remember when Cosmo was kinda smart? (pt. 2) 

I feel like his IQ even reached triple digits!

@@Eldoofus I would argue he was street smart back in the day. but then they doubled down on his dumb moments and turned him into that.

@@henrymcbark7337 Yeah, reverse character development

yes

But then poof came and it went downhill from there

Me too

Hay I made a monkey Me: Nani?! Cosmo can do that

I honestly prefer the original version than the one we got

I also prefer Vicky not being an outright psychopath and just being a teenager who goes a little power mad when she's in charge of other kids.

Yea, he looks more like a father, but they made him so stupid that basically Timmy could parent him

Cosmo was money smart. Makes him more inteligent.

Cosmo eventually just became a humongous dumbass that's a danger to everyone around him

​@@wotthat8539 wtf

@@sarubet8725mega man

@@Boamere It comes January 7th.

Same

bro knows how to build streets fr

since people are brain rotting everything i might as well want to see a cosmo that is skibidi smart

And one the rare occasions he actually made Wanda glad to be married with him

How do you find these earlier episodes?

@The Flying Scotsman !!! Appreciate it pal 😁

they used to really act like a married couple.

I do miss the "two halves of a whole idiot" thing

Honestly, watching this show as a kid I never really liked it, I only liked the bright colors. I guess it could have actually been watchable in the earlier seasons but I completely despise this show now. (the voices also drove me crazy, they sounded like they were hyped up on... some kind of drug XD) That's not the point, tho The creator himself is very sexist and kind of a womanizer. I think in the later seasons maybe they tried to go for different vibes. I remember an episode where that little brat wished for all the women and girls, including one of his fairies (I'm assuming that's Wanda but i forgot names), to be sent on another island... I also remember an episode where the male fairy got pregnant, and I'm a little concerned why all the female characters, especially the young girls, are like dumb or mean! Like, that Butch Hartman guy must have not been very popular with the ladies in his life. I saw a video where he was kinda flirting with and teasing one of the voice actresses, and he also has the biggest ego ever rn but it's mostly about his art. I'm not telling you to hate the show, I'm just saying I had a bad experience watching it as a kid. The episodes I remember made me feel so awkward, but I feel like they were the more recent ones. (I don't like telling people my age on RU-vid, but I'm in that 18-21 age range) Maybe the older ones aren't that bad but it still makes me cringe.

yo that and the video game one those were the shit!

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@@jocelynecupcake you know the funny thing is, the style his work is associated with? Butch didn’t even make it. Steven Silver did, it’s his unique style! Steven Silver is one of the greatest character designers of all time, look him up when you get a chance, and it might save some of your childhood :)

Indeed

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@@MJ03H AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

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They have been married way longer then most couples

*was

@@Delightfulshallot they live forever so the beginning of time

correction *was* wholesome.

@@kermitgotthesickkicks4265 right

wym proof wasn't bored yet

@@thefreshestboywiththeperfe6869 he means he was a better father figure to timmy.

If poof was around back then, what do you think they look like?

@@roboticartist2793 egg

Imagine that when poof was around cosmo and Wanda like their pilot selfs

I KNOW RIGHT? One of the key reasons why the show went downhill is this

Ikr?

That's a good way to put it

FAIRLY ODD parents, not fairy god

ikr

Married dorks > abusive couple

yeah but you didn't realize the peak of comedy...wife bad

@@theshockinglyeloquentdog9945 and dumb husband

Same thing with family guy with Peter and Lois lol

@@theshockinglyeloquentdog9945 bro 😭

Now we're 2 ☠️

Oh nooooo We're 3 now lol

The Skibidi Toilet

Were 4

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Maybe they could've granted those by trying to give him a valuable lesson (in fairy logic) Then failing. That's what I would've done, because this character dynamic would have been sacred on day one.

Right, cuz kids want no depth 😑 Which is why they try watching adult cartoons before 12. And the kid friendly stuff ends up on the back burner. This Cosmo would have kept comedy and kid friendly, not just a idiot for comic relief

@@UntitIed123 Timmy was Basically Depressed before Cosmo and Wanda bruh

@@UntitIed123 Guess kids don’t deserve good quality writing. Cause kids are too STUPID for that. /s We should just take out all the story from shows such as ‘Avatar | The Last Airbender’, ‘Bluey’, ‘Batman the Animated Series’, ‘NinjaGo’, etc. That’s how you turn shows such as ‘Teen Titans’ into the drivel that is ‘Teen Titan Go’. Dumbing down kids shows is so insulting. Children understand much more than they’re given credit for. There’s a huge difference between making things age appropriate, and dumbing things down. You can be goofy, and silly, without insulting your audiences intelligence.

