Remington Under Fire: CNBC Investigation 

From 1:30 thru 2:00 the reporters finger never left the trigger. Just plain bad gun safety whether loaded or not. CNBC FAIL.

Remington should absolutely deal with this issue but people need to be safer with firearms.

The CNBC guy is talking about its design flaws while he has his finger on the trigger!

The fuckin reporter has his finger on the trigger while he's talking about gun safety???

I feel bad for the parents, but the mother had a loaded weapon and pointed it in an unsafe direction. Firearms safety teaches you to always know what is behind what you're pointing at.

I’ve taught firearm safety for 19 years. There are 4 absolute rules to be followed when handling a firearm. The first rule is the most important of all. 1. always point the muzzle in a safe direction. Always. You’ll never hurt anyone unless you violate this rule. 2. Always treat a firearm as if it’s loaded. That means you check every single time you pick one up, even if you just laid it down. Make it a habit. If someone hands you a gun and you don’t know how that particular gun works , do not accept it. Ask the person to open the chamber and show you it's unloaded and how to safely operate it. 3. Know your target and beyond. Hitting what you shoot at is great but it doesn’t end there. The target is the first thing you want to shoot. But a safe shooter is aware of the last thing it may hit too, and all points in between. 4. Never put you finger in the trigger guard until the moment you intend to shoot. Period.

Something I learned in the Marine Corps, at the range, at the armory, at the guard shack, several places, we had barrels with sand in them to clear our weapons. I have a 5 gallon bucket at home and I use it for that same purpose, point the gun at the bucket where the sand is when charging a round or clearing the weapon. I highly recommend it for anyone who owns a gun.

This happened to me when I was 15. I have a Remington 700 and it went off when I disengaged the safety. I was dear hunting and was getting ready to unload my gun, in order to unload it or take the round out of the chamber I had to take the safety off. I pointed the gun into the woods away from our campsite I clicked the safety off and boom it went off. Everyone insisted that I pulled the trigger, but I knew I did not. For years I thought that some how I touched the trigger but could not figure out how it was possible. After I watched this I got the gun out and tried to replicate it after about 20 minutes it happened. I now know that I did not touch the trigger and the gun did go off when I just disengaged the safety. I'm just glad no one was hurt, and I followed the basic gun safety rules.

Don't want to sound insensitive but this why there is more than one rule when it comes to safe firearms handling. Its not enough to just take your finger off the trigger you need to make damn sure your loaded rifle isn't pointed at anything you don't intend to destroy finger off the trigger or not.

THATS WHY U POINT THE BARREL IN A SAFE DIRECTION

Why is everyone so butthurt about this video’s topic? It’s not anti-gun, its pro-consumer safety! I’m a gun owner and I’m mostly opposed to gun control, but however that doesn’t mean gun manufacturers shouldn’t be held accountable for mechanical failures and defects.

that’s crazy that they can recreate the issue, while the camera is rolling. I’ve always wanted a 700, our snipers in my old unit used them.

never point your weapon at anything that you do not intend to destroy. I'm sad for the mother who shot her son but if the barrel was not pointing at him then he would still be here

At 17:34 5.5 cents would be about the equivalent of .90 cents today. From the company's point of view, it probably would be too expensive to fix. Profit over safety.

first rule is safe direction, if you remember your safety training then you should know any mechanical device can fail

Don't point the barrel at ANYTHING you don't want to shoot, even if the gun is NOT loaded. I'm sad for those killed and injured.

8:35 quick question, why were the people handling a loaded rifle in a house?

I like how at beginning while holding the gun his finger is on the trigger the entire time

I watched the entire thing, its scary if its true but I always doubt anything coming from the media nowadays. I remember when I was a kid (many many moons ago) my dad purchased me a single shot bolt action 22 (my first gun) and was teaching me gun safety and when he took the safety off it fired. First lesson he taught me was never trust a safety.

I had aRemington 700 for 25 years never once have any of them went off I love Remington guns always will

I have been a gun guy all my life, carry concealed daily, hunt, target shoot, reload etc. I am disgusted reading the in denial posts of some of you ignorants. This is a case where guns did kill and Remington knew it! Wise up jerks! A safety is not supposed to act as a trigger. It did on these guns.

