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The previous videos in this series:
Chapter 1: Why Relativity is Hard • Why is Relativity Hard...
Chapter 2: Spacetime Diagrams • Spacetime Diagrams | S...
Chapter 3: Lorentz Transformations • Lorentz Transformation...
This video is chapter 4 in my series on special relativity, and it covers how things that appear simultaneous from one perspective in our universe aren't simultaneous from other moving perspectives - that is, from inertial reference frames moving at different speeds. This is explained via the Lorentz transformation of coordinates of the events in question, enacted with a mechanical minkowski diagram, aka mechanical Lorentz transformation, aka spacetime globe.
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Комментарии : 907   
@acapellascience
@acapellascience 6 лет назад
This series has already given me more intuition for relativity (especially simultaneity problems) than I got from two physics degrees.
@strategen9124
@strategen9124 6 лет назад
acapellascience oh hi
@fabulator2779
@fabulator2779 6 лет назад
Yo!
@SatyamKumar-ts2jh
@SatyamKumar-ts2jh 6 лет назад
That's an interesting way to say you have 2 degrees in Physics lol
@nelsonhoover8462
@nelsonhoover8462 6 лет назад
Same
@cheezemonkeyeater
@cheezemonkeyeater 6 лет назад
It's really quite amazing how this channel (and it's sister channel, Minute Earth) manages to repeatedly outdo our educational system in that regard.
@otto9141
@otto9141 6 лет назад
This is a relatively good video
@bayardop
@bayardop 6 лет назад
I think your comment happened before this video was posted. I SAW IT FIRST!!
@mr.j_krr_80
@mr.j_krr_80 6 лет назад
Get out.
@RoboBoddicker
@RoboBoddicker 6 лет назад
Actually, it's equally good in all inertial frames
@3ckitani
@3ckitani 6 лет назад
Bayardo Pinzon No, it happened simultaneously. You're just moving too fast.
@brendarua01
@brendarua01 6 лет назад
Mercy!
@MisterAppleEsq
@MisterAppleEsq 6 лет назад
“Simultaneously spontaneously combust” is fun to say.
@lyndawolf7532
@lyndawolf7532 6 лет назад
Mister Apple It is, isn't it?
@kindlin
@kindlin 6 лет назад
That is a pretty good one. I also enjoyed the title. Relativity of Simultaneity. Just saying it out loud is worth it once or twice, lol.
@5up3rp3rs0n
@5up3rp3rs0n 6 лет назад
At 3:10 I was expecting "simultaneously spontaneously" for some reason, probably because I'm used to hearing these two together
@identicalgd2446
@identicalgd2446 6 лет назад
Or is it?
@dqw4w9wgxcq32
@dqw4w9wgxcq32 3 года назад
Correct.
@thomas.02
@thomas.02 6 лет назад
Why do people simultaneously claim to be first? Maybe because in their worldlines they are first while they are in fact simultaneous to some other observer? Who knows....
@_Arminius
@_Arminius 6 лет назад
Good one :D
@Felishamois
@Felishamois 6 лет назад
can you uphold a beat simultaneously to a relatively polyrhythmic beat? watch?v=eQ3x2NSasg4 if you're bored with 3 against 4 and haven't got time for 4 against 7
@DPMixing
@DPMixing 6 лет назад
I’d venture it’s because these individuals’ lives are so mundane and dull that something as insignificant as being the first to reply on one of the billions of videos on RU-vid enables them an artificial feeling of accomplishment and self-worth that they feel should be acknowledged by complete strangers on the internet. But that’s just my hypothesis...
@Robert08010
@Robert08010 6 лет назад
Thomas Chow Maybe due to data compression, the space/time on RU-vid servers is not linear!
@JamesPetts
@JamesPetts 6 лет назад
A more pertinent comment, I suspect, than you imagined, since both the relativistic effects described in the video and what you describe are as a result of the fact that the dissipation of information (including information as to whether somebody else has yet posted a comment) takes time.
@phil8378
@phil8378 6 лет назад
I love this relativity series. It’s awesome that you’re making relativity accessible to people who would otherwise know nothing about it
@livewireOrourke
@livewireOrourke 3 года назад
"The takeaway here is that our universe has neither an absolute notion of time..." I tried explaining that to my boss last time I was "late" for work. Needless to say, it fell on deaf ears.
