There is certainly an eerie and emotional feeling in this especially when remembering that Taldeer didn't have to die on Kronus. When the Eldar fled after being beaten back she chose to await her fate instead of going with them.
+Damocles178 Mostly because she felt it was her fault that her kin perished therefore she chose to sacrifice herself so that she would take their pain and burdens. This is why she is easily my favorite.
Yes because, and I know people like you struggle to accept how this is even possible, not every story in 40k from every faction in 40k is about what Space Marines are doing. Heresy, Blam etc etc etc. Don't worry I understand. There there.
The Eldar's problem is that they get so caught up in prophecies and talking in riddles that they fail to see what's directly in front of them, and miss easy, obvious solutions to problems. How many times have two Eldar forces ended up fighting and slaughtering each other when they could have taken five minutes to sit the fuck down and compare notes? Literally all the guys Kayleth and crew killed before the Exterminatus had to say was "We're blocking the human exterminatus fleet from entering the system, please don't fuck it up or they'll destroy the planet and the hidden craftworld and all the souls there with it"
+Hyper Then why did she get so defensive when Captain Bloodflag asked for her hat when they were making a deal for a temporary alliance? She may not need he hat, but she certainly wanted it and for humans that feeling is enough to warrant feelings of necessity.
@@Beretta249 Yeah, it's like survival and priorizing the interests of one's own genetic lineage has been the main drive and only known succesful strategy of evolution and all life for the last 3.5 billion years or something...
@@randomrealistictone2231 I agree with arrogance only with Kaylteth but not with Ronath. He is brother of his dead sister Taldeer, but Kayleth give it a shit. I did not liked her. Its good unit but what she is saying is cheeky, because he doesn't even see into her mouth and speaks arrogant bullshits .
@@fulcrum2951 If I would be your average inquisitor I would have you purged. But luckily for you I am not. There's more sane inquisitors then there are sane rogue traders.
@@fulcrum2951 So be careful what you say citizen, because I am not like most of the Inquisiton. But I understand why you said that, my organisation has quite a bad reputation.
Say what you want about the Eldar, but they could have easily murdered Adrastia here for 'supposedly' betraying them. Yet, instead of being the murderous assholes they are often portrayed as being, kayleth, in a rare display of decency allowed her to leave. Understandably the Eldar were upset, but Rohnan knew they were rescuing Taldeer's soulstone, he never much questioned Adrastia's methids but rather the efficiency and past methods of his own kin. In effort to break the crumbling relations between the autarch and the pathfinder whom she looks down upon constantly, the Warlock steps forward to shed light on their true purpose for this seemingly hopeless quest. Yeah, they are assholes, yeah, they often can't be trusted, I get that. But when your race is on the brink of extinction, pride often becomes all you have left after a fall, broken and damaged as it may be.... And Kayleth's pride was certainly scarred.
To add to this, the mixed emotions of losing not just your lead, not JUST a chance at a brighter future, but also.. well, also witnessing what could be millions of your dead ancestors screaming to the jaws of eternal suffering.. it can make you want to violently strike out at just about anyone. Kayleth, like you said, could have EASILY slain Adrastia then and there. It must've taken unfathomable control to not just leap and slice, rip and tear, etc. Same with Ronahn.
Hectorious Thule Exactly. This was, while not the best writing for the eldar, still a ways up there. It portrays very well the inner turmoil of a race that has no choice but to do what is necessary to survive.
I am late here but it's not like the Imperium is innocent either, even if the eldar where less arrogant the "kill all alien's" rule set by the emperor has also played a part in hampering human-alien relationships
And yet we never hear anything about how the Grey Knights chased a demon into unoccupied space, found it aboard the derelict Malan'tai craftworld, slew the demon and called tge eldar to allow them to recover their soulstones peacefully. And the Farseer asked forgiveness for jumping to conclusions about the presence of astartes.
40k never misses a chance to shit on the Sisters and getting to do that while bolstering the Grey Knights? The Sisters should feel lucky their literal bones weren't used as weapons by the GK in the process.
