I Just ordered my 5950x on alternate (german online Shop) despite it being Marked with an unclear shipping Date. Got it 3 Weeks after Launch, so im pretty happy.
I was already happy when 1st gen ryzen came out, now... I still am cuz my 1500x is still running waaay better than my friends 6th gen i5 when it comes to general gaming, I can play a game, run the server and watch youtube, meanwhile my friend is getting 100% cpu utilisation and stuters whenever he has anything running besides the game
@@harrison00xXx better for a company to take 8 years to surpass intel than being stagnant like intel has been. And the new cpus with price increase performs similar or worse than previous gen.
@@kaptain1477 Imagine why Intel could be that lazy and anti customer. I mean only 2 companies in a monopoly is bad, but only one like intel was for nearly a decade is worse. AMD was lazy af therefor allowing intel to rip off customers more. I can understand the "regular" customer these days, but i easily lived with my older AMD as long as possible (6 Core, was futureproof anyways) and i bought as late as possible a used i7 for cheap, i also didnt want to support Intel anymore. But lets be real, before 2010/2011 Intel was pretty fair to us customers. Only think about the Core2Duo/Core2Quads. Ofc the Quads were already expensive, but damn the latest Duos were cheap af and gamers choice Nr. 1 for a good price and OC of like 5Ghz were easily done like with my C2D E8400 these days. Served me well until games began to profit from Quads and more which were also some years. AMD was a customer friendly company in some ways, but these days are gone since they bought ATi and it was getting worse since 2010/11 around, Phenom II CPUs were incredible, but with the FX6000/8000 CPUs and forward they were dead for me i saw this somehow coming with the FX ones.
@@harrison00xXx i really like your anology and i can say intel only became anti consumer just because amd did not bring anything "new" to the table and to be honest if you bought a sandy bridge i5 2500k or i7 2600k i think you had one of the best cpu till 2016
Lisa Su becoming CEO is the best thing that ever happened to AMD, congrats to all the team at AMD, I rarely ever comment on a video, but I must say, this is seriously seriously impressive, I was expecting them to take the gaming crown, but I was not expecting the 5600X to beat the 10900K. Wow AMD, that is an amazing job
Imagine the price and performance of Intel's CPUs without AMD being there.. pre-ryzen AMD were very very close to bankruptcy. Ryzen has been great for them, but also the consumer, who ultimately benefits most when intel can't sit back and rest on it's laurels like they have done since before skylake. What is clear is rocketlake is another bandaid on skylake again effectively and until they get 10 or 7nm working in volume they're in trouble.
@@oneproductionman Intel has no one to blame except themselves, without ryzen, we will be stuck in forever 4 core 8 thread and creeping up price with no real performance gain. Monopoly in its worst show.
@@cryochus4074 Yea I hear stock for them are getting better but apparently it's the 5900x and 5950x that are still uncommon due to the 2x CCX design. Still flaky online but that's seperate.
that was the whole idea of repeatedly saying the "Fastest" in everything because they already knew that these CPU's dominated hence the joke and foreshadowing this video
I feel like that was on-purpose, like fore-shadowing for the launch of the 5000 series to beat it soundly. They already knew it just embargo'd into silence.
@@spaceriot23 That's the point, if you make all of the competition look incompetent and can make the claim (and back it up) that you have the highest performance, you will sell more of everything. This has been happening with nvidia, ever wonder why their 1060 took over the market even though the 470/480/570/580/590 had the same performance? Its because nvidia had the spotlight from having the performance crown, hopefully the 6900xt is competitive enough to bring AMD some more attention.
"Holy Shit!!" would you look at that performance in CS go, that is over 200 more frames per second, Dr Su please they're already dead,stop kicking them. That part got me LOL
Intel has been doing that for the past 10 years, and now everyone is suddenly forgetting that? What AMD is doing to Intel for the past year, Intel has been doing to AMD for the past decade, but it seems people have goldfish memory.
@@ChrisHuppey yeah, Intel's last great generational leap was in 2012, when they launched Sandy Bridge, which had a 20-25% better IPC over clarkdale/arrandale ivy bridge to haswell which was 10%. Skylake+ was another 10% jump. But they have become pretty marginal In the last five years. Where people have really forgotten is how intel pulverised AMD with the core launch as well as the disastrous FX. They only tend to remember AMD of 2005, when they were pulverising intel.
@@derbigpr500 Intel performance really hit a plateau over the last like 5 years or more I thought. My work pc got upgraded over like a 6 year old model and the cpu performance only went up by around 5-10%. Though yeah from core duo and upward they really took over for a while.
Daaaamn AMD They are like the weak nerdy kid who straight up grew up to be a mega chad Intel is like the most popular kid in school who got married early and stuck in an office job with a failing marriage
Ill slightly modify that for you. Intel is like the most popular kid in school who got married early and stuck in an okay paying office job, while the wife stay at home and screw the pool cleaner And then she will clean Intel out as they forgot a prenup :-)
My phenom x4 965 was good for single threaded games it destroyed world of warcraft to this day i still cant play it at 144 fps locked everywhere like i could back in the wrath of the LK days.
