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Responding to the Allegations Against Mike Bickle
Dr. Brown addresses this heartbreaking situation.
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@wessnyder4857 9 месяцев назад

I remember as a new believer a pastor who I highly regarded had a moral failure. As a new Christian, I was devastated. I remember telling God “ If he being a strong Christian fell into immorality, how will I a baby Christian ever make it? Then God spoke to my heart in a way I’ve never forgotten. He said “ son, people are flesh and they may fail you.” “Keep your focus on me and you will be upheld.”Looking unto Jesus, the Author and finisher of our faith Hebrews 12:2.

@FLIPPER1439 9 месяцев назад

Yes, 🙌🏼 Praise the Lord

@laurapicht 9 месяцев назад

well said ❣️

@discobootsy 9 месяцев назад

Awwwww

@spoolsandbobbins 9 месяцев назад

Best word I’ve heard on any of these videos. Thank you Jesus.

@user-jf5mu7bj9u 9 месяцев назад

We should not put leaders on pedestals. No one deserves Glory except God. We honour our leaders but we do not praise them, no one except Jesus is our saviour, and deserves our praise. In terms of why didn’t the prophetic people see it, l believe like the disciples God did not allow them to see what Judas was doing. If the allegations are true, the Holy Spirit would have spoken to him about the sin in his life and given him time to repent, but when we don’t repent the consequences are enormous . What is done in the darkness will be made known in the broad daylight. Now more than ever God is going to expose everything that is not from him. It is a very sad situation and we need to be mindful that we can not stand in judgement because we can easily fall into temptation ourselves. We need to pray for the leaders and congregation who are feeling hurt and confused and especially for the victims as well as for Mike and his family. It’s not up to us to be judge and jury, but we are called to pray and weep in this situation

@LFTV 9 месяцев назад

Friends, in the same open and honest spirit of today's broadcast, your constructive comments and questions are welcomed here. But as with all our comment threads, we do not allow false accusations or personal attacks to be posted. I also recommend that you watch the entire broadcast before making comments on the broadcast. I also made clear that all involved are entitled to due process, but for the purpose of the broadcast, I was responding to the question of, "What if the allegations are true?" May the Lord's mercy and truth be exalted in all the confusion and pain.

@HalLeath 9 месяцев назад

Why not say he is innocent until proven guilty??

@bordendonna 9 месяцев назад

Due process…. in matters of law, of course. But the church deals with these things administratively.

@bordendonna 9 месяцев назад

@@HalLeath he hasn’t been charged with a crime but he has been removed from his position… the leaders are calling it “credible and long-standing.” Credible and long-standing--many years. How many victims need to come forward before something is done? People come to church for help not to be victimized by a predator.

@Guyfrommars183 9 месяцев назад

@bordendonna, multiple things are being done. Mike Bickle has been asked not to teach from IHOPKC platform or be present in the prayerroom, while IHOPKC leadership investigates the claims. I'm deeply troubled by what I have heard, but because I am not 1st party to the situation, I'm slow to judge or speak, but ask God to bring everything to light, however the chips fall.

@Jlaff1014 9 месяцев назад

He stepped down from every leadership position and responsibility three years ago. The leadership asked him to step away from anything related to IHOPKC until an independent investigation could be done and he agreed.

@apxsports5904 9 месяцев назад

I think the best action here is to pray for all the potential victims, for Mike's family, for Mike, for the IHOP church and for the universal body of Christ. May the Spirit heal any of the wounds in the body of Christ and fix any joints that have become misaligned so that we would be whole and complete in His sight. Amen.

@adamtbarr 9 месяцев назад

Thank you for you humility, truth and love in this broadcast. I"m 48. A pastor's kid. A life-long minister. I've seen too many of these stories. So sad. God protect us. Forgive us. Help us to live and minister out of Your life Holy Spirit. Keep us from temptation. Guard us from pride. Let us never operate in self-sufficiency, selfishness or self-promotion. God.... we need you.

@1love1hope1faith 9 месяцев назад

I have really been blessed by Mike Bickel ministries so this news is very sad to hear 😢 Thank you Dr Brown for your heart in this sad situation to the body of Christ…. I pray for his family and church at IHOP 🙏🏽✝️

@louisaccardi2268 9 месяцев назад

I wept when I heard this accusation about Mike Bickle. I remember when my only son told me about this ministry back in the early 2000a in KCIHOPE that had 24 hour prayer and worship. I said, Jeremy you are kidding. He said no it is for real. I said take me there so I can see it. I saw it for myself and my wife and I would go up to KCIHOPE twice a year for a vacations based on prayer at the prayer center. We were both educators and found that time so refreshing. We gained so much from this ministry. My first thought when I heard about this was that this was a take over to besmirch Mike Bickle. However, I had to listen and discover that it might be true. We need to be in much prayer for Mike Bickle and his wife and children, as well as those hurt by this.

@LogosFarm 9 месяцев назад

My first thought was this was an attack against Mike, but you’re right we must be lowly and open. Praying for Mike and all involved.

@louisaccardi2268 9 месяцев назад

@@LogosFarm I don't go by first thoughts even when I get them. I was heart broken that this brother had fallen into this terrible sin, that destroys families and the women abused by a leader that is in a position of trust. When that spiritual power is misused it is devastating. Further, ministers become castaways due to these deceptive practices.

@louisaccardi2268 9 месяцев назад

@@LogosFarm So what are you getting at there sir.

@esterhaerani 9 месяцев назад

My heart is broken now. I loved listening to Mike's teaching. I'm praying for Mike's family. May GOD have mercy on them. This case reminds to my spiritual father, was a missionary pastor to Indonesia from Indiana. He was so kind and polite to me. He was accused to sexually abuse his grandchild, but I didn't believe the allegation by his step daughter-in-law. Again, my heart is broken. 😭😭😭

@9994biggs 9 месяцев назад

I am not a charismatic. I strongly disagree biblically with IHOP etc, BUT there’s no gloating here from me Dr Brown. Only sadness and I share your pain for the body of Christ and the heart of God. IF these allegations are true I pray for a biblical and Godly response from the leaders both towards Mike Bickel and the victims.

