Renault Megane RS Trophy vs Honda Civic Type R - Best All Round Hot Hatch?

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This week Tiff Needell and Paul Woodman put the Renault Megane RS Trophy vs Honda Civic Type R FK8 to see which is the best all round Hot Hatch between the two.
They take the cars around the city of Bristol before shooting off to Castle Combe race track to see how they perform on track. Tiff faces disappointed when they get to the track when he realises, we had arranged for another racing driver by the name of Ollie Chadwick, brother of W Series winner Jamie Chadwick, to carry out the track driving.
Which of these hot hatch rivals will they choose to go home in, the Renault Megane Trophy or the Honda Civic Type R FK8. Watch to find out!
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@lovecarsTV 4 года назад

Which one for you?

@QuitMC 4 года назад

Type R

@Neklank 4 года назад

@@QuitMC 2nd that Type R all the way

@ALMX5DP 4 года назад

Yes

@AlexSennah 4 года назад

Test drove the Type R yesterday and its quite a bit of kit!

@prokopius1994 4 года назад

Megane... Type-R might be better, but its not that much better to ignore the look, I hate it

@FlyinGato 4 года назад

I may be a little biased, but the fact that car companies are still benchmarking the Type R three years later means something...

@psewgobind 4 года назад

It's crazy. In all that time, they haven't dethroned the Type-R. Even more crazy, the Type-R is based on global mass production chassis and kicking the butts of these purpose built sports car. Another advantage, because of global chassis/production, it'll be easier to find parts if you're going to keep it forever.

@99Lezard99 4 года назад

same story back when the r35 gtr came and conquered.

@nasirshal7633 4 года назад

Most certainly

@gaycha6589 4 года назад

Not on looks, they aren't. Still eeeeeewwww, 3 years on.

@shaunsimpson3499 4 года назад

So the best on the road and the best on track came second.

@tyebo51 4 года назад

Hey I'm 49 and it's the Type R for me! Remember age is nothing but a damn number! Oh by the way I own a 2017 Championship White...

@lovecarsTV 4 года назад

Good point!! And our main guy owns the identical car!

@SuperWolffie 4 года назад

Tye ....Perhaps the Golf is the better build car for the interior but the Renault looks stunning outside and makes you want one.....

@aB_S_NiNo 4 года назад

Tye Smith Dude you not that old...You are 49 not 69

@sugarrfree 4 года назад

Want to sell it? 😎

@JohanSalvattore 4 года назад

Exactly! I hate when people try and put age brackets to cars. Noooo! A car is a car and you pick whichever captivates you and suits your character. Period!

@kristisrb 4 года назад

You have the best driver on the show and still get someone else to do the fast laps? Come on... And I would have loved to see what Tiff thinks about i30n as well

@lovecarsTV 4 года назад

We like to mix things up every now and now 🙂 Thanks for watching!

@teovm 4 года назад

@@lovecarsTV You can mix them with a dogfight or just a comparison between drivers. Something to compete with. Mixing is good, but we want Tiff to do some laps and some Drifffffffts.

@robhackney9307 4 года назад

Kristis Balčiūnas couldn’t agree more! There’s no point having tiff on the show if you’re not gonna let him loose on the track. It’s like his natural habitat. It isn’t that there was anything wrong with Chadwick, but tiff has so much more charisma!

@Jo3yPropane 4 года назад

Type R is definitely the dream, but they are holding value very stubbornly, whereas the non-trophy RS (with or without Cup pack) can be had for 22-23k with less than 10k, which is a lot of car for the money... And the Renault is best looking hot hatch on sale today (and that's coming from someone who actually LIKES the look of the Civic!).

@skrypka 4 года назад

Good point Tiff! It is simply silly to compare lap times of cars on Nurburgring if they are not driven on the same day, same conditions, tires, driver and etc.

@ehudk215 4 года назад

I’m 45 and still will pick the Honda. Better drive, faster, better to sit in and will probably be more reliable

@lauremalleval5816 4 года назад

I said exactly the same thing! I'm 45 years old... sorry for my english... from France. 🤗

@emiliospowerballer1441 2 года назад

Reliability wise, there are lot more Golf GTIs with over 150k miles than Type Rs, which speaks for its self. I can also find more high mileage Megane RS than Type Rs. It doesn't exactly translate to better reliability, but which handles better is purely subjective, and the Honda isn't really faster, unless you consider a difference of 5 kph 'faster'.