@vishnuvarma8019
@vishnuvarma8019 Год назад
Relatively speaking
@livewireOrourke
@livewireOrourke Год назад
@@vishnuvarma8019 Exactly, but that argument didn't work either. jk
@LeAdri1du40
@LeAdri1du40 6 месяцев назад
But there is 2 axis so that means no absolute notion of distance either. Both time and distance shrink or expand to accommodate relativity My mind is officially fucked up now
@WilliamDye-willdye
@WilliamDye-willdye 6 лет назад
For me, the "oh, I get it now" moment was at 2:18, when he connected relative event-time to relative position. Well done.
@JugheadJones03
@JugheadJones03 6 лет назад
Seeing stuff like this always makes me feel we are just living in an amazingly advanced graphic engine! : )
@eyefeelpineal2617
@eyefeelpineal2617 4 года назад
To an extent, we are :)
@karliesukowaty
@karliesukowaty 2 года назад
If you are talking about the quantum level…technically…you’re not wrong
@ewutermohlen
@ewutermohlen 6 лет назад
"Moving perspective" is a thing that changes location relative to another thing. I understand why some people don't get it, because they didn't watch and understand the previous video's. Great video on this topic, easy to follow and visually apealing.
@TaliesinMyrddin
@TaliesinMyrddin 6 лет назад
I like how the square thing moves stuff
@Emmylatif
@Emmylatif 6 лет назад
i'm learning so much from this series, I'm always checking your channel for new episodes. thank you for making this so simple to understand
@SoufianeSaidi
@SoufianeSaidi 6 лет назад
The Table you've made is incredible! Great work
@vtron9832
@vtron9832 6 лет назад
Space Time Grids should one day be as common as globes
@theramendutchman
@theramendutchman 6 лет назад
Agreed. I was thinking that throughout the entire video, it makes everything so much clearer having that physical guideline!
@bend.manevitz8261
@bend.manevitz8261 4 года назад
Someone (not me) should connect with the other RU-vidr guy who built it, make it more mass-producable, and it'll have a niche in all those science-gizmo stores and probably hasn't classrooms. Come to think of it, maybe I'll try to do it after all.
@ASLUHLUHCE
@ASLUHLUHCE 4 года назад
@@bend.manevitz8261 Are you serious about doing it?
@bend.manevitz8261
@bend.manevitz8261 4 года назад
@@ASLUHLUHCE I'd love to, but I don't even know where to begin
@2h74webere
@2h74webere Год назад
@@bend.manevitz8261 I found this today and FYI I would buy one for $100. MAKE THEM!
@shaillykeshari5408
@shaillykeshari5408 6 лет назад
This is a great series! You make great content.
@christianspradlin3929
@christianspradlin3929 6 лет назад
Fantastic job on these videos, I'm thoroughly enjoying them! As a student who took AP Physics 1 and is prepping for the AP Physics 2 test, this is an incredibly helpful review for one of the most confusing and unintuitive topics covered. My mind was blown when you made the comparison between the relativity of time to the relativity of velocity! Keep up the good work!
@pariterre
@pariterre 6 лет назад
This is an amazing serie, thanks for all off this important and educate work!
@anantdixit3831
@anantdixit3831 6 лет назад
so, did Han shoot first?
@aliensinnoh1
@aliensinnoh1 6 лет назад
That depends on whether you view that event from the theatrical perspective or the special edition perspective.
@matthewalexander9277
@matthewalexander9277 6 лет назад
Cause and effect still apply, so Han either responding to Greedo firing, or preemptively attacking, would still have to be a "One or the other" sort of thing I'm afraid. Relativity isn't going to bring the fandom together. =p
@anantdixit3831
@anantdixit3831 6 лет назад
That's assuming we know the causal structure of what happened. If we are trying to determine the sequence from observation alone, then we still don't know who shot first. :)
@matthewalexander9277
@matthewalexander9277 6 лет назад
Anant Dixit True, but Han’s perspective gives us a far more relevant answer. :p
@mihirbindal4012
@mihirbindal4012 6 лет назад
Yay.. finally. I was waiting for this video from long time. Seemed to me like an year. Maybe I am too fast.
@mihirbindal4012
@mihirbindal4012 6 лет назад
HettGutt, Henry is slow or maybe he is heavy.
@ozzyfromspace
@ozzyfromspace 4 года назад
this idea hit me while studying pdes in the context of fluid mechanics. glad to see other people thinking about it ☺️🙌🏽
@betulbaysal1465
@betulbaysal1465 4 года назад
i love space time grids so much! i have studied simultaneoity and time dilation ect., had understand somewhat.. BUT this representation was great, so clear! thank you so much for this.
