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The Rainbow '73 show was my first Sabbath gig and it made a huge impression on me. It was like stepping into another world. Vol 4 is still my favourite album by some distance.
Count me out because of the crappy cheap digipaks. The CDs tend to scratch bad in those. At least they could have used the sterdy ones with the plastic tray to hold the CD.
I'm somehat obnoxious about this - but I got rid of hundreds of store bought and mail order CDs when I moved across the country in 2014. I was sure it was a big mistake. I don't miss having all that crap taking up space. CDs were never a format that any aesthetic value - for me. The mastering on so much of it was awful. You get one good sounding CD per every 10. Some are not even listenable. Outside of my own bands' CDs, I saved exactly one - an original MegaForce "Kill 'Em All." :)
Apart from the book, this is another case of "scraping the bottom of the barrel" and selling the same old, same old. And I can't believe they're still trying to allure us with "remaster" no. 27...
I cant argue with u - i feel the same - its also my fave sabbath album - i have live at last on 5 cds / vinyls etc lol - i dont need it again - if it was a concert wed never heard before - id be tempted - some of it is live at last retreads
I'm a huge fan but I can't help but think "money grab" when I see something like this especially if Sharon has anything to do with it. I've owned multiple versions of this album too with the last being the Castle remaster witch I'm super happy with. I mean it's a 50 year old album, how much more material could they dig up from it and considering all the different versions already released (live at last, past lives ect). Honestly, I can't see myself shelling out for it again unless it had completely new rare extra unreleased stuff from the vaults like "The Rebel" or "Song for Jim".
@@frankchase9049 yea the concert on Mob Rules is new, but that's it, it's still the same remaster Andy did from 2010. Heaven and hell only has a few songs from the Hammersmith show, where the 2010 Mob Rules Deluxe edition had the full show. That concert is also from the Live Evil tapes, same leg of the tour, same set list, just a more live "Live Evil".
If there is a flat transfer direct from the analog master I'd be on board. Like Wilson did with some of the Yes albums. But if it's remastered, forget it. The '86 Castle remains the definitive CD pressing, warts and all, sounds identical to the vinyl. On a good audiophile system, remasters are terrible. The older the CD pressing, the better, with the early Japanese CD pressings usually winning the day. I'll skip the digital compression. Analog compression was already applied during the original production process. Additional compression just squashes the entire presentation. Plus it can't be cranked. When you drill down into these classic albums on CD, unless you are listening with computer speakers, remasters are the worst. To purchase old CD pressings, visit Discogs.com. Best site out there for those seeking the truest masterings to the original recordings.
Its between vol4 and master of reality that alternates as my fave BS album. Saw them on that tour at the Rainbow,North London in '73 and of course,it was a full on blast.
I remember from some interviews over the years, interestingly enough, the album title would be simply vol 4 rather than volume 4. Doesn't matter of course, either way it's okay.
Mob Rules, one of my all time favourite albums and favourite Black Sabbath album. Sounds as if this will definitely be worth checking out for me. Thanks for the info.
Yo Pete, I cracked up when you mentioned "how many times in my life have I bought Vol. 4?" because that's exactly the thing that came to my mind when I first read about this new release. Varying quantities each of the vinyl, 8 track, cassette, cd...I couldn't remember! LOL... had to order it as well... ,,\/, ,\/,,
How many of you were born in the (me, the early) 60's, went to tons of concerts in the 70's, read Circus, Cream, RS, etc., listened to hard rock like Kiss and Aerosmith, even BOC / Rush, etc. BUT never bought a Black Sabbath record until in more recent years (me, 2021). I'm a voracious classic rock fan but skipped this band altogether. I bought their first 8 cd's in one fell swoop a month ago, have listened to BS/BS, Paranoid and Vol 4 out of the first 8 over the last week - for the 1st time ever. I had extremely low expectations only knowing the hits played on radio. As you can expect, as you once were if you heard them for the first time in the 70's or 80's, I was floored at the incredible vibes and pleasure I had listening to these - the creativity, the passion, the musicianship, the feeling you were listening to 5 songs in a single song with all the changes, the variation, etc. Well, Vol 4 is easily in my top 3 but I still have 5 cd's to go! And I just bought "13" today because the reviews were very good. Can't wait for Master, Sabbath Bloody, Sabotage and all the others. Thanks to programs like this I'm catching up on Sabbath. Prior to a month ago, I only owned the Heaven / Hell Blu from Radio City which I think is Great.