@jesusfreak7777 9 месяцев назад

If we go biblically then we all forgive him like Jesus would. And also you will be an imitator of Christ trust thats not easy. Because every NDE case Jesus is not about religion nor non charismatic or charismatic movement. I garantee 1 million percent Jesus is not about that. He is all about love. ( NDE case of Dean Braxton NDE case of Pam Reynolds NDE case of Mary Neal... All those patients have visited heaven and Jesus never said go to a non or pro charismatic church. ❤ God bless you

@angelirohival6270 9 месяцев назад

Ravi Zacharias was not a Charismatic. It can happen to anyone no matter the denomination or affiliation.

@9994biggs 9 месяцев назад

@@angelirohival6270 completely agree.

@naturalobserver1322 9 месяцев назад

@@stephenthompson9722 cheap shot dud. 🙄

@juliekowalski752 9 месяцев назад

IHOP does not practice biblical Christianity. They are a cult. God is exposing these wolves.

@moleenful 9 месяцев назад

My heart grieves for pastor Mike, tbe church and all affected. Standing in prayer for everyone.

@1love1hope1faith 9 месяцев назад

I agree!! 🙏🏽🙏🏽 praying that the body of Christ can all have a heart like this ✝️🙏🏽

@keithtorgersen9664 9 месяцев назад

@moleenful, thank you. What I've observed in this situation whether Mike is innocent or guilty, a huge rupture of trust has been created. I ask the Holy Spirit to mend this before the enemy tries to create even more havoc. Another lamentable thing is that in all the duration of time that IHOP has to do damage control, there is that much less time that there is for them to be prophesying and teaching on the war in Israel and end times events.

@meganbarrett2362 9 месяцев назад

I can’t tell you how much it means to me that you would speak about this with light that you have and the kindness that you have spoken it in. I’ve seen the posts on FB too. I think you are so helpful to the body of Christ. Thank you!

@janicemccarthy3680 9 месяцев назад

Thank you for handling this with such love and wisdom. We pray for Mike and family and at the same time praying for all of us to handle this with grace.

@jinaforjesus 9 месяцев назад

Beautiful admonition, a highly God-glorifying conversation. Thank you, my brother, for these reminders.

@carolinjane54 9 месяцев назад

I totally agree with your wife Nancy and stating that you cannot put ANY leader on a pedestal. If our eyes are focused on the leader and not on God then we will tend to turn away from the church. I see so many people putting good pastors and teachers on pedestals and am thinking if thesenpeople fall they will become discouraged and fall away...because as you say, non of us are perfect, me especially! Thank you for this scriptural yet loving response to this. I pray that it isnt true about Mike, but if it is then grace with discipline and hopefully he will humble himself and repent. God is shaking what can be shaken because He is calling all to repentance and to humble themselves before God and they will be exalted. But ultimately we want God to be exalted!

@karengeers3338 9 месяцев назад

I have never seen or known anyone who has a passion for Jesus more than Mike Bickle. He was my young adult Pastor back in St. Louis in 1978. He had such a passion for Jesus. I have NEVER known a man so in love with God. He was on Fire 🔥. Mike and Diane were married at that time and taking care of Mike’s brother who was paralyzed from a football injury. Mike married me and my husband in 1980 in St.Louis and shortly thereafter he moved back to Kansas City. Jim and I were eventually transferred to Michigan and have been here for 30 years. I have followed Mike Bickle from afar all these many years. God has used him in such a powerful way. My prayers go out to Mike, Diane and their family, their church family and entire ministry and the victims. We MUST judge ourselves so God does not have to judge us. Whatever can be shaken will be shaken. God is judging His church before He judges the world and He Is definitely judging the world quickly. Church PRAY! Jesus be Magnified ✝️🩸

@arinapak5823 9 месяцев назад

Mike's teachings changed my life. My faith to be more mature and I am SOOO GREATFUL TO GOD FOR HIS MINISTRY

@bordendonna 9 месяцев назад

Unless all these victims are lying …. this cannot be true. Appearances are most definitely deceiving.

@wassup934 9 месяцев назад

Cut and paste? I saw this exact same comment on a different channel…

@BigHolmie 9 месяцев назад

I can only add what I experienced with Mike and the IHOP situation. I remember the KC prophets and the spirit they were of. They exalted a so-called prophet named Paul Cain to a little lower than Jesus himself. Being young and impressionable I was in awe and curious. Anyhow, they were trying to bring other smaller churches under their church umbrella by exalting these "prophets" with Paul Cain being the greatest of the great. Mike, being a part of the KC prophets, exalted these gentlemen with all his might. Anyhow, a pastor named Ernie Gruen exposed these prophets as false prophets and their spell was broken. A little later it came to light that the man that Mike exalted to the same level as Paul who wrote in the New Testament, and Jesus our Lord, and as the greatest prophet of our time, turned out to be an alcoholic and a Sodomite. It was unbelievable. Anyhow, they laid low for awhile, and then I heard about IHOP. I was like, WOW, praise God! He has repented and turned his life around. A 24 hr prayer house? PRAISE GOD! I got to go check it out! I was very happy for Mike. So I went one night and saw the prayer room and everything and it seemed nice. Then I found out that Mike was teaching that day. It was really neat seeing all the young people hungry for the Lord. Then he came out and said a few things, then he started to teach on the woman who stayed in the temple to pray. Instantly, the second he started to teach, my discernment went off like a five alarm fire! The only way I can describe the sensing the Holy Spirit gave me was like I was literally in the presence of the devil himself. It was that strong, so much so that I practically ran out of there, I was dumbstruck. God was not with that man. I doubt that he is born again. Unless he's been saved since then, he is a false teacher that Jesus warns us about, deceived. I never went back. All these false prophets and teachers always end up in some sexual immorality mess, like clock work. Saints, trust your discernment not the self flattery of these exalted so called self appointed prophets with all their dreams. Like what Ezekiel faced, maybe 1 in 400 of these guys are actually authentic, and most of the authentically gifted ones who move in the gift of prophecy won't even call themselves prophets. Trust Jesus, who is the Spirit of prophecy!

