Review: Eventide Misha // an entirely original improvisation and generative sequencing module

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Other gear in the video:
► Vectorwave from RYK (beta)
► Keystep 37 from Arturia
► Tendrils cables
► Eurorack case by 2ManySynths
► Tetrapad/Tete by Intellijel
► FXAID by Happy Nerding
► 0chd by Divkid and Instruo
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► Desmodus Versio by Noise Engineering
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► HPO by ALM
► The Piano is V2 by Arturia
WHAT'S THE DEAL WITH THE AUDIO OUTPUT?
It wasn't intentional, but I forgot to address the audio output because it doesn't do much as of the current firmware at the time of the review. It outputs a sine wave at the frequency of the main melody. It doesn't play the additional notes if you play chords, and the only waveform is a sine wave. Hopefully, they add more functionality there in a future firmware update!
INTRO SETUP:
A word about the setup in the intro: Misha isn’t connected to Vector Wave directly. For the intro/outro jam, I ran midi out from Misha to my computer so I could render the laser notes shooting out the module, and I then sent Misha’s midi to an arp plugin on my computer, and then finally to Vector Wave via its midi input the front panel.
MISHA vs NDLR
I saw this question come up a lot, instinctively probably because they both have a vertical screen and are sequencers, but that's where the similarities end. NDLR is designed to power four tracks and four instruments (most suitable for bass, pad, two melodies), which all follow the absolute chords you play on the panel (with some rhythmic and melodic arpeggiation). Misha can only sequence one instrument at a time, so it's designed just for a single instrument, and you program melodies in a relative way on it. Misha also lets you perform "relative" melodies live using its keypads or an external keyboard. You can't do that with NDLR. I guess that's the short answer, when you watch both my reviews you'll know everything I do!
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TIMELINE:
0:00 Intro
1:20 Intervals
3:50 Controls
6:15 Modes
6:45 Connectivity
8:25 Chords
10:35 Sequencing
10:55 Tone rows
12:30 Auto play
12:50 Play options
13:30 Button mods
15:40 Tone row as scale
17:10 Temp shift
17:50 Int. sequences
19:45 Misha & MIDI
21:45 Black key maps
23:25 Raga 3 jam
24:10 Scale swaps
24:30 MIDI mapping
25:20 CV mapping
26:00 Presets
27:05 Pros & cons
30:00 Outro
Submit review and video ideas here (sorry I don’t offer 1x1 sessions/setup/purchasing advice):
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@thehomienicked8208 2 года назад

This thing is so cool. Really impressive new idea. Great review and demonstration as always, loopop!

@lunchrevisited 2 года назад

thanks for your relentless pursuit of innovative new synth knowledge

@CinematicLaboratory 2 года назад

Amazing concept - and greatly informative video as always. On my ever expanding wishlist.

@MilesAwayOfficial 2 года назад

Interesting addition to the world of generative sequencers! Great video as always dude.

@mcshafty1 2 года назад

I agree. Interesting module and great vid from loopop- though I imagine it will exponentially add to to the amount of Muzak out there. Perhaps it should be shipped with a health/good taste warning 😂

@gunnarliljas8459 2 года назад

Cool to see a really classic company, Eventide, release something like this.

@G8tr1522 Год назад

I was thinking the same thing. A company known for it's reverb pedals at that.

@andyorr1597 Год назад

@@G8tr1522 if you’re of a certain age, Eventide is actually known for its high end, rack-mount studio effects. Their rack gear was the studio standard for time based effects in the 1970’s. They even made their own RAM. They didn’t make their first stomp box pedal until the 2000’s.

@brique_squadde 2 года назад

Major Silent Shout vibes in that final demo, good stuff!!

@zackcolbourne6921 Год назад

In some ways, this channel is the definitive ode to the different kinds of sequencer available and how each one is as unique of an instrument as any synth.

@rayonism 2 года назад

They needed you at the trade shows this year, the demos of this product were head scratchingly bad. Thanks loopop!

@cecilkeebler4254 2 года назад

Agreed about the sub-standard demos to date, especially for an established company.

@eugenephillips481 2 года назад

Agreed! Other than Steve De Furia’s demo, your video is the best, hands down!