@GeorgeSoroceanu 4 года назад

May I suggest a bit more soundtrack equalisation to future videos? In the current one, I think the volume level variation between dialogues, ambient/car noise and music seems a bit annoying and gives a less professional editing vibe... P.S.: Not judging the musical theme choice, which is totally subjective. ;)

@lovecarsTV 4 года назад

We certainly agree George, this one was not edited by our usual team. Thanks for watching and feeding back 🙂

@ryanjames702 4 года назад

Great content, really professional. Love TIFF’s feedback on all cars.

@superhulkful 4 года назад

I personally own a '19 Rallye Red Honda Civic Type R and I'm loving it as if I had bought it today. All I can say is that if you really want to get one you should do it now. The 2020 isn't much different it only has a few outside changes and safety features added. Other than that same performance and fun in what you would expect in a true hot hatch. I've driven the Ford Focus RS and yes it's a lot faster however the handling is a bit too stiff and it's not as smooth/versatile as the Type R. People need to understand something... The Type R is an extension of the formula 1 from Honda. Meaning it's meant for a track and not a drag race. It's an amazing machine with diligent engineering. But in the end the car you choose is up to you. I hope I helped out someone with this information and be safe on the road!

@jonovison8231 4 года назад

superhulkful actually from A roll, the type R gaps the focus

@Kendotheifzz 4 года назад

Well said!

@opadilla123 4 года назад

From a roll i kill focus rs , now after the custom tune i have this type r i s another beast im at 376 hp

@johnla5159 4 года назад

Totally agreed! Best car I have ever driven. 2018 brilliant sporty blue 🚙

@Maroco918 4 года назад

The 2020 has 2 piece rotors standard as well

@Tbiddz1 4 года назад

Fifth gears loss not having Tiff. Big gain for love cars. Love it keep up the good work .

@lovecarsTV 4 года назад

It’s great having him on the team 🙂

@Tbiddz1 4 года назад

@R8 OWNERS UK Dont watch it then . Simple!

@ufx808 4 года назад

Honda for me. Tiff, why weren't you doing the fast laps?

@lovecarsTV 4 года назад

We like to mix things up sometimes as well as give new talent opportunities 🙂

@irfaan7868 4 года назад

Dodgy knees

@vladimirmitrovic4151 4 года назад

Megane RS🏴‍☠️all day

@krekimuki 4 года назад

Test drove all the Hot Hatches (and some none hot hatches) and I went with the Mégane Trophy. All good and well the Civic being a few tenths quicker round a circuit, but how often do people drive flat out at a track? Mégane has a much classier interior.

@krekimuki 4 года назад

@@AlasTVRisHere The Civics is very tacky. Trying too hard to be young cool and hip, and the colours are way too bright and garish. Cheapens the quality of the interior. Speaking of quality, ask a Honda technician how many gearboxes they've had to replace under warranty for the Type Rs. The results will surprise you ;)

@krekimuki 4 года назад

Ahhh a typical Honda fan boy. Last Honda I had was the Accord Type R. As stated in my first comment, I did choose something else haha. Something the motoring world all agree is the better looking car. And taking that precious Nurburgring record off the Civic as well with less "aero" and power. Enjoy your rice box x

@krekimuki 4 года назад

Boomer haha. Nice one ;)

@Tefloncoated 4 года назад

I was behind a Renault the other day in my Golf R and I have to say my car looks very ordinary in comparison. That’s the feeling I was getting anyway.

@Miester7 4 года назад

I was behind a Gold R the other day in my Clio V6 and thought "a hatch back with 4 exhaust tips lol"!

@lucianocelestino8208 4 года назад

your clio v6 it's better than the golf r in every aspect

@KING0SISQO 4 года назад

What??? The golf r is less stylish than the gti. It’s a better car but it’s certainly not exciting.

@syther112 4 года назад

Because the Golf hasn't changed style in so long!

@Tefloncoated 4 года назад

Luciano Celestino in every aspect? 🤪

@GOBbluthagain 4 года назад

Just saw this on my recommended.....saw tiff and subscribed instantly !!!

@Alan-zi2rw 4 года назад

Nice car and video. Thanks for sharing. Watching from San Francisco. USA.

@g00dfeeling 4 года назад

Woooow, that CX at 3:37. Love it, one of the most beautiful cars ever!

@martinevans1256 4 года назад

Renault Megane rs for me

@YK-fj5bj 4 года назад

Nice little fun, not-so-serious video. Enjoyed that and been a fan of Tiffany Dell since forever. Good work 👍

@lovecarsTV 4 года назад

Thank you 😊

@felipequintero6766 4 года назад

You guys hould be the new Top Gear presenters, loved your video, now subscribed.

