Review: Moog Sirin (including Minituar firmware updates over the years)

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TIMELINE:
0:00 Intro
0:40 Unboxing
1:15 Digital control
1:55 Oscillators
3:20 Shift functions
3:40 Filter
4:20 Mixer
5:30 LFO
6:40 VCO2 mods
8:30 Envelopes
9:45 Glide
10:05 CV to mod/MIDI
11:00 Sirin editor
12:45 Pros & cons
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Комментарии : 383

@hellohogo 3 года назад

please tell Moog to mass produce this. The resale prices are INSANE

@alifeinyellow Год назад

Saw one locally for 1200 recently 🙄

@teamcoalhapcharcoal Год назад

Vermona Mono Lancet

@djcvmusic1 Год назад

and to make a software editor like the minitaur

@danselzer Год назад

@@djcvmusic1 There is a software editor. It's great.

@hoagy_ytfc Год назад

Just bought one for £850, which seems a bit much for such a minor tweak to the way-cheaper Minitaur. I don't understand why they don't go into proper full production with this. It'll wreck the value of mine, but I don't care, I'm not selling it so the value is not relevant.

@chemicalBR0 5 лет назад

having to download manuals for everything nowadays really does my head in. (it's practically everything these days not just synths) If I'm spending 600 bucks on a synth I want a full printed manual in a nicely bound book that I can flick through in bed. reading stuff on a screen on your phone or tablet is just not the same as having a book made of paper. analogue manuals FTW :)

@mikeexits 4 года назад

Honestly, my eyes tire out way faster reading a screen. I'll never switch to e-books for this reason.

@GB3770 4 года назад

i must agree - i get why budget synth makers get you to download a pdf but moog is kinda the rolls royce of synths and for 600 yeh they should do a spiral bound manual...

@Bolle128 4 года назад

we should probably also print out the internet. great for carbon foot print and such ;)

@Michael_Smith-Red_No.5 2 года назад

@@KevinJDildonik Yes.

@SourceRE 5 лет назад

2:35 is where Nick Batt starts crying.

@JamieClark 5 лет назад

didn't watch yet, but I'll assume the Siren doesn't have PWM?

@GB3770 4 года назад

lol i get that joke

@HiltonKing 3 года назад

Is it embarrassing that I know why?

@RhettAnderson 5 лет назад

Very well done review. I have a Minitaur and I had forgotten some of the added features.

@ababyalbatross9016 5 лет назад

I love my Minitaur. This video has definitely helped me make sense of the additional functions of it. Thank you for the cheat sheet! I just wish I could trade it in for the Sirin and get those extra notes and colours...

@ProjetHomeStudio 4 года назад

The video is really really good, very clear explanations and great overall quality

@Sven.Bornemark 5 лет назад

This is a very clear, informative and inspiring review. Thank you! :-)

@fiddlestickzmuzik 5 лет назад

Your videos are really good thesedays, you put a lot of effort in and it shows.

@loopop 5 лет назад

Thanks ;)

@mikearmstrongmusic 5 лет назад

Your reviews are always great. If you included an additional video of just musical examples you’d probably be the goto. Either way, always informative. Thanks!

@thephantom8865 5 лет назад

By this point, I’m convinced that you are a pair of talking musical hands lol. Thanks for the review!

@trevor4835 5 лет назад

The Phantom loled

@kaiwenzou 3 года назад

I wish Moog would release more units :( this is so beautiful

@CaidicusProductions 5 лет назад

Thanks for this presentation, informative and entertaining, as always.

@oliveribasta5929 5 лет назад

That was fast🎉 Great review👍

@sung5032 5 лет назад

You definitively make the best hardware synths reviews available on YT. Cheers!

@bigdyke69 5 лет назад

You give the best reviews man @loopop

@MarkMoriArts 5 лет назад

Good video editing! Is good to see that.