@@UntitIed123 and kids need to be exposed to better media. See what’s happening to the ones raised on cocomelon?

@@donovanulrich348 people forget that these shows WILL shape our next generation greatly. Flashing lights, stupidity, nonstop movement? That raises what tiktok children are

Cosmo: "No!... Money Down!

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I mean, he hit on a high school girl right in front of Wanda. If you think that's healthy, you must have had a rough childhood

@@neetpride5919 where in my sentence did I say *that* was healthy? I was making a statement not an observation.

@@neetpride5919Thats not rough at all you sheltered little pansy

Skibidi toiletTtttttTTTtttt

Yeah it sound, like an awesome idea.

yea fr

@@NostalgicHearts tbh, not quite sure. That was the og premise and for whatever reason they chose not to stick with it and made him an idiot instead.

@@im_not_sincere8413I see…I prefer this Cosmo personally

What a missed opportunity. Also his voice in later seasons is so fucking unbearable.

"I married the smart one!" "i married the...well he's cute, right?" Yeah, those were WAY better and funnier than what it's turned into.

For real! It really shows how different Oh Yeah Cartoons and first season Cosmo is. The Cosmo in the later seasons is such a far cry from the Cosmo who genuinely loves Wanda and defended her against his mom when she wanted to end their marriage

Yeah it's too bad Butch decided to go full boomer with their relationship.

Oh I know, they were so cute ☺️✨

And Cosmo "had" poof... weird af

No bro...

Yeah brooo​@@woopro1234

I hate you

This comment cursed

Shut up

my reaction when butch hartman

I agree the dumb dad thing was overused at that point

Casmo was much more annoying in the actual show. But this Casmo is so much better. He actually contributes to the show.

I honestly wish that contrast was kept in the long run. God damnit Butch.

Both his parents are dumb and negligent

IKR

I think I'd loved it even more with Cosmo being chill and Wanda being more in a good mood but not in a exaggerated way

I hear that they change Comso’s personality just to differentiate him and Timmy’s Dad. That decision was pointless since Comso and Timmy’s Dad still ended up being so similar with each other, but now they’re both brain dead.

But we would have never gotten mpreg Cosmo

@@VolkColopatrion and here I was hoping I wouldn’t have had to remember that.

Sorry that wish is against Da Rules

Please.....just......DON'T!

Ahhhhh-!!!! Brrr skibidi bop bop bop yes yes skibidi dop dip dip

​@@rodrigoterrein4599Stop it gets some good content

What’s weird is. He was always voiced by the same guy. Daran Norris. I have no idea why he changed the way he talked in later seasons.

@@Forbiddensirenz It didn't fit the direction they wanted to take the character. So I'm sure he stopped voicing cosmo that way because cosmo was meant to be a more useless idiot rather than an overconfident goof.

@@justinoverstreet1119His character was annoying tho

He had such natural rizz with that voice

@@christianguest63 his rizz was so damn strong it even made Vicky faint

Ikr

@@elisabthmekonnen4913 It was. It started out as one of the short features on Oh Yeah Cartoons in the late 1990s before getting a proper series in around 2000 or 2001.

@@phatcat3705 and do you know that Tara strong and grey Delisle were in the 90s

Yea she deserved better

@@romeamirii then you must be a newbie.

He was more street smart rather than book smart, but you’re right about him not being the brightest

As far as I'm concerned it only lasted in season 1.

And season 2 and 3

I do remember an episode where Cosmo was making smart decision that even Wanda was getting turned on by him. Tho by the end of the episode he goes back to his goofy self

This is what he was like back when it was a short on oh yeah cartoons.

that hard 2 rite dum joke ezier must make more season

it also wouldve made more sense as to y Wanda stayed w Cosmo too

@@justliving920 i made 100s of jokes for there relationship when it was like that, so i don't know what your smocking.

Early Cosmo was S Tier, he was unbelievably good

Yeah but then you wouldnt get absolutel mass genocide cosmo

Yeah, my immediate reaction was something along the lines of “yeah, that’s a much more fitting look for that voice.”