@CrzyMan_Personal
@CrzyMan_Personal 6 лет назад
I'd love to see how Mark made that space-time globe!
@rakshitharsh6169
@rakshitharsh6169 6 лет назад
Einstein was great But your videos are awesome
@rakshitharsh6169
@rakshitharsh6169 6 лет назад
ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-mAOZ3XjHqsI.html
@rakshitharsh6169
@rakshitharsh6169 6 лет назад
How can you say
@typingcat
@typingcat 6 лет назад
If he's so smart, how come he's dead?
@YanivGorali
@YanivGorali 6 лет назад
Your videos are amazingly intuitive! Thank you so much
@jacomohodnik7161
@jacomohodnik7161 5 лет назад
It's pretty nice that this chapter is short and exists on its on. Because it gives us viewers time to let those concepts to sink in
@PKMKB93000
@PKMKB93000 6 лет назад
I understood everything but from 0:00 I LOST IT
@justinz.3993
@justinz.3993 6 лет назад
If I play this video at half speed do I understand twice as much or cut my learning over time in half?
@mr.lalnon5455
@mr.lalnon5455 5 лет назад
Yes.
@lackdejuranez7084
@lackdejuranez7084 3 года назад
Yes
@lyndawolf7532
@lyndawolf7532 6 лет назад
I really appreciated your special relativity series. Thank you so much for the time you put into it. Let's not get into who's viewing the time though. ☺
@lemniskate_ayd
@lemniskate_ayd 6 лет назад
Thank you very much! You can explain very well complicated things in no time!! I love your videos !
@abhishuoza9992
@abhishuoza9992 6 лет назад
Take that, people who comment 'first' !
@JeremyMcMahan
@JeremyMcMahan 6 лет назад
You win today's Internet!
@TommoCarroll
@TommoCarroll 6 лет назад
Agreed, Jeremy McMahan
@suwinkhamchaiwong8382
@suwinkhamchaiwong8382 5 лет назад
‘first’ !
@jcez4008
@jcez4008 5 лет назад
Blue shirt kid ?
@H4XO5
@H4XO5 4 месяца назад
Do the boxes not burn at the same time but it just takes light longer to reach the other person to 'notify' him of this since the boxes are not the same distance away from him?
@jensphiliphohmann1876
@jensphiliphohmann1876 6 лет назад
I really love these videos - and I love the amazing Lorentz-transforming device.
@davidwoek3041
@davidwoek3041 3 года назад
As a first year physics student, this visual representation is very, very helpful. I liked this video before I was studying it, now I REALLY like this. Thanks! :)
@feynstein1004
@feynstein1004 6 лет назад
Lovely video, Henry. But I CAN'T believe you didn't give us the full story. Relativity of simultaneity only works for causally unconnected events. If event A causes event B, then all frames of reference will agree that event A happened before event B. In terms of spacetime diagrams, relativity of simultaneity applies only to those events that lie outside an observer's lightcone. This basically means that these are (causally) irrelevant events and it doesn't matter (to you) which event happened before which, because neither event can affect you.
@natasharoddy
@natasharoddy 5 лет назад
I'm pretty sure in previous videos he mentioned that no mass can move at or faster than the speed of light, and as you stated, causality is preserved in all inertial reference frames so long as velocity does not equal or exceed c.
@PropheticShadeZ
@PropheticShadeZ 5 лет назад
Also he avoided acceleration which is good
@jessrevill1852
@jessrevill1852 5 лет назад
Some things are not too hard to understand until somebody tries to explain them.
@steve1978ger
@steve1978ger 4 года назад
Consider c the speed of causality, represented by the 45° lines (or rods of the globe), which never change regardless of transformation. You can now look at the different boxes, and see what events could have been causally linked in your original perspective, and which ones could not have been; and you can see how these relation of possible and impossible are preserved after the transformation.
@askemervigbahnson333
@askemervigbahnson333 5 лет назад
I have a question: when we say two simultaneous events are no longer simultaneous from a moving perspective, do we then mean that A: they actually happen at different times or B: They still happen at the same time, but the light from the events hits us at different times?