@fuzzpope 5 лет назад

Great infomercial, cheers. Would not mind having one of these to throw on a shelf for 20 years. Side note: really enjoyed that short minimalist piece at video start/end, nicely done.

@edrosa3485 5 лет назад

Great job! Saw the Moog video and had no idea what this really was.

@mixflame9078 5 лет назад

Very interesting review. Thanks!

@Zaubrer488 5 лет назад

God I love the design of the recent Moogs. The colors are great and subtle (not like Korg for example) and just beautiful. Lovely machine. Bummer that it is limited.

@erikb.8125 5 лет назад

Thanks for sharing, I was curious about this one! I would love to see an iOS app version of the controller program, that would make this even more portable and would pair really well with Moog’s existing app collection

@WestonStephens 5 лет назад

Thank you so much for this video!!!!

@JamieClark 5 лет назад

@Loopop just wanted to say your editing has improved *SO* much since I started watching your videos. Absolutely love the "virtual" oscilloscope and frequency analyzer on a "tilted panel" that's well done - it makes my eyes confused because the table doesn't have the same vanishing point, though; maybe next time you could actually put a tilted (blank) panel behind whatever device you're using, and "photoshop" the plugin screens onto that? It would look more natural/less distracting (and super pro) Congrats on the sub count this year - looking forward to a 50k special!

@loopop 5 лет назад

Thanks very much! Noted re angles... 50k - yeah that’s crazy I was kind of giddy at 50 ;)

@adamoliver82 5 лет назад

I admired the same thing, looks really great.

@alveydoug 4 года назад

Dang this thing's got a clean sound, especially when you consider the form factor/pricing. Your O-Scopes don't lie!

@MatthewMouras 5 лет назад

Thanks for the video. Personally, this is the first piece of moog hardware I haven’t been excited about in a while. Hope they have another modular surprise for moogfest.

@setphaser 5 лет назад

i’m really happy to see colour on the interface, i’d be very happy if other companies followed suit. but sirin is the definition of a synth that needs knob per function. shift functions require memory, and that’s always going to be unintuitive and difficult live.

@elliotdavidson7137 5 лет назад

love your style Mr HGL

@moss2309 5 лет назад

Very well reviewed!

@fakshen1973 5 лет назад

If you're going to have alternate functions, then LABEL those functions around the knob too! I don't have just ONE synth.. I don't have just ONE piece of gear. Having to remember where something is or pull out a cheat-sheet is just lazy design.

@ArcAudios77 5 лет назад

Exactly, well stated.

@gr3g0r5 5 лет назад

it's even worse on the sub phatty. Makes me not use the alternative functions of it. and that doesn't even seem to get firmware updates anymore.

@SuperMegaWoofer3000 5 лет назад

I've had a minitaur for a while I didn't even realise it had hidden functions. I'm kinda happy though because NEW FREE STUFF!

@saam6768 5 лет назад

Totally, I use the shit out of my minitaur and I didn't even know half these functions exists. I know I updated the firmware but honestly I'm not trying to fire up my computer and click around on some software when I'm making music.

@arando4359 5 лет назад

fakshen1973 it’s a small problem... to me it isn’t one at all. I would just make labels.

@smallbusinesstrainingbymartin 5 лет назад

Great job as always and wish you would do a video just on the latest version of the Minituar too, you are so good at explaining things.

@loopop 5 лет назад

Thanks! This really is the video you want. The only different is the octave range and colors

@mynameistechno 5 лет назад

@@loopop so there is no real reason for a minitaur nowadays?

@cubis 5 лет назад

@@mynameistechno There are only 2500 sirens being made. after that the Minitaur will be your only option

@tbh6046 3 года назад

What I find baffling is that anyone would see fit to leave a dislike on any of your videos. Many thanks as always!

@philiptoner8719 3 года назад

Those dislikes were left by Berringer empoyees

@BahrCreative 5 лет назад

Great video man!

