RENTING SECTION 8 | Before & After 

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Absolutely repulsive. I grew up poor- and my momma always told me, “ just because we’re poor DOESN’T mean we live like TRASH. We were poor, but left it all better than we found it. NO EXCUSE other than pure laziness

If the tenant trashes their place of residence, then they should not be given Section 8 housing again.

This is what happens when there is no repercussions for your actions. This video should be shown to all potential Section 8 tenants. If they leave a unit in this condition, they become ineligible for future Section 8 vouchers, or any other free stuff.

I know he’s on camera but this man’s patience is pretty astounding. I’d be cursing with every new discovery.

I feel bad for the children that lived here and the trauma that they’ll have to survive in life from growing up that way. 🙏🏾❤️

I don't care if you're rich or poor, there is absolutely no sense in living in such filth. Cleaning up after yourself is not expensive. There is no way in heck I could be a landlord and put in the time and effort to have people come in and tear the heck out of my investment.

One unruly Section 8 holder makes it bad for other respectable holders . SMH

I truly sympathize with you I rented to section 8 A mother and grown son When I was finally able to evict them for nonpayment The house was so trashed that I sold my property Being a widow I just didn’t have the strength to do all the repairs !!

They should have been prosecuted. This is an absolute crime.

On behalf of ALL THE CLEAN RESPECTFUL SECTION 8 TENANTS. I HAVE TO SAY, SORRY YOU HAD TO GO THROUGH THAT. I told my children, the reason why we can't get another place is because of that. DISGUSTING. Our apartment is in GREAT CONDITION NOT NASTY LIKE THAT. We have to move because we currently live in a duplex apartment. I have ms and it's hard to go up and down the stairs.

Some section 8 states will not let you get another voucher until they do an inspection on the last place you live. This is just terrible and that person needs to be reported.

My dad was a landlord and I promised myself that I would NEVER be one. Hard to believe that people can live like that.

I'm single and retired on Section 8 in a one bedroom apartment in Oregon, and I take much better care of my place. How awful those tenants left your property in such a mess. Mike

It’s honestly heartbreaking to know children were living in these conditions 💔

My son was on section 8 and he had the landlords and the section 8 people coming in every 3 months inspecting the property I just don't see how that could have gone that far without being inspected

Been there, done that! And yes, tenants do leave apts in this condition. I had one tenant that had animals and let them "go" anywhere in the house. The cat urine went into the floors and ruined them. I had to hire a company come in and remove everything. Then I had to have someone rip up all the carpet. Next I hired a company come in and clean everything. The smell didn't go away. I hired a painter and had him use Kiltz on everything. finally I got rid of the smell. The painter painted the whole apt. It was very expensive. It is all kinds of tenants, not just section 8.

OMG! How can people have such little respect for others and live in such horrendous squalor? The fact they have kids makes me sick. CPS should be involved in this situation. So sorry you had to clean up this disgusting mess! You did an excellent job with the turnaround. Excellent!!!

I hope that somehow you are able to report them so that they can never rent through section 8 again. This is deplorable. I know people on sec 8 that take care of the property like it's their own. I don't even understand how people were living in there like this.

My grandmother rented properties when I was little. She told my aunt when she started renting out her house, pay attention to how they dress and how clean their children are. If they can't take the time to present themselves as if they are going on a job interview, don't rent to them. If their children are filthy, and unkept, that's how they will treat your house. My aunt didn't listen and had a lot of bad experiences. Section 8 is important to a lot of families. I had to use it a few years ago and was very thankful I found a nice property that was willing to convert to section 8. Not everyone on section 8 are pigs. Good luck and God bless.

I worked for my mother’s real estate company when I on summer and winter breaks. These houses are nothing compared to the apartments I cleaned out and rebuilt. She built her retirement on buying rundown buildings and houses fixing them up so lower income people could have a nice place to live. I remember seeing my father pay for multiple funerals of the older people who lived in these apartments because their families didn’t have the money to pay for a funeral. He was a small town lawyer in Iowa.

