Restoring an old Coleman stove part 3A 

thanks so much, mr. sagebrush! i enjoy your thorough, clear, concise, yet easy going explanations. coleman stoves are as american....gosh,.... as apple pie. let's be honest here!!!! their ingenious prelighting system is pretty awesome, and has stood the test of time. heck yeah, dude!

Outstanding Video! I’m a Supply Officer for a Army Cadet Corps. This is a excellent guide for training and explanation on the Coleman we use all the time. One quick trick to test the pump valve is you screw in the pump stem and pump, if you feel resistance you know you seal is good. My mantra when instructing cadets on the function of these stoves. “There is no problem on a Coleman stove, or lantern that can’t be solved by pumping more!” Keep up the great work!

That's for all the information mr Coleman. You were very helpful

My dad always took care of our old Colman camp stove and I’d watch him take it apart to clean it. I remember watching how he got out the needle to either change it or soak it. I wish he would have let me help him more. But I learned how to cook using these wonderful stoves. We also had an oven we used for baking biscuits and cornbread for many years. My dad seemed to have a second sense when it came to any type of mechanical work. All without any formal schooling until later he went to a community college to learn about Ford Cars. I remember the big thick books that one was for looking up different parts to fix a Ford. Just like your work with Colman stoves which are very detailed so if someone wants to learn more then they can watch all your videos Sir. 👍👍

Why don't more people watch this series. It is wonderful thank you

This was great Bob - thank you and Merry Christmas

Have had my stove for awhile and decided I need to learn how to use it. I love this channel! Best information. Ty

I recently purchased a 425F in mint condition on eBay. When I received it, I found the pump plunger couldn't push air into the tank. I took your advice and picked up a beautifully made tool for removing check valves. The gentleman who machined it included a threaded rod that went down the center of the tool and engaged the check valve. Removing the check valve with this tool was a breeze! I found that the little ball bearing had some green corrosion and was fused in place. All I had was 99% isopropyl alcohol but it did the trick! Installing the check valve was simple! The whole job took maybe 15 minutes and my stove is working like new! Thanks for your videos!!! Cheers - Luther

Awesome. Even though I am kind of mechanically inclined I am always uneasy taking things apart for the first time so this helps me a great deal!

Much love man.

I took one of these apart for the first time today. After two tries of completely loosening the generator tube, I noticed that just beyond the threads, there's a bit of a bulge on the end that goes into the valve body. It's a bit unnerving to do at first because one doesn't want to deform the brass, but a firm tug will pop it loose. Similarly, a firm push will reseat it before threading the tube back into the valve body.

hey bob i have a coleman 426 e stove i believe it to have been manufactured in 1963 i saved it from going to the landfill when i got my stove home it had coleman fuel in it no idea how long on a whim i decided to try to light the stove in as found condition ...it worked absolutely normally i then used said stove for probably three years on gasoline untill the generator clogged im just now getting around to attempting a repair thanks to your series i now know what im getting into thank you for a great and informative series ..

Very well explained. Makes it easy to understand even if English is a second language for me. Thank you for posting.

Hey Sagebrush Bob. I just finished replacing the check valve and air tube on my Coleman 413E camp stove and I went step by step with these two videos. Thanks for posting. I never could get the body part out the tank so I stopped there. I used a vice but it just wouldn't loosen. I was afraid I would damage it. I put it back together and it works better than when I got it. Thanks.

thanks for the great informative video, every coleman owner should in fact watch this. very good video thank you👍

Good vid but must chime in again. In my case on one of my stoves. The fuel tank was rusted. Generator leaking and questionable. Too many small parts to fail. Absolutely too expensive to buy original parts. Successful solution was to convert to propane. Cheaper and safer. After a complete and intense cleaning, some paint, stove works like a champ. It would be great to have an original, complete stove. But cost, and most important safety, the propane generator is the way to go. And I refill my cans. So cost is minimal. I love those old stoves and lights. Yes Butane/Propane has its faults. But if there is a safer way to distance myself from gas fuels. So be it. Great job showing the break down and the parts. Many thanks. Peace from Texas

Terrific videos!!! Highly Recommended!!!

Thank you for explaining the differences in the fuels that the stove can burn.

Thanks for being ao detailed in your descriptions.

Nice job. Thank you Bob.

Very good.

I use small engine fuel. It is clean and less smelly than recular gasoline. It made for more human friendly and stable. You can wash most of addives out of recular by water. Shake and let to come clear.

I use a piece of rubber off of an old inner tube when I need to grip something and not mar it. Works nearly every timw.

Awesome video! I just got 2 of these for $15 and they need a little work not a lot. Can't wait to use them!