I really wanted a 700 220 Swift when I was looking for a coyote rifle. They were a little more than I could afford so I got a M77 instead, thank God

Anyone else notice they put the hay ring upside down lol

Interesting article. I used to have a 700, like it very much but sold it when I gave up hunting. I did have an old 25-06 Charles Daily rifle that began firing when the bolt was closed. Had the rifle fixed then traded it off at a gunshow. loved that gun but when it became unsafe it was time to part with it. That said, the first thing dad ever told me before he handed me a rifle was "Never point a gun at anything you do not want to kill" "Always treat a firearm as if it were loaded" and "Never chamber a round until you are ready to fire." I always kept up with all those rules, except the chambered round, when I was on the PD I would have been a fool to carry a firearm without one in the tube.

This doesn't seem like anti gun it seems more like anti defective parts before you give this a dislike

No gun should go off like this, I understand comments about pointing a gun in a safe direction, but no one should accept such a blatant failure

Safety is a mechanical device and can fail! Always keep you gun pointed in a safe direction! However if i was to acquire or owned an older Remington with this trigger i would get a new trigger from an after market supplier.

This is WHY YOU ALWAYS point a gun at the ground in a safe direction amd treat any gun like it is loaded!!!

I cut my hand while chopping peppers yesterday.. It was a French Chef's knife. It ends here.

You guys going to believe a reporter who has his finger on the trigger the entire time?

Why its always important to practice proper muzzle discipline. That kid would still be alive if his mother wasn't so careless.

A barrel of a gun should never point toward anybody so it doesn’t matter

the best safe for any gun is between your ears

I owned Remington 700 model since 1994 and have fired thousand rounds ...never had problem....

I bought a Remington 700 in 2008/09 and within about a year there was a safety recall on the trigger. I took it in to a gun shop in 2011 and they fitted a new trigger. This is the first I have heard about this issue down here in Australia, I will have to test my rifle and see if I can replicate it or if the new trigger is ok

In 1971 my father gave me a Remington 700 BDL Custom Deluxe chambered for .270 Winchester cartridges. As the first centerfire rifle I had ever owned I fell in love with it and became very proficient with it. I owned the rifle for 34 years and remember six specific incidents where it misfired exactly as depicted in this video. I'm lucky to still have both my feet. I just now, due to watching this video, became aware this is an inherent defect in the rifle. The theory I developed while owning the rifle was that old lubricants became gummy over time during storage and caused the firing pin delivery mechanism to stick in a cocked position but not in the proper location that secured its retention. I never gave it more thought than that but I eventually lost my trust in my beloved rifle and when I was at a position where I desired a more powerful caliber I decided to sell it rather than hold on to it. I still own a Remington 870 Wingmaster in 12 gauge and a Remington 7400 in .30-06. The 870 is a great gun and I'm satisfied but not overly thrilled with the 7400.

This is why you buy surplus Mausers.

Why is the guys finger in the trigger garb at the beginning

I've owned several Rem 700's... from 22-250's to 223's and 204 etc I've never had a trigger issue. Although I always eventually put Jewel triggers in after a while - they're the best.

A MISFIRE is a FAILURE TO FIRE, not an accidental discharge.

What was the purpose of showing them buying a gun on some grainy undercover camera?

The only circumstance in which one can say that a gun killed someone.

I’ve owned a Remington for a while no misfires it’s an old model the thing is if you touch the bolt (while unlocking safety) it could fly forward and fire the gun so that’s why this happened.

winchester had problems with their 3.5 chambered 12gauge shotguns. it happens mainly due to cutting manufacturing costs!!!! enough said.

I love leaving my weapons loaded while pointing right at me!!!

This is all the more reason to be aware of the muzzle at all times. There can be no mistakes even with a firearm that should be rendered safe.

Demonized A/Rs now going after bolt action.

This is why in 20 years of hunting and shooting, i have never owned a single remington firearm. Even their ammo i have shot is known to be unreliable and even unsafe in certain platforms.

I'm truly sorry for that poor father. I can't imagine losing one of my sons. However, to continue to be a "rugged individualist" and fight a fight against a corporation, while defending that corporation against oversight by the Federal Government is just crazy.

