Rest in peace American 587 

That must’ve been extremely terrifying. It would’ve been indeed really really bad if it was another act of terrorism. However, a question, did you see the Japan Airlines 747 that caused the turbulence visually? If yes, do you remember having a feeling or thought that these airplanes were too close to each other when it comes to departing?

Interesting story

Wow just 30 mins. Was this the flight that crashed into the bridge?

And you witnessed it? That’s crazy

And then everyone clapped

@@TheTrue22can you stop. Like seriously. Obviously u can’t believe everyone on the internet but u could’ve just made it harder on someone.

Rip

💔💔🕊️💔💔

Woah.. rest in peace ❤

Am sorry to hear . Be in peace all of you .

I'm so sorry 😢😢😢😢

@@Theresa-lt3ki ty

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He was from Washington heights right? I live on riverside Drive. I have been on flight 587 in the past, in 1996,1999 and 2000. All from JFK to STQ and back. I remember one of the flight attendants too, Carol palm. This whole accident could have been avoided had people use their senses and think correctly at the time. There was a passenger who had a dream about a plane crashing and still got on, multiple things happened that were very weird to multiple people regarding this flight, may they all RiP

That’s just so deep

So eerily sad. :((

I guess the memory is unforgettable.

Wow😮

😢😢😢😔😔

I’m sorry for ur loss. Lessons were learned and future family of yours won’t have the same accident.

What were the names of your cousins and aunt?

@@Preppy429 my Aunt Name Nurys Raquel Polanco. My Cousin Name Ercilia Fernandez Polanco. My Baby Cousin Name Angelo Dilone.

@@TMTHEGOAT_14 Thank You😔🙏🏼

@@Redd.Magmar lost 3 relatives on that plane crash too

There were 2 passenger. Hilda Yolanda Mayol who used to work in the WTC au non pain restaurant in the first floor and Felix Sanchez who used to work in the WTC just weeks earlier but cleared his office to work midtown Manhattan. He was a Washington heights native

Nah bro had his warning ⚠️

@@smhfs had 9/11 never happened, this flight would have taken off at its original time of 8Am and this accident would have been avoided. Also during the 9/11 attacks there’s a recording of flight 587 pushing back and being told not to take off that same morning of the twin towers

RIP 🕊️❤️

Final destination.. sometimes its true.. my friend narrowly escaped a car accident but he died last year in bike when a dog suddenly crashed into wheels.. 😢

Damn! Crazy

Good thing the Yankees lost to the Diamondbacks. But hey, they won the year before that against the Mets. And the year before that ( i forget who they beat, I think the Braves?) and the year before that against the Padres. A threepeat!! Not so bad.

Joe torre had the infield in as well. If they were at double play depth it was an easy inning ending double play but runner on 3rd one out so they had to have the infield in. That was an amazing World Series

No shit that's crazy,thanks for the info

MR didn’t cost the Yankees the ring that year. That was Manager Joe Torre for pulling his infield in with less than 2 outs. He was betting on MR getting a strike out then he would have had his infield at normal 2 out depth. The YANKEES lost that series after blowing a 3-0 lead not the UNANIMOUS HOF INDUCTEE #42

So sorry for your loss . ❤️

😔😔😔

what year and sorry for your loss

She’s in better place now rip

​@@al687stop rhe lies

that was an awful twist in this horrible tragedy

La vida es muy injusta..En verdad lo siento😟

The controller for the bird strike leading to the Hudson River landing seemed so together. There was a point he thought the plane had crashed. Watching him go through the emotions he kept in check throughout. I think highly of him.

Those guys had hands down the most stressful job after 2001. Especially right after. Like goddamn dude. Can you imagine?

I recall is was the Co Pilot flying at the time not the Captain

@@jx6564 yes, it was the co-pilot who was doing the excessive control inputs.

Eddie States was a good man. Sten Molin was a sexual predator.

@@DougDemsko It Sten Molin and he had been warned by John Lavelle not to use the rudder so heavily

Capt Edward States?

Rip

What other choice did pilot have in that situation? What an awful tragedy.

​@@catlady3360NOT to use hard rudder!

​@@elialmodovar6685Pilots just shouldered the blame, but it was not their fault. Every plane before it was designed correctly, theirs was not.

Air bus should have designed it better where you cannot put in such a hard rudder input at speeds where it would damage the structure

@@rickyhall1772correct

Holy sh*t

Now you have 2 birthdays

Like a wise man once said: "If you want to make God laugh, tell him what you've got planned for the day!" Either way...

Omg😢😢

That’s insane

Crystal Castles - Transgender

I love crystal castles

Real bro this gives me goosebumps

Except Sten Molin. After this article was published, credible accounts emerged implicating First Officer Sten Molin in multiple rapes and sexual assaults against both adults and minors. While this is a separate topic to the technical details discussed in this article

Hahah great

No, you did a great job explaining👏

Your comment makes total sense - your age doesn't matter ...