Linus: "Please AMD, stop kicking Intel's ass. They're already dead!" AMD looking at Intel: "How many times do we have to teach you this lesson, old man!?"
I am no fan of Intel, but 2020 Q3 for team blue looks like $19.2bln revenue, $4.3 net income. Team red $2.8bln revenue, $0.39bln net income. Intel is ten times larger than AMD and very, very long time from being a corpse. AMD needs to get the sweet, sweet data center cpu market share.
@@honza970 Unfortunately fanboys only understand the numbers 5, 7, and 9, and occasionally with an X in there somewhere. It makes no sense that financials as rock solid as Intel's would get a negative reaction. Hype consumerism, hype market. But eventually the leapfrog cycle will continue.
@@mangoman667 the problem for intel is that its investors for some reason appear not to care about their financial solidity and sell their stocks beceause everyone turned to be AMD fanboy, i guess
@@mangoman667 heard of hype capitalism? South sea company ring a bell? IT-factory? Of course not, because your clueless...intel makes fat stacks off OEMs, when those OEMs start selling more and more AMD systems, they switch..and then intel is left with some truly terrible corporate culture! AdoredTV got intel insiders feeding him info on their way of treating employees, and the way intel do that is a joke
remember when intel launched there $1000 extreme CPU that got beat by a ryzen threadripper CPU that cost half its price $500? and intel STILL kept the price at $1000 and wouldnt lower the price ? yeah i remember that too. pick intel if you like to get rooked
@@zealix1016 it's called competition and it's a good thing for consumers. We just have to hope that 11th gen can actually beat 5000 series. From intel's awful presentation it doesn't look great, but we'll have to wait until it actually releases.
@@ememmeme8722 bruh the ARM apu on raspberry pi can't even run Golden Eye 007 on N64, what makes you think a Source game can run on it -_- EDIT: unless you are talking about 'OG' Counter Strike, i would guess would hit around 20 to 50. but CSGO 1080p on raspberry pi running at 500FPS is an absolutely unvalid statement
Intel has wasted so much money trying to get smaller manufacturer process why didn't they just buy a company already using 7nm they certainly have the money no?
Yeah I'm not sure how they're doing this either. Makes me think Nvidia and Intel are extremely inefficient. Intel I can kinda understand because they're a far more diverse company and they also have their own fabs. But fighting Nvidia too? That's a surprise. I almost 100% expected their GPUs to take a massive beating this generation but it looks like they'll do just fine.
@@xIcarus227 They are not really beating Nvidia though, I think they are about on the same level, looking just at the architecture probably a bit behind. Nvidia cheaped out on the process this time, using Samsung 8nm. If they go to 5 nm Samsung or TSMC it would be harder for AMD. Intel on the other hand is just lost :D With a CEO that has just finance and no engineering background Intel is are getting nowhere.
@@rolfyt yeah that's true, even though we don't have independent reviews Nvidia isn't really being beaten but they're putting up a very good fight. Honestly at this point beating the 3080 on a similar price is enough to keep competition going, considering that the 3090 is in an unappealing price league.
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Been rocking my 5900x since 2021. Love my cpu, will probably even skip am5 socket and wait for am6. I do plan on upgrading my 3070 before even touching my cpu. Thank you Mrs. Sue ❤
@@evenrik_2214 So you prefer insane temperatures, higher power draw, more kernel exploits, having to upgrade motherboard every year and staying on 14nm for the 6th year? Its nothing to prefer with intel lol.
Meh, more than willing to spend more cash on reliability than AMD that constantly has BIOS and driver issues causing even their top of the line products to have constant lag and crashing issues. Can’t relate with being too poor to pay for quality, reliable hardware that hasn’t failed me for a decade. Good to see that latency issues with the Ryzen will be supposedly resolved with this however, but who knows how true that would actually hold until people start making complaints when they actually get their new product
I've had my fair share of both platforms and I've enjoyed both for different reasons, but I still very proud of how far AMD has grown. Moving from an i7 6700K to the Ryzen 5900x and I'm looking forward to it
@@Andrewinmelbourne Pixels true. Intel had 10-30% performance lead from amd but the priced doubled or tripled. Rumor said intel's 15th gen coffin lake will have 5% better performance than amd 7000 series, on their own benchmark, but way high price point.
@@braidontennant Lol yeah it is. all independent benchmarks show that Verizon totally destroys Intel and even the low end ryzen destroy intel in single they
Dr. Su climbs to the top rope and BOOM!!!!! FLYING ELBOW DROP!!!! 1..........2............3.. LADIES AND GENTLEMEN YOUR NEEEEEEEEEEEWWWW GAMER CHAMPION!!!!! A....M....D!!!!!!!!
@@piuspenguin4593 He needs to wait a little until the Radeon cards are made public, and test the boost joint performance that can't be done with NVIDIA GPUs.