5.5 cents per gun and this documentary would have never existed.

when you take your test- I would always say point the gun down! - but the test always says in a safe direction! wow, this video is really helpful thank you

I have a Remington 700 BDL that I bought new in 1981. These rifles had the Walker Safety and some there were reports of unintentional discharges when safety is flipped off. This pre-X mark safety ( Walker safety) required the safety to be flipped off before the cartridge could be extracted from chamber at end of hunting. I had heard about voluntary recall but never had a problem until 2013. While in Africa, my son was carrying this rifle and he flipped off safety so he could extract the round from chamber. Upon flipping safety off, the rifle discharged. His finger was not in the trigger guard. I had engraved gun safety into his soul as a child; he had rifle pointed upward and he had stepped away from the other hunters and guide. The round discharged into the air with no damage done. This was before Remington fully acknowledged the problem with Walker safeties. There was only a voluntary recall offered by Remington at the time. I advised Remington and they replaced Walker safety with new X mark Safety- no charge.... However, on the same hunting trip, I was carrying a newer Remington 700 LSS and learned that the original X Mark safety on my 5 year old rifle was being recalled. Remington paid for shipping both ways and replacement at no cost. Please have your Walker safeties or X Mark safeties checked out. Remington's web page will advises by serial number if your gun needs to be sent back. @t Good hunting to all and be sure to sign up any hunting buddies who are not members of NRA. The only rights we have are those we are willing to defend.

Now I have 2 things to buy : life insurance on my wife and Remington 700..

this is why you always have to point in a safe direction and always think what's beyond...

Brought to you by the people that rigged up a GM pickup truck to explode, then did a story on the "hazard."

I have also owned Model 600's and Model 721' and 722's with No discharges at any time !

all of these deaths and injuries could have been avoided if practicing proper gun safety.

I gave my Rem 700 to my youngest son and he reported its having gone off a few seconds after a trigger pull. I thought it was maybe old hardened oil in the trigger [??] This gives a whole new scenario open to review. So I have my son viewing this now. He is the one best to determine exactly what happened in light of that accidental firing. I shall see what he reports. I thank God it happened on the range and nowhere else! PS A 5.5 cent fix, the old gent who designed the trigger and the fix to be ignored is craziness, also it's ignorance.

i can testify this as my Rem 700 Police would fire just by taking it off safety. I wasn't expecting it and it recoiled right on my thumb as I was pushing the safety forward. Its been a habit for me not using the safety anymore since that happened. I just got the rifle literally and shot less than 100 rounds so it can't be a maintenance issue. I might have to dish our a couple hundred now to get an aftermarket trigger. I brought it brand new late 2014. Fixing the trigger problem would be a basic due dilligence and that fact that they are a firearms manufacturer puts them at a even higher safety standard for ensuring public safety of their own creation.

I have Remington 700 30.06 ADL Springfield. I have purchased this rifle 2 years ago and I am using for hunting. When I am at range and using for target practice I do not see any problem at all. With Remington 700 bolt action rifle.😃

And thats why you buy a model 70

I have a 700 ..270 no problems 10 + years....awesome rifle....

That was my first rifle and I never had any problems

Well I own 6 Remington's and have never had one go off without pulling the trigger, but people need to point their rifles in a SAFE direction!-Paul

I recently mailed my Remington 700 .308 for trigger replacement, the Saturday before the 60 Minutes story. I'm told that they are replacing the trigger with the same type trigger (the x mark pro). Gun dealers recommended that I buy a Timney drop-in replacement trigger when or if I get my gun back, because Remington may go bankrupt if they have to pay for all the defective triggers, who knows what happens in bankruptcy!

I packed the Remington away in 2015. It jammed. Only way forward, was to release the safety catch. The gun went off. Trigger was not touched.

I suppose that's why they say always treat a gun as if its loaded. When in fact it was in all of these cases. Its easier to blame others than to take responsibility for your own weapon and your own bullets. And that includes proper care and maintenance .

I love Remington but, I have noticed this big time. For me it is rare but, my Remington 700 has had problems with random discharge. After seeing this I will be buying that trigger. I almost shot my dog with this trigger. I got one of these when I was 14 and I wanted to buy one for my future children but, with this I think I'll go for something else unless a change is made.

Thankfully, the arms industry depends on public scrutiny, which is extremely tight. Last year sigsauer had a problem with the 220 pistol. Within a few weeks, the problem was on its way to being corrected.

31:15 I'm pretty sure it's time to cut back on smoking when your fingers have been permanently discolored

I own a Remington 700, I have NEVER had a problem

I've had this same exact thing happen, when I switched the safety off

There's an underlying psychological issue here that is about blame. Blame the gun, blame the company, blame God, but what is lacking is an individual taking responsibility for their careless firearms handling. The most unsafe and dangerous gun in the world can be rendered safe by proper firearms handling...don't put your faith in a machine working 100% perfect 100% of the time, that's just not how physics works.