I know where your coming from I was more into Deep Purple, Grand Funk didn't get into Sabbath till early 78 when someone turned me on to Master of Reality and that just blew my mind, went out a bought their whole catalog and lucked out as Never Say Die! was released later that year and caught the band live even though everybody says Van Halen blew them off the stage that tour I didn't care Sabbath was the reason I went and had a hell of a time, and to stay on topic of Vol.4 I just heard this and its ok if you never had a copy, the outtakes where the only thing I really liked the live stuff has been out there before nothing really new.
Well, I was born in 1961, read those magazines, watched midnight special and Don Kirshner's rock concert and all that but as far as Sabbath… They were my first concert in 1975. Aerosmith opened.
From early days discovering this album, I have also always considered it close to their #1. Although I only own a very small number of box sets, I have to say this one is an interesting one...thx for the review Pete. Food for thought.
Thanks for the review. I just received my package today ! Can't wait to read the book. This is my favorite Sabbath album as well. SUPERNAUT !!!!!!!!!!!!
Just started looking forward. Not my fave. But love enthusiasm. Was at 83. Gillan says this is supernaught. "Oh .. Good. Did they smoke when you seen em? Kinda liked it.. " Bruce fiend takeover artist. Borboning. Later. After shoveling ...
This might be my favourite Black Sabbath album of all time as well (either this or Sabotage). I have to say though, I truly hate the cover (in both cases) and the title (of this). Of course, what matters is the music, though and that's exceptional!
The Steve Wilson remixes Intrigues me. He remastered every Yes Album from The Yes Album to relayer and they sound SUPERB!. But I am loathed to put more money in the pocket of Sharon Osbourne because of the Iron Maiden/egg incident, the wiping of Lee Kerslake and Bob Daisley from the Early Ozzy remasters, turning Ozzy into a joke reality tv star, what she did to Sabbath when Ronnie and Tony Martin was with them and basically being a totally crappy person to everyone. The list goes on. The box set does look impressive though.
I'm a collector and fiend, I've got the vinyl version, and am waiting for the CD version to be delivered. Do you, or Chris, have any idea why they did this for Paranoid and 4, but not the debut or MoR? It just seems odd to skip those two very important records. Vol4 being my favorite(splitting hairs, but still), I'm certainly happy they did this one.
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Just ordered this. Had in in tape as a kid. Then another tape. Then the cd. Then in record. I'd love to hear demos for the next two albums two, with extra cd's of California jam and Don Kirshners rock show.
Watched Derrick and John Heatons reviews on many occasions. Pete your show is by far superior. You not only are knowledgeable, but shine with your sense of humor and speaking voice. The others are just so drab and boring. Keep up the great work!!! Doug D.
Thanks for the great review. My favorite album, too. Would have liked Sabbath Bloody more if the engineering/production had been better, but I love that one, too. Can't wait to hear the alternates!
The original 70s Quadraphonic mix is sooooooooo awesome. I folded it down to a stereo mix and it's my favorite version now. The panning and different Warpigs ending is top notch.
My favorite Ozzy era Sabbbath album also. Btw, I'm also a huge fan of Never Say Die. Give it another chance Pete! It's such an underrated Sabbath album. Hoping to get a Super Deluxe version of that album too.
Sad to see them grow old......but damn they play so young.....they stay so young...they potray such great Gothic rock......they are hands down in History....for all generations....period.
Thank you for showing the Black Sabbath, ‘Vol. 4 ‘ Super Deluxe CD set!! I want this in my collection, too!! Black Sabbath, ‘Vol. 4’ is my favorite !!🎼🎤🎸🎵🥁
Picked this up and it sounds amazing. Not only my favorite Black Sabbath album but Steven Wilson remixing made this a must have for me. Doesn't disappoint!
