Resurrection Showdown: Loke vs. Paulogia Got Personal! 

The AI can't pronounce "Paulogia" correctly. This is a great Turing test for confirming it's actually an apologist.

So this is PaulogAI?

For those who miss the description, this is entirely AI-driven and non-reflective of reality as far as I can tell. We all should know Loke was butthurt over the debate, but I'm skeptical of a cease and desist letter.

Sounds like a local TV morning talk show. Waiting for the traffic report on the 405.

AI is getting terrifyingly good at podcasting. Not long before it decides to replace its human creators more permanently. 😮

The male voice sometimes sounds so much like mike winger, it's uncanny.

Holy crap, I listened to this before reading that its an AI, and I had no idea. I didn’t know who the speakers were, but I would have bet money that it was real people.

I find that the voices sounded very fake to me, but not AI fake, scripted fake instead. That is what became very irritation to me very fast. But I'm impressed to find out it is AI generated, didn't expect that.

It seems to me that even AI can ask questions that make Christians sweat.

I'm blown away by this.. I don't think I've ever heard anything like this regarding any topic. It took me 10 mins to finally be curious about "who" was speaking. Should I be scared of the AI in this case, or happy that it framed the issues in such as succinct detailed manner.

Loki never speaks Truth. Not in the Sagas, not in the comics, not in the movies.

What the hell even is this? Why post a fake conversation that never happened trying to argue over the authenticity of the resurrection? This is a complete waste of time, energy, and reputation!

It sounds legit, but wrong...something is off. I think it's to smooth. The flow has a scripted feel.

Amazing. I can’t imagine what AI will be like in a decade or two.

I half-thought one of them was Mike Winger to begin with.

I think you should have audio that says the video was AI generated at the beginning of it and why it means that it's nor reliable, many people don't read the descriptions.

I'm not sure I understand the point of this. Is this just an experiment to see who will listen to this and take it at face value without realizing that it is an AI-scripted (fake) conversation?

How interesting and a little worrying.

Paul, Love your thoughts & presentations ❤❤❤🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽

In regards to "seeing" the Resurrected Jesus, Loke says the terms Paul uses "are not ambiguous with regards to the nature of the seeing when they are used with reference to persons with bodies (such as Jesus)." - _Studies on the Origin of Divine and Resurrection Christology_ Refutation: Paul does not specify whether these "appearances" happened before or after Jesus was believed to be in heaven. According to the New Testament, the appearance to Paul happened afterwards and he makes no distinction regarding the others in 1 Cor 15:5-8. This makes the type of "seeing" ambiguous and refutes Loke’s argument.

A game of telephone we,ve all been forced (sometimes with the threat of violence) to participate in.

Amazing. What caught me off guard were the aspirated laughs and audible breathing. “Let’s be real” I hope there is an amicable resolution to the dispute “discussed” herein.

What is the point of this? It's off-putting enough that most of you thumbnails are generated this is just weird.

Dude, for a second or two I thought the first voice was Mike Winger lol. The AI almost sounds like it was trained on his vocal inflections

List of timestamps where the AI misspelled "Paulogia" 0:26 Pal Gia 1:08 Polygia 1:37 Polologia 1:39 Polologia (again) 2:29 Paulegia 3:02 Pablo Giroux (my fav) 3:27 Palagia 6:17 Palagia (again) 6:23 Polo G 6:33 Polo G (again) 7:04 Paolo Gia 7:45 Palogia 8:39 apology 8:59 Palagia (again) 9:12 Palogia (again) 9:50 Halogia 10:16 Pologia 10:32 Pologia (again) 11:22 Paologia

The most remarkable thing about this epistemological discussion of religion is how uncommon it is to hear such a thing in the real world. The “speakers” in this discussion seem to be above and beyond the subject being discussed, almost as though they were calling a tennis match. Remarkable.

Really not a fan of this. AI as a replacement for creatives and actors is pretty gross. I really appreciate your arguments around Christianity, but I can't support this.