@colejohnson260
@colejohnson260 5 лет назад
Both of your answers are correct - given relativity, the time that it takes for light to reach us defines how we view simultaneity. So, if two things happen the objectively same time then they given some viewpoint can happen at different times. Hope this helps, not sure if what I said makes much sense.
@SchrodingersPlatypus
@SchrodingersPlatypus 4 года назад
@@colejohnson260 Hahaha mad person too
@KiemPlant
@KiemPlant 4 года назад
Yeah, I was confused about this too. Because if you would be traveling towards the moon from Earth at c/2 as soon as the explosions would happen simultaneously from a viewpoint on earth wouldn't they also be simultaneous from the moving perspective because of the light having to catch up to you? I litteraly can't stop thinking about relativity anymore which is the reason I went back to this video. It's driving me nuts...
@OldGamerNoob
@OldGamerNoob 6 лет назад
Thanks so much. After scraping my mind off the walls watching fermi lab's description of time both space compressing and synchronous stuff being out of sync, I just HAD to see it on the Spacetime Globe (TM) to get my head around it. Great stuff.
@kinomora-gaming
@kinomora-gaming 6 лет назад
You made this concept very easy to understand, and, the best part is, it seems so simple.
@saultcrystals
@saultcrystals 6 лет назад
How out of sync will events be when observed from 10 billion light-years away or on opposite sides of the observable universe? Since objects at this distance have incredibly high redshifts (i.e., they're moving away from us incredibly fast), how does this affect the apparent distortion? How successfully have astronomers and astrophysicists incorporated these effects into their observations, calculations, theories, etc.?
@thedeemon
@thedeemon 6 лет назад
Expansion of the universe is governed by general relativity equations, not Lorentz transformations, so the effects are different there. There is indeed some time dilation (and it was observed for distant galaxies), but I'm not sure how simultaneity is affected. Good question!
@agiar2000
@agiar2000 6 лет назад
So, if from perspective α, two events can be simultaneous and yet not simultaneous from perspective β, then it also follows that a scenario can be arranged whereby, from perspective α, event A occurs first followed by event B, whereas from perspective β, event B occurs first, followed by event A. Does this introduce problems with causality? Could the scenario be such that someone with perspective α reasonably conclude that events A and B are related, and that, since they are related and since A occurred first, then A _caused_ event B? If so, then such a claim would be nonsense to perspective β, since it is a premise of basic causality that effects cannot precede their causes. This seems vaguely reminiscent of the sorts of paradoxes that arise when one hypothesizes reverse time-travel, wherein one could take an action to cause or prevent something that had already happened.
@Arkalius80
@Arkalius80 6 лет назад
No. If there are two events, A and B, separated such that A is before B and something could move from event A to event B at some speed slower than light (or put another way, there is a valid frame of reference where A and B happen at the same location), then A will precede B in all reference frames. The time between them may change but it will always be greater than 0. Conversely, if the relative ordering if events A and B is frame dependent, then there is no valid reference frame where A and B happen at the same location. It is the difference between spacelike separation (first situation) and timelike separation (second situation). The border between them is lightlike separation, events that can be neither in the same location nor occur simultaneously (and for which the order in time is not relative).
@agiar2000
@agiar2000 6 лет назад
Arkalius80 Thank you for the excellent answer!
@DerguteZweck234
@DerguteZweck234 6 лет назад
Space Time Globe.. Nice! The first time for me to see such a "complex/mindboggling/hard to grasp" matter illustrated in such an easy/intuitive way. Brilliant is what it is. Thanks for that!
@dancarlson9248
@dancarlson9248 6 лет назад
Outstanding and most enjoyable way to take in such a generally difficult subject. What teaching skills! I can only imagine the time and energy expended to have developed and created this 3.47 Minute video, but as one in the audience i greatly applaud you for having done it. Thanks very much. Whatever it is you do for a living i sincerely hope it has something to do with teaching :)
@yusefdanielhassounharmouch1520
When will paradigm (i think that was the channel's name) be available to other countries?
@viliml2763
@viliml2763 6 лет назад
never.
@theramendutchman
@theramendutchman 6 лет назад
Wait, what are you talking about?
@biomattic9816
@biomattic9816 6 лет назад
Fons the Magnificient minutephysics new show is region locked to th US
@PuffyRainbowCloud
@PuffyRainbowCloud 6 лет назад
WTF? That's ridiculous.
@Xardis
@Xardis 6 лет назад
Fun fact, Lorentz transformation is a matrix of rotation with hyperbolic sinus and cosinus.