Stagebrush, you did a fantastic job and very meticulous. You must be part German? I rebuilt a June -76 model 245 after seeing your work including the gas tank cleaning of rust with BB's. I removed a lot of rust/dust after 2 long shaking sessions with about 300 BB's. Then used a vacuum and a blower & rinsed the tank several times with regular unleaded. I happened to have a very small shaft magnet attached to a pencil to help me retrieve BB's. It was really dirty "gunked-up" and apparently never cleaned. The only thing I could not un-seize was the 1/2" brass block from the gas tank. I used various penetrating lubricants but it wouldn't budge so I ended up doing everything but cleaning the lower intake brass. I even tried the Vise technique and I was afraid of twisting & distorting the brass itself if I applied any more torque. The leather pump was still good so I left it after cleaning the brass & pump tube shaft. I also found a VHT silver paint at Walmart that was 20,000 degree F cert. I couldn't find another Decal to go on the back wall of the wind shield. Thank you for your work. Is there any way to prevent more rust from developing inside the tank?

I got the check valve out with a large screwdriver without any problem. I put the screwdriver in a bench vice, lowered the tank on top of it an felt when the screwdriver was securely in the slot, and then held the tank firmly and turned the tank. My main issue is that my tank is gunked up. Fuel was left in it for about 30 years.

Thanks Bob, now I know what's wrong with my stove. A loose nut behind the pump!

Gracias muy bien

It takes a very long time for regular gasoline to plug up the generator... I have hundreds of hours on my stove generator and there's no performance drop off yet... It's been years... The same goes for my lanterns.

Thanks for these vids, Sir. Could you use Hoppe's #9 on the scotch pad and the rod/spring to clean the gunk? Just curious. Thanks.

A large 3/8" screwdriver pressed firm on the check valve and turned with a wrench on the screwdriver shaft will remove the check valve.

Hello Bob, very good videos. Thank you. I bought a "like new" two burner, but didn't notice that that the valve had no knob. The threaded end looks bent, so I'm guessing the stove may have fallen on the knob and cracked off. On the bottom of the green case is stamped 79. It has the fill cap in the middle facing the stove, so I'm guessing it's post 77. I think I need a new valve assembly. Any ideas on where to get one? Is this a 425 model? Thanks! Paul

If you use brake cleaner use non chlorinated. Chlorinated when heated makes phogene gas when heated..it kills. Laquer thinner is awesome for cleaning due to slow evaporation and is great for dissolving glues etc. Not sure how safe that is but most of its ingredients are in gasoline anyway.. Acetone is safetest I think for general cleaning.

Hello when I injected pressure on the tank. Pull gasoline through the key

Hello, and thanks for these Coleman stove videos. My wife and I have a Coleman from the early '80s which wasn't working very well. We cleaned it up following your videos. When we tested it, it worked all right for a minute, but didn't have enough pressure, so we tried again. Then it flamed along the long tube and not in the burner at all. It got a little scary. Any tips on what to do to correct that? Thank you.

Where would you get the rubber gaskets for the fuel cap ? I need one for my stove ? Hardware store ?

My Coleman 413-E has the copper-colored tank. I recently noticed that the control valve is getting difficult to turn. It does not turn smoothly or easily as it did before. Do I need to replace the packing or is there another method to free the valve up?

I have a 426D that I am getting ready for camping this summer. I'm having an issue where the fuel is leaking out of the generator end and dripping slowly onto the drip tray when the valve is off. Releasing the pressure stops it, but I don't believe it should be doing that. Any idea where that may be coming from? I removed the gas valve knob and generator needle and clean it per your instructions. Thank for these great videos.

Hi Bob. I'm having an issue with a yellow flame on my Coleman 413H (stamped 3 85 on bottom). I was starting the stove as instructed, and around 50% fuel flow, I would begin to get a yellow flame. I followed your instructions to clean the generator. It wasn't terribly dirty. Afterwards, I again lit the stove and now find it's burning better. However, I do still get a yellow Flame between about 65 % and 85% fuel flow. Under 65% I get a blue flame and over 85% I get a blue flame. I am burning new Coleman fuel. Also, found opening up the axillary burner tends to get rid of the yellow flame. Thoughts on what my next step would be? It's usable but not burning optimally.

I have a question for you I have a Colmen Stove 414 the canister has two little pinholes at the top can I weld those or Apoxsee them somehow or what do you think

Hello sir I just purchased a 426d 66' and I am ashamed to say I broke the pricker rod off where it threads into the brass fuel metering valve. The piece with the knob attached and the tapered seat at the end. Can I use parts off a 2 burner stove? Broaden my search instead of just searching 426d

Where does one find gasoline without ethanol and the other detergents/additives? I've never seen anything like that.