@moano3271 5 лет назад

This is the best unboxing/review. Video i have seen of any synth. Brilliant work. I have been looking at theminitaur for a long time. Would you call this a replacement for minitaur or a companion? It does everything the minitaur does and more?

@loopop 5 лет назад

Thanks! Unless you have unlimited funds it’s probably an either/or situation. I think the bass range on this is just fine (goes under 30hz) and would prefer the flexibility of notes above C4, I also really dig the new color schemes - but that’s just me.

@ebbanmaeda8873 5 лет назад

my fav place to learn about new fun toys

@deadrituals 4 года назад

Great vid!

@junglsmor 5 лет назад

i love the look

@erronsanchez4093 5 лет назад

I love this guys videos, he’s so cool. Lol

@ssmith2019 5 лет назад

Good vidy Loop . . . I thought that the Minituar had Pulse Width Modulation . . . but if the Siren (and Minituar) don't have this, perhaps PW Modulation could be added with a future firmware update.

@JoeCarterDesigns 5 лет назад

Such a GOOD informative video! If you're on a budget, how close is the Minotaur to the Sirin if you're totally updated with firmware? How big of a difference does the OSC range make? :) THANKS again for making this. so good.

@malthus101 4 года назад

lol no reply

@kierenmoore3236 2 года назад

F … … …

@loopop 2 года назад

Oh wow it is odd that I didn’t answer this. Anyway, very close except the oscillator range which is broader on Sirin

@PaulJBurns 5 лет назад

@loopop, as ever great video.

@loopop 5 лет назад

Thanks :)

@whatisthis70 5 лет назад

Thanks so much for another in depth video. Can you please explain how you have powered and setup the Keith Macmillan K-Board to work with the Sirin?

@loopop 5 лет назад

The keyboard was going through a computer and then MIDI routed back to Sirin via Ableton

@josehaya6362 5 лет назад

excelent as always!! does it goes as low and does it sound as fat as the minitaur?

@TK-bw1ri 4 года назад

I love your work. You make life so much easier with your vids. I have been looking in to books to learn synthesis and synths. Is there any book in particular you would recommend me?

@loopop 4 года назад

My pleasure thanks for the comment. I would of course recommend my book, but I am very very biased

@TK-bw1ri 4 года назад

Ill take it! What is your books name?

@loopop 4 года назад

thomas kelleher i advertise it at the end of every video ;) check out my patreon link in the description?

@QuincasMoreira 5 лет назад

nice! Hey, what are you using to overlay those nice scope images in your video?

@loopop 5 лет назад

Thanks! Premiere Pro

@zugrath16 5 лет назад

I think this synth has potential. It's a perfect component if you're a producer looking for an analog VCO synth. The fact that it doesn't take up much space and has MIDI integration is a huge plus. The downside is, of course, the limited functionality. But if you want to create a sound that is heavily modulated you might as well use a soft synth in my opinion. If you want that pure analog beefy sound then this is perfect

@VincenzoToroRoot 5 лет назад

Hi, awesome video man! One question: what did u use as oscillocope and spectroscope? Thanks

@loopop 5 лет назад

Thanks! MOscilloscope and Ableton Spectrum

@jennywang8597 5 лет назад

thx for this. I have a mintaur and it always bothered me that they crippled the range as they did.

@anonymusum 4 года назад

Thanx for the great review. Do you know how polychain works?

@LimGiong 5 лет назад

Thanks.

@KeithCanisius 5 лет назад

Wish I could use it in my Eurorack case All these modules take space :-)

@djmixin1 5 лет назад

I already have the Minitaur, I guess I'll get the grandmother now

@TooSlowTube 4 года назад

@6:52 - that's the user interface I'd want if I bought one - one knob per function, like the app, instead of all the shift functions I'd never remember.