They need to keep a record of this happening and not give them another house ever!

I know several families on Section 8 that take pristine care of their rentals. They've waited on lists, some for years, and are grateful to have a place to call home.

That’s why a lot of landlords don’t rent section 8😢

My neighbor rented his place to a Section 8 family… in the few years they were there, it was trashed. Never saw the inside of it, but he had an industrial sized dumpster parked on the driveway to get rid of all the trash. It was near overflowing in less than a week. Their power was cut off, so they were basically living in a place with no water or electricity. Said there were grocery bags of water. It was disgusting. Felt bad for him as they dumped a lot of money into the place before deciding to rent it out. That’s beyond disgusting.

I'm not the cleanest ever but I take care of my place and my stuff. I do clean and try to make things look as best as I can. I really don't understand how anyone ever can live like this! You did a wonderful job fixing it up!

I’m so sorry they did that to your property. Just terrible.

As a former police officer, I was surprised how many people's houses are like this. Not even hoarders. I had to get an emergency order one time because an elderly man with emphysema was staying in a house with is wife who had over 100 cats. The smell hit me like tear gas from my military days when she opened the door. Don't get me started on the hoarders with grocery snacks of poop and 2 liters of pee hoarded.

As a landlord myself, I am so impressed at the end result. I give you so much credit for dealing with all that. Then turning around and making it into something that looks really nice. Good for you buddy. Best of luck. You deserve it.

I always told my kids that we may be poor but we don't have to look like we are. We had a clean house and yard all the time.

I’ve got to say, I rent through Section 8 and I’m so sorry that this happened to you! There’s no excuse for renters of any kind to leave a house/apt in this shape. I’m 100% fully disabled and became so at 19 and was blessed to get a Section 8 house at 29. I’m so sorry this happened to you!

He did a damn good job fixing this house back up

That is disgusting and it ruins it for those who are respectful and have class but find themselves in need financially.

Years ago my boss owned rental units and some became Section 8 at the request of the tenants. We went through tons of paperwork and made improvements to comply with the program. In spite of a few bad apples, most of the S8 tenants were clean and respectful of the property and their neighbors. When we had problems, we notified their caseworker who inspected the units and threatened to stop the supplemental rent until the tenant complied. We actually got some money back for damaged walls, windows and carpeting in one really bad unit.

When I left my last apartment, I got every single thing out and VACUUMED the carpet. Cleaned the counters, etc. It's just embarrassing for someone to clean up after me, let alone to come and see this mess. I got a farewell card with a check for my full deposit in the mail at my new place (I know awesome landlords like I had are hard to find too). You have to take pride in where you live, and treat people's property with care.

I rent through the voucher program and I find this horrifying. I could never live like this or leave a mess like this. There is no excuse for this.

I'm a section 8 Tennant and I would never ruin my home like that. I prefer to keep things sanitary and also keep it maintained myself if possible, given my technical expertise.

This level of damage needs to become a felony. Landlords need to push laws to put these people in jail. Their is no defense for damages like this.

I can't believe how people live and how they utterly destroy something they didn't pay for! Nice work!

