6:52 Superman was able to hold a miniature black hole into his hand but keep in mind that the Black Hole he was holding could have destroy the whole entire solar system.
Comics are dumb sometimes. Superman a miniature black hole in his hand wouldn’t negate the gravity. Even if Superman himself is unaffected it still will wreak everything around him including the earth. Lol.
Cap speed superman is faster than time heat vision is like 99999999999999999999999 to the point hot 🔥 as infinity strength he one sot A MULTIVERSE I mean dude don't down play Superman he is god of superheroes
@manoftomorroweditor Obviously Superman wins.What did I just say When in Earth in that comment?Did I ever downplay anybody?How the actual hell did you think On the video that was saying Superman, that's a comment, does says. Yeah, this isn't a fight".Where did you think in that yesterday I say superman loses
6:38 Superman can benchpress or shoulder press the weight of the earth for 5 days straight with only single drop of sweat around his forehead. he did this without using sunlight which gives him his powers and that wasn't even his limit that's only scratching the surface of his strength.
Ottley/Kirkman saying anyone from Invincible beats Superman is just because it gets ppl riled up.. as a massive fan long before the damn show Invincible and nobody in his universe is touching Clark
6:24 Superman lifted the Book of Infinite Pages because it gets downplay unfortunately and people try to debunk it and say that the Book has a Definitive End when infinity can have a end and have a start or the beginning however the second debunk that the Infinite Book had is that Superman has accomplish is that Ultraman did it alongside Superman who is literally just an Evil Variant of Superman that is relative for this aforementioned Superman keep in mind that the Book of Infinite Pages contains every storyline and fate of an outerversal construct that is beyond time-space and dimensions entirely.
I remember more than few people who thought Omni man and even Homelander could beat Superman because they’re evil and therefore wouldn’t hold back and are more willing to be ruthless. Because you’ve got to be a bloodthirsty psycho to be a good fighter I guess. As if Superman wouldn’t kill your if you gave him absolutely no choice
Don't know where you got that Viltrumites get stronger after they almost die thing from, but no, you might be getting them confused with Saiyans because in the Invincible universe that's a power unique to Allen the alien.
@@l0sts0ul89 yeah I think my thought process behind that is that as a viltrumite gets older and goes through more battles they just keep getting stronger and stronger
@@l0sts0ul89I'm pretty sure that's because Mark has access to adrenaline so he can push past his strength limit when that fight or flight reaction is unlocked
@@Lagonbreezey It's never explicitly stated, but we can pretty easily infer that Mark also has Allen's ability to become exponentially stronger through surviving near-death experiences. Mark at the beginning of the series cannot hold a candle to Nolan, and gets absolutely shit on by his dad. Later on, Omni-Man gets low-diffed by Thragg. By the end of the comics' story, Mark is fighting on equal grounds with Thragg and manages to defeat him by throwing him into the Sun. He also later goes on to knock Allen onto his ass when they're having an argument over whether to preserve the Coalition of Planets. If it's true that only Allen gets the power boosts when coming back from the brink of death, how does it make any sense that Mark dominates him during that little scuffle and makes him yield? Between the first fight with Nolan, and the final fight with Thragg, Mark gets walloped to within an inch of his life by a bunch of opponents, and actually literally dies at one point after Thragg effortlessly rips him in half, only to then get revived by Eve using her reality warping powers. So, it's safe to assume that he also got these same near-death-experience zenkai boosts that Allen got, even if it's not explicitly stated.
11:43 Superman is not inherently weak against magic. It affects him like it would affect any other person in other words this context the magic doesn't consider the science of Superman cellular behavior or his invulnerability this means he is vulnerable just like anyone else it's not a specific weakness it's important to understand this distinction. one thing about a weakness is the Green Kryptonite which fatally saps his strength and the second is Magic which only knocks him like a magic bullet. But not weak against it.
4:09 Superman can travel to the other side and the center of Earth within 60 days which is impressive given that the DC Universe is repeatedly mentioned as being Endless and Infinite already given him massively faster than the Speed of Light to infinite flight speed.
6:24 The Book of Infinite Pages that contains every storyline and the whole existence of the DC Multiverse within it. While Superman himself did lift the Book. Ultraman did lift the Book and not only he was equal to Superman but was shown to be symmetrical as him meaning Superman can perform this feat and Ultraman stated that he read the End of the Infinite Book so again Superman can do the same as well.
Captain Marvel (Shazam) is generally a 50/50 vs Superman last time I’d checked as far as his win/loss record goes since Billy technically has infinite stats but doesn’t think he needs to actually be that strong.
Bro supermen isn’t even the strongest hero in DC bro and he’s this strong and Doomsday is not a clone of Superman lol and Omni man didn’t destroy a planet by himself lol he’s not that strong he destroyed everything on the planet but not the planet. And the DC universe is way bigger then ours.