@snoogllies 2 года назад

Right, in the first 60 seconds it made so much sense that none of the superbooth vids

@Dogboy73 Год назад

Very interesting module. I really like the sound of the RYK Vector Synth as well.

@LarsBjerregaard 2 года назад

Highly interesting module. Thanks for the review!

@seoverus7805 2 года назад

So glad I got my NDLR, Ipad with Drambo (& 20 other incredible music apps), Norns, Zoia & MidiHub - Thanks to you !

@stephenspackman5573 2 года назад

That's really fun! I find myself wishing there were a second set of 9 or so keys for-I'll just call them modifiers-so you can set chord structures, pitch ornaments, timing offsets-and if there were three more outputs, additional CV modulations-and so on as macros while you're in direct play mode. So you can build chord/ornament state machines, as it were, as well as tone rows. Or, a similar idea on the keyboard controlled side, it would be nice if you could map the left hand to transposable chord structure (and again, perhaps other modulations) while the right hand does this intra-tone-row craziness. If you see what I mean. Or maybe (in this hypothetical world) you need to go mad and have two modules chained together, one of them a modulation-oriented alternate firmware (albeit with the same logical structure), deviously chained together so they work this out jointly. Anyway, certainly made me think, in a very nice way :).

@ConwayBob 2 года назад

Thanks for an amazing review of a potentially useful new tool.

@lukewarm5356 2 года назад

Interesting one, glad it can run standalone too. Thanks as ever Loopop

@rozzgrey801 2 года назад

But do you need a Eurorack rack with the power supply to run it? It would be great if they made a fully stand alone version.

@OutOfMySystem 2 года назад

@@rozzgrey801 My question too. Some of it's features has things I've always wanted but have zero Eurorack gear and wasn't intending going down that route. Imagine this combined with a Polyend Play

@eugenephillips481 2 года назад

@@rozzgrey801 Yes, you do need the Eurorack AND power. I almost didn’t buy it because of this fact, but I am glad that I did. They are working on a standalone unit. Don’t know when that is coming. However, I do recommend this product.

@reintje58 Год назад

Interresting concept. Thank you.

@eugenephillips481 2 года назад

Thanks for the review. I did purchase Misha and I LOVE it!!! As a pianist, this opens up a whole new world of creative possibilities for me, especially as I trigger the intervals freely as a live musician via my midi keyboard. Could there be cheaper VSTs options as some have mentioned? Maybe. However, I am a fan FIRST of tactile and hands-on musicianship and performance, not just “clicking” with a mouse. I can “program” after the fact. This approach is musical for musicians who play. I am a supporter of this product.

@TonydeKaro 2 года назад

Thanks for the demo!

@rayderrich Год назад

Gives me a NDLR vibe and as that one is never for sale because of shortages this Misha looks interesting (but expensive!). Great video Sir!

@duncan-rmi 2 года назад

I had a trick, back in the 90s, using a custom-tuned piano patch (with only, say, Cm notes) & a boss MPD-1 drum-pad, which you would finger-drum on whilst twirling the note-select knob. we got a lot of mileage out of that! wondering how this stacks up against the NDLR...

@smuskind7872 2 года назад

a new module!!! exciting!:)

@Sashabooboo 2 года назад

0:20 I bought one and I'm sending it back because it doesn't shoot yellow bar lines out the top like the one they sent to loopop!

@loopop 2 года назад

Sorry forgot to mention mine is the special edition!

@LarsBjerregaard 2 года назад

😆

@derekfernandez7701 2 года назад

28:00 Sequence-ception! I love this so much! 💙 Amazing video thank you for all you do!

@bentropy Год назад

Funformative, as usual, Z! - a pleasure to watch/listen/learn I kept expecting that you'd compare it to NDLR in your conclusion, and was kinda surprised you didn't. But then again, I suppose they really have little in common. (i haven't used and can't claim to understand either, beyond having watched your NDLR vids.) Maybe you can do a jam where you combine and set them in opposition, and in the process compare/contrast them. Weirder idea than I even understand, I suspect. thanks again!

@loopop Год назад

Thanks! Yes I think people are comparing it to NDLR because of the vertical screen, but they're two quite different things

@lineoffside Год назад

This module is awesome 💥💥💥🔥🔥🔥

@Tibbon 2 года назад

Intriguing! I'm still only halfway through the listen, but does it do advanced voice leading? Blocky chord movements are kinda... eh

@MichaelRohaly Год назад

That looks great.