@oreole9608
@oreole9608 6 лет назад
What is sinus
@someolddude3858
@someolddude3858 6 лет назад
Oreole1 I don't know in some other modern language than English, but in English, any mathematical use of sinus and cosinus are incorrect snobbish affectations, apparently derived from some Latin mistranslation of a medieval Arabic math term.
@TheRABIDdude
@TheRABIDdude 4 года назад
Oreole1 a sinus is a bone cavity which gets filled with snot when you have a cold. Glad I could help :)
@AlmightyXI
@AlmightyXI 6 лет назад
You quoted Mark Rober but it felt more like rewatching PBS Spacetime's episodes about spacetime all over again, even down to the diamond shaped grid you used to represent spacetime. Also "relativity of simultaneity" best phrase ever!
@luckynater
@luckynater 6 лет назад
Man, I love this series
@itsrudetostare673
@itsrudetostare673 6 лет назад
*Pretends to understand whats going on*
@adityabhat4523
@adityabhat4523 6 лет назад
Have you watched the previous videos?
@M-N00
@M-N00 6 лет назад
me 'n' pure thank you for clearing that up for us
@jackmckeown1013
@jackmckeown1013 6 лет назад
I think its hard to grasp not because of the math involved or the concept. Its trying to picture the same event appearing to happen in two different times.
@neutronstar6739
@neutronstar6739 6 лет назад
Azmen thx for making it clear.
@typingcat
@typingcat 6 лет назад
I have a PhD in understandology.
@JeffreySushi
@JeffreySushi 6 лет назад
> “world line” >steins;gate confirmed
@kyles7430
@kyles7430 6 лет назад
Well, steins;gate took inspiration from physics
@guaymaster
@guaymaster 6 лет назад
Physics are a Jojo reference
@benfrizzell1244
@benfrizzell1244 6 лет назад
I think that literally every time he says World line XD
@vivekthomas8
@vivekthomas8 6 лет назад
guaymaster Za Warudo line.
@mandalamarcho8060
@mandalamarcho8060 6 лет назад
Mmmmmm i think i saw weeaboo here
@zacharyhodge3065
@zacharyhodge3065 6 лет назад
This video and the space time globe are awesome! Helped me better understand special relativity, and it's just fun to watch and listen to these videos. Thoroughly enjoyed this 😁!
@basilg695
@basilg695 4 года назад
I NEVER KNEW THIS AND I'VE BEEN WATCHING PBS SPACETIME TO LEARN LARGER CONCEPTS BUT IM MISSING FUNDAMENTALS LIKE THIS BECAUSE THERE IS JUST SO MUCH TERRITORY TO COVER. AHHH THANK YOU ❤️❤️❤️❤️
@DysnomiaFilms
@DysnomiaFilms 6 лет назад
I've never been so early... or so confused...
@SmartinatorPlus
@SmartinatorPlus 6 лет назад
DysnomiaFilms ya same here
@PropheticShadeZ
@PropheticShadeZ 5 лет назад
What specifically didnt you get? Its a bit of a mindfuck, but if you take the assumptions it should be easier
@Ndo01
@Ndo01 6 лет назад
This is some crazy shit
@JRexRegis
@JRexRegis 6 лет назад
it helps if you visualize the events that are moved horizontally on the time axis as all being present on the time axis. so the box isn't a bit to the left and further up, it's just further up. same with the person, you can see how relatively, less time passes in one second for blue than for red, because blue's instances are closer together. we can do this because time is one dimension in our universe, not two, so events can only be on the w-axis.
@lucasf.v.n.4197
@lucasf.v.n.4197 5 лет назад
Amazing explanation! Now I have some intuition of special relativity; can't wait to see general relativity
@yusefdanielhassounharmouch1520
Minutephysics, a question, shouldn't the universe in its early state have merged into several black holes considering that it was so dense?
@nekoma7194
@nekoma7194 6 лет назад
Yusef Daniel Hassoun Harmouch It was like a black hole in the sense it was a singularity. But, weirdly it was not a black hole. Do you have a background in General Relativity?
@ewutermohlen
@ewutermohlen 6 лет назад
Yusef Daniel Hassoun Harmouch The universe didn't end up like that, this means that the expanding force was to big for it to happen. But several blackholes did form in the early stages of the universele though, hence the supermassive black holes in the center of galaxies. However no one really knows exactly what happend, it all is just a theorie after all. We may discover something new that changes our theorie.