@@DirkDiggler334You could also try to scale omniman to omnipotus who absorb the energy of multiple solar systems but that is not even going to help because superman is everything Omni man is but on crack. My pecking order is if Omni man cannot get past Goku(let us be honest he can't) their is no way he is touching superman's (like his super breadth isn't overkill already)
ok but what about superman va thragg or battle beast?? and by that logic you’d have to include mark at the end of the series, who had faces thragg TWICE and survived. not to mention if eve locks in and fks around with his atoms he’s lobotomizes (only theoretical ofc)
6:24 The Book that Ultraman is holding contains the fate and storyline of a Archetypal Outerversal Macrocoism way beyond than dimensions. one must be able to lift the book before reading.
Depends on the Superman. 1960's and first era superman? Clapped by O. 1970's? Stands a better chance. Still clapped. The movie Rendition around the 80s, that rewound the planet by a coiple years? Eh... it's a W for superman, but not a heavy win. 1990s on, Superman just has so many over the top incarnations that the DC fanboys just meld him into one being... We only see about 2 versions of Omniman. Comic vs Show.
Cap the only Superman who would probably lose is Golden Age. Precrisis and every iteration after would wreck Omniman like it was a joke. Not to mention either Silver age or golden age fought one of the later Superman's and almost destroyed reality as a result.
I think the whole debate is stupid because there is multiple supermen. It isn’t as though one can act like the most powerful supermen are the only ones that exists. There are supermen that can solo the multiverse yet there are others that are nearly killed from a nuke.
@@DirkDiggler334no, it’s not confusing. If not specified then they are taking about the current canon comic version of Superman at the time the question was asked. I am sick of people asking “which Superman?”
Fanboys are the worst they overhype their characters and it's annoying. Like I'm a huge Batman fanboy but even I know he needs plot armor to beat Superman. Omni Man isn't beating Superman at all Superman is just too overpowered. Every character in Invincible gets squashed by Superman. I love Invincible and DC but the fanbases are just annoying.
didnt the creator of invincible or something say that Mark could beat superman? even tho thats kinda bullshit, its what the creator of the character said, which means Omniman is better by default.
Pretty sure he directly stated he only says shit like that to make people angry to get more attention on Invincible. And even if he was serious, considering he doesn't own the character of Superman, he has about the same authority as a 12 year old making an oc and claiming he beats all of fiction.
Something to consider: Wonder Woman, despite being far weaker than Superman, has routinely bested him in combat due to her superior training. We can assume Nolan scales to Wonder Woman in combat expertise and strength, based on similar feats. With that in mind I feel like the fight would play out like this: Omni Man rushes Superman, surprising and momentarily winding him. Superman assumes mind control or some other manipulation has befallen Nolan and holds back, trying to incapacitate Omni Man. Omni Man gets in more hits on Superman and attempts a throat chop or other move capable of incapacitating. Superman realizes he needs to actually fight back against Omni Man, so he freezes his limbs and hits Omni Man with the _exact_ amount of force needed to knock him out instantly (Superman doesn't want to hurt Nolan, just stop him from potentially hurting somebody else). Superman wins with a bloody nose because he was holding back, Omni Man's knocked tf out on the ground. Should Omni-Man plan ahead, he'd be able to effortlessly acquire kryptonite from Lex Luthor, who would plan to have Omni Man kill Superman, then kill Omni Man (who is far weaker) himself, and immediately end the fight by depowering and overwhelming Superman. Lex would then come along and absolutely wipe Omni Man using his battle armor as he has no more need or want for him.
I can actually see that playing out, although I know lex is a genius and is very manipulative idk how susceptible Omni man would be to being used like that he has been alive for thousands of years I would assume that’s left him a certain amount of wisdom.
The thing is Wonder women Herself admit she lose to superman Omniman also lack speed or power to hurt superman while Wonder women do so even if we Say hé can matche superman can skill will not work Superman is also good fighter who got train by Wonder women who had feats of beating trillions year old gods in combat while omniman is million year of combat ( still better than Clark ) I also dont tink kryptonite will help that mush as superman beated Lex Armor by a spit
youre crazy to think omni-mans strength scales to wonder woman and even crazier to think omni-mans skill scales to wonder woman, they do not have comparable feats
Okay, every other thing you said about super man is just sounding like something fanboys made up😂😂 the changes super has gone through over the years is wild. Its almost as if fhe authors are giving him all these powers just for the sake of argument like this. My MC is stronger than yours. At this point, that's not even a super man, that's a super god and the logic doesn't add up, that a universe made a being like that..of anything he should be the one making the universe. And this is why i don't take arguments like this seriously. At least invincible and the early forms of superman are still grounded in some form of logic
Only when there's emotional tension, like the need to push through for his loved ones. God I love how genuine and earnest Superman is but he can get a bit silly sometimes@@hulkbelowall9532
so Viltrumites are knockoff saiyans, boring. Superman could just stand in one place and tank the hits of Omniman like he does with machine gun fire and wait for him to just get tired or something
It's that it's fun to think about how the fight would go. Plus some of the cool factor is the power level, so understanding just how strong someone is can make them cooler in one's eyes.