My cousin had sveral rentals. I was appalled when we had to go into one where he had to evict the people. Everytime it was the same story, they arent getting hours at work, they were layed off, blah blah blah. He would talk to their boss, theyd inform him they were not coming in, or had quit the job. Hed ask around to people that knew the tenant, everytime they would be on drugs and drinking, or just drinking. Its real simple, if its a roof over your head, vs drugs or booze, the dugs and booze have to go. He had this girl renting from him, she had two kids. She was always singing the blues how her boyfreind just up and left her,and she was trying but had two kids with no help. She was about a month and a half behind on rent, the kids were eating junk food and Mc Donalds, yet she had this slightly used lexus, had a gucci bag, expesive clothes and when she come to the door with about a $500.00 tatoo, it ran across her back and down her arm, like a plant. He told her to either have her debt caught up by Friday or pack her bags. He hired me to do all the dirty work. I had to wear oil skins, rubber boots and gloves a facemask and a face sheild. These people wouldnt pay their rent for usually three months, and get mad because they were evicted. They would rub human fecies all over the walls, urinate all over the house, usually the electric was not paid and cut off so the fridge was nothing but a fermintation bin, the oven was usually full of dirty pots with rotting meat, stuff like clothes and books and paper or most anything all over the place, windows may be broke so rain would damage things, holes all in the walls even grafitti with spray paint, I seen some sights. He would take them to court and he told me, Ill end up with nothing from them, because they are worthless, but its the principle of it. He ended up selling them all, in our state they made a law that a landlord has to give tenants 90 days after serving them eviction papers. If kids are involved, it can take longer. He had a lease, but it was simply by the month at a set price, and if it was not paid at the end of each month they had breeched it. He usually got a security deposit, but in many cases he judged the rent and the deposit based on the persons job. For instance, he had felt sorry for the tatoo girl, and kept the rent mild and she never did give a deposit. But a guy that had rented it while he was working here for 8 months as an engineer, gladly paid it all, because even at full the rent was very reasonable. I have come to belive my cousin when he said that America is broke. If a person works hard and does what it takes to make a good life for themself, they are almost fined with taxes and giveaways for people that do everything wrong. Its nauseating to think about it.....

I used to be a landlord. After a couple of these similar situations, I sold both rentals I had. Got sick and tired of babysitting grown adults who dont know how to take care of other peoples stuff.

I was a landlord and rented a house for 9 years -every renter “I had” was disgusting and for some reason they lie lie and lie. and at the end of their lease, they all want their security deposit back for some reason??? And YES I even had a Bullet hole at one point. You can’t make this stuff up. I feel for this guy!

I knew a couple living off Section 8 and their place was like this. When I ask how they could live like that they said "What? We don't have to pay for any damages it causes". They were kicked out of Section 8 after the owner complained of the filth and damages. Turned out it wasn't the first place they destroyed while on Section 8.

Those tenants were pigs! How the hell could they live in that filthy place

Wow this is one of the worst places I've seen. You did a great job on the renovation. Nice decor choices too. And that's a nice piece of property. I really hope, from here on in, that you only have tenants that appreciate this great place they have as a home.

My friend was a landlord and he did the repairs himself. The thing is, he didn’t tell the tenants that he was the owner when he showed up to fix things. He had a property management that found and interacted tenants but the company was told to explicitly to use a number to call for handyman service (his other number). Even the property management company didn’t know it was actually the owner. This worked great because he could see how the tenants cared for the rental and see what actual repairs were needed. Also he didn’t have to interact much with them.

What a damn shame for anyone to destroy what they didn’t have to work to have… ungratefulness would be an understatement 🙄

Years ago my mother and I worked together at a part time job doing make readies for an owner of multiple rental properties. The state that most of these were left in from previous tenants was so disgusting. We had to use oven cleaner and scrub brooms to cut through greasy grime in bathtubs and showers. The kitchens were just as disgusting. We had to wear masks, goggles, gloves and and full skin covers to protect ourselves from getting sick from all the unknown bacteria that was harboring in the filth. To this day, I can't understand how anyone can live in such filth.

I was a landlord of a single family home and baby it was all bad. They look good in the beginning with the single mother stories and the work ethic ethos. Then comes the pit bull, the bum boyfriend and children. The break-ins, broken windows, doors, carpet, ruined hardwood floors, walls painted that you didn’t approve ,bullets, blood, smoke and late rent. The worst time is after Christmas. You won’t see rent until almost the end of February. When they finally leave you’re left with a disaster and thousands in expenses to just get back up to par. Suing is pointless and all the while you clean up just to go through it again. You do think about the kids that live through all of this chaos and wonder how they even have a chance to compete with children from a stable home.

