You can turn the shot cup upside down to hold the shot in without having to seal it. I've done it plenty of times but I usually just spend an hour or so punching cards from cardstock or fiber sheets and use a candle to seal with melted wax, criso works also. You can use about anything for over shot wads.
Well done, I load similar but use cork over powder, the 12 gauge wad as you know is way too small for the inside dia of the brass hull, the powder when ignited just blows around the seal, a couple cork wads will stop that and act as wipers for fouling.
Hey don’t make fun of the shot you made that was pretty cool stuff you did there. It gets the job done that’s all that matters. I thought that was pretty self-reliant
Cool video, i’ve read where when they make shot they just drip it from a 40 foot tower and then when it hits the water at the bottom it’ll already be around then they just sorted by size, I was thinking about getting some of those brass shells what is the best brand, so far Federal shoots the best in mine
That hot glue actually makes a bigger mess in the barrels than a plastic wad will. I cleaned a lot of melted plastic glue out of my barrels trying your method. I’ve roll crimped since.
black powder does not weigh the same as pyrodex. 100 grains of fffg goex black powder weighs about the same as 76 grains of pyrodex ( on the scale) but they both fill a 100 grain powder measure (they have the same volume...they take up the same amount of space). So you have to use a measure not a scale for them to be equal.
You're doing everything you SHOULDN'T do to load a brass shell with pyrodex or black powder. Yes, the shell will go bang BUT you're velocities will be VERY low because you do not have enough wad pressure using only those plastic wads. What you should use is over powder nitro cards and cushion wads with an overshot card all in 9 ga made by circle fly wads. They form a tight seal in those brass cases. You can still use the plastic shot cup with the power piston cut off over the cushion wad to hold the shot pattern tighter. Then seal with the proper over shot card. I've killed pheasants out to 50 yards using this method. They hit the ground dead. You need to have the proper pressures to get decent velocities. Take the advise from a guy with over 35 years of reloading experience.
The 12 gauge wads are to loose. I now use 10 gauge as mentioned by the company and it works nice. I find loose wads cause hang fires or they even cause the powder not to ignite. Thanks.
@@northernwoodsman I think you are missing what he is saying. Yes yours work but if you would like a higher, more consistent velocity you should have a tighter seal. It shouldn’t drop right in. A little packing of the powder would help. What would it hurt to try what others have suggested?
I tried doing something similar but the powder didnt ignite at all (i used modern smokeless powder, fast burning. from bottom to top: CCI large pistol primer > gunpowder > carboard-disc > t-shirt material (as cushion for the shot) > shot > cardboard-disc > sealed with a layer of wax that i melted on it. It didnt work, just spat my 00buck halfway through the barrel. any opinion or idea?
@@northernwoodsman oh ok, so you think the materials i used are okay? Wax instead of glue is ok and cardboard instead of cork and so on? I just need to find something that would fit as a tamper iron and compress the powder more? Because i used a pistol barrel from a softgun and used that to lightly stamp the powder, but maybe it needs more preassure?
I have shot black powder with plastic wads and it absolutely does fill your barrel with plastic. I literally couldn’t get the crap out even with solvent AND a brass brush. Over time it just degraded, I think maybe because of the solvent, and started to curl up and peel back on its own in little strips. I will never use plastic with black powder again.
@@northernwoodsman Maybe it’s related to the amount of powder I used. The loads I was doing were loaded with hard steel ball bearings in a Winchester AA trap wad over a hefty charge of 2F and a muzzleloader 209 cap from the sporting goods store. In some cases they actually melted the hull a bit and I was forced to back it off. They shot pretty well until the barrel fouled with plastic and accuracy went to shit🤷♂️ My plan for these brass hulls is to just load them like huge rifle rounds with a bullet style slug like would be shot in a Paradox gun through a rifle choke
Many people mock Pyrodex instead of B.P. but In this day and age it is hard to get most of the time. I've never had an issue with Pyrodex in my B.P. rifles. Never. Good video 👍.
When moisture gets in the fouling its worst then bp. So People are hesitant to use it in antiques. And you also need to convert the amount from 2f black powder.
@@northernwoodsman I've had issues with pyrodex fouling when shooting in humid and wet conditions and pyrodex does not work in pistols and cap and ball revolvers as well as black powder. I'm lucky and there is a gunshop that actually sells genuine black powder here and i can buy black powder at $18 a pound vs $32 a pound for pyrodex here. Black powder cleans so much easier for me especially in my small bore long rifle.
Hey do you know if these work with modern pump actions, i dont see why they wouldnt but i buy reloading components in bulk and i wanna know before i test it, if you dont know and have a pump next trip out to the woods if youre up for it try it out and let me know. i know theyll fire but cycling might be an issue. Thanks in advance
They work fine. They are 2 5/8 in length. They make mini shells now that offer low power and those cycle in pumps. If you keep the brass clean, they will last forever.
Northern Woodsman thanks, they seem to be exactly what I’m looking for then I’ll have to place an order soon, how much did you pay for yours just so I can know if I’m getting price gouged cause of the virus and to wait
i've seen a video where a guy just used ripped up cloth from a shirt as a wad, would you recommend that or is it too dangerous/unreliable in your opinion?
A shotgun shell is just a modern muzzle loader... Anything works. You can shoot rocks. Black powder, à rag, and pellets makes a nice cheap load as long as the powder is compressed
@@northernwoodsman thanks for the fast reply, i own a shotgun from 1878 so I'm gonna have to reload my own shells because old guns can't handle smokeless, your video has been great help
@@jorda229 I wouldn't shoot bp in old guns. Just for rust. It's not great. I don't shoot bp in any of my guns and they are old. Smokeless is way more controlable and you can have a load for each of your needs.
@@northernwoodsman i heard many people recommend against using smokeless due to higher pressures even if you reduce the load, many old guns use lower quality steel than what we have nowadays so I'm worried about the barrel blowing up if i use smokeless
@@northernwoodsman i also have a revolver from 1871 in 32 centerfire and i use black powder, had no problems with it apart from having to clean it thoroughly after every time i take it to the range
air space with black powder is no a good idea!! Look muzzleloader shotguns the gunpowder load is compressed, try to put a wads after gunpowder and compress them with a stick o something with the same diameter of the shell, sorry for my English is not tood god 😊
He means a square load of Shot and Powder (using the same measure) is ONLY for black powder. Doing that with smokeless with turn your 12 gauge into a bomb real quick!
Geese. Stop loading like this. Volume to volume shot to powder. NO SMOKELESS POWDER -------EVER! After the correct powder charge, you must have a tight fitting OVER POWDER NITRO CARD, NO PLASTIC. 2 cushion wads, shot the over shot this card. You may use glue on over shot card.
I made about 15 12ga buckshot rounds in plastic hulls while watching this video. They will all perform better than this nonsense, because the powder is compressed. SMH.
I made it the point where he states you don’t have to resize the hull, unless you shoot them in different bores. How do you shoot a 12ga hull in a 29ga? Gauge is the bore. He should state different actions/guns. Then I read the comments, people like this fella, shouldn’t be putting their lack of knowledge out for others to use.
He’s saying different 12 gauge shotguns have subtle difference in machining. Once you shoot your brass it will fire form to your chamber on that specific gun. If you put that same hull in another 12 gauge gun it could be tighter etc.