@yusefdanielhassounharmouch1520
Ouma Shu not really, but i understand more or less some of the stuff, is it necessary to understand the answer?
@mr.j_krr_80
@mr.j_krr_80 6 лет назад
Yusef Daniel Hassoun Harmouch it's always cool to know.
@yusefdanielhassounharmouch1520
Mr. J_Krr_ that's my motto! (not really, but from now on i will say it is)
@mihirbindal4012
@mihirbindal4012 6 лет назад
Isn't Lorentz transformation similar to Eigen vectors and Eigen value?
@thedeemon
@thedeemon 6 лет назад
no
@ChenfengBao
@ChenfengBao 6 лет назад
A transformation is not "similar to" some vectors and values, that's comparing apples to oranges. The word you're looking for is "related". The Lorentz transformation is a linear transformation that has eigenvalues and eigenvectors, and its eigenvectors correspond to light rays, which is expected since speed of light should be constant under this transformation.
@klausedwin
@klausedwin 6 лет назад
This brilliant machine makes relativity much easier to understand. Thanks to your both.
@accouswk
@accouswk 2 года назад
One of the very few videos on RU-vid I have to watch at reduced speed!
@donat880
@donat880 6 лет назад
this hurts my brain
@ExhaustedPenguin
@ExhaustedPenguin 6 лет назад
is there a game where these effects are exaggerated?
@thedeemon
@thedeemon 6 лет назад
www.testtubegames.com/velocityraptor.html gamelab.mit.edu/games/a-slower-speed-of-light/
@supercables251
@supercables251 6 лет назад
Just finished velocity rapter, good gosh that mind fuck
@OverlordZephyros
@OverlordZephyros 6 лет назад
Im amazed at that box dude. Way to simplify something hard to grasp.
@karansapolia2676
@karansapolia2676 6 лет назад
I am loving this Special Relativity Series! Awesome! This should be a Grade 6 Physics 101. Much needed for the modern science kid.
@Kredige
@Kredige 6 лет назад
If relativity ruins simultaneity, does it also ruin causality? If two events take place right after each other in time from one worldline, could the order of the events be reversed after transformation to another worldline? What if the object, said events happened to, was moving?
@kyles7430
@kyles7430 6 лет назад
This is where the speed of light comes in. MinutePhysics hasn't covered it much/at all, but on the "globe" the x=t line is the speed of light. Causality is preserved for all events that are within this "light cone" in the region between x=t line and the t axis. You can only observe a change of order for things that would require FTL signals (which we assume are impossible, preserving our idea of causality)
@LordPelegorn
@LordPelegorn 6 лет назад
causality is a basic principle of physics that must not be affected by the reference frame so even though the order of 2 completely unrelated events might be reversed depending on your own movement relative to the events a event that happens because of the event before will always be seen as after iirc it is because for there to be an "influence" of the first event to the second information has to travel from the first place to the second (with max the speed of light) meaning that the time between the events themselves is at least the time it takes light to reach the second place after the first happened
@igorbednarski8048
@igorbednarski8048 6 лет назад
That would happen only if you went faster than light. This is one of the problems with FTL travel - a spaceship with warp drive would seem to arrive at a destination before It left (from some frames of reference)
@redjr242
@redjr242 6 лет назад
This is a fantastic question. It relates to the geometry of flat space-time and the invariance of a distance metric, called the spacetime interval, under Lorentz transformations. The sign of the spacetime interval indicates whether two events could be causally related to each other. If two events can be causally connected (light has enough time to travel between the two), then the order of these two events is the same in all reference frames. If two events cannot be causally connected (light does not have enough time to travel between the two), then there exist reference frames where one event occurs before the other and vise versa.
@mitchellchyette6537
@mitchellchyette6537 6 лет назад
Good question! The replies don't really answer the question (IMHO): If A observes two events as simultaneous, A can conclude that Event 1 did not cause Event 2 because "c". But if B observes Event 1 occurring before Event 2, then to B it would be possible for Event 1 to cause Event 2. Also, is there a frame of reference where everything is simultaneous? Would that occur if the observer is travelling at "c"?
@fbifbi1740
@fbifbi1740 6 лет назад
Time to make .myself feel smart by noding my head while he says big words
@JediNachos
@JediNachos 6 лет назад
Might be my favorite video from this channel.
@JochCool
@JochCool 4 года назад
2:15 That helped me so much in understanding this.