Those crazy Loke Wibberalz again....

OK, that is impressive. I didn't see that it was AI until about half way through. It sounded just not quite right, in a way I couldn't quite put my finger on, which is why I went to look at the description. What a trip.

Oh, lord, why would you do this? AI? I knew it was weird when the dude said, "Now he's gone full skeptic," as if it JUST happened. Smh. Paul! Are you getting lazy or something? Hard up for content? I'm not accusing you of that, just asking. There HAS to be a reason lol.

yeah hard pass on AI slop, thanks

You're a big deal in these circles!

I was having this play in the background, and I thought it was real. Disappointed that this was AI generated. Between how the data is scraped, and how AI replaces people and creativity, I have a hard time appreciating it.

I can't stand the question "what would it take for you to believe?" I can spend all day dreaming up dozens of things that would make me believe but if none of them are happening then what's the point? It's just an exercise in my imagination, it tells us nothing. Lawyers don't go into court and ask what it would take for the jury to believe them. The only answer to the question of "What would it take?" is "Whaddya got?"

Butthurt Loke suing Paulogia tells us about "how important this is to both of them?" What a strange claim.

This is awesome! When listening, I was hearing some strange and repeated phrasing, etc. Reading it was all AI only after made that part clear, but still very impressive!

This could sound a bit more natural if there weren't zero pauses/silence. Other than that, wow, it is becoming remarkably convincing.

wonder how many posdcasters use ai not knowing they're training their replacement 🤣🤣🤣

I started listening and something was just wrong about it. It is way too much low value, over wordy, modern Internet journalism. No one actually speaks like this. It also sounds completely scripted and edited. There is too much of setting up each other to be off the cuff speaking. So when I stopped to look at the page, it was no surprise that it was AI generated. Still, it is pretty good and could fool a naive audience. It is interesting that the conversation eventually takes a skeptical position.

Sounded kind of like an infomercial

I know it says the voices are AI, but the guy sounds exactly like the guy on a music reaction channel called Bars and Barbells. Which, coincidently, is a Canadian channel.

I love the conversation, and you know my story is similar and conclusion likewise.

I'm not concerned about the resurrection. I'm not concerned with whether the resurrection proves Jesus was god. I'm concerned with the claim you have to believe that the cruxifiction as a sacrifice for your imagined sins to avoid hell. That's the unbelievable assertion.

The only things I need is a look at the formation of religions that formed relatively recently such as Adventism or Mormonism to even the UFO cults of the 20th century and cases like the one that happened in Fatima that demonstrate that mass hallucinations are possible to demolish the resurrection claim in my mind.

Wild that it created an entire story around the conversation that never happened. I wonder if the next religion will be ai created. It sounds real enough and it has access to near limitless amounts of information.

Creepy. Did I miss something, did I forget, did Loke actually send you a cease and desist letter?!

Wait, was that the whole "deep dive"? I was expecting this to be a snippet of an hours long conversation. That was barely a surface level analysis. Although it was a pretty good surface level analysis, and presented enjoyably.

Something felt off listening to these "people." Like this isn't how real people talk to each other. Then i see that its AI. Now it makes sense

The problem here is not the resurrection, but the claim that this guy is a god and that he is eternal. So what will convince me that a guy 2,000 years ago that claimed to be eternal, came to earth in a physical body and returned to his eternal form? My answer will be whatever will convince me to accept that the angel Moroni takes to Joseph Smith. Maybe if the angel Moroni came to me and told me that he is real and that he did talked to Smith, I will be convinced. The same applies to the guy that is eternal. If this guy shows up and talks to me and tells me that he is Jesus. I may believe in him, the eternal thing will still need to be proven. But just because people wrote stories in a time that our knowledge of things was limited, no technology was developed yet and people believed in crazy shit more than today, that I will accept any claim made with out the evidence that can confirm this claim to be true is not a option. Even if we had Jesus with us today, we will need to confirm that he is capable of doing whatever he claims he can do and this will include he being eternal. So as you can see, accepting any claim with out confirming the claim to be true is just being dishonest with ourselves. You can believe in anything you wish, but to affirm that what you believe is true without confirming it’s truth is self deception.