@johnwilson5690 2 года назад

very interesting bit of kit

@thibaudkellerhals2938 2 года назад

Does someone know if a max for live device who does thing like this exist ?

@GearAcquisitionSynthdrone 11 дней назад

You said in the Pros & Cons section that Misha is "the only Interval Sequencer in town" but what comes first in my mind is Conductive Labs The NDLR, a Four-track MIDI Interval Sequencer

@loopop 11 дней назад

I think it goes to how you define an interval sequencer - NDLR is great, but does not travel up and down scales in intervals like Misha does; it quantizes sequences to scales and chords as well as a whole bunch of other things, just different

@joesweeney6262 2 года назад

As an avid NDLR user (with expansion via Voltage 2 soft eurorack modules) i am intrigued by this kit. I can see them as being very complementary. Great video! Thank you for the clear explanation and demo.

@joooaomorais 2 года назад

is its presence in this video a sign we’re getting a review of the Vector Waves by RYK?

@peadookie 2 года назад

Man, I really think this, the Euroburo, and the EastBeast would make a super cool 3-module setup.

@celestialgroove3334 2 года назад

Your not wrong.

@alexlubinski7795 2 года назад

With the piano it sounds like a Zelda BOTW soundtrack generator :D

@asmr6773 Год назад

What gear you used for creating the melody of the very first part of this video?? Note: I saw the semi-huge list on the description section. Can you be specific for: Beginning to 1:20

@s4budapest Год назад

Excellent review of an interesting product. May I ask you what case are you using in this video? Thank you

@loopop Год назад

Thanks! It's by @2manysynths FYI you can always check the description for what's in my videos

@thewonderfulw Год назад

This module seems to provide a similar functionality to the sequencer part of the Moog Subharmonicon, if I'm not mistaken? Very interesting!

@johngilbert184 2 года назад

Where does the Midi Map at 20:23 come from? There is no manual so far, and it is not in the Quick Ref doc. Posting a pdf would be very helpful. Thank you, and for the great video as usual!

@EventideAudio 2 года назад

You can find the default MIDI map on page 34 of the user manual here: downloads.eventide.com/audio/manuals/misha/MishaUserGuide.pdf

@adrianmccombe625 2 года назад

I saw the NAMM video on this and it was one of the only things I wanted. I didn't realise it was quite as expensive as what it is. I still want one though.... what to sell, what to sell 🤔

@asmr6773 Год назад

You are like the human encyclopedia of electric hardware

@nsbd90now 2 года назад

Three minutes in and I want one.

@edtotman2952 2 года назад

I used the affiliate link to buy it, thanks! What's the purpose of the jack labeled "audio"?

@loopop 2 года назад

Hey - thanks! Indeed I didn't mention it in the video because it doesn't do much currently - it generates a sine wave but only for the first note of the chord, so, not much for write home about in the current firmware

@andrewverran3498 2 года назад

How good is that.. Would love to see a Behringer RD9 Loopop review...

@okeribok 2 года назад

Is that piano from pianoteq or is it sampled? It sounds nice. I think I need to go and build a performance tool for this in Bram Bos Mozaic and add blackjack and some more stuff.

@loopop 2 года назад

It's Piano V2 from Arturia

@TheArditron 2 года назад

like it! what about VS Conductive Labs The NDLR?

@eugenephillips481 Год назад

I’m back after spending time with the Misha and dissecting your review. Two questions: 1) Will you explain your midi flow out of Misha into that specific Eurorack setup, and 2) what is the name of the Black Eurorack unit to the right of the Misha that has the four red characters on the digital display? I am interested in possibly making purchases and setting up my Misha in a similar manner. Thanks.

@loopop Год назад

everything is explained in the description

@eugenephillips481 Год назад

@@loopop I totally missed that since I didn’t click the description drop down. Thanks!😀

@wolfereeno 2 года назад

Ziv, perhaps you can clarify the signal chain. Is the Misha playing piano samples on your computer or on the Vectorwav? I don't see a midi in on the vector, unless its through the bus or a jumper in the back.