I see the problem of communication... at least the warlock there must knew humanity not feel emotions as the eldar feel. Second, inquisitor must understand eldar loves their spirit stones and soul so much (Only Dark eldar are the exception)
Well, the problem is Eldar are taught to repress their emotions, desires, etc lest another Slaanesh-like incident occur. As this is puzzling to humans, it makes sense that the Eldar feel what humans do, but to a much more keen degree. Adrastia's lucky Kayleth didn't just kill her on sight after what had just happened. Now imagine the wider Imperium doesn't know this. Makes it hard to talk to someone who could be holding back a number of things, not to mention truths that could lead to even MORE complications.
most of humanity doesn't even know that chaos, let alone Slaanesh, exist. There's an excellent chance very few within the imperium know that the Eldar are facing extinction because of their hedonistic past.
Kayleth shouting on him like bitch. How this bitch can lead craftworld alaitoc. Veldoran or Elenwe should lead. But Probably Farseer Elnew was founded later and Veldoran was founded knockouted. Simply when not main character I would change her for something else some other units. how u can do with secondary characters.
The cutscenes for the different factions in this game are incredible to say the least. I just wish there was a bigger variety of missions for all the factions instead of the same ones; that's the only problem :)
humans are a young race, eldars not. they can see where arrogance bring them, the consequences in the future and the past but they don't learn, eldars are prisoners of their emotions. autodestructive fucks
rajajonconcon That was the Ancient Eldar not the Craftworlds. The Craftworlds knew that shit was gonna go down if they didn’t keep themselves in check. Know one listened to them, so they decided to leave, that’s why they’re the only ones besides the Dark Eldar who survived. The Dark Eldar are the ones you should be shit talking. The Craftworld Eldar suffer for the mistakes that others made
This is one of the reasons why the Dawn of War 2 series is so GOOD. We get so real life like characters, and we get to truly care about them in the end. Let's remember we are talking about 40K where everyone is a douchebag, the fact Relic made this is awesome.
@tahuking9445 Farseer Taldeer, as leader of Ulthwe, knew the location of many Necron tomb worlds. When she died on Kronus, it was assumed that knowledge died with her- however, her consciousness was preserved in her Soul Stone, which Kyras took as his own. The Eldar in Retribution are now going after Kyras to get that Soul Stone- and thus, Taldeer- back, so she can give them the information about the Tomb Worlds. The fact that they are saving the sub-sector in the process is just an extra bonus.
Well, you can't blame Eldar for being treacherous and cruel towards everyone around them, if the entire galaxy wants them dead. They are, however, the only faction at large that remembers not only how they were wronged, but also the kindness they receive.
In a way, the Eldar are automatically MORE relatable than most human factions. Imperial Guard and Space Marines and such are zealot assholes or war-hardened bitter veterans or super-mega-ultra-wonder soldiers who are also both previous things. The Eldar are just self-important, and interested above anything else in the preservation of their own people. Selfishness is easier to relate to than any of the primary traits of the human factions.
@Pyre Man thats my opinion! At least somebody said "Imperial Guard and Space Marines and such are zealot assholes war-hardened bitter veterans or super-mega-ultra-wonder soldiers who are also both previous things." Thas my world man!. ANit not only me who has same opinion as you. You have my respect.
Its the space marines I don't relate with, its the guard. Its the essence of doing your duty even if it cost all. Bearing arms, probably losing your own just to protect the souls you love, back home.
Would you do any different, to save your own people, and to let die those that would kill more of yours? Survival is not evil, survival is not selfish, it's preservation that is basic nature of all living creatures.
Even in the midst of hatred, malice and anger, xenos find rationality in understanding and listening to the words of a loyal servant of the Emperor. I find it very odd in so many ways. But just like how the Imperial Creed says it, "the Emperor protects". As shown here, the Emperor protects all, especially to those who are not his children. Be grateful servants of Craftworlds and Ethereals, for the Emperor shall always look upon us with equality. Even if we are different.