Before there was Handsome Squidward, there was Sexy Cosmo.

He litterally has a rectangle head 💀😭

@@Ant_Gaz those jawlines

​@@Ash_Queen16 more like jawbricks

Skibidi skibidi skibidi skibidi skibidi skibidi 💀☠️

it's giving jet set radio

Probablt easier for the voice actor too

They were initially portrayed as almost newly weds with the amount of affection they showed. Also while Wanda was obviously smarter, cosmo wasn’t a Moron, they were both rather naive about certain things, but ultimately they were like parents to Timmy

I miss those old days so bad I have no idea why they felt that making a dumb husband would be funnier

@@soontobechannel743 exactly. Dumb cosmo is sooo annoying. Timmy’s high voice is so annoying

@Klaxon Laboke it has been a few times.

@Klaxon Laboke do that and you’d have a bunch of people trying to cancel the show

LMAO

shutup l0ser

It was so adorable the way they would flirt with each other honestly, very wholesome

So remove the comedy from the show?

@@CheeseMiser you don’t need to have cosmo be a complete brainlet to have comedy. The show worked well without him being brain dead

@@CheeseMiser So Dumb=Funny

@@yourstrength1314 Bad move on the writers' part IMO. I might've been on purpose because I did read an interview with Butch Hartman, in some special magazine back around 2003, where he mentioned turning Cosmo and Timmy's dad into total morons, so he was well aware of the change/flanderization.

@@phatcat3705 I agree As a Kid I never really liked fairly Odd Parents the characters were too wacky which made them annoying, they dropped the ball by changing the Original Characters.

Imagine all the Tumblr porn there would be if they kept the voice.

@KennyMk3045@ I’ll respectfully disagree about Bloo. Whereas I feel that making Cosmo dumber made him worse, I loved Bloo as a dick. He became my favorite character, whereas in that pilot movie I didn’t really like him that much.

I agree his older voice was perfect for the comedy

@KennyMk3045@ I don't think Cosmo ever really become selfish and obnoxious as Bloo's level, he did take good care of the reckless idiot part though.

I'm fairly sure this is Phil Hartman, and unfortunately he could only be used here as he was murdered by his wife in the late 90s. :(

If you want to hear the deep voice more, he voices Knock Out in Transformers: Prime

Easy come easy go i guess

daran norris did both versions of cosmo’s voice, it’s amazing

Dark schneider was cosmo at one point damn

I knew someone would say that

zoomers demonstrating their idiocy

Agree with most parts except being worse than his actual parents.

Guess you could say that they’re… fairly odd.

I wouln't call them dysfunctional but rather cartoonish, the bases of their relationship are still there but it's just overreacted.

You could say they're... fairly odd.

True

Cosmo became retard Wanda became wife

I believe the original idea was that Cosmo was supposed to be more street smart. While Wanda was supposed to be more book smart. It really sucks they threw this dynamic away, it would have been so good. I honestly think Cosmo is a bit annoying compared to his original counterpart.

Yep

Flanderization implies they took something from the original.

It wasn't really that Wanda was crazy and more just still adjusting to being a fairy for kids. Which given the backstory later established, makes sense with this Wanda more than the one from later.

I know it'd be Cosmo

Season 0 was different than the remainder of the series.

@H bruh no just cause she’s a woman?

@@sina7256 why imply that as the reason? "H" didn't even mention it

@@sina7256 Because Cosmo is more romantic that way..

Though a problem with them always being sleuthy about it is that it made their presence with Timmy boring. Seeing them at least occasionally veer their heads from hiding made sense since they can magically become anything. Sad it just turned into them being used as various disguises.

I like Timmy being rude.

The fairies could be around people because they were having a costume party, they thought they were kids

Too vague on wishes? When Timmy wishes to be the most wanted man in America, Tweedle Dee and Dumb make him wanted by the authorities when not one minute before he was talking about being rejected by women. How the hell do they flub that up? Who in their right mind confuses being wanted by the police over being wanted by women in that context? That was on them.

they became parodies of themselves

Feminist agenda at it again

@@TheSpy149SPLEENS

@@parthernnixxart4623 EEYYYY sup fellow GSP fan

*Cries about one trope just to insist on another* Like are yall just too young or you don't remember. Both parties can be not dumb and have actual personalities. But that requires good writing.