@loopop 2 года назад

Hey yes I actually explained that in the first draft of the video but cut it out because it was getting long and didn’t seem material to the module… Misha isn’t connected to Vector Wave for the bulk of the video. For the intro/outro jam, I ran midi out from Misha to my computer so I could render the notes, and then sent Misha’s midi to an arp plugin on my computer and then to Vector Wave via midi in the front panel.

@jacklinks7554 Год назад

Some of the sounds are fantastic in this demo. But I think like a few others was disappointed to not see use of the CV inputs. For me the whole point of a high end sequencer would be for generative results using multiple clock inputs and other modulation. I see there are inputs so I'm sure it's possible. I'm sure there are other people who are hoping Misha is like Rene but with added flexibility and playability. But ya, piano samples and midi at that point could just be a standalone unit or controller.

@davidjazay9248 2 года назад

For the price tag, I do indeed believe this particular unicorn could be a little sparklier.

@darkpolarmusic Год назад

Great review (and interesting module), but what is the Audio-out jack for?

@loopop Год назад

Thanks! It wasn't intentional, but I forgot to address the audio output because it doesn't do much as of the current firmware at the time of the review. It outputs a sine wave at the frequency of the main melody. It doesn't play the additional notes if you play chords, and the only waveform is a sine wave. Hopefully, they add more functionality there in a future firmware update!

@darkpolarmusic Год назад

@@loopop thanks for clearing that out. I guess they'll update that functionality too 👌🏻

@jupitor919 Год назад

Can you write and play a pop or blues song with Misha?

@turbotambourine Год назад

Such a cool sequencer! Makes it feel like I might just bounce around to different sequencers in the end or maybe have something like a misha and then have something else to just hot swap out if the melodies ever get stale. Thanks for the vid, the thoughtful perspectives and also the teaser for that new RYK module. Loooove the design of that one. It would pair rather nicely with my rample!

@cecilkeebler4254 2 года назад

Just in Time as I received my module over the weekend. The Quick Reference guide is a bit lacking so hopefully they are coming out with a more detailed manual soon. No worries as I use @loopop reviews as ad hoc manuals any way :)

@EventideAudio 2 года назад

Sorry for the delay! You can find the full user manual here -downloads.eventide.com/audio/manuals/misha/MishaUserGuide.pdf

@kaykaleli 2 года назад

Misha Mansoor needs to get on this immediately.

@montxsuz Год назад

Great idea. Perhaps if I didn't have Korg SQ-1 & SQ-64 already. $$$ 🙁 But hey, I think I'll wait for the software version. I have purchased a few other EvenTide pedals as software already. 🙂

@mikelazarev5833 Год назад

To be honest, my only complaint is the amount of HP it takes up for the very little "true" modular integration. It almost feels like this could have been a standalone unit with the CV in/out in the back. Yes, I know that I can probably do that with my own little 4ms Pod, but you get what I'm saying...

@yayharekrishna 2 года назад

Great idea - seems like a bit of an overkill for a Eurorack modules. Know of any VSTs that do this? Any word of Eventide is planning on releasing one?

@virallode 2 года назад

There are endless Max for Live devices - tonerow generators and tools like this

@fisongb 2 года назад

Instascale by WA Productions covers this ground.

@stolencoats63 Год назад

@fisongb perfect! I can use that in Ableton and send the cv to my rack through my Bored Brain OPTX module! Thanks.

@downpatmusic 2 года назад

Interesting concept perhaps applied to ear training. However, this makes you appreciate a great jazz musicians instant playing access to all scales and arpeggios of all types in all keys! While a cool short cut, it might be faster to stick to the traditional keyboard and human brain in executing chromatic western music instantly in all of the keys! Where soloing becomes particularly interesting and good is learning to play the non melodic based pitches while soloing, meaning the non scale tones between the scales notes.

@Skiddoo42 Год назад

Excellent comment. I wonder if the real magic isn't in the possibilities of externally controlling this device with sequencers or other devices modulating algorithmic manipulations. My experience with scalar controllers is that for those of us lacking the training of a skilled musician, devices like the Kordbot or the NDLR can actually be tools to visually learn theory via pattern recognition and I suspect that is also true for developing a sensitivity to tonal color, but indeed they create significant limitations on the degree of creativity possible with a full, unmodified instrument. One of the things mature electronic artists seem to like to point out though is that the limitations of the device are often exactly what is needed to stimulate creativity.