I also think as a section 8 landlord you should be checking constantly on your tenants to hopefully avoid this destruction in the future

I waited NINETEEN YEARS on the wait list for Sec8... my daughter never had a chance to see what our lives could have been like. She was 1 when I applied... and had JUST moved out at 20 when I got the letter of acceptance. I dunno which was harder, 7 years and 2 college degrees, or or the neverending wait for help with rent. I grew up with family who made a point of accepting ONLY Sec8 tenants, and the renters were always respectful and appreciative. I've always seen it as a hand UP (instead of a hand OUT), and (esp now that I have it), it's a privilege that is SACRED. I can't even FATHOM the amount of disrespect to that "home" and it breaks my heart to see people treat rental places like a Chuck E. Cheese ball pit.... though in this case it looks like the outside was treated just as badly! To think there were likely CHILDREN living in that house (solely based off the sheer number of toys inside and out), with mice and broken debris.... those poor kids! People don't realize kids don't have a CHOICE in life with regards to their surroundings, and this type of environment becomes generational. Oi. (Edit: for spelling)

Those individuals were the bottom of the barrel. AS soon as you said section 8 and bullet holes, I knew exactly what KIND of individuals they were. Imagine children growing up like that? This is why the cycle continues with them. That clean up was a lot of work-good job. You have more patience than I would have.

I'm so thoroughly disgusted and saddened at that repulsive sight! I'm on section 8, been on it for at least 15 years and always keep my place clean and I'm 72 years old with disabilities. I am truly sorry for your unfortunate run in with trashy tenants!

Bruh. I feel our pain. I inherited 3 properties in Philadelphia when I turned 18. I had an uncle who was a lawyer, so he set me up with a management company, but I was very hands on. When the leases came up for renewal, I would personally do a walk through and take LOTS OF PICTURES. If the tenants trashed the place, I would not renew and once they were gone, did as you did and clean and paint and fix and replace. It got expensive, but they were solid older row houses and I tried to preserve as much of the old woodwork etc and since the kitchens and baths were always old and basically needed to be torn out and replaced anyway, so I bought decent stuff (not expensive, not super cheap) and painted and had the old hardwood floors stripped and resealed. Kitchens and baths got new floors if needed and ceramic tile. Then when it was done, the management company would screen very carefully future residents. Once they got moved in, all they had to do was call the management company with any issues and it would get repaired promptly. I had it stipulated in the lease that I took pictures of the entire property top to bottom and inside and out. And the management company would perform inspections every 6 months and take pictures so the renters knew that I wasn't playing around and expected them to maintain the house and keep it as it was when the moved in. So, one at a time I would renovate and make everything safe and comfortable. My bank was hesitant about lending me "fix up money" especially since they were in Philadelphia and I lived 40 miles away. But in time I got all three looking good and had great renters. I bought 3 more mostly abandoned properties and started fixing them up. It started to get bad and as soon as I had materials delivered, thieves broke in and stole everything, so I learned to put super heavy doors at all exterior access points and bricked up the first floor windows. That helped some, but it was still a challenge. I was always in hot water because I was very particular about who rented, how many evictions they had, how many properties they wrecked and walked away from ran credit reports and background checks. You didn't qualify, you didn't move in. I would rather a place sit unrented for a month or two rather than let trash and scum move in. So after I got all the properties up and running and had good renters, I thought about purchasing a few more, but the city was in a major downward spiral and the neighborhoods went to the dogs and crime was increasing and my renters were vandalized and broken into. Their friends and family were jealous that they had a nice house and they lived in a shit hole. I finally got tired of dealing with the whole landlord scene and dumped everything 8 years later. I put a lot of sweat equity into trying to make the hood a little nicer and all I got was shit. I used to go around and check on the properties and was so sickened by how they got trashed after I sold them. So, I decided never again would I be a slum lord. It's not worth the hassle. I did make the move into commercial properties (smaller and NOT in Philadelphia) and while not hassle free, they are a LOT better than residential units

I’m a landlord and have only had a couple of bad tenants but nowhere near the extent of what you just showed us. I would be in tears.

I had a neighbor leave a unite like this. She had four count em four kids (and later a baby daddy living with her) in a tiny two bedroom apartment (the previous tenants had been a young married couple that moved out shortly after they had their baby because it was very small). My heart ached for the kids who were stuck living in conditions similar to this. I am not exactly a neat freak but its appalling how people can live like this!