@leoandolino4668 9 месяцев назад

I felt that way about Ravi Zakarias.

@arlenesmith1579 9 месяцев назад

I’m thankful for what you shared about what David Wilkerson said about the majority of ministers NOT falling. When I heard the news I was heartbroken, felt sick, in shock. Almost felt that no minister was capable of living a holy life. Thank you for addressing this sad situation.

@Medic545 9 месяцев назад

Thank you so much for your thoughts and insights Dr Brown.

@luckyluke5684 9 месяцев назад

Yes, you are so right brother. It is a time to get low. I have fallen so many times ...dear Jesus have mercy on all of us, purify us all and give us grace to fix our eyes unto Jesus only!

@arizonaskies 9 месяцев назад

Thank you Dr. Brown. Many of us need to hear this.

@suemoshier5475 9 месяцев назад

Everything that comes out about ministries makes me look within myself and pray for those involved. I will also keep the body in prayer.

@mariatobar2911 9 месяцев назад

🙏🏻

@legaleagle8425 9 месяцев назад

This is the most gentle graceful redeeming truth I’ve heard in a while. I’m going to try to review this maybe monthly because it’s something that helps us keep the main thing the main thing.

@theartistphiljc7682 9 месяцев назад

Why does it always seem to take so many years later before people come forward to accuse someone of something like this? That's not to say it isn't so, but I often wonder why they wait so long & so many come forward at the same time like it was planned? I often wonder about that. And then on top of it, the names of the accusers are not disclosed, but the names of the accused are made public? It doesn't seem fair.

@warrenhaney 9 месяцев назад

Sexual abuse is a complicated topic. I’ve been a believer for over 50 years. I’ve seen 2 sexual abuse issues in my own family. One of the situations happened to my daughter who came out with it when she was 12. She is now 25 and now confronting the issue in counseling. Many victims want to move on and go on with their lives but God has the last say. The person who abused our daughter is on a worship team. To this day he has never asked for forgiveness or made it right with her. This happened 14 years ago and Jesus has had us confront the issue with the abuser. I believe it’s for his own sake. God loves him but detests hidden sin and He will confront it. I pray for the victims and Mike Bickle. His ministry has changed my life but God is purifying the Bride. If the allegations are true then we need to have compassion for them and pray for them. Abuser’s can wreck a persons life and it may take many years for the victim to be healed. Most abusers manipulate their victims stay silent for the sake of family members involved. IHOP is a family so I totally get why victims may take years to speak out. Also many abusers are very sweet and quiet. This was the case for our situation also so it’s very hard to believe when you find out.

@analiza265 9 месяцев назад

Right, the right to face one's accuser is part of due process under the US constitution.

@samueljcottle4412 9 месяцев назад

And the accuser of the Brethern is satan. It is always jezebel’s process to destroy spiritual prophetic voices. I have no dog in the fight. Just be slow to act and speak! Expose every Jezebel that has been trying to destroy Mike and IHOP for years! Move mightily on everyone with dreams and visions of truth in Jesus name, amen!!!

@spoolsandbobbins 9 месяцев назад

It’s complicated. These men seem larger than life. They are inspiring, even very loving. They give you “special attention “ and if you don’t have the Holy Spirit you might fall for it. They also manipulate very well. They are actors, wolves in sheep’s clothing. The fear and guilt of the victim complicates exposure. It’s just nasty all around. How do I know? My perfectly, happily married pastor with 4 ADULT children asked me to have an affair with him. I was 19. Never told anyone but the Holy Spirit. He told me He’d take care of it. Within a year he was divorced and left the church with mental illness…

@theartistphiljc7682 9 месяцев назад

@@spoolsandbobbins But does that prove he’s guilty?

@holytothelord116 9 месяцев назад

There was a part of the statement that was cut for time. You can see it as the screen flashes white. What was cut was a long pause as Stuart was gathering himself to say that Mike Bickle was banned from the prayer room while this process is seen through. I don’t know how many of you here in the comments are actually at IHOP, but this is the most surreal thing I could never have imagined. As someone who is here in the community, I ask you to pray more than you normally would for us. This is my church home. This is my family. This man has been dear to us. I know, I am here for Jesus and no other person or personality. But all edges of this situation need your prayer more than any other thing. Please. Pray for our leaders who inherited this gigantic mess. Pray for the people hurling accusations and misinformation at our community, passing fake images of reports and spreading rumors around in order to sow discord. Through this situation, the devil is trying to make God’s people stop praying for the things happening in the world and to cease from worshiping Him. Pray.

@LogosFarm 9 месяцев назад

That part SHOCKED me. Mike has been in that room almost every time I’m there. We need prayer and we need the Truth to be brought to light. The prayer room is a place for The Lord not man.

@joycesmeltzer1705 9 месяцев назад

I am with you. I’ve loved Mike and the whole Bickle family, plus so many in the movement, for 30 years. I am an intercessor and in my last years spend most of my time praying for the Church across the World and especially God’s Shepherds.

@janets.4384 9 месяцев назад

Im praying the IHOP flame never goes out. May Holy Spirit ignite every heart in the fear of the Lord. Im saddened rocks would be thrown inside the camp. How could any of us ignore Mike’s example when betrayal or accusation visits the camp? I’m going low, forgive me Lord for my guard being off my mouth. I’m praying for the Lord’s visitation. Loved the Saturday 10 a.m. intercession today. Im shaking in the presence of the Lord!

@theartistphiljc7682 9 месяцев назад

My 24 year daughter is there right now since Sunday to Saturday. She says it's been powerful so far despite the cloud hanging over the ministry. Prayerfully the truth will come & Mike is found innocent...

@ChrisNiels 9 месяцев назад

Thanks Dr. Brown! Always appreciate your voice of revival and reason. 🔥

@samuelsnowbarger2052 9 месяцев назад

Thank you for your great and humble insights, and for not casting presumptuous judgment, thank you for being led by the Holy Spirit.