@twosheds1749 4 года назад

I have the Honda and it is a great car! I had hot Renaults before and though they were good they fell apart after a few years!

@idiotsandwich6727 4 года назад

That is bullshit mate, have a clio 197 for 13 years now. 280k kilometers still runs like its new. Also had a 5 turbo and a 182 trophy. None of them have had problems whatsoever

@paultaylor9652 4 года назад

Lovely Jubbly, yet another great video Chaps.

@petermcelvogue7521 4 года назад

I totally agree for looks the Renault but for the drive & the interior the Honda. Both great cars either way & I'm sure whatever you go for your gonna enjoy it. If I was going to go for a hot hatch I'd choose the Leon Cupra R I love the copper accents

@Gwril76 4 года назад

Gotta be a Honda any day.

@lovecarsTV 4 года назад

Cracking car 👌🏻

@grantadamson3478 4 года назад

So good to have Tiff back.

@oldfart8127 4 года назад

thumbs up for having Tiff Needell in the video

@DonFather 4 года назад

I'm only watching a hot hatch video coz you 2 are presenting. Guess I'm getting old too. LOL. Good job guys

@lovecarsTV 4 года назад

Haha thanks!

@lapamful 4 года назад

Great fun as always guys, and nice to see you getting comfortable in making these videos. But just a little comment, the volume is all over the place. But anyway, I'd say the Renault for looks, the Honda for driving and real-world reliability.

@lovecarsTV 4 года назад

Thank you for the feedback. Noted on the volume thank you

@king-manu2758 4 года назад

Tiff has got to be one of my fav car commentators of all time.

@robertl2856 4 года назад

Good work lads, Honda for me please

@lovecarsTV 4 года назад

Thank you for watching 🙂

@V5869 4 года назад

IF the Megane RS was offered in the U.S. I would love to have one!

@adamsuhail8861 4 года назад

hey, for the next video can you compare that two car with stinger.

@roadrunner8667 4 года назад

1440p for your videos ?

@vinnyvsx 4 года назад

Did you happen to bump into Dan Grazier whilst driving through Queen Square? I hear he loves cars.

@lovecarsTV 4 года назад

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

@tracktimevideos5164 4 года назад

The Megane looks so much better. FWD is no longer for me though.

@ManiaCop100 4 года назад

This is where Tiff has been hiding Glad I've found this channel :)

@lovecarsTV 4 года назад

Good to have you 🙂

@mawaboutcars671 4 года назад

As much as I absolutely adore you two as a duo, these reviews aren’t particularly thorough nor descriptive

@lovecarsTV 4 года назад

We try to concentrate more on the experience and just have a bit of fun. But feedback taken on board thank you 🙂

@Pistonjockey 4 года назад

Tiff!! My all time favourite Auto journalist ⭐

@saidur9 4 года назад

I would take the Mégane, let Tiff know they've updated the interior infotainment for 2020 facelift.

@lovecarsTV 4 года назад

We’ll be sure to check that out!

@souravmmishra 4 года назад

Watching Tiff with hot hatches reminds me of young myself watching Fifth Gear.

@Pionirish 4 года назад

Atrocious turning circle is all part of the traditional Type-R ownership experience!

@lovecarsTV 4 года назад

A small trade off for an otherwise excellent car 🙂

@99Lezard99 4 года назад

crappy turning circle usualy meant better/sharper steering ratio. not sure if thats still the case today with these modern racks but back when cars where analouge the steering ratios where fixed. so you would probably have nicer steering when the turning circle is bad.

@aimanroslan6082 4 года назад

Im experiment car guys.i gonna that honda.first is reliable.second easy tuning. Third space for long distance.

@MidnightDriveJon 4 года назад

Before my CTR i was a Subaru STi owner for the past 8 years. Switching back to Honda was the best decision made. I love my Championship White CTR

@stevenw11 4 года назад

Why didn’t you use the Trophy-R, which is the logical Megane for the comparison ?

@chrismunsey3185 4 года назад

I’m 43 but give me the CTR please!! Both badass machines tho.👌🏽

@adambeaver1749 4 года назад

Type R for me....I've not long bought one in Championship White! I love the looks, styling, the drive,engine....the complete package...its bang on for me....oh and I'm 48! All with added bonus of Japanese reliability!

@oarias5158 4 года назад

Great matchup.