@paulsarodh5460 2 года назад

Superb

@DawlessHouseMusic 2 года назад

One of those rare modules that makes me want to break my now Eurorack rule

@vinylarchaeologist 2 года назад

Now* Eurorack? Freudian slip? 😊

@noahtotten 2 года назад

Sell everything and go eurorack. It’s the “dawless” endgame

@SongOfItself 10 месяцев назад

I’m not sure how to say it but I feel that I must 😊 Love your channel, I’ve watched so many of your videos, they’re incredibly well-presented and informative. You helped me decide to go for Keystep 37 and Novation Launchpad (the comparison between Pro and X was a godsend). But - I am not a hardware guy. I use Bitwig. And the common experience I have when I watch your channel is wanting to scream out loud: Bitwig can do this! I can do that in Bitwig already! And it’s easy! It’s almost become a sport for me: you show something cool Digitakt can do, say, and that same night I have that same thing running in Bitwig. No, seriously. I saw this video a few days ago and my first thought was: can I implement the core concept of Samchillian/Misha in Bitwig’s grid? And of course I could. Middle C is the home key, then five white keys on either side select intervals up and down. It’s an insane way to play, I can’t really do it, lol, but the patch works, and it was easier than I thought it would be. You occasionally mention Ableton Live, but I came here to say that I feel Bitwig could perhaps make an appearance here occasionally, as an alternative for those who can’t or won’t spend 600 euro on something like Misha. Or 850 on Digitakt; the sampler in the grid does those generative out-of-phase loops beautifully, and you can have as many tracks as you want. Or the MidiHub you reviewed elsewhere - Bitwig is all that and more. Hardware is okay too, I didn’t come here to start a war or anything 😊 But if there’s someone out there who loves to do this sort of thing but can’t go the hardware way, why not give them a hint that there’s a much more accessible equivalent in software? (I am not affiliated with Bitwig or anyone at all).

@loopop 10 месяцев назад

Thanks for the kind words in the beginning and shots fired in the rest!! It depends on what I'm reviewing, but generally speaking you're absolutely right that most of the instruments I show have a similar counterpart in software, bitwig isn't special in that respect. I review mainly hardware because I prefer to interact with physical knobs and faders and avoid DAW arrangements if possible, and I guess most viewers of the channel feel the same way otherwise they'd be watching plugin review channels. And if you're willing to patch stuff yourself, the sky's the limit with grid/max for live/vcv/puredata, the problem is most people aren't. So, not a war at all! Just different preferences. BTW specifically as far as this goes, after I made this video I learned about a plugin from WA Productions that does a very similar thing on the interval side, not the sequencing side (Instascale). I would have mentioned it had I known about it.

@benhavey4107 2 года назад

This is a fantastic sequencer and exactly what I've been looking for. This seems aimed at performers and composers with a classical music background and will allow for some in-depth improvisations that you can't really do at a keyboard. Also, I think this is intended to play well with other sequencers! You could sequence a tone row and then use another sequencer to move through the row in different ways. That's how composers use tone rows generally.

@verbosemusic 2 года назад

This is completely true (in-depth impros) and the reason why I think this format is missing its true potential. The engine really shines with both an expressive MIDI controller and an expressive sound engine. Misha lacks velocity (on board) or any expressive cv out, and eurorack lacks expressive sound engines that takes MIDI (EaganMatrix as only exception). I made a patch on TouchDesigner based on the Samchillian with 4 voices and it's really fun though, I can see it on a little standalone box as MIDI FX, with a computer it's totally replicable. Also, the sequencer is very limited for a module at that cost IMHO.

@bobbyb6412 Год назад

is there a max4live equivalent?

@foodstampz 2 года назад

Anyone know of a generative sequencer i can run off ipad ??

@domdib 2 года назад

ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-yHdqZSZS8TY.html might be helpful?

@kaioyoca 2 года назад

What are the biggest differences with an NDLR?

@EventideAudio 2 года назад

The biggest difference would be the interval based concept at the core of Misha. There are many other differences, but NDLR has a completely different approach to harmony/melody.

