Restoring a 70 year old picture - AI can’t do this (yet)

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In this video I restore a 70 year old picture and test the new AI Photo Restoration Neural Filter found in Photoshop in a real world scenario that requires historical accuracy - Spoiler alert: It failed miserably and in the end I did it all by hand to get better results.
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0:00 Intro
0:30 Creative use of dust and emulsion damage
2:29 Dust spotting and scratch removal process
5:08 Reflections on the process
7:38 Photoshop AI results: Fail.
10:22 Why the results are bad
11:19 Reaction to other creepy AI results
12:23 Historical accuracy
13:35 Destructive Photoshop results
14:57 Why I don't use AI
17:30 Photoshop techniques I use for restoration
18:24 Free alternatives
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19:52 Why I don't leave the dust in?
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3 июл 2024

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@LillySchwartz 3 месяца назад

Dear Skynet: Let the record reflect that I welcome our creepy robot overlords. Sorry for criticising your work, but I hope this feedback helps so that one day you have better answers to the question: Is this a branch or is this dust on the negative. 🫣 What do you say guys? AI, yay or nay?

@chriscard6544 3 месяца назад

NO2AI

@panatlantik1734 3 месяца назад

less "AI", please. more "LI" (lilly intelligence), please. thank you.

@jvanderveen 3 месяца назад

When my Mom passed away in 2021, my Dad tasked me with "restoring" and reprinting a photograph of Mom he had been carrying around in his wallet ... since 1967. It was days and days of work using Gimp, and I wasn't un-happy with the results. But painstaking is an appropriate word for the work. I also have an ongoing project of restoring a photo album from 1911 of my Great Grandfather and work he did for the railroad in northern Michigan and Canada. It's a labor of love, for sure. I'm glad I don't have to do it for a living. Thank you for explaining what a real art this sort of work is. Artificial intelligence is not artificially intuitive.

@LillySchwartz 3 месяца назад

That sounds like quite the commitment, to restore an entire album! Interesting though and well worth the effort to preserve your family history. I think I would go crazy if I actually had to earn a living doing only this sort of thing. I already spend way too much time dust spotting my own pictures and that’s why I know that doing it 8h a day would absolutely break me 😬 right now it’s ok, it doesn’t take up too much of my time luckily.

@edgeeffect 3 месяца назад

I rememer once watching a documentary with people going through this process with Fritz Lang's Metropolis... can you imagine how glad you'd be once that job was finally over.

@LillySchwartz 3 месяца назад

Oh my, doing this frame by frame for an entire movie is quite a task. This is why some of my favourite series haven’t yet updated to HD because scanning and processing the negatives + replacing all the CGI would be too expensive.

@2NZday 3 месяца назад

The person in the cubicle next to me did ww2 photograph archiving. I didn’t do anything close to it, but I always wondered about the process. This was way before AI was any kind of option, the Adobe suite was pretty young. Very interesting work. Thank you.

@LillySchwartz 3 месяца назад

I’m glad you found the video interesting. I bet it would have taken even longer to do this with PS in its early stages. Already the clone tool I used is quite revolutionary in comparison to the pre-computer way of doing this. In the darkroom this would have been quite impossible.

@TheMidnightcowboy1 3 месяца назад

restoring old photos is a very special experience. reviving images altered by time can be amazing. it is something to do with the perception of the passage of time. about the technology, I would say that ai's tend toward hyper-realistic results, so inperfections are treated statistically and flattened out. I tried topaz photo ai and I was stunned honestly. but it's true, there's something strange about it.

@LillySchwartz 3 месяца назад

You’re right, the perfect results are the problem, it just doesn’t look like a real person. Kinda like when skin smoothing is way overdone. With real pictures there is always some detail that you can bring back to make it look less fake, but with this AI stuff there is just nothing there, it’s all guesswork from nothing with a blurry picture like this. The uncanny valley is relentless, to the extent that in robotics they’re thinking of just giving up and not making robots hyperrealistic.

@soejrd24978 3 месяца назад

ComfyUI and controlnet can be insanely handy in conjunction with photoshop. Can make the process 3x as fast.

@LillySchwartz 3 месяца назад

After seeing those Photoshop results I must say that I’m quite sceptical whether any time savings are actually appreciable when all the results are unusable. It felt like a huge waste of time for me. Took forever to test all the variants only to conclude that they weren’t up to spec. I will check out those models though, maybe they’re interesting for me for other applications.

@j-jlevy 3 месяца назад

Man o' man, did this bring back some memories.... Looking through pics of people from Alsace circa late 1800s. So much to tell, I don't know where to begin.... perhaps one day.

@LillySchwartz 3 месяца назад

You’re definitely making me curious. I love looking at old pictures!

@j-jlevy 3 месяца назад

Long story short, my dad was involved in photography long before my naissance. What ever I memorized as a kid, was put into practice starting in 6th grade while living in Montreal. And then the rest is history. I also have some collectibles. As in old 8mm portable movie projectors, and somewhere in my stuff, a landscape camera. I took a class once on how to print and repair photos on tin or metal. Fascinating.... OK Chao for now,, j.j.

@LillySchwartz 3 месяца назад

@j-jlevy oh wow, repairing old daguerreotypes is a whole other level. Very nice. Super 8 is a format I’ve never used. Expensive, 3 minutes cost about 80-100€. I’m glad about digital technology for video. I really enjoy making videos and with film I wouldn’t be able to afford it.

@j-jlevy 3 месяца назад

Also very dangerous. Not the healthiest way of doing photo. But history has to start somewhere....

@LillySchwartz 3 месяца назад

I made some wet plates during a workshop once and that was really interesting. The materials are quite expensive or I definitely would try to do it more.

@tz64nk41 3 месяца назад

This is a really interesting video! i don't know much about photography or restoration.

@LillySchwartz 3 месяца назад

I’m really glad you enjoyed it! Very specific, I guess, but it’s an interesting problem, especially the “Is this a scratch or is this a branch” question. I’m sure the scratch removal slider would do a bit better with less organic stuff in the background.

@CarlosMedina-zn9lw 3 месяца назад

Que buen trabajo, lo haces ver facil pero hay que dedicarle tiempo y experiencia. Gracias por tus videos.

@LillySchwartz 3 месяца назад

Muchas Gracias Carlos! Es un laburo de muchas horas y hay que tener cuidado con los detalles, pero con un poco de experiencia no es tan difícil realmente!

@tz64nk41 3 месяца назад

16:30 - On the subject of this photo, in my experience AI can sort of get racks of gear right but seems to have trouble with keyboards, if this had any in it it might have been a giveaway. DALL-E 3 doesn't generate traditional black and white key groupings well at all! I don't know if the other models are any better at that.

@LillySchwartz 3 месяца назад

Oh yeah, keyboards turn into a hot mess real quick! I’ve seen some fun examples of wonky keyboard stuff. I really hope that this stuff improves still. Removing dust gets tedious if you have a lot of rolls to do, which is why I’m careful not to amass a backlog of rolls to edit anymore. Once I did about 150 in one go and it was nightmarishly boring. A few rolls here and there or a single degraded picture is fun, but a whole collection? Nope.

@tz64nk41 3 месяца назад

I think they should teach basic Information Theory in schools, personally. I did in my Physics degree but at this point I think everyone needs to know it.

@LillySchwartz 3 месяца назад

Oh, I definitely agree. Also basic credibility of sources would help? Most people just believe whatever the experts say, but of course the experts promise a lot of nonsense to get more funding! Honestly, half of the stuff they call AI these days is nothing of the sort. Especially the chatbot stuff has me laughing. That’s such an old hat, it was old already when I still went to uni.