@lovecarsTV 4 года назад

Glad you like it 👍🏻

@fantheman1126 4 года назад

I wasn't sure if I was watching a bristol tourism video for a bit then! Maybe spend the time looking at practical stuff like passenger space, boot size, running costs, spec etc I can report The FK8 is a great daily....and a great track car as we saw

@lovecarsTV 4 года назад

We do like to mix it up every now and then, but appreciate your feedback 🙂

@cosminmihu9963 4 года назад

i've looked at many hatches but the type r is definitely the best for me. Best gearbox, best precise handling, perfect low seating position (never sat so low in a hatch). Yes the engine note is disappointing but there's quite a lot of induction noise at high rpm. Everything is made for the driver and feels perfect. I used to own the previous Megane RS which was considered one of the best hatches at the time and the Type R beats it. Those adaptive dampers are amazing, goes from a soft lazy ride to a stiff racing monster. Only upgrade it needs is Cup 2 or some semi-slicks for it to use that chassis ability.

@geetee4037 4 года назад

Actually, I'd have that Citreon CX that made a cameo on the film!

@albertocarvalho8091 4 года назад

sinds i've got the fk8 i never regret it, and i pretty much test drive all the hothatchs except peugeot before going for the honda

@lovecarsTV 4 года назад

Amazing cars 👍🏻

@Vano233 4 года назад

Great vid. As much as I like Renault, but must admit that Civic is way superior in power and steering departments. That styling tho...

@DAF.truck. 4 года назад

Why didn't TIFF do the lap times?

@sparkford04 4 года назад

I 'm 68 and a retired automotive & aerospace engineer by background for me the quality of engineering employed by the Honda engineers stand out in this Type R. Having driven both of these cars it reinforces my view . Honda all day long. Great shame that Honda design & manufacturing is leaving the UK. Iwould still have my Golf R as my daily in the UK.

@obmf9050 4 года назад

I like the Renault more then the civic. Only type r civic I would get is the ek9

@damienhowell3727 4 года назад

Type r all day just wait till the catalogue of upgrades arrives to compliment the car smh epic

@spinkick9270 4 года назад

Great video should have been a bit longer maybe 10 to 15 minutes longer. I'd choose the Renault it looks very very classy. The tail lights are extremely elegant.

@nastystew6942 4 года назад

Awesome

@pollumG 4 года назад

❤ Lovecars

@markrhoden68 4 года назад

For me it would have be the Renault.....simply can't get on with the Halfords extras that seem to cover the Honda. To be honest I'd not buy either but I guess that's down to my age now (50).......I much prefer comfort and performance over track day ride, bright colours and big spoilers nowadays

@nicolafertin3154 4 года назад

Better to drive in town, better on a track.. and we choose the other car.. it's based on looks?

@nevillebowman8419 4 года назад

What is the build quality of the Renault like though? For French cars, reliability and quality have always been interesting concepts for future reference. You know the Honda will be tight and fast 10-15 years from now. Anyone kept a Renault for any length of time?

@AbandonEarth911 Год назад

They are both very nice hot hatches, it boils down to personal choice.

@supernova1976 4 года назад

Had the EP3 2003 Type R and drove it like i stole it every single day and never stopped was the most fun I had , you can throw it in any corner and play with over and under steering using the throttle , made me feel I was a good driver lol . Then I bought a Leon Cupra and found out I wasn't a good driver 🤣

@MrWachira98 4 года назад

Tiff needel + hot hatches Best combination

@sujeethnadella6856 4 года назад

I may be inexperienced in driving hot hatches but the precision of the type r and the day to day usability of it make it better than the Renault for me

@davidknell9676 4 года назад

I would of taken the type R regardless of what hatch you put up against it. Used to have an vti import back in the day and have love fast civics ever since

@mattw1406 4 года назад

No country road test? Most people want their hot hatch to shine on a country road, so why focus on the town driving (which you didn’t really review other than turning circle) and track driving?

@goranEE9 4 года назад

Come on, is Opel (Vauxhall) Astra your next rival for the mighty Civic Type R? Ollies driving is the only serious part of this shootout, so congrats to you Mr. Chadwick!

@nix294 4 года назад

I would rather go for overaggressive styling than less aggressive styling anyday . So , Type R it is ! Also , I've seen too many cars with similar body style as the Megane and it's so boring . Type R ended the boredom with it's bold designs , gives me some fresh air to breath .

@10Tenths 4 года назад

Two of the most track focused hot hatches on the market today! I think I'd go for the Renault!