@kaioyoca 2 года назад

@@EventideAudio I understand, thank you very much for the reply

@solkansky5059 Год назад

by the way, I got it but I can use it w my midi keyboard because Eventide did not include the midi cable adaptor.

@mturrieta Год назад

“…because on this channel, even Unicorns can be sparklier.” LOVE THIS

@mikegeary8056 2 года назад

What’s that RYK? Module to the right with the long screen?

@loopop 2 года назад

See description

@AlbertSodylicious 2 месяца назад

Does anyone know what Eurorack enclosure that is?

@loopop 2 месяца назад

See description

@array1812 Год назад

Is there any way to add rest steps where no note plays? I haven't seen or read this is possible anywhere.

@loopop Год назад

yes I show it briefly in the video

@array1812 Год назад

@@loopop can u pass the section or time stamp? I watched the lil sequence section but not seeing it there. Sorry to trouble u hehe. thanks for the lovely review!

@loopop Год назад

@@array1812 sorry I don’t remember my videos by heart to the minute…

@PocketUnv Год назад

This thing seems seriously cool, but it does seem to thrive using MIDI rather than just CV which it probably would use in my rig.

@catchthehare 2 года назад

I'm on the fence with this one. It fills the Midi gap I want to create with my Sinfonion, and has "OK" playability, which the Sinfonion doesn't really have. But I haven't seen anyone demo the CV capabilities of this yet? Alarming. 600 bones is pretty damn steep too

@UreksatheJade Год назад

600 is surprisingly cheap

@hugocaldeiravinagre 2 года назад

everyone seems to be super excited with this. i've learned through the years that if you don't have nothing nice to say about something people love, then don't say it. so with that in regard, i wont :)

@ToyKeeper 2 года назад

I initially thought "Meh, another module. Am I bored enough to watch when I'm not into modular?" But after seeing what it does, it immediately became #1 on the list of things I need to implement in my midi processor daemon. It has some fantastic ideas.

@DickTracy420 5 месяцев назад

Dam this unit is pretty dope. The possibilities seem endless with this paired with a couple keyboards and an mpc… wow. I currently have a Yamaha MM6 and a Alesis Qs8 and an MPC5000. Wanted to buy one more unit to complete my arsenal for now and was thinking about getting a Texturelab from Liven but I might have to spend a little more and go for this

@3D6Space Год назад

re: 8:10 --> Can someone please correct my spelling. I can't find anything on the originator of this idea, as stated, probably because it is spelled wrong by me... a product called "sem chileon" developed by a guy named "Leon" and there is a picture of an unusual keyboard. Thanks!

@alexgrunde6682 2 года назад

Question about using MIDI notes/CC to change the scale: can you just use that to change the scale, or can you use it to change the scale and root note at the same time? So, hypothetically, an external sequencer could cause misha to go to B flat whole tone, then a bar later go to G blues, then another bar later go to C Phrygian, etc?

@EventideAudio 2 года назад

Yes, you can use CV or MIDI to change both the key and scale but this requires sending 2 messages (loading a specific key is under a different action Type: Key Sig). And yes, your idea could be accomplished very easily with Misha.

@fabamarie Год назад

I don’t understand why it is eurorack ? It s for keyboard composers, not for modulare world

@joseph.nicolaus Год назад

lovely ...

@cockur 2 года назад

It would have been nice to have seen the how this might be used in a eurorack context instead of with just MIDI. I'm struggling to see how it fits into euro at all when it could just as easily be a MIDI plugin of some kind

@EventideAudio 2 года назад

Misha can fit into your Eurorack setup in many ways whether it is acting as the main sequencer of your system, or working in tandem with another one of your favorite Eurorack sequencers. The CV outputs allow you to use Misha's tone row sequencer with your eurorack oscillators in the same way that he is playing a MIDI synth here. You can also play MIDI into Misha to trigger the intervals and play your eurorack oscillators via CV out. The T/G/CV input pairs can work exactly the same as how the MIDI input is working in this example. You can trigger the intervals with a different sequencer, or you can customize how they work to perform almost any function on Misha, which can be seen in the MIDI map menu that Loopop shows (the MIDI map menu options are the same as the CV input options) The T/G inputs can be used as standalone triggers, or they can be used as a gate with an accompanying voltage. More information can be found on page 41 of the manual - downloads.eventide.com/audio/manuals/misha/MishaUserGuide.pdf