@keokio7 9 месяцев назад

ive been living here near IHOP in Kansas city since 2015. Whatever happened here with Mike Bickle changes nothing for me. I did not come here for him, nor for IHOP. Im here only because GOD asked me to come here. Why? i don't know. As far as I'm concerned, if the allegations are true, its just another man that fell into sin, which is all of us. He's in a leadership position so the context is different I know. We should pray for him, his family, all involved, and IHOP as a church.

@bajofry13 9 месяцев назад

God bless you old friend. Thank you for your humble, contrite and sensitive response. I'm your old New Hope Home (Waterfront Rescue Mission) chaplain servant from the Brownsville Revival years who also experienced Mike and Cathy's powerful prayer ministry at IHOPKC when I was getting ready to deploy to Iraq as an Army chaplain back in Fall of 2010. I'm also a C&MA chaplain who looked up to Ravi for decades. It really hurts and I've experienced my own close calls that have brought great empathy for these types of incidents. I join you and Nancy in continued prayers for IHOP and for the Line of Fire ministry. Blessings. I'll stay in touch.

@rebekahlynn4314 8 месяцев назад

My niece just sent me your video. You are answering ALL my questions and with scripture to back up everything. Thank you sir for restoring my faith and understanding of what is happening world wide. Exposure hurts but it has to be addressed but not only for the church but for the restoration and repentance of the individual involved. We must pray for these brothers and sisters that have fallen in sin. I know it could so easily happen to me. Thank you for this powerful word!

@hissweetgrace 9 месяцев назад

I really appreciate your treatment of this situation Dr. Brown. I don't have alot of words Just prayers and a heart heavy for thr hurt this involves for so many all around. I've loved Mike's teachings and have respected him for many years, always viewing him as a man above reproach. I'm praying for truth and light to shine that there will be no room for doubt about what really happened. I'm thankful that Jesus is on the throne and can redeem this awful situation.

@WeatherMoon 9 месяцев назад

I remember the truth about Ravi. So many, because of his stature, slurred the woman who came forward, because Ravi could never be that person who appeared Godly but was a devouring wolf. He needs investigated, and not hidden. Not any more. To protect the body, these need publicly known, because they are public. God will provide the truth

@ICU2B4UDO 9 месяцев назад

Yeah, that issue with Ravi was really ♥ Crushing...I was so p*ss*d off because I thought he was being slandered...When his daughter came out with the truth, that just sunk the whole ministry...

@erikanearpass3072 9 месяцев назад

My heart is broken. Pastor Mike Bickle’s teachings changed my walk. His library had incredible depths and was available for free. I was thinking about where his heart and mind had to be after knowing the whole world had heard these allegations and I pray God strengthens his family and him as they walk this out. I pray there is resolution quickly and I pray for the women involved. My mind struggles to understand this. I am grateful for a God who can use people like all of us for His kingdom despite our flesh and shortcomings. As always Dr Brown, your example and words are needed and may God hedge you and your family in and protect your walk. Regardless of the outcome I hope they do not remove his teachings, I am glad we still have the Psalms.

@paulklemesrud1137 9 месяцев назад

Hold onto that God gets Glory not Mike for all Godly teaching he taught take all his teachings as From Spirit of God that’s what I am doing as well of course very very very disturbed by these developments

@dominique10640 9 месяцев назад

What happened to innocent until proven guilty? He has denied the allegations. Amazing how he has helped so many people, and at the time of need they throw him under the bus..

@erikanearpass3072 9 месяцев назад

Allen Hood has also released a statement. Stuart Greaves would have been more bold in a defense. I could feel his pain in what he was expected to do. We will see the outcome. May God be part of the entire process.

@dawntaylor8749 9 месяцев назад

This is so good and timely. Thank you, Dr. Brown....this is ministering to me beyond the Bickle situation. I needed to be reminded of many of these things. Thank you.

@crissycattuzzo1460 9 месяцев назад

This was unheard of back in the 80’s. It brings back painful memories. Our pastor was “taking care”of several women in the church. My dad was a deacon and my mom cleaned the church every week. We were IN IT! My parents always tithed like no other. There were many things that they found or God showed them regarding what this man was doing right under our noses and it broke our family apart. Our lives were never the same!Many years later my dad said “we shouldn’t have been following man and it wouldn’t have hurt us so badly” but i don’t believe they were following man as they loved the Lord with all their being. My teenage years were chaotic as they started drinking heavily and they never trusted any church enough to be involved! I know my dad went home in 2016 and my mom will meet him one day. I can’t help but wonder where we would be if the church had not been so betrayed. The pastor died of cancer years ago and I truly pray he repented and made it right with God before he died! My advice if they find out this is true is don’t stop going to A church just because a man of God betrayed you as he is a human being/sinner. You don’t have to attend that church but attend A church. GOD BLESS!

@bordendonna 9 месяцев назад

Honest share. Amen

@josuelainey 9 месяцев назад

Wow, powerful story. Thank you for sharing. So true.

@crissycattuzzo1460 9 месяцев назад

@@bordendonna Thank you so much!

@crissycattuzzo1460 9 месяцев назад

@@josuelainey Thank you so much! I debated whether to post it so i really appreciate the feedback! ❤️

@bordendonna 9 месяцев назад

@@crissycattuzzo1460 you’re right because only God is wholly good and his love is perfect. ❤️no human can compare.

@rozmacleod3511 9 месяцев назад

Why not assume the allegations are false unless proved otherwise. I pray that no weapons formed against Mike Bickle would prosper, that every false allegation be refuted. Abba put a hedge of protection around the Bickle family, may Your favour encompass them. Strengthen Mike in his inner man. Thank you Lord for Mike Bickle, bless him him mighty I pray in Jesus name.

@davidxi3306 9 месяцев назад

How come it is like always some Ex members bring charges with help of anonyous women? at the same time after many years? Mike Bickle is innocent before proven guilty - let the adjugation process be completed before broadcasting on social media. Even if he is found to be guilty we should be like king David who lamented on Saul's fall " Do not tell it in Philstine " do not publish everywhere.