Thank you for the explanation, it really helped to understand the situation without researching it!❤

Thank-you, really appreciate you taking time to provide context - you did a great job!

:((

No it was not idiot

The explanation was great thank you for clarifying what happened, what an awful event...

It was 2001, but in November.@@dgaming9791

@@dgaming9791 bro american 587 crashed in november, not september

@@dgaming9791nope that was not this crash

@@phillipbanes5484 exactly looks like a 777

@@phillipbanes5484Well yeah I trust Boeings a hella lot more still but if a company says don’t do this with our plane don’t train your pilots to do that thing with the plane

Wow

I’ve worked aviation the majority of my adult life. I only fly when absolutely necessary. I get bad anxiety when I fly bc I agree with you…I’ve seen too much.

But statistically speaking it's still safer than driving.

But statistically speaking it's still safer than driving.

But statistically speaking it's still safer than driving.

Not enough emojis

We wish it never crashed it was very scary

​@@reilley7734wdym?

​@@reilley7734😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭 enough?

​@@CarlitoLOL694No amount of emojis will accommodate for the 265 ppl that died in the crash

Thanks for your service, especially then. ❤️🤍💙

This warms my heart a lot. I push myself a lot to make videos like these:)

Thanks to Allah (God) that He still kept her long live. Aamiin.

Wow, your Mom is very lucky ❤❤❤

Stop the cap

Nah it’s real

bro there is no way you are capping my dude if you were telling the truth you probably would have better grammar ngl@@RaulAlizada

WHY PLEASE TELL ME I NEVER UNDERSTOOD

It’s because souls quickly conveys the total number of people by including passengers and crew, but I agree with your sentiment that it has a sort of ominous tone.

Yes they use souls because it gives a human count instead of saying there was 200 passengers and five staff or whatever.

Two of my favourite singers won't fly even though they could make so much money touring the world. Im the same. Im getting on a train next week to go up north.

Rockaway

@@phillipbanes5484 you can repeat that all you like but you'd be wrong and a false hood. Which is why actual professional investigators only cite it as a much lower factor for fixing to prevent another dum dum pilot from being able to do it and you are a troll on a RU-vid video.

@@phillipbanes5484 no you aren't. Most people who say that are trolling. You have cherry picked. Are a poor researcher and DELIBERATELY omitted the full section which goes on to say on testing it and other non crash planes the stress was found to be a direct result of the Pilot inputs not the 15 year old design which had not ONE other Incident of that type. IF it was inherently shit and unsafe as you Unprofessionally assert planes would have been falling from the sky. Get a life you numpty. Pilot error all day as the report stated as the primary cause NOT the other way around.

​@@phillipbanes5484"I'm a professional" is the funniest joke I've ever heard

@@phillipbanes5484 You would be working instead of spending time on commenting about "Airbus bad" everywhere, therefore you're lying

Lol you have no idea what you’re talking about my guy . Do some research

American Airlines went against airbus training. They told crew to use hard Rudder. Blame the high ranks, not the pilots of 587.

Also every plane before it didn't have this problem with the rudder. The vertical stabilizer was resigned because of this, both mechanically replacing composite mounts with titanium AND restricting the movement of the rudder while at various speeds two reduce load on the stabilizer. But yeah it's the PILOTS FAULT. 😔

​@@rickyhall1772Nonsense you do mot use rudder inflight. On any big airliner. Also the rudder did not just snap the pilit induced a huge amount of stress pressing left and right many times over.

@@techdefined9420 Then tell me why they had to redesign the rudder to include limiters to prevent full rudder input when over a certain speed AND they reengineered every connection bracket for the stabilizer to be made from titanium instead of composite. When they could have just kept all the original equipment and retrained all the pilots. Please, explain how this wasn't an engineering issue.

They initially thought it was a hijacking, then understood they overused the rudder..

What did they see? I’ve been on 587 numerous times, in 1996,1997 , 1999 NOV until iFebruary 2000 from STQ to JFK

​@@yuseefdelrosario4821 you have been on American airlines flight 587 many times

@@tradewithbest yeah, I remember one of the flight attendants Carol palm

@@tradewithbest587 operated numerous times before the incident under “flight 587”

to make you feel slightly better, remember that airplanes are extremely safe, those that end up crashing are almost always due to pilot error such as in this case, first officer applied heavy rudder inputs causing the whole tail to rip off

They’re really safe dude. This is really rare. Remember that you are more likely to get struck by lightning on your way to the airport than actually get into a plane craah

​@@QuickAviation there are basically only 2 reasons: The first one is pilot error, but the second one might be worse, Military activities, Malaysia 17, shot down by Buk missle system Iran Air 655, shot down by US ship Korean Air 007, shot down by Su-15 Soviet jet fighter

Planes are less likely to crash then cars

Guys, I know.. Im an aviationist too. I mean as in we wouldn’t have to go thru the pain of losing lots of people

You’re thinking of Enrique Wilson. He was supposed to be on AA587. Ultimately this crash is juxtaposed with the rise of JetBlue, which drove American off the route completely.