@it_was_my_cat
@it_was_my_cat 6 лет назад
For people who don't quite understand, I find it helpful to think of time propagating at the speed of light. This is in essence true, since the fastest information about an event can travel to you is the speed of light. For example, if we look at a distant galaxy, we are effectively looking back in time.
@nekoma7194
@nekoma7194 6 лет назад
CozmicK G Yeah, you might have it easier in that way, but you might get a bit stuck later. Consider this. The Lorentz transformations are very very symmetrical in space and time. If time moves at the speed of light, then so does space, but that messes things up. Doesn't it? Being a physicist, let me tell you something. Forget that there is something called a flow of time. Just think of time as a coordinate. That will actually help. You can even explain simultaneity like this! If you are stationary, you are more in time, and less in space (your world line does not move on the space-axis). Now, someone is moving wrt to you. He is less in time and more in space. This mismatch of relative time and space causes things to be not simultaneous for him if it's simultaneous for you. Cool isn't it?
@nekoma7194
@nekoma7194 6 лет назад
German Pepe Exactly. See, it explains more than just meets the eye. It even explains why light bends twice as much around the sun as it should be.
@alphaq6316
@alphaq6316 6 лет назад
97% of people don’t understand
@ohyeahyeahimasian392
@ohyeahyeahimasian392 6 лет назад
Biniam_ Boss i lost him at 0:00
@srinivasaraokoppula2132
@srinivasaraokoppula2132 6 лет назад
does that mean i am in that 3 percent. i know i am genius
@Sax4565
@Sax4565 6 лет назад
"it's science so it's difficult to understand"; come on guys :D
@mr.j_krr_80
@mr.j_krr_80 6 лет назад
Say you don't understand. Don't push it on other 96.99999% people.
@wat5361
@wat5361 6 лет назад
Please be joking
@macbuff81
@macbuff81 6 лет назад
I love that box! Very creative and intuitive. I want that globe
@KekusMagnus
@KekusMagnus 6 лет назад
man that's a really neat Lorentz transform mechanism
@tanijahanarabarbhuiya6084
@tanijahanarabarbhuiya6084 6 лет назад
Can this comment Stay up I swear its my assigntment HELP ME!!
@lutfalasker5371
@lutfalasker5371 6 лет назад
Hey are you the lost poo!
@d1st0rt037
@d1st0rt037 6 лет назад
First To like my own comment 🤣
@whosmaya666
@whosmaya666 6 лет назад
But... I.... You didn't...
@jakemiller4291
@jakemiller4291 6 лет назад
The reply to your comment has more likes that the original comment about liking your own comment... or something.
@PydraxAlpta
@PydraxAlpta 6 лет назад
Jake Miller No longer true
@tremen2140
@tremen2140 6 лет назад
Depends on your frame of reference
@Ihteshambaig
@Ihteshambaig 6 лет назад
First To hate you! Just kidding, I am fifth.
@Hillelize
@Hillelize 6 лет назад
Very good to spit such hard concepts in this pace. It makes suddenly science super clear and so easy to understand. The funny thing with those videos is that they give the sense the explanation was friendly but you understood zero.
@Les537
@Les537 6 лет назад
simultaneously spontaneously. When you said that I almost had a seizure. Nice.
@anthonymichael3110
@anthonymichael3110 6 лет назад
Excelente explicación del relativismo, simple y al punto.
@colinwilliams7666
@colinwilliams7666 6 лет назад
Just watched this before heading off to my physics final. Thanks for the last minute help, Henry!
@vignotum132
@vignotum132 3 года назад
It isn’t called ”minute” physics for no reason
@TheTURKISHDELIGHT98
@TheTURKISHDELIGHT98 6 лет назад
I understood that time appears different when you go fast but I never understood why till this video thanks can’t wait for the next one
@firstnamelastname4752
@firstnamelastname4752 2 месяца назад
I really which you explained that moving box thing better. I had to watch multiple times before I realised I was supposed to be paying attention to the centre line to see the frame of reference.