@VoiceoftheWatchmen 9 месяцев назад

I'm praying for Pastor Mike and the church of God under his leadership to experience mercy at this trying time. We are members of the same body. The finger does not mock the leg when the leg is in pain. The pain of the leg is the pain of the eye. This is a major attack from hell against the body. The victims, if this case is proven, are also part of the body. We must also support them. This is a sobering moment, and a time for everyone of us to recline to our prayer rooms and travail for the body.

@leecrotty658 9 месяцев назад

Amen. Thank you for this biblical spoken word

@glaciermax24 9 месяцев назад

I sat in a meeting in 2011 in Italy in a small town that he was ministering at, and as friends that were connected with the Brownsville revival. And I really enjoyed following Dr. Brown’s work over the years. He says it so carefully yet direct. Thank you , and I also have family members that I’ve been deeply involved in the leadership at the house of prayer.

@analiza265 9 месяцев назад

Ironic that Mike Bickle is one of the few church leaders that teaches the correct definition of grace: the ability that God gives us to live our lives pleasing to Him.

@seanclue6420 9 месяцев назад

I love Mike soooo much..... I have failed in so many ways and grieve over my sin😢😢

@naturalobserver1322 9 месяцев назад

I've been a Christian for nearly 45 years and never even heard of this pastor until he did something wrong. Amazing how that works.

@dominique10640 9 месяцев назад

How do you know he did something wrong, what happen to innocent until proven guilty?

@naturalobserver1322 9 месяцев назад

@@dominique10640 I've never heard of him until he was "accused" of doing something wrong. Feel better now? 🙄

@driverdave1298 9 месяцев назад

Feeling it like a punch in the gut 😢 On a positive note, we all bear the burden together, and will examine ourselves by the light and mercy of our Sovereign Lord.

@1234tellmewhatyourlookingfor 9 месяцев назад

Thank you, Dr Brown . I believe if it's true,repentance will bring restoration,if it's not true, God will judge the accusers. Let every man be a liar, but God is truth.

@warrenlilje9441 9 месяцев назад

One of Mike’s recent messages of things to be careful of in these last days leading up to the return of Jesus was an acronym I made a point of remembering, FOLD. Fear Offence Lust Deception I pray for the truth to be brought to light as I’m sure the devil wants this platform to be destroyed being the powerful platform in God’s Kingdom that it is! 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻

@tlsings55 9 месяцев назад

That has stuck with me since hearing that in Mike’s message awhile back (maybe 2 years ago?) I have thought of that acronym and talked with others about it so often since then.

@FLIPPER1439 9 месяцев назад

Every person standing behind pulpits especially-are subject to GOD EXPOSING SIN that will harm HIS BODY! Almighty God has been exposing falseness, hidden sins, and will always do so until JESUS CHRIST returns.💥⚡️💥

@carolewheeler7620 9 месяцев назад

This is so sad. And yes it hurts the body of Christ and no one should ever gloat over someone's failure. Hopefully these allegations aren't true.

@caroltousignant1542 9 месяцев назад

Good message, good understanding, knowledge, Wisdom and truth. Thank you Dr. Michael Brown. Shalom!

@LittleCreek30 9 месяцев назад

Hi Dr. Brown, I live in KC and go to Mike Bickles Church/prayer room. I recently came across your book “Playing with Holy Fire.” I just finished it a week or two ago... right before all of this came out. I believe God highlighted it to me beforehand, it was so helpful and encouraging. I’ve only recently heard about you and I’m encouraged to see you care and respond during this time. Thank you

@borneyraybergantine2124 9 месяцев назад

3 failures 1. The Cardinal from Rome invited by Mike 2. Privately asking forgiveness after publicly despising Jim Fields 3 Mike announcing no church discipline on any homosexual on the 200 member worship team

@HerMajesty1 9 месяцев назад

@borneyraybergantine2124 There were people on the worship team who were openly homosexual? That never would have happened 20 years ago.

@LogosFarm 9 месяцев назад

@@borneyraybergantine2124Point 3 was one of the reasons I’ve withdrawn from IHOP, as well as Francis Chan being brought in who is openly supportive of the pope.

@elizabethgu3237 9 месяцев назад

The Lord is purifying His Bride through fires

@angelirohival6270 9 месяцев назад

Yes. Before He comes.

@TGriner 9 месяцев назад

Are you saying Mike is guilty of those allegations? I think you are. Should we not wait and see what the other side of the story is? You have implied a verdict that he is guilty. I think that is unwise.

@Adam_A_Christian 9 месяцев назад

To be fair, he said (biblical) due process needs to take place. Sadly, for anyone with eyes to see, it seems clear Satan has his pet cancel culture aimed squarely at the church. It's tragic, all the years of exposing Jezebel, but as soon as it gets too near the church, we remain silent.

@matt76716 9 месяцев назад

That's true. It may turn out not to be true, so it shouldn't be spoken of as automatically true. Investigate and then give a verdict, not the other way round.

@richardkrispell7904 9 месяцев назад

I’ve seen a few comments about another evangelical preacher who recently fell, we all fall at times, yes sometimes to less serious sins, but be gracious when a leader falls, remember they are subject to more temptations, due to their position or fame. If a Christian you know fell perhaps in your family, would you not long for them to repent and then be restored. Well God loves preachers who fall, they are his family, let us all spend less time judging and more time praying. This is a really graceful and practical video, and it’s made me consider how much more accountable I need to be.

@mannyleon2122 9 месяцев назад

Thank you for your input. We’re all needy

@VeriousSmithIII 9 месяцев назад

I pray that this is not true 😢. If so, I pray mercy and healing for all involved 😢😢😢

@user-fw8wr8ji8h 9 месяцев назад

Thanks Dr Brown praying for all

@janmattison3044 9 месяцев назад

I am thankful for you , Dr. Brown, for giving us something positive to listen to regarding this extremely sad uncovering. It helps me to process through it all - & also deal with any secrets in my own life.