@lovecarsTV 4 года назад

Both amazing cars!

@joro353 4 года назад

Type R is the poor man's Lamborghini. I'm 47 and would pick the Type R any day of the week. I love the Megan but it's so ordinary.

@KING0SISQO 4 года назад

Without watching. The RS. IF it was £7k cheaper, I’d of bought one instead of my gti

@milo6507 4 года назад

You guys know what's good! Renault off course

@93remix 4 года назад

I woulda like 2 have seen these line up and go head 2 head. Not everyone is gonna be able 2 get 2 a track

@sasicuomo9217 4 года назад

Renault 💜👍

@jesterarts8082 4 года назад

Head: Honda Type-R. Heart: Renault RS. Accountant: VW UP!

@supernova1976 4 года назад

Would have loved to see Tiff doing a dog fight with the younger race driver like the good old days. i am sure there was a reason we dont know about.

@stephenlee62 4 года назад

Not even slightly interested in hot hatches - just watching for you two guys. Great rapport and excellent presenters. But please, let Tiff drive the hot laps. He is able to drive and talk at the same time. The young bloke sounded like he still had his training wheels on. Keep up the good work tho and good luck with it all.

@lovecarsTV 4 года назад

As mentioned in a previous comment, we like to mix things up sometimes and give new talent opportunities. Tiff will be our ‘driver’ always, but it’s also nice to try new faces 🙂

@NaeemKhan-rg6de 4 года назад

Why do I feel like I’ve seen that number plate on so many vids “G8 HUK”

@lovecarsTV 4 года назад

It is a Honda press car 👍🏻

@NaeemKhan-rg6de 4 года назад

Ahh so that’s what it is, thanks that clear my suspicions

@jeryjohn 4 года назад

So the honder is faster and more comfy and roomier but they choose the renault?🤔

@lovecarsTV 4 года назад

I’d be happy with either 🙂

@stephenagnew670 2 года назад

Buy the renault I did in black an love it to bits

@bossviola8306 4 года назад

Renault the best 💓💓

@mosca3289 4 года назад

I was gonna say, cool. But I guess I should say, hot!

@leroy7647 4 года назад

If only they hadn't overdesigned the Civic's rear into oblivion, it would actually be a car I'd be willing to pay the extra money for compared to much of the competition. But instead I went for an i30 N. I think it's the best compromise of this generation of hot hatch. Probably on par with the new Focus ST.

@kindra11111 4 года назад

Renault. .. sell in canada yet???

@gweflj 4 года назад

A used, perfect, R.26R please.

@corone2018 4 года назад

TypeR all day I felt a bit squashed in the trophy not practical enough and not fast enough.

@oneeleven9832 4 года назад

Megane for me...can’t get over the Max Power looks of the Civic..thats probably my age though

@lovecarsTV 4 года назад

Very subjective when it comes to looks with any car, we think they both look great 🙂

@InfinityR319 4 года назад

Type R is the obvious answer since Renaults has no prescence in America, which is a pity.

@viperggg 4 года назад

Megane #1

@ukturk7510 4 года назад

Reading through the comments the TR is the clear winner and gets my vote to 🏁🏁

@BobK5 4 года назад

Honda, it’s a legend

@bimbeano 4 года назад

The 1.8 is only half a second slower than the Honda 😂

@petar_crni872 4 года назад

RS!

@johnchong8559 4 года назад

Megane for me!

@jklmnoable 4 года назад

RS for this one. In person the MRS has presence, on the other hand the CTR back is fugly and the front is ok.

@clocktower7 4 года назад

I am a Honda enthusiast for over 20 years. I am sad to say that i feel Honda have lost their way with how a true Civic Type R should look and feel. A Civic Type R should look lean, nimble and aggressive. A Civic Type R should feel Raw and Stripped back. Of course times change and Motor engineering must move on but since Honda have installed a Turbo on their new Civic Type R's, the sheer experience and excitement of driving a new Civic Type R has been dulled down and lost.

@Sajuuk9 4 года назад

The Spanish where the first to "discover" North America around 1526.. Not the Brits.. and the Vikings where prob there a few hundred years earlier, but that was not documented.

@lovecarsTV 4 года назад

The Matthew is a replica of a caravel sailed by John Cabot in 1497 from Bristol to North America, presumably Newfoundland. After a voyage which had got no further than Iceland, Cabot left again with only one vessel, the Matthew, a small ship, but fast and able. The crew consisted of only 18 men.