I've been in real estate for 30+ years and can say I see this to be true all the time.

I have seen people whose places look like this or worse and they didn't have any programs helping them. I don't think it's the section 8 that's the problem, it's the individual. Some people also have mental health issues as well.

I've rented, all four of my family members (my mother, 2 sisters and I). We cleaned the place better than we got it after leaving both times. We struggled with rent but NEVER left it a mess. I even vacuumed the small cracks in between the floor boards that the homeowners left. I cannot and will not understand why people are so horrible to do this to someone else.

I just became a person as a section 8 renter. I would NEVER IN MY LIFE LIVE LIKE THAT! I'm on SSI which isn't a lot but I can survive on it! What I don't understand him being a landlord why didn't he check up on them??? There is no way I'd ever let anyone continue living there!!

I’m so sorry your renters did this! Not everyone on Section 8 is like this! You did an incredible job repairing everything, and should be very proud. I also think you have a lot going for you at your age. You’re a good looking young man, that seem to be very responsible, and a hell of a worker! I’m amazed how well you fixed this awful mess!

As someone who used to work for low income housing units. This is very common. They pay little to no rent and when asked to leave they do this.

I feel for you. Our company carries out exit/bond cleans for real estate agents and we’ve had quite a few like this doozy! It really upsets me to know that there are usually children living in these squalid conditions. I often ask myself, How the hell do people live like this? Nice over-hall by the way, looks like it would have taken a while which unfortunately means it’s also costing you revenue.

You did a wonderful remodel. It breaks my heart to see how they treated your property 💔

I think you cleaned it up real nice and proper. Now its ready to get demolished again. I put floors in dumps like this all the time, and I will never understand why people just choose to literally live like an animal. Ther should be a law where there are mandatory checks of the property once a month or something.

It's really hard to screen tenants, program or not. Everyone is "perfect" when you meet them. It's the same with job interviews.

I’m a section 8 holder it hurts my heart to see how nasty people can live and be to a place u sleep in that’s y many landlords don’t want us as tenants I have a serious case of ocd everything has to be very clean and organized but cuz I hold a section voucher they think bad smh people get it together respect a home that’s being rented to u it’s not yours

No more section 8. The federal Democrat government backs this free ride shit. Time to end the free rides.

I've built section 8 apartments. They were destroyed after a week. You can't help these ppl

The tenants were animals! We have another home and our my adult child and their spouse live in it. I hope they never leave. The thought of ever renting it out now petrifies me.

My last tenant was a section 8. She destroyed the apartment. Three walls a Had holes I them. One was over 3 feet wide. There were footprints on the ceiling. The floors were black from dirt and grease. They just don’t care.

As a landlord I've had section 8 . Section 8 promises 8 to help repair you for damages beyond normal wear and tear but, my experience is their help is absolutely non existent

NEVER RENT TO SECTION8 NYCHA 98% DAMAGE THE PROPERTY AND DON'T PAY THE RENTS. AMEN!!

It took me 6 months to get rid of a tenant and the rat feces all over the place was sickening. Sect 8 doesn't t care about what the tenant does but you have to clean up their messes to get your rent. Ps..I grew up in sec 8 housing and you could eat off the floors. Mom said it was like we were borrowing something and had to return it the way we got it. Sold the property this year at a severe loss due to all the damage that was done. Sect 8 needs to be rehauled in this regard

Wow. You have more patience than I do. The before and after is unbelievably horrific.

I’m 24, no kids yet, and educated (aiming for my Masters one day 🙏🏽), and I make an ok living. But what scares me is that I know life can happen sometimes and that if I ever get into a situation and I need Section 8 (I’ve never applied for it before) that nice places to live and rent won’t be available to me. I would never EVER leave a house like this. So disgusted with how they left it. So sad.