@cockur 2 года назад

@@EventideAudio Thank you Eventide 🎛 🎚 👌

@anthonyagnello3733 2 года назад

I've been thinking about this a bit and it occurs to me that it's not possible to build an intervallic instrument in the physical world. Humans have built and used tools forever; including tools to make music. I'm not a historian but I imagine that the earliest pitched instruments were hollowed out bones with carved holes to change pitch or cat gut strings whose length determined pitch. In either case, the note is always fixed based on the combination of holes open/stopped or the length of 'string.' I simply can't think of a way to make an instrument that would work like Misha in the real world - it's abstract; software, and Leon Gruenbaum's insight, made it possible. Funny but I wonder if we've been stuck for millennia using traditional instruments and only now have opened the door to creating melodies in a simpler way. No training required.

@verbosemusic Год назад

It's totally possible! if you add some electricity and motors like a -5 +5 keyboard connected to a relay system which activates, for example, hammers on a piano, no software nor abstract. Also, it could be purely mechanical without electricity, considerably more complex though. Think that early calculators/computers are basically some levers and gears. If you can make something as complex as a calculator, you sure can do an interval instrument.

@anthonyagnello3733 Год назад

Yep you are right. It could be done with gears and levers and such. I was thinking about long history of humans making musical instruments. Totally possible from the time of Babbage.

@Skiddoo42 Год назад

@@anthonyagnello3733 Oh god but the effort required when you can just program a setting to accomplish the same thing with Ableton and a Linnstrument or Push-type thing. Even with the ability to create such an instrument with ease or considerable effort, it's still the decisions of nested logic by the operator that makes it sound interesting, when done well... even dare I say, musical.

@trippypages7309 Год назад

👁J👁 Hi. I was checking out the VECTORWAVE with plans of buying it and i found out that is recommended for experieced builders. So i am not. ..... can you please name other stuff similar to the Vectorwave?

@RYKModular Год назад

The assembled version of the Vector Wave is very similar . . . 🙂

@trippypages7309 Год назад

@@RYKModular i visit the web site again..... i do not have a clue how it happened that i did not saw it 🙃.... thank you 👍👍🏻👍🏼👍🏽👍🏾👍🏿

@zmix Год назад

23:23 where is that clip available online?

@loopop Год назад

I don’t know

@zmix Год назад

@@loopop Did Steve send you that privately?

@loopop Год назад

@@zmix yes

@leandrocesarmaccan5655 2 года назад

Does it djent?

@elissitdesign Год назад

I wish they’d just release all their existing pedals on Eurorack format.

@jacklinks7554 Год назад

Ok as a modifier to previous comment, shouldn't write off this device yet. Loo I have loved your demos for a long time. I think I just need to see another demo with some friggin cv inputs and controlling of an actual oscillator

@loopop Год назад

yeah I don't disagree that it would have been nice to have a few CV based examples, but the video was getting long as is, so in this case I'm relying on the intelligence of my viewers to fill in some blanks...

@jacklinks7554 Год назад

@@loopop very good point and it obviously is a very powerful unit if it requires all that time to demonstrate features without even involving CV. Certainly can exercise some patience and wait to see how it works more in the context of a patch. Thanks for your content as always!

@ofootyeabicc201 2 года назад

At the ~9:36 mark I swear I thought I was about to hear the Rugrats theme.

@miguelhijarmusic Год назад

Schoenberg is clawing at the walls of his coffin

@adamd3820 2 года назад

Wish they had a desktop /standalone version

@johnnymidnight2982 2 года назад

Pop it in a 4MS pod.

@ohheisbaer Год назад

coooool

@treschlet Год назад

Hey cool, I've been designing something quite similar

@LeeBlaske 2 года назад

Just curious... How many hours did you invest in learning this module before making this video?

@loopop 2 года назад

It probably took 2-3 days to get a good feel for it. If I had my video it would be much less!

@donit. 2 года назад

Not blown away by it mostly because it still has way too many limitations for my taste (compared to a computer) but the idea is great, maybe I'll write a script like that for my midi keyboard

@verbosemusic 2 года назад

I did it and it’s really fun, specially with several stacks of notes / poly. Not like the preset chords shown here.