@gladyskaranja2091 9 месяцев назад

That true Lord can we be like David May we fall not in secret sin

@TheNathanMac 9 месяцев назад

Just saying I love Mike, I’ve had to recently step down from ministry because of personal issues due to an old addiction, have had to have a lot of work and therapy and prayer to get better. So I’m not here to throw stones. But thank you Jesus, for purifying your bride by revealing the hidden things. Whether these claims are true or not, but I also pray for any victims, but ultimately thank you Lord for revealing sin within the bride at this time. The Father is cutting off the things that don’t produce fruit and purifying the bride in this time and making us pure and spotless.

@TruthisMarching 9 месяцев назад

Thank you for stepping down! If only everyone were so honest, but they add hypocrisy to their other sin.

@highwayhermit 9 месяцев назад

Those who become religious leaders often are tempted to abuse their positions. In the last 5 years i have seen many fall.

@middangeard374 9 месяцев назад

Agreed, but I would say any leader is tempted to abuse their position, even on a local level. But when you are the head of a ministry that is bearing fruit, you are probably all the more under attack.

@thegatheringqc8982 9 месяцев назад

@@middangeard374and this is why they need constant prayer and those who are their armor bearers. Paul said to pray at all times for the saints

@jessicazachman1903 9 месяцев назад

I think you have to be careful with the “but for the grace of God there I might also go…” statement. Yes be humble. Yes be careful to not sin in our anger, but choosing to sexually abuse another person is not something that every person in leadership is just a step away from. If that is true than we are all in trouble. Please think carefully about that statement before using it.

@considerthebirds 9 месяцев назад

Well said.

@analiza265 9 месяцев назад

You might be closer than a step away if you think you're not just a step away.

@TruthisMarching 9 месяцев назад

Exactly. People are in sin or they're not. This is not a gray area. If you "walk with a limp" does that mean you're hiding something too? We need integrity in ministers! If they know they don't have integrity, it's not that hard to resign.

@jenealeverett2269 9 месяцев назад

@@analiza265so, are we all guilty of sexual abuse? Should he not be held legally accountable since we are all guilty?

@analiza265 9 месяцев назад

@@jenealeverett2269, of course we're not all guilty of sexual abuse, but none of us are above temptation. Even Jesus was tempted IN EVERY WAY that we are yet without sin. I'm not excusing sin, I'm saying that except for the grace of God none of us are above reproach.

@jocelynelevesque6682 9 месяцев назад

Thank you Holy Spirit for the great wisdom coming out of Brother Michael's words and attitude!

@chicagogal 9 месяцев назад

Bickle has nothing to do with The Holy Spirit.

@hoperules8874 9 месяцев назад

😢Thank you, Dr. Brown, for bringing loving compassion to tough situations.

@sandrabriceno5815 9 месяцев назад

We are “fragile”Galatians 6:1-2. God have mercy on us. 🙏🙏🙏

@thevillageofnod 9 месяцев назад

I think people are reacting too quickly. We need to wait and allow investigations to move forward.

@dominique10640 9 месяцев назад

Absolutely, innocent until proven guilty, this rumors of guilt should stop, we need to pray for him and wait. He is God's servant according to Romans 14

@Cara657 9 месяцев назад

@@dominique10640any prayers for the victims?

@LogosFarm 9 месяцев назад

Amen. Let’s get lowly in prayer and wait. Jesus remained silent in the face of accusations.

@HalLeath 9 месяцев назад

Amen!! However, the announcement has come before an actual investigation that has been concluded. They are going on the premise "Why would they lie." That is not a reliable premise, in my experience.

@yvonneparks 9 месяцев назад

@@HalLeath Incorrect. They have done an internal investigation (the executive team) and when they had finished, made the public statement. Now they are doing another external investigation by a third party. The Exec Leadership would have never made it public without solid understanding of what they were releasing into the media.

@paulzink9746 9 месяцев назад

Thank you Dr. Brown for your insights.

@ForwardTalk 9 месяцев назад

I love Dr Brown’s heart.

@victoriahardin1560 9 месяцев назад

You don't know his heart or anyone else's. People need to stop saying "s/he has a good heart." 1 CORINTHIANS 2:11 (KJ21) - For what man knoweth the things of a man, save the spirit of man which is in him? Even so no man knoweth the things of God, but the Spirit of God.

@FriendlyEvangelist 9 месяцев назад

Mike's heart is deceived! He won't repent of Evil Sid Roth and his fake mannerisms and over the top tv show with people seeing fake "visions ". And Mike needs to repent of supporting Brownsville Revival and all the fakeness that happened there. No wonder he's crying about Bickle's sexual allegations! Because Mike Brown is DECEIVED ABOUT WHO THESE PEOPLE TRULY ARE

@ForwardTalk 9 месяцев назад

@@victoriahardin1560 I stand corrected.

@sunsetstormx 9 месяцев назад

Careful. All hearts are subject to major fall. I say to LOVE the heart of GOD. Fall before the feet of a Holy God!

@ToOpen6seven 9 месяцев назад

@@ForwardTalk Thank you and God bless for being willing to take correction, that is a beautiful trait. Jeremiah 17:9 “The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked: who can know it?”

@kristynankrom7 9 месяцев назад

God is weeding out the abusers. May God bless and comfort the victims of Mike Bickle.

@HerMajesty1 9 месяцев назад

IF there are victims.

@stephenarrigo5679 9 месяцев назад

AMEN!!

@Vern_Levine 9 месяцев назад

If this is true (and we don't know yet if it is) it would be VERY disappointing. I remember when Jim Baker and Jimmy Swaggart both fell and it was devastating for people in my family and in our church. I was young but I learned a lot from it -- mainly the lessons were we shouldn't look up to people for perfection and also anyone can fall. Anyone. We are all accountable to watch where we walk we are all susceptible to falling if we aren't careful.

@Kathleen253 9 месяцев назад

Definitely 💯

@FriendlyEvangelist 9 месяцев назад

Well said bro!

@Cuinn837 9 месяцев назад

I was not surprised by Jim Baker as I had not quite trusted him, but I was shocked by Jimmy Swaggart.