@zef3k
@zef3k 6 лет назад
This certainly helps with understanding of general movement. Although we can't witness events happening ever at a time that can be considered 'true' surely we must be able to say that two directly-controlled events happened at the same time, even if that can't be factually agreed upon by observers. Unless I'm mistaken this is specifically speaking of observation of motion, not actuality of motion. Which I'll admit is also susceptible to frame of reference, but kind of like how c is so large as to not matter, generalized location should be exact enough to be able to work out for actual movement, rather than observed. I think the difference is important. e: Reading about superclusters this quote seems to make sense to my point "The biggest cluster in the observable universe is called the Great Attractor. Its gravity is so strong that the Local Supercluster, including the Milky Way, is moving in a direction towards it at a rate of several hundred kilometers per second. Speeds at this cosmic scale are measured relative to the Hubble flow frame of reference." It seems specific frames of reference are considered more exact, kind of like different methods of dating artifacts are more specific or exact.
@afnanm9564
@afnanm9564 2 года назад
because of this explanation, i now feel like im on top of the world!, thanks to you and mark!
@vinicius-barros
@vinicius-barros 6 лет назад
Guys, I thought you were good before but this video brings it to a new level. Thank you for sharing knowledge in such a simple, efficient and funny way.
@LTdrumma
@LTdrumma 6 лет назад
how did you make this so easy to understand, youre a genius. well we all knew that already
@ezralevino3845
@ezralevino3845 6 лет назад
I LOOVE THIS SERIES
@bonbondojoe1522
@bonbondojoe1522 4 года назад
Very nice visualisation!!
@deeptheory6598
@deeptheory6598 6 лет назад
Nice work Love your channel
@SishGupta
@SishGupta 6 лет назад
Feed me more! These are great!
@Zweistein001
@Zweistein001 6 лет назад
Your space-type globe really needs to became a teaching accessory.
@kitrana
@kitrana 6 лет назад
yay more of this!
@Alex-fr2td
@Alex-fr2td 6 лет назад
love the series
@ashokdarbhe5664
@ashokdarbhe5664 6 лет назад
1.10 its not the box on right that combusted first, its my mind , my mind got blown watching this. I do not have any words to describe it. Just amazing...
@ankitroy6380
@ankitroy6380 2 года назад
Man, this is awesome!!!
@balajisriram6363
@balajisriram6363 6 лет назад
Loved it as usual 😀
@jdanielcramer
@jdanielcramer 5 лет назад
That globe is so cool! I hope to have one sometime...🙃
@MEBVishwaS
@MEBVishwaS 3 года назад
I know this channel for three years. But I didn't see this till now!! How of this are still there??
@LordDecapo
@LordDecapo 6 лет назад
I like the way u did your Xs in this. Its minor. But it's a nice change to make reading it a bit easier.
@ilyagershman8516
@ilyagershman8516 6 лет назад
Thank you so much! I finally get it :)
@horariojoselo7178
@horariojoselo7178 3 года назад
I would have never understood special relativity if I hadn't had this video, cause I don't have the time or the resources to study physics in college. So thank you MinutePhysics. Thank you VERY VERY much!
@jedijeremy
@jedijeremy 5 лет назад
Nice work as usual! But... I suspect a lot of people are going to misunderstand an important part of what's going on here, and conflate the concept of light propagation delays for what the Lorentz transform really means. It's very easy to write it off as "what appears simultaneous for me appears not for you because you're at a different _distance_ ". If two supernova go boom, and I'm in the middle, it _seems_ simultaneous for me, but obviously if you're closer to one of the big badda-booms, that one _seems_ to come first. I think you need to make it a little more clear that spatial distance is irrelevant... if the 2nd observer is whooshing past you at significant speed and barely grazes your elbow (so you're both basically at the same position, but with a different velocity) they will STILL see the ka-booms happen at different times. Isn't that the key point that causes sane people to question their entire concept of reality, and you hear the delicious sound of brains breaking? Not "I was over here and I saw something different" but "How can we be disagreeing when I WAS THERE TOO?" ...did I get that right?
@robertbrandywine
@robertbrandywine 3 года назад
You were right, most people here are confused about that point.
@TheHumanHades
@TheHumanHades 3 года назад
I liked the series very much as a student who knows very less about special relativity but please use the position on y axis and time on x axis as it gets very confusing otherwise and I think many people like me would have faced the same problem.Please try to implement that in future videos. Amazing series though 😀
@leosousa7404
@leosousa7404 6 лет назад
Thanks! Good series! ; )
@RamiShreds
@RamiShreds 6 лет назад
How many parts are you planning on doing? I want to watch all of them at once after you're done but I don't know when to start watching lol
@eaceves
@eaceves 6 лет назад
MInd blown...I got goosebumps watching this video because I was able to understand.
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