@cecilkeebler4254 2 года назад

@@verbosemusicAny GitLab/GitHub links you care to share? I am working on something somewhat similar using MATLAB whereby I am wanting to sonify numerical sequences. Here, the numbers in the sequence would correspond to the intervals in a given scale. For an example of this, search for Per Nørgård and Infinity Series.

@RabRabNZ Год назад

Bruh you didnt mention the big flashy light RYK Vector Wave. This looks cool, but damn the pricing is pretty prohibitative with hapax coming back soon.

@loopop Год назад

Setup details are typically in the description but yes Vector Wave is cool

@asmr6773 Год назад

👍👍🏻👍🏼👍🏽👍🏾👍🏿

@NickHowesAstro 2 года назад

Much like Gattobus was hired by Roland, a lot of manufacturers would do well by employing you as a professional product demonstrator.

@loopop 2 года назад

Thanks! I don’t accept money from companies, but if they make original or interesting gear I’m happy to cover it!

@manteuro Год назад

i just can't see a reason for purchasing this, when ableton is a much more flexible generative sequencer with follow actions in session view.

@00Dakka 2 года назад

The core functionality of this module is a max patch you could make in 20 mins

@oyoyoyo7624 2 года назад

Are there videos about how to do so? Thanks

@SteveMeiers 2 года назад

Re. "Are there videos..." Yes, sort of. RU-vid: Ableton Max, then go to work learning "how to". It's an extremely powerful set of Legos for musicians, but like most things powerful, there is a learning curve. This would not be an extremely complex set of functions individually, but making as good a UI, like the one on Misha, depends on your own needs and conceptualisation skills. It would be a great learning experience tho, and i wouldn't be surprised if someoneS undertake cloning this functionality, if they haven't already begun. Engineering is after all just the merger of conceptualisation and evolution. This is a great concept and execution, IMO. And as always Loopop presents us with a superb demo and overview of what it brings to the party. My only sadness about this device is its $599 price, making it rather inaccessible to the masses and a boutique device, but also motivation to learn Max or other plugin scripting tools. Maybe that was also part of their intent, so kudos to the designers!

@verbosemusic 2 года назад

I have made a 4 note engine on TouchDesigner (4 mono stacks selected depending on timing, so stack 3 is affected only with previous 2 keys pressed) based on Samchillian too. In my experience it’s really fun but it's a one trick pony. The most interesting was actually playing chords pressing several keys, Loopop only shows that briefly pressing two keys at once, and the chord mode showed extensively in the video are preset chords so it’s not the same. IMO it’s best with very expressive sound engines and for that you really need velocity at least. Knowing most expressive engines are standalone synths or plugins (EaganMatrix the big exception), the lack of on board velocity and the lack of cv outputs (for expression, not jus pitch and gate), I don’t think Misha is the best format to resurrect the Samchillian. Not even talking about the sequencer, which in my opinion is too limited for a module at this price. I can see a little (and affordable) standalone box with proper I/O and a few buttons for settings and direct preset selection, just converting MIDI and hooking up your fav controller. A little bit on the engine, it’s based to work on Sensel Morph Buchla layout which is a match made in heaven. Also, I was lazy and quantization to scale is done afterwards so there are a few intervals not being 1:1

@mariog1051 2 года назад

Some people value time over money and don't have time to waste playing with obtuse tools

@verbosemusic Год назад

@@Leviathan-mj8gi Regarding Max devices being buggy, I guess you had bad luck overall. I actively use a few that are very reliable, and know other people using max for extensive live use for both audio and video.

@Callie1981 2 года назад

oh bollox, the GAS is real 😂

@bungeechord1 Год назад

I bought one and it just arrived. I'm using Misha with a percussion controller for chords and solos. So far, its going very well. Thanks for another great video. AMI TrapKat, PanKat, DrumKat, DrumTech custom fsr Pads. Kat KT-M1, Sonic Cell, 1010Music Nanobox, EMU Proteus2000.

@TheOnlyHandleAvailable Год назад

Yo happy for you that you got one of these, but we're not on [insert name of synth forum] now... you don't have to list out your synths/gear XD

@bungeechord1 Год назад

Thanks, but did you consider that my equipment list was for someone else, not you? Why would you bother to take the time to comment? Are you a member of the Comment Police? 😆