@Guyfrommars183 9 месяцев назад

@Vern_Levine, that's 100% my thoughts on this matter. I attended 3 years of their IHOPU bible school and been around the community since. If the alegations are true, this is deeply troubling. However, my hope is in Jesus' & His leadership, not ultimately in Mike Bickle or any other leader. I stand before God on judgement day & have to account to Him alone. If Mike has fallen in this way, I desire justice & healing to the victims, and repentance for Mike. If false, then justice for Mike and repentance of the accusers.

@kathywalton4273 9 месяцев назад

Thankyou Dr Brown for fatherly wisdom ❤

@brianbritton1385 9 месяцев назад

Thanks for your voice and wisdom during this time Dr. Brown.

@Kinugo1 9 месяцев назад

IHOP was in the 21 Prayer and fast with millions. It was important. Go one with or without Mike. He understands.

@semharasmerom7241 9 месяцев назад

Let us All pray for Mike Bickle and the body of Christ in IHOPKC. Thank you Dr Michael Brown much respect.

@Cara657 9 месяцев назад

Let’s pray for the victims first.

@stephenarrigo5679 9 месяцев назад

Exactly...Pray tor the TRUE victims!!...What a bunch of pablum from this poster!!

@pamelaabettis7225 9 месяцев назад

I have thought a lot of King David today. And I have been reminded that people that lead us are humans. All of whom are capable of great failure. You are right, Jesus is the only one to look to for perfection. I’m grateful for the humble way the leadership team is handling this and pray for all in pain at this time.

@mandyleaguemamaleague6968 9 месяцев назад

Please continue to encourage and speak to the body of Christ regarding this sad situation . We are grieving and shocked. Even allegations alone are heartbreaking for all involved. God is moving on his church, we need to be united in repentance and mercy ! Thank you for this podcast it was helpful.

@crystalsky9512 9 месяцев назад

Nobody's throwing stones...its called the truth....thats the problem....you try and white wash the truth.

@abrahambendavid.7474 9 месяцев назад

I will continue to support Ihopkc

@dennisswartzy 9 месяцев назад

I weep with you, doctor brown. We are going to just keep contending that the truth will come out. And that people will get healed set free and That the Lord will not be hurt again. I weep when he weeps.

@gladyskaranja2091 9 месяцев назад

I agree with you

@elizabethanewberry7364 9 месяцев назад

Then i am staying away from IHOP and Forerunner i been going there for a long time even as a little girl i felt weird things there its called discernment. God Bless this women coming forwards i pray it wont sweeped under the rug because this is isnt a mans world this is God's world he loves his girls and women and he loves Mike Bickle he needs to recheck himself

@bkezelos 9 месяцев назад

What a mess. But the Lord has no problems shining His light on it. What I’ve experienced over 37 years as a believer attending various churches is that leaders will not listen to correction. Repentance is preached but rarely genuinely enacted. The fact is we all need to get better at repenting and leadership owe it to the body of Christ to lead the way.

@TaylorMaid-ho2xw 9 месяцев назад

Prayers for his wife!

@myteacorn 9 месяцев назад

Thank you Michael. This is a perfect response for he Church to follow. All of us must walk humbly before our loving Father.

@d.barnes4592 9 месяцев назад

I had a warning dream about ihop 3 weeks ago. Even tried to call the office and realized the place was too big with too many departments.

@nl396 9 месяцев назад

Innocent until proven guilty.

@madduckks 9 месяцев назад

Our culture encourages people to lie and be victims... Innocent until proven guilty..

@mikem3789 9 месяцев назад

Innocent until caught.

@christincommon5496 9 месяцев назад

That is criminal court, not the household of God. We have a different standard.

@HeyKellyShea 9 месяцев назад

Do you know why everyone is assuming he is guilty automatically?

@considerthebirds 9 месяцев назад

@@HeyKellySheabecause supposedly three leaders who use to be close to him came forward, they couldn’t take it any longer.

@CoyMadison-if4em 9 месяцев назад

Prayers for Mike Bickle and his restoration to the Lord.

@Soufelipemoraes 9 месяцев назад

It’s not time to think in his restoration

@Cara657 9 месяцев назад

Any prayers for his (alleged) victims? 😢

@abpgrace 9 месяцев назад

I highly recommend listening to the full 20 min message given on Sunday by the leadership of iHopKC. They spoke about bringing in outside counsel, so Michael Brown should already know they’re doing this rather than “hoping” as he says they will. Also, for the sake of 1st hand information rather than listening only to another commentary. I honestly don’t know why outsiders need to speculate or comment. I don’t believe this pleases the Lord.

@ElektroCuration 9 месяцев назад

I think it’s a fair question to ask if the open letters signed by Wes, Brian, Dwayne, and a latter statement from Allen Hood, were brought in coordination with legal counsel working on behalf of these men..

@thegatheringqc8982 9 месяцев назад

In listing your possibilities of reasons this could happen like pride etc, there's another one you forgot to mention. When we get tempted it's not a sin. But if we don't have close intimate friends that don't judge and we can share when getting tempted or attacked then we're not practicing confessing, accountability, and humbling ourselves (pride). A lot of ministers at his level would feel shame in confessing or sharing that they struggled with this or that and try to just pray through instead of asking for prayer and God hasn't called us to walk alone so sadly sometimes this stuff happens. People, have good friends that you can share ANYTHING with and deal with it together, please in Jesus name.

@teresabryson9657 9 месяцев назад

It’s not just the sheep congregation believers in need of deliverance …but… Sounds like LEADERS as well 🙏✝️🇨🇦

@TheNemesisProject 9 месяцев назад

Love listening to you! I live in the Kansas City area and it has affected many people I know who have or are part of the ministry. Thank you for as always your level headed and godly approach. BTW when I close my eyes you sound like Alan Alda! Hawkeye Brown! Take care

@fredkornis793 9 месяцев назад

I never heard of you… Michael Brown??? but I sure needed to hear your heart today … Thank you brother!! 🙏🏼💕

@victoriahardin1560 9 месяцев назад

Titus 1: Qualifications for Elders 5 This is why I left you in Crete, so that you might put what remained into order, and appoint elders in every town as I directed you- 6 if anyone is above reproach, the husband of one wife,1 and his children are believers2 and not open to the charge of debauchery or insubordination. 7 For an overseer,3 as God’s steward, must be above reproach. He must not be arrogant or quick-tempered or a drunkard or violent or greedy for gain, 8 but hospitable, a lover of good, self-controlled, upright, holy, and disciplined. 9 He must hold firm to the trustworthy word as taught, so that he may be able to give instruction in sound doctrine and also to rebuke those who contradict it.