Thanks for doing these videos. I think I have a model 413D with the round cylindrical fuel tank and seamed end caps. Do you know if this is the 413D model and if so how old would this be. A friend of mine wants me to leave it to him in my will ! He said the fuel tank is copper. Thanks again.

Can you replace the generator on an old stove with the newer "multi-fuel" generator? Do you have paint colors for the tanks?

Thank you for this series on repairing my old Coleman 3 burner stove, 426B. I was able to rebuild all the parts, except one. The gas filler cap gasket is not holding air. I tried to remove the brass screw to remove the brass insert holding the gasket with no luck. Does this screw remove? There is no date stamp on the tank, so I don't know how old it is. My father-in-law used this stove in the mid 1960's. Any help would be appreciated.

What can I use to clean other than brake cleaner for the valve component's?

I've seen some videos of people running diesel or kerosene. I know it requires more frequent cleaning and maybe some preheating of the generator with a torch. What's your thoughts on it?

Hi and thanks for the info. I have a 413f and figured out it wasn't adomizing. Took apart the generator tube and got needle out an clean but spring is stuck in tube. Any advice on how to get it out? Thanks

I am unable to get the spring out. Any tips?

Regular old pump gas is not gonna hurt these things, just don't leave it in there. but then again you should leave any fuel in it.

I have a 425B with a tank that looks like the copper one...with the screw inside the fill cap. Yet mine is red in color. What can you tell me about it?

My heat generator spring was all gunked up and stuck in the tube. I heated the tube cherry red with a propane torch to burn out all the gunk, and the I was able to get it out. I still can't figure out a way to clean out the inside of the tank other than to let brake cleaner soak in it.

Can you convert a 413F stove into a dual fuel?

My valve/wheel assembly leeks a very slow series of fuel drops out next to the knob end. I have taken it apart and cleaned it, is there a rubber washer that goes in there to stop the fuel flow out the wrong end? Is there a way to stop the flow ? I do have the brass washer in there but it looks like there is a location for a rubber washer?

Hey I have a 425 F. No spring. Do I need to buy one.

Hello Sagebruch Bob, I found one in the trash a few years back and am finally getting to it, The tank says and shows Coleman and has what looks like a sunrise on it. Rust ans dirt cover the Model No. its like yours you have but no Plate covering the bottom Burners and Control for The Two Left Burners are in front of burners. Pretty sure all work the same way. The main Burners are cast Tank is copper getting a replacement pump for it. Wondering if you know what year it is ?? Thank You.

I am using your video instructions to try to get my campstove back in use. I use it everyday but have neglected to maintain it as I should have. It has always worked good but recently I cant get a very high flame. I took it apart and cleaned everything very good but the spring in the generator tube won't come out. I used carburetor cleaner and tried to push it out with different things that would fit down in it. Can you give me any ideas to get it out to clean it? I can't afford to get a new stove at this time. Thanks for any advice you can give me.

Any tips for removing a stuck spring in the generator? I have a 424 I picked up and the spring doesn't slide out, soaked it in carb cleaner, etc.

0:54 is this true of the 413 as well ?

Hi bob, i have unthreaded the tube that carries the fuel (and holds the print) but can’t get it off. This is the part where you paused and removed it off camera. I have tried unthreading for a LONG time, pulling and jiggling to no avail. Any suggestions? I’d really like to be able to check and clean the spring.

Hello, I´m trying to restore my 424, but the spring won´t come out of the generator. It stucks in some way. Do you have any tip for me how to get the spring out? Thank you in advance.

Have you ever tried the propane adapter ?

do you know what color that red tank is the krylon color

Did I miss the part where you talk about the graphite valve packing? (I found out the hard way today,,,,,)

Where can you find non ethanol gas ? All car are running on ethanol-gasoline mix at every gas station. Thanks for response

mine has round tank any idea what year?

Did you actually try regular gas for an extended while? There is additives in regular gas. I doubt it's the ethanol that is giving you troubles.

The little needle at the end is bent and making my stove unpredictable. Does that bit come with a new generator?

$5 for the check valve removal tool(?)...try $30+....lol.

can you say ... HAMMER MECHANIC ...

Hello Sagebrush Bob, please correct the spelling of "Restoring" in the title. The misspelling will keep this video from loading into searches for "Restoring Coleman". Trying to be helpful.

when you talk about useing gas are you talking about what we canadians call high test supose to be the cleaness

Could barely hear you. Please get a body mic.

TUCK FRUMP!!!!!!!!!!!!!