scriptures, where it speaks of Jesus, as having come in grace, and in truth

Excellent conversation

So good, thank you.

Our feelings are great servants... But they make horrible masters.

Great video.

Great video

Koukl! We love Greg Koukl

God Should own our reality -- and We should be Satisfied with That!

When you pit your beliefs and opinions against reality which do you suppose is going to win?

There is only one truth. It comes from the Holy Spirit. But when they hand you over, do not worry about how or what you are to say; for it will be given you in that hour what you are to say. For it is not you who speak, but it is the Spirit of your Father who speaks in you. As for you, the anointing which you received from Him abides in you, and you have no need for anyone to teach you; but as His anointing teaches you about all things, and is true and is not a lie, and just as it has taught you, you abide in Him.

If you don’t have “the story or reality” by Greg Koukl get it!! It is my favourite book!!

Good discussion. I don't agree with your characterization of Eve, but other than that, very solid.

Proper Judgment what sublime counsel 🧠 🕊 🧭

I love his book Tactics

EVERYTHING'S AN EITHER/OR. To prove relativism is true one would have to say... either it is, or it isn't. Some people who hold that relativism is true just don't see their self-refuting position...

If Everyone is living "their", truth then what is THE truth? Some Truths ARE NOT Subjective. Period.

Awesome

Obey and seek God’s will daily. 1 Peter 3:15 1 Thessalonians 5:16-18 Luke 10:27💕

Are you still demonetized Alisa? You’ve continued to create such powerful content (I’ve just discovered your channel and have been digging in and learning so much this past month). But I pray your channel is financially beneficial for you.

SAUL the King. A narccissistic one persecuting David an example of character types.

Modernism, Post-Modernism, Relativism, Objectivism, Naturalism, Mysticism, Rationalism, blah, blah, blah. The solution to is all is very simple: embracing the Truth revealed to us via the Word by the Holy Spirit.

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Can we set up a debate between Frank Turek & Greg Koukl on soteriology?

Interesting, I have been called a Jezebel too and also having a Leviathan spirit. I trace it back to those who went to prophetic training school at Bethel School of the Prophets in Redding, California.

An interesting revelation I received from God when I first met Jesus, was about the tree of knowledge and relativism. That the tree is the knowledge of relative good n evil. Mans version of it. The origin of divide n conquer. It's been humanity's paradigm ever since, and only from the Holy Spirit can we discern the truth beyond that. That tree is bearing full fruit now in these last days.

So I listened to this on the podcast and I realized that Greg Koukl sounds easily similar to Jeff Goldblum! 🤣

Greg here again does an expert job of mixing up so much of what is wrong and right. First of all he conflates an individual search for meaning that Oprah was referring to as narcissistic.. which though can be true, not necessarily.. Jeremiah talks of the day where we would all be taught by God PERSONALLY, Jesus talks of us being Gods, Greater things than this will you do, and St.Paul backs this up in his epistles.. the problem is not individualism as such, but that which is cut off from a greater truth of LOVE expressing in our lives in Grace and Mercy. I would agree that Relativism is a severe problem.. But I also see it in quite a bit of Greg's articles on his site and the little I've read of his books... No wonder he's part of the "focus on the Family" one of the worst organizations for this spiritual pablum .. Truly hoping for Greg's spiritual growth from Peter Pan, keeping the childishness of churchianity, to a more wise soul... because like Alisa I do see some real nuggets in there as well every now and then.

On the topic of truth (as Nancy Pearcy would say "true truth") and its purposeful absence in the postmodern, because they "speak your own"; which reminds of the "name it and claim it" Joel Osteen type of money making or authority over a situation. I am reminded of Yeonmi Park talking about North Korea, even if 2+2=4, if the supreme leader says it's 5 (because of ignorance or because he says so) it is 5, throughout North Korea - education. That was not her verbatim example, and there are many in this vein to reference; If the judge, if the king, if the Authoritarian government says so (see Nazism/Maoists/Communism/ and any other of such - the list), that is now your tyranny. Whether of 1, the tyrant, or the majority (democracy), a large group of ignorance, truth has no place in governing the model and means of peoples; more so whatever they are bent to, by their own wickedness or the suggestion of others (algorithm included).

Go get em tigers!😁

What do you think the consequences are of creating and supporting a false reality, then forcing others to accept and promote that ideology?

Sorry to hear you were denonetized. I wasn't already a subscriber, changed that immediately to weigh back in on your voice - guess that's the least I can do.

Is being your own hero being misunderstood? If we save someone from a burning building we are acting heroic and we are labeled as a hero, do we not make choices in our life to save us from ourselves? I don't feel this removes God from the equation, has he not given us certain gifts/abilities to do? Does He not command us to gird ourselves?

Why anyone would think that ignoring the advice given by the very designer and maker of the entire universe and all life in favor of following some idiot making things up is mind boggling.

What is truth?

praise the only true living LORD and GOD bless you all glory be to the HOLY TRINITY forever and ever amen 💖✝✝✝...

He looks like the Christian Clint Eastwood :) :) Clean Harry :P :P :P

Your truth simply means you are now your very own god....breaking free of God's objective truth. This delusion has been commonly associated with consuming certain bad fruits.

What is the real truth of what Oprah saw as a young girl growing up in a Baptist family? The death of her infant son whom she never got to hold in her teens formed the outlook of her past and future

The Divine Conspiracy. Dallas Willard

What if someone's truth is that you can buy your slaves from the nations that surround you?