@bernardhenderson1146 9 месяцев назад

Honestly people should be ashamed of yourself..... People hoping abd waiting for some to fail..... It saddens me that people gloat over someone failing... I pray all involved are restored to Christ... Love covers a multitude of sins.....

@shortygreyhannah 9 месяцев назад

Love also rejoices with the truth.

@considerthebirds 9 месяцев назад

@@shortygreyhannahyes, those who already knew or were being expected to hide must have some sense of relief, their healing can begin.

@johnmartin4316 9 месяцев назад

Where is innocent till proven guilty.? You are assuming he is guilty. He stood himself down years ago from the church.

@adamguy33 9 месяцев назад

We say this , but we don't really practice it. If one is accused of a crime they are thrown in jail until the trial is over. Some can get out if they can pay the bail, but still you really have to be proven inoccent before your off the hook

@madduckks 9 месяцев назад

The leadership at IHOPKC basically already arrived at a verdict. Stuart Greaves has a history of taking up victims causes... Where is the fear of the Lord?

@firebasetc 9 месяцев назад

we don't know if the charges are true. lets not assume they are. innocent until proven guilty is a good idea.

@Kathleen253 9 месяцев назад

This type of situation and allegations happened in my local church. The pastor never repented and said it never happened. He was removed from his position. He was told he could not open up a church within a cetain distance, which he disregarded. He finally moved from that location and is in a new prominent location in same town . After years, still no repentance. 😢

@mbgrafix 9 месяцев назад

If he is guilty and unrepentant, then rest assured, God IS dealing with it...but He is doing so on His OWN TERMS! _"Do not be deceived, God is not mocked; for _*_whatever a man sows, that he will also reap._*_ For he who sows to his flesh will of the flesh reap corruption, but he who sows to the Spirit will of the Spirit reap everlasting life."_ *Galatians 6:7-8* God *_IS_* Sovereign...ALWAYS in control...even of the messes!

@rjcm2212 9 месяцев назад

I think this is a common story. In the Catholic Church people were moved by the church even after there was a clear set cases of multiple abuse. The body of Christ needs to take responsibility for the protection of the sheep

@Gottifire 9 месяцев назад

What caused the leadership to not take his word? Was there proof?

@HeyKellyShea 9 месяцев назад

@@Gottifirethat’s what I want to know, everyone is acting as if he is guilty automatically

@rjcm2212 9 месяцев назад

@@Gottifire there was an open letter by: senior ihop leaders who stated that the claims were credible and that they tried to talk to him directly but that he used intimidation tactics

@roscoerichardson3956 9 месяцев назад

Everyone needs to see how this plays out. It’s absolutely gut wrenching if true. It’s gut wrenching if not true also, because that means people who were once close to the ministry are bringing false allegations. It’s hard not to play out the what ifs before knowing the verdict, but no one should get too emotionally involved in any scenario other than this is a bad circumstance.

@margienielsen5939 9 месяцев назад

Very well said and so true. I am struggling to keep my mind off this until we know the truth. I love Mike and don't believe a word of this.

@barbaraamos385 9 месяцев назад

It's not easy to completely think of other things sis...Only when I am deeply worshipping the Lord - but I did have many wonderful times of prayer for Mike, Diane and all involved throughout the night.@@margienielsen5939

@gareth2736 9 месяцев назад

@@margienielsen5939 how well do you know Mike personally (not just from a distance)? How.well do you personally know the other IHOP leaders who are taking the accusations seriously? How well do you know the women who have brought the accusations?

@margienielsen5939 9 месяцев назад

@@gareth2736 your questions are of no relevance

@margienielsen5939 9 месяцев назад

@@KristiLEvans1 🤣🤣🤣

@Liz-bn8fw 9 месяцев назад

I love Mike's ministry and hope healing occurs. Leaders are tempted more than others but I am encouraged that Jesus deals with the chaff in the church before the world. God is cleaning us up and yes, it will hurt but I am comforted that it is for our good in the longrun.

@discipleinlight 9 месяцев назад

If the leadership team is heartbroken....a good sign they think its true. Until his accusers come forth it will all be guesswork to us. I used to watch and love the livestream from 2008-2012. In those days I was highly blessed by IHOP.

@Definitely_not777 9 месяцев назад

People who serve the true Jesus do not act like this and damage and violate women over a span of 30 years.

@eileenmcgrath4457 9 месяцев назад

I pray these allegations are not true.

@SheikhN-bible-syndrome 9 месяцев назад

They are get over it

@FriendlyEvangelist 9 месяцев назад

They probably are. Get over him and repent of following these disgusting, fake NAR prophets.

@WholesalingHomes 9 месяцев назад

This is a very fair video. It’s so sad to see, if true. It’s sad to see even as an allegation, because the damage of the perception of guilt. I pray for all involved. God help us all.

@AmericanDreamAlbum 9 месяцев назад

May God bring repentance, healing, restoration, and new life and hope to all involved. He is a miracle working God!

@crystalsky9512 9 месяцев назад

Im sure some had to know and just covered it up.

@teresabryson9657 9 месяцев назад

Leaders should be above reproach🙏✝️🇨🇦

@TheStemo1 9 месяцев назад

God has used IHOP in my life and many other lives I know but I've also heard stories about intimidation from the leadership in situation. It seems like this will be perfect fodder for anti-charismatics, but I think the prayer movement and IHOP will continue on even if it is difficult clawing back from this. I hope IHOP takes full accountability and full transparency as they maybe haven't done in the past.