There's a big ass problem with Prophecies. If you only see a single point of the future, you can not change it. It's impossible, because everything you do will lead to this future. But if you see HOW you get to that future, well then you can actually change fate. The Eldar are a dieing race, because they trust to much in prophecies and Visions, of single points in time, they work tirelessly to prevent it, but always find what they fear at the End. Look at this Cutscene. They followed the Prophecy to the letter, and only found doom. Only after the most critical piece of information was revealed, and after the Inquisitor mocked them, calling them a doomed Race, the Prophecy became as clear as the cloudless sky. And only then could they, partly, change fate.
If DOW3 somehow acknowledged a big ending that mixes most of Retribution's endings, we might get to see Taldeer in the Eldar campaign as that Wraith-Walker thingy, now if only Davian Thule would return as well in DOW 3 in his Dreadnaught glory.
Eldar can literally jump the width of the Galaxy in a very short time using the Webway, so long as the planet they want to go to has one or several portals to link with their Craftworld. That's why Eldar production buildings in DoW1 and 2 are all essentially hulls for portals, if you look closely.
Sturn: ELDAR! The Cadian 201st have faced doom before. We bested it then and we shall do so today! Die well. Adrastia: Your race is damned in any case. Die Well, Eldar. Me: Dudes, get the hint. The Universe don't want you.
TBF GW has spent literally decades making sure everyone knows there is only one legitimate, meaningful perspective on anything and that's the Space Nazi one. It's not entirely their fault they do that; they're followers, they're the flock. They've always done what a Fuhrer tells them.
its mentioned in the dark crusade eldar campaign intro. They couldnt do that, so the warhost went on taldeer's ship "the vision of liliath'', hid it near the system, and then linked the ship to the portals on kronus.
I'm curious to know what exactly happened before this scene. I have not played the game as RTS's ain't my cup of tea, but i'm interest alot in the lore of this masterpiece of a sci-fi fiction and more so on eldar-imperium relations which i know is full of arrogance despite greater common threats. It felt like the inquisitor was held accountable by those eldar for something i do not know and i'd like to know the reason.
marian florin They are holding the inquisitor accountable because the bargain they had with her failed. The sector was supposed to be subjected to Exterminatus, complete and utter destruction of all life on its planets. They agreed with her that should Kyras, the Chapter Master of the Blood Ravens, who is responsible for the sector's state be killed, she will call off the Exterminatus fleet. The main reason the Eldar wanted that was because of a Craftworld, full of Soulstones, kind of soul preservers, buried under the planet Typhon. The Extrminatus commenced earlier despite the agreement between them, striking precisely the planet they wished to save, destroying the Craftworld in the process. Geez, that was long.
I love that scene. All the arrogance and power of my kin...break, shattered, only to show the reality : The Damned will not win this war without countless sacrifice. And then, it return, showing the determination of our dying race. The Unending War will count of Eldar for a long time again. And it will be my pleasure to led my brother's and sister's against the forces of the Immortal Ennemy.
Mine de rien, même s'il est clair que DoW3 à un gros problème d'équilibrage qui rend les combats trop expéditifs on dirai bien qu'ils ont au moins convenablement suivit l'intrigue eldar avec le retour de taldeer sous une nouvelle forme bien plus puissante ( celle d'un chevalier fantôme ) et le fait qu'à la fin de la campagne on voit que le prochain ennemi sera un nécron, se pourrait il que l'extension de DoW3 soit basée sur l'accomplissement de cette prophétie de DoW2 ? ça serait énorme :)
@TraySamurai right so the Eldar go into soul stones when they die because if they don't their souls get eaten by one of the chaos gods to get tortured for all eternity?
@WarPig935 agree. i wonder what happened? we saw in the behind the scenes for the voice actors, that they had a VA for the farseer. maybe her lines got lost? or something
This make a lot of sense about DoW3 story, in that one not only taldeer ( as a spirit ) make her return but at the end of DoW3 we can see the sequel is suppose to be against necrons, maybe an story based on the protection of ulthwé against the necrontyr ? if they can balance more their game it would be awesome !