Remington model 700 3006 is New in 1980 and I still got it and I love it 👍👍👍

they recalled all 700's last year so it must be true.

The Remington 700 will go off just closing the bolt and with your finger off the trigger. If it goes off before the bolt is completely closed and locked into place you will have a catastrophic failure that will be disasterous.

I guarantee 90% of the people who had problems never cleaned the trigger assembly and about 99.9% pulled the trigger unknowingly or are too afraid to admit it.

Always check to see if the gun is loaded by looking down the barrel and pulling the trigger

It would literally cost 5 cents to fix this problem per gun. Thousands of complaints and no change. Don't buy Remington guns.

Apparently, Remington has since fixed this problem. I bought a 700 BDL from a neighbor in the summer of 02 that does allow you to open the bolt with the safety on.

I've been shopping for a hunting rifle with extreme accuracy.... it's safe to say Remington is out of the pool now

My hart and prayers are out to all

4:48. What a stupid generalized comment.

I firmly believe in keep your weapon always in a safe direction. That being said, once Remington knew there was a verified problem with the 700 they had an obligation to take action to correct the problem no matter the cost….PERIOD! I also own a Remington 700.

safe direction unloaded till ready to shoot...…………...

I almost guarantee all of these rifles that fire accidentally have been adjusted to lighten trigger pull and have not been re locktited

Thank you cnbc for exposing Remington. Very dishonest, deceitful and dishonorable. I will NEVER buy anything from this company and will inform my friends and family to do th same.

But I still think Remington should have recalled all the 700 models just to be safe and I give my respect to the families who had this happen to them .

I will never buy anything they produce, a safety is a safety. It has one function only and is probably the most important part of any weapon. They got this wrong, and plainly just didn't care. I agree that you should always handle one properly, and maybe in some incidents it wasn't. But that's not the point. They're extremely sneaky and shady about this whole thing as well. They should be investigated and punished for this.

This does sound like a defective product, and should be corrected, but you still have to point the weapon in an unsafe direction. If you're pointing the rifle towards any part of yourself or anyone else, that's your biggest mistake.

25:25 "the safety didn't retract the firing pin" Yea, and neither does any other gun I can think of.

duuuuuu, never point a gun at yourself or anything you don't want killed

Why was jays dad facing the gun in an unsafe direction

What most people don't realize is that this isn't a design flaw with the rifle, it has a firing cycle that when the safety is pushed halfway forward, you can pull the trigger and nothing will happen, and you can put the safety back on.Then when you are ready to take the shot, you smoothly push the safety off and it will fire. This firing cycle results in a smoother and more accurate shot. People (who are hunting) are not typically paying attention to their rifle. Take it from me, I've been hunting for six years, and every time I lean my rifle against the corner of the ground blind so I am more aware of my surroundings. The trigger can be accidentally pulled, as most target or hunting triggers are 2-4 pounds, the trigger on my .243 Weatherby Vanguard is set at 1 pound, 10 ounces, which is lighter than most target rifles. This is so I can take accurate shots up and beyond 400 yards, within the size of a baseball. The trigger 'can' be pulled accidentally or purposely when the safety is on, which will result in the latter firing cycle. Ultimately if the rules of safety had never been broken, no one would have died or received serious injury. The way I have been taught is that when the rifle is handed to me I immediately point the muzzle to the ground, and open the bolt or action to see if its loaded, and throughout inspecting the rifle the action should be left open. And never point the rifle at anything you aren't willing to erase from earth.

The video is a tad grainy so its difficult to tell, but the first talker holding the rifle in the woods looks like he has his finger either in the trigger guard or on the trigger. If you are going to make a editorial about firearms can you please at least have someone who knows how to safely manipulate a firearm.

this is why i love my savage model 10

My friends, friend had a 300 win mag 700 that went off if you put it on safety and lifted the bold easily fixed with a timney trigger I've done the same with mine it's the trigger

A rifle should not go off without pulling the trigger, but just in case it's important to follow gun safety rule #1, keep pointed in a safe direction. Of course, if you live in a city, there is no safe direction. One of these goes off in an apartment complex, who knows what (or who) it will hit.

This is why I prefer Weatherby

That’s the reason you buy Winchester rifles, they have a middle position on the safety so the shell in the breach can be removed without any danger. I also have Remington rifles but, I am very careful when using them. I’m 76 years old and never had any problem with any weapon because I was taught correctly how to use them safely.