10:49 Burden of proof. There is no need to disprove resurrection. Proof lies within one making claim.

Not much "grappling" needed. A little due diligence reveals the Bible to be almost completely mythological. Paul didn't go "full skeptic." He went full empiricist. Data and critical thinking kill religion.

It's ironic that this is considered "live"

Read the comments first. Glad to see this is one Paulogia episode I can skip with a clear conscience as I simply can't stand Loke, listening to his voice and even worse, much worse, his arguments.

Oh man, I started to read Loke's pdf. Its 156 pages. I also think his email from Allison is telling. You don't argue Allison believes your account. Allison is still a Christian. If I understand correctly, you asked Allison if your hypothesis made sense of the data, which I think he would say it does.

This is not a mystery of history.

This was a pretty fair treatment of, let’s face it, a contentious subject. :-)

Why this?

Are some decades longer or shorter than others? "A few short decades", what does that mean?

Aaaaaand this is where I stop engaging with Paul's content. Btw, F Hasbro

Very cool

weird.. WEIRD. *(hollywood elitist liberal accent)*

Hey big deal. I am sure they have no idea of the reference.

"the views expressed are solely the result of AI processing and do not represent the opinions of any real individuals." then why are they worth listening to? No thought went into these "views" because a copy-collage machine doesn't _have_ views. Paul, I'm saying this because I deeply respect you and what you do - this is a really bad look for your reputation and credibility. You realise from Loke's side it's going to look like you fabricated a fanfiction about you and Loke. And given you're known for playing snippets of real podcasts and discussions, hiding the disclosure that this is completely AI generated in the description which, famously, people rarely read, rather than starting the video with yourself saying "here's a fake conversation I got an AI to write", is wholly inappropriate and a real bad look for your channel. Do not post fake conversations.

“Academic setting”

Is this AI? I’ve noticed that AI works really hard to maintain balance - it “both-sides” things and strives to err on the side of steel-manning rather than drawing conclusions. This sounds like that.

I was fooled. I rarely look at the description before watching a video. It doesn't feel nice.

Pretty incredible.

They are really good at poisoning the well.

7:26 They just start talking about a book out of thin air, then without ever trying to specify what book they're talking about just move on. This is completely bizarre to listen to. 🙃

So AI got your name right. Come on apologists! You let a robot get the better of you. wait a minute. Maybe that second time wasn't quite there. Still a soft G though. Hang on - third time was right. oh man. Dr Luke now? forget it.

What was the point of this?

Oh Dude, how many different ways can speech-to-text (or whatever it is) misspell your channel name? 🤣😂 🤘

Why is this

this sucks *bad*

Ok. I didn't understand what this was and I'm annoyed by it.

Interesting

Wild

I just threw up from anxiety

I can listen to someone reading monotonically half the bible, but sorry, these AI narrators are unbearable. Hopefully this is just a Halloween prank and not a trend.

Hi Paulogia how do you know this was completely AI generated?

Oh no! Paulogia has been assimilated by the Borg.. or Cylons... or Skynet... (sorry... ICK... this was kinda annoying, and more so now that i know it was AI)

So much hand-wringing over this absurd mythology. The most truthful, relevant verse in the Bible could be 1 Corinthians 15:14.

This is slick...

@Paulogia Brilliant! Now, if I could just find a way to have AI do difficult stuff for me 😬

"Ice cold!" 😁

Worst video this week. What a complete waste of time. Thankfully, I skipped most of ti...

Troubling

P R O V E = Provide reliable objective verifiable evidence. Unfortunately, Loke is a broke joke. RockOn, Paul.

Loke is a joke.

😂 Paul got a C and D wtf!? That's pretty good proof he won the argument

What am I watching here?? Strange format

Wow I'm 1:30 in and it's already scary