Iyanden had been utterly fucked over by the Tyranids before Dark Crusade, and then almost immediately afterwards by the Orks. It was only the intervention of the Corsair Fleets,then the intervention of the Dark Eldar that prevented Iyanden from being destroyed. They are in no position to stop the Necrons. Besides, Ulthwe along with the other Craftworlds have access to the Webway, which makes it child's play to traverse the galaxy.
So does /tg/, the good end/epic end theory is that the blood ravens recover Angelos and prevent Exterminatus, while the Eldar take back Taldeers soulstone.
@tahuking9445 Nothing. But if they don't defeat Kyras they will never retrieve Taldeer's Soul Stone and without it they cannot map the precise location of Tomb Worlds near Ulthwe and thus cannot guide the Craftworld away from them or inform them of the locations in order to better mount a defense.
@kane36ful i think eldar is the best campaign of retribution i realy wish that eldar and necrons will be added in the warhammer 40k space marine game or atlist a new necron campaign love the necrons and eldar =)
The unfortunate reality is that it's likely not going to happen until GW quit stopping at their Space Marine worshiping altar every morning before going to work. Space Marines are iconic, and the stuff that sells, evident by some 70%+ of the figures they sell for 40K being SM's. Compared to that Imperial Guard are cannon-fodder, Sisters and Daemon hunters are 'distant allies' and the rest are 'merely' opponents. The icon sells. The rest? Obscure to most buyers. I wish it was not so, but alas...
i find it kinda funny how the eldar seem to have more of a story just to this game than the blood ravens did more emotional more easy to get attatched to those characters
Well she saved them alright when she became a Wraithknight. Pity she couldn't save them from Dawn of War III though; the prophecy did not foresee that. The Eldar path is no longer clear :D I do admit DOW III wasn't a bad game but the only resemblance it bore to the previous games was bringing back familiar faces but for all that it didn't really feel like a proper continuation; the writing just wasn't on par with the previous games either. If they wanted to experiment with MOBA elements; they could have easily called that game something else.
Honestly, if the Eldar are so wise and almost all-knowing, why not stop being so arrogant like the humans and fight for the future. The dead and the damn. Ha! The living are damn and the dead only see the end of the wars.
+bossshun9 that is the curse of the eldar, pride they knowledge is infinite but they are prisoners of their emotion, that why the eldar empire got destroyed
rajajonconcon true. That's the one thing that trips me out about the Eldar. They have enough knowledge but refuses to learn from The Fall that brought about Slanneshi
Its not that simple for the Eldar fam.You say that only the dead see the end of war, but for Eldar the dead suffer a face far far worse than death as their souls are taken by Slaanesh and tortured. Unlike Human souls they remain conscious after death. Secondly, Eldar souls can be used in warmachines to bolster their dwindling population. For Eldar, fighting for the dead is as necessary as fighting for the living.
+lolololololololtoast be that as it may, the damn are the Eldar. A race who must still live knowing that if they could save everyone that they rather save themselves. And yet, for all the knowledge they know, they rarely share it.
"stop being so arrogant like the humans" AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH. The humans in 40k are the DEFINITION of arrogant. Why do idiots keep neglecting that fact? You also realize int he vast majority of cases it is the ELDAR that try to work with the other races, and it's the humans who reject them?
I would think as an Autarch, she has to be perfect in her decision making, her prowess, and be the epitome of Aeldari martial prowess, so even a single mistake would not be taken lightly and one such as her would beat herself up for not "being better"
And yet you have to come here to say that. Because you envy them. Because they're not as a pathetic as you are, not as pathetic as the literally hundreds of comments just like this one in this video alone. "Why do people say I'm an asshole? I only want to murder everyone who represents anything I don't like," that's you, bro.
Hey, old reply I know, but you can feel her sadness. As an Autarch she is expected to be flawless in her prowess and leadership, so a single mistake would have her shook up as she is suppose to be better than that.
eldar are futuristic elves, some people dont bilieve that, notice the guy without a helmet looks like an elf and has elf ears? UMAD HATORZ? UMADUMADUMADUMAD
The Eldar certainly are selfish, but in Warhammer 40K that kind of is a positive trait. The alternative to not caring about others is almost always actively wanting to kill them.