My parents and aunt and uncle built the first two homes in an area north of Miami, Florida in 1954. By the early 1970s the government paid for people to move into this neighborhood, people who could not afford it otherwise. The neighborhood turned into a drug infested hell hole in just a few years. Anyone who had enough money were forced move away for their own safety. From new to crap in 20 years, unheard of. It normally takes 60 or so years for a neighborhood to turn bad.

The Section 8 program has all kinds of people who need a home. I am 66 and live in a Sec 8. The place was filthy when I moved in and I make sure to take care of the home as I was brought up. Changing a/c furnace monthly etc. The reaction to the trashing of the home is unsurprising but stop lumping everyone in a box. Also, you should let Sec 8 know what they left you. I assume you kept the deposit.

You fix it up they tear it up it's a regular thing around here , and now ALL rental property owners must take section 8 no refusing anymore , I feel for the owners that work so very hard and spend so much money rehabbing houses only to be told to rent to anyone no matter what or they shut them down , no way I would spend my hard earned money rehabbing only to have it trashed over and over again !!

People should be grateful they get subsidized and have most of their rent paid, instead they trash subsided housing and don't even clean up after thier pets. I say more rules and you loose your right to get help if you do this!

That's a beautiful home. People are crazy to not appreciate their home and take care of it. I always wanted to be on Section 8 because I was a single mother raising my children but I never raised them in filth. They didn't tear up our homes that we live in. That is a disgrace.

Really a cute house too. They certainly did not appreciate what they had!

I surprised they don't get checked out at least once every 2-3 months or so.

Oh man, it's horrible tenants like that who make it difficult for good tenants to land a decent home to rent. Nicely restored.

If that’s how you keep your precious items…. No wonder they’re totally dependent upon the government.

As a landlord - rented to Section 8 in the past - this is not uncommon. Never again.

Great job with the After results 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼

It's a sad fact of human nature that most people don't take care of what is not theirs. They didn't work for it and probably resent the fact that he owns it so they will show him. I have been a renter and always took care of where I lived. It looked better when I left than when I moved in. I have also been a landlord and have been faced with much the same thing as this.

This is such a charming and spacious home. I can't even begin to fathom how someone living in it on the government's dime can allow it to fall into such a level of squalor. I've never owned a home in my life - have rented and shared homes with friends and always taken *exquisite* care of them, as if they were my own. Even upgrading some things and leaving them when I left. Seeing this is just heartbreaking. At least you were able to rehab it back to its original tidyness.

I’m a disabled veteran and we would never do this. We have to use HUD VASH because of my husbands stroke on this ago from military service. This is so true and it ruins it for people like us who truly want a nice home to live in and want go things especially after military service. Many places turned us away just for the simple fact that we are section 8… and it broke my heart. I was homeless for 6 months after my military service…

😏Oh, PLEASE! I don't believe for a minute that the occupant(s) of this unit solely created this disaster. It's so obvious that this dwelling was left abandoned for a significant length of time and was then occupied by SQUATTERS.💯

The house next to mine was a section 8 rental. Every time a tenant moved out, it was like doing an overhaul. I’ve seen rugs get pulled out, appliances being dragged out to be power washed. I’d never rent my property out that way.

Damn those tenants were just NASTY 🤢🤮 , why would anyone want to live like that...

I used to be on Section 8 and now I see why my landlords loved me. There’s no way I’d live like that or leave a place like that. When I left my apartments, I cleaned EVERYTHING! My landlords used to want me to recommend tenants 😂 Sorry but I’m one of the most responsible people I know. That’s why I wasn’t on Section 8 long. School led to a good job and a better life.

My landlord moved in a section 8 chick. She was a nightmare and brought down the building. He finally evicted her and the building went back to normal overnight

That’s crazy! Don’t they lose their section 8 after that. I’ve had section 8 and I would never! That’s insane.

How can anyone live that way 😭

This is more representative of a Section 8 SINGLE MOTHER with more illegitimate kids than common sense. Too busy at "the club" to raise her kids or clean her house. I know a single woman (no children) on Section 8 and disability. Her house is cleaner than mine (she has lots of time to clean).

How does this even happen?????

I can't believe they did this😳..This is not fair and is a damn shame!