I was hoping for either that or a Bob's Burgers-esque dynamic.

I almost mistaken he was Anti Cosmo

I think it’s more of a non issue since crazy wishes are a rule infraction or monumental bad ideas, like the super wishes. I don’t think any Godkid has them but super bike and super toilet were traumatizing so they shouldn’t have them either. Plus Cosmo and Wanda are “Two halves of a whole idiot” they help balance each other and make wishes better, but they are very error prone when solo. Like in the clip a vague wish of a manly costume, Cosmo’s interpretation left much to be desired.

Would you mind if I used this topic for a future video essay? I'll give you credit for bringing it up

@@Skainz69 Sure, go ahead.

I think Timmy was given two fairies because his life was so much worse compared to others, so yes he has the advantage, but simply because he was given the short end of the stick

@@Breadward_MacGluten Honestly tho, when you watch the show I wouldn't say his is worse than other kids. I mean, at least in the beginning, his parents still loved him and were good parents, they just left him with Vicky (who babysits other kids). So I think the theory about Cosmo and Wanda just working better together makes the most sense

do you know why he’s so sophisticated? like the context

​@@lanastoleyosubs because nickelodeon didn't time travel and drop when he was a baby

Right? We were robbed hahaha

Tumblr doesn't need another one, and this is still a Butch Hartman cartoon. There would be definite conflict here.

@@a-s-greig 😂😂

I still thristed for him when I was 16, I just love goofy guys🤪

@@a-s-greig I feel like the tumblr sexyman days are over, the last one that caught on was reigen and that was like 2016

Lmaoooo definitely.

Right? I would imagine it would have been like those old sitcoms like "I Dream of Jeannie" or "Bewitched", but in a modern age.

@@tomboyangel78 a month late but I definitely agree with this lol

Damn, you hit the nail right on the head lol

Try to give the Fairly Oddparents a more serious tone.

yea...

Yeah Mordern Cosmo Sucks

I love that. They’re such a cute couple, omg.

Wanda used to be a RU-vidr???

@@Annihilated64-13yearsago darkest Timmy Turner theory's that will ruin ur childhood

It also says a lot about why Nick isn't the same beloved kids channel we used to know and love nowadays.

Cosmo losing his intelligence wasn't caused by writer's burnout, otherwise he would have been smart for the entire first few seasons, and probably even longer. That was a specific decision made early on by the writing team. I imagine it was caused by an attempt to make the show's humor more slapstick in order to appeal to children, especially considering the show was amassing a pretty large child demographic at the time.

context aside: i watched some of the very first episodes of fairly odd parents and i could immediately tell a MASSIVE difference, things were much slower paced back then and abit easier to watch without cringing every 5 seconds

These clips are from before season 1 so it’s not really flanderization. The Cosmo we all know and love was the dumb one from the early seasons 1-6. This surprisingly predates that

...Cosmo always was dumb...

The difference is Patrick post sequel had some of his older character restored when Hillenburg started writing for the show again

I've seen this happen to a lot of characters, not even just in cartoons. Goku is literally braindead these days when back in Z he was just naive but still had a lot of clever and cunning moments. Now he's just extremely one dimensional and dumb as a rock.

@@triplecrosscounter exactly. This is why I hate Goku now. He went from an expert combat martial artist who was actually pretty smart to a braindead idiot who feels like your generic main anime protagonist. Super ruined his character for me

Like Peter Griffin

"Its funny cus he's stupid" and "he's stupid so it's funny" are two very different things

I guess Woke stuff started a lot earlier then we thought

It has nothing to do with being woke. Wanda wasn’t stupid at any point. Cosmo was just made dumber because of lazy writing.

@@adrianisawaffle_738 I know I was joking

That exact thing *is* the gender stereotype and has been for over 50 years.

@@tailsprowerfan2729 god that word is annoying. People really be throwing that word around all willy nilly

Same voice actor, he just uh has good range

They didn't change the actor. He just ended up doing Cosmo with a higher voice

He plays both Cosmo and Timmy’s dad, he wanted to differentiate their voices more, but I think I would’ve been smarter to just keep this Cosmo voice and either keep Timmy’s dad’s voice the same or re-cast him

what?

Ikr

esque siempre mostraron a cosmo picaron pero cambio a ser completamente estupido aun asi nunca dejo de ser un don juan.