Problem for me is all that is intriguing until you're actually listening to it and it sounds bad and all you end up listening to is the original album.
Wow at the 125$ price tag, they are gouging heavily on this one. Hopefully it comes down at some point down the road because that price tag for what you get just isn't justifiable for me at this point.
Hi Pete. Just checked price of the Super Deluxe on vinyl. $110. Cool. Except here in South Africa it would set me back R2000 our currency. Not including shipping. Want but can't have dammit. Thanx for the review.
The first time I saw Sabbath was in Mar 1, 1972 Black Sabbath Cumberland County Memorial Arena, Fayetteville, NC - with Wild Turkey and Bang a most memorable night.
A very poor release for the money. The asking price is £70.00 for four CDs and the book. I bought the special edition of Paranoid on CD comprising 2 CDs and the Quad Mix on DVD for £10. Jethro Tull are bringing out a 6 disc set for the album 'A' in April for around £35/£36 and this will include the book too. The set includes the album, out-takes, a live audio concert, the concert on DVD and the Slipstream DVD too.
As david1006 says nothing more as a MONEY GRAB and the biggest MG (Steven Wilson) to be so talented and spend what appears to be his life now remastering old but great albums that most people cant tell the difference. P.S. the best Sabs gig I saw Van Halen blew them away Glasgow Apollo. MAGICAL NIGHT
I respect and I like Porcupine Tree and Steven Wilson. But I prefer remastered versions of Chicago, Black Sabbath and more by other people actually involved in the original recordings or unknown people.
When's the next Led Zeppelin IV deluxe re-remastered edition coming out? I heard it's got some distant recording of Bonham's roadie carrying the gear into the house and then making a sandwich. Nobody says anything. You can just hear guys walking around slamming cases down. Apparently Page restored the tape. And then remastered the EQ on it, bringing out the high end of the guy's squeaking shoes. And put some reverb on it. Clutch! Come on - this deluxe remastering redo stuff is ridiculous. Gone way too far. Move on.
I just ordered mine. though I must confess it ranks in the middle of the Ozzy Osbourne era albums. Probably my 4th with the previous 3 much better. I just can't grasp why some fans love this album so much. Half the songs are great but then it dive bombs down from there with Fx at the bottom. Not even a listenable song to me. Just want the Steven Wilson outakes & the book more. Don't understand why they didn't have Wilson do a remix on the original, would have sounded so much better. And what happened to a Master of Reality Super Deluxe Edition, it was skipped over with just the 2 disc edition from Paranoid to Vol.4, and a much better album.
IMO these "deluxe" sets are more a clearout and cleanout of cutoffs and junk to grab a few quid more than anything else, sure, the album itself is great, but everything else is rather instructive and a bit pointless, half takes and chatter do not excite me to be honest, though I know that many will enjoy this set. But I know from previous sets I have, they get payed perhaps one time, and that's about it.
thanks for this pete! i would really like to hear what the squares all listen to music with. what there systems consist of etc . whether it's a "fancy" set up or not. i think that would be interesting.
Evening pete . I must say I do like a box set .they are very therapeutic and good for the soul althought pricy sometimes. . Looking forward to Jethro tulls A box set. . Just curious what system fo you play back your cds on . I am not a high fi snob but you have invested a lot of money on your passion like me Tim uk
Don’t get me wrong, old Sabbath is great stuff and it is nice physical media survives, but this box does not really include anything new if you don’t count studio banter and false starts? It is like a glorified version of Vol 4 newly mixed and Live at Last with a different track order? I think I and my lo-fi brain will rather save my money for a band that is actually creating something new😄 But all you with hi-fi ears and higher intellect, feel free to buy and enjoy it👍🏻😁
If I am not mistaken the way they are releasing these super deluxe box sets the next one should be Sabotage, correct? What is with that? Where is Black Sabbath and Master of Reality? Did I miss something?
Very special album and the weird muddy sound is very much part of that unique experience. But I'm really looking forward to hearing those Steven Wilson remixes! I hope they do the same with the other Ozzy albums (and take their time getting it right as they did here!) that didn't get 'deluxe editions'. SBS is my favourite so a big box of that (with California Jam maybe?) would be great.