@@phillipbanes5484you can stop going to every context comment and spamming airbus a300 bad design,I wouldn’t even bother arguing,maybe go search up Wikipedia or ask the ntsb,idc about mechanical failure because pilot error was 90%of it,they should not have overused their rudder so hard,that’s why its tail came off,the first officer pushed the aircraft out of the limit by overusing rudder,like seriously you are only convincing 2 year old toddlers with your long,useless text,its pilot error,accept it.

@@phillipbanes5484 when did I said that I’m a airbus fanboy?seems like you just can’t accept that overuse of rudder was how aa587 crashed Boeing fanboy

Well i know your grandpa house 😆 lol

@Exotic-edits_ 💀

Yep. Rockaway Queens?

Kind of,the tail came off,then the engine.

It was pilot error, the copilot overused the rudder due to the training given by American airlines

Okay, I’m sorry, but, “mowing up leaves”?

@@raven_1133 I know it's not "green" using a gas mower to mow the yard and get the leaves up........ but it sure beats raking !!

Are you born in 1990

@AviationTime913 actually own my own home and have always enjoyed doing the yard work.......P.S. born in 1957 (And still doing my own yard work)

So sad

That works

Carbon fiber is much stronger than aluminum

it was the fixing bolts that were over stressed ... as in the inputs of the pilot exceeded 150% of the design load through his aggressive use of the rudder pedals.

Yep, pretty much the tldr version.

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@@YourAviationGuy78noo :( Ive fixed it now i think

yeah because your discord is more important than all the people on that plane

@@D4RK2020Tf is he supposed to do about the people on the plane? A $500 million dollar compensation was already given to the families of the victims. I bet that’s something you can never do with your silly comment.

pls 1 like I work hard

Many Dominican Americans from NYC had family on that flight. When this happened, I recall almost everyone in the community knowing someone affected.

@@KillerChair1 yes but this is the comment section

Are you just straight up dissing the toddlers trying to get attention because that’s good so keep it going

@@6904LoL is this sarcastic

No, not at all like that. Before a flight the pilots make a flight path for the autopilot using checkpoints that airports have, kind of like highways in the air almost. They always know where they're going, so dont worry :D where u going btw?

@@QuickAviation I went to Minnesota for 5 days

The flight was fine I went to Australia and I have a flight on the way back

@xadorbs.taylorx I liked it I swam in the Mississippi River

Maybe you'll take advantage of the in-flight English lessons!?🙂

@@phillipbanes5484 not at all , pilot error. Went beyond design limits. Also followed a heavy too close for turbulence. Stop making excuses.

@@phillipbanes5484 you aren't a professional or you'd have noted that the report cited the primary reason wasn't the design. If it was a shit design it would have been the primary reason. The report states Airbus had a design tolerance which would have been safe if followed however culturally American pilots used harder rudder, additionally the pilot used this to an excessive amount. Stop cherry picking the small bits and missing the woods for the trees. You merely do yourself and any service you press to be from a disservice.

@@phillipbanes5484 The NTSB concluded that the enormous stress on the vertical stabilizer was due to the first officer's "unnecessary and excessive" rudder inputs, and not the wake turbulence caused by the 747. The NTSB further stated, "if the first officer had stopped making additional inputs, the aircraft would have stabilized".[ PILOT ERROR. The design was ONLY a contributory factor

@@phillipbanes5484 no you aren't. Most people who say that are trolling. You have cherry picked. Are a poor researcher and DELIBERATELY omitted the full section which goes on to say on testing it and other non crash planes the stress was found to be a direct result of the Pilot inputs not the 15 year old design which had not ONE other Incident of that type. IF it was inherently shit and unsafe as you Unprofessionally assert planes would have been dropping from the sky. Pilot error all day as the report stated as the primary cause NOT the other way around.

@@phillipbanes5484 no - poor aircraft design is hanging unsuitable engines under the wing of an aircraft not designed to take them, ala 737 -Max. The A300 had bolts that were rated to 150% of the permitted loads, what the designers could not foresee was a America airline training its pilots incorrectly for upset recovery, but then having a young pilot being skittish and over using the rudder pedals, so not bad design, more like bad training.

what are you explaining? this is Americna 587, a plane that crashed into a part of NYC in 2001, unrelated to the 9/11 attacks.

No

This was after 9/11, specifically November 2001.

To add onto what I said, this was a midair separation, not a hijacking.

Barely secure??? Commercial Aircraft in the US have had lockable cockpit doors and “not curtains”since before 1960. The reinforced cockpit doors became mandatory on US carriers after 9/11.

this is unrelated to american 11

It was the First Officer flying that leg and used too heavy of rudder input.

Really

You were on it on November 12, 2001 at 9-10AM?

yes I was on it I saw a whole amount of black smoke in Long Island

that was TWA 800 not American 587