The specs of the best pc should be: Ryzen 9 5950x 2 times a Rtx3090 128gb ram 2tb ssd Power supply 2000watt NZXT Kraken Z73 360mm Motherboard:ASUS ROG Strix X570 Case:NZXT H510 NZXT AER RGB 2- 120mm 3 of them And NZXT AER RGB 2 - 140 mm two of them So if your gonna make this pc can you like give it to me because I play on the Nintendo and yeah and all of my friends have a pc and I don’t
I wouldn't say back-pedalled. There were probably legitimate reasons as to why it wouldn't work. It is fantastic though that older boards now support it.
Just stuck a 5600 into my b350 today. Its crazy, i had a 2500K before 1600 and that thing was ancient by 2017, and now im just casually putting a new processor in my 6yo mobo
Well, I really don't see the improvement in a practical sense for gaming. With nowadays resolutions and powerful GPUs, you rarely see CPU usages jump over 50%. So I say Intel is still a solid choice, considering that it is now cheaper than Ryzen 5000...
I just upgraded from early 2017 flagship (i7 7700k) to an entry level 5000 series (5600X) and it is so much faster! Must admit buying a 7700k was a pretty dumb move when I got it! I'm just stoked that I can upgrade from here on my AM4 motherboard, hopefully even to Zen 4 when it comes out! (I've got 3 direct to CPU pcie gen4 m.2 slots on this motherboard too... going to have some fun with that down the track! 2 years later, just upgraded it to a 5700x and overclocked to 4.75Ghz and removed power limit.
Hasn't Jim Keller gone back to Intel? I think Intel will probably develop a whole new architecture from scratch. AMD will probably be ahead for the next 18 months but you wonder how much mileage Zen has in it and what will come after Zen 4. I have a 3600X and I'm very satisfied. AMD only have to be near intel or Nvidia and cheaper to keep winning.
@@pavelcuba9260 While it's true, Jim Keller is the man who made Athlon what it was, too. He just knows what should be done, but I think Lisa Su had a hand in it, too. Just look at Radeon, Raja was holding them back, and she took over Radeon development teams and the Radeon 5000 and 6000 series is worth paying attention to now. Raja went to Intel and helped them make Xe and barely managed to get Intel and Intel dedicated GPUs to even compare to low end Ryzen APUs.
This increase in competition between intel and AMD is a good thing in fact for both of them. If we didn't have AMD, then with the pace of Intel's slow advancement it would have been surpassed even by SMIC(China) in a few years ,and then it would have been a real death knell for Intel. At least with AMD Intel can mantain parity and actually compete if they pull their pants back up.
AMD uses germanium in his cpu that's why they get 7nm faster, but germanium tends to last less, that's why and cpu is rated to last 5 years of intensive use and intel 10 years. Intel is not behind, And change the rules and sell a product that is better in the paper but can be worst in the long run.
me too... overpriced, once more overhyped CPU which is running already in the absolute limits at stock meanwhile even the heavily pushed Intels still got headroom
9:01 Update on the Compatability with B350 / X370 boards: Most manufacturers introduced a new bios where the old Bristol Ridge APUs where removed from the support list to make room for the 5000 series. For exmple: The MSI B350 Pro VDH (a relatively lowend B350 board) supports the 5000 series with that bios.
What are you talking about?? AMD is now more expensive than intel (at least in my country). If you (as most AMD fanboys) live in dreamland where AMD are 'good guys' giving more from less is better to sobering up. AMD IS na WILL be very expensive - as every company on the top.
Overpricing and underperforming their products, you mean? Let's face it... Intel has been dying for a long-long time -- five-six years at least -- and it's only since Zen 1 in 2016 that we've seen the full picture of just how abysmal Intel really is and has been for so many years.
@@plm8108 Blind fanboy... Cheapest R7 AMD costs 1500 PLN in my country, and it is more expensive than I5 10 gen. I'm sure you will buy AMD for every price (I have AMD CPU) but I really don't like fanboyism.
@@mwmv921 Listen this is how it is, if you want maximum cpu speed and performance to price, but most people don’t want that and if you do want that you already have a rtx 3060 or 2000 series or a 5700XT
I am so glad that the 5950X went on an amazing sale a couple of days ago and I was able to get one for $378.52. I'm assuming that something like Blender and Unreal Engine 5 won't be too much stress on it, especially when paired with my Radeon RX 6750XT
@@crylune I am not saying AMD is bad because they try to make (more) money, not at all. It's just for me their CPUs have been an easy choice to save money over Intel for all these years, even if it wasn't always the best performance/$ but just a decent performance for a low price tag. But it's not a case anymore. I don't like how $300 CPUs now becoming 'a budget level'
@@JohnDoe_x0 thats mostly due to two things, 1: cpu and gpu companies are both duopolies. intel and amd, nvidia and amd. they can make prices whatever they want due to little competition. 2: r and d costs are not the same as they were 15 years ago. cpus and gpus were MUCH less complex back then, and the fabrication they ran on was just as cheap. nowadays even the research of these things much less the fabrication costs a hella lot more as they become more and more advanced.
@@JohnDoe_x0 Oh, for budget gaming the 2000 series is still fine 2600/X and 2700/X go for around 90-170 bucks when buying them used it's more around 70-140 bucks