@JonMurray 5 лет назад

Great video as always dude. On the lookout for my next synth (as ALWAYS 😂). I know Moog equipment costs a bit more, that’s an argument/discussion for another day haha! But, am I the only one that thinks this is a hell of a lot for something that doesn’t seem to deliver that much? I know you’re getting “that” sound but this thing just isn’t doing it for me I’m afraid. Thoughts anyone?

@SynthgodXXX 5 лет назад

My next Moog Synthesizer... that's if they don't sell out that is! Great demo! A+++++++++++++++++++++

@Lalaland.001 5 лет назад

before you go and buy this synth I highly recommend you take a look at a vermona mono lancet. Imho it sounds way better and costs way less.

@kaiam3907 5 лет назад

Lalaland you’re comparing synths that are meant for different sounds and projects?

@kaiam3907 5 лет назад

SynthgodXXX definitely worth it. They are too much fun to play with!!

@Lalaland.001 5 лет назад

@@kaiam3907 Although the Mono Lancet doesnt have memory, daw editor stuff and it’s external in is only available with an add on dock thingy, it’s cheaper and just sounds way better to me. Also better note range. Moog need to up their game I think, because companies like Vermona and Dreadbox (with their brutal Hades, Erebus V3, Abyss and Nyx)are producing top grade machines. These companies are also making their gear in small teams and it’s all handmade in-house , so it’s starting to become apparent there’s way more options than ever for cool gear than ever. I have the original Mono Lancet, the Mono Lancet '15, the PERfourMER MKII, the Kick Lancet (and the Retroverb Lancet and the Filter Lancet too)... The Vermona stuff is so awesome, and far far better than Moog. I like Moog too, as I have the vintage The Source and Minimoog synths, and the 2016 Minimoog re-release too, and many other Moog stuff, so I know what I'm speaking about. Not really comparing them, just saying there is a lot more out there, then moog.

@Lalaland.001 5 лет назад

@@kaiam3907 Did you actually read my entire comment. Or are you just here to spread your true bias, apparently you have a hard time reading and actually understanding my comment, I actually own several moogs, more the 10 moogs to be a bit more specific. I have nothing against them, I actually like them, but here you are trying to defend something. That I was never attacking to begin with. Read the final two phrases of my previous statements and get what it says there. I actually know some of the designers and creators of Dreadbox, that doesn't make my points any more valid nor their products any better as the sound of the products talks for itself, or does it not? If anything it makes me more biased about their products, hence it has nothing to do with anything I just said. I actually recommended someone to look at a vermona product in my first comment, since I happen to like it. And it has a better, bigger sound, if you were looking for a similar soundscape. Do you get that at all, nice to know you know some people at moog, but it's completely irrelevant in the sound department, since the sound comes from the synth itself and not the people you know. Thank you

@deshonedon3666 5 лет назад

Can you do a video on how to connect two or three to make them polyphonic,that would be great👍

@guillwhammy 3 года назад

Hi thanks for the great review. I was wondering how did you display the oscillator image ?

@loopop 3 года назад

Thanks! I use MOscilloscope and MAnalyzer by a company called Melda - they’re free with some limitations in the MFreeFXBundle. Occasionally I’ll use scopes by VCV

@INFINITYREALM 2 года назад

Why did they stop making this lovely piece? They even made a software editor, then bam, gone. Was barely out very long. I am about to get a minitaur, but hesitate due to limited range.

@Symmetry77 5 лет назад

I'm gonna get very drunk if I have a shot every time you say shift

@dennisristow2102 5 лет назад

The oscillators in the Minitaur are designed to mimic the Taurus 1 (and 3) in that their resolution is designed with bass frequency in mind, hence the note limitation of the Minitaur to align with the Taurus. Do you know if the Siren has the same oscillators and are just extended up to D8? Do the Siren and Minitaur sound the same when playing the same bass note? Great review as always, you really know how to not only review a product, but you clearly explain and break down the review making it easy to focus on specific settings and parameters. You've helped me spend my money wisely :-).

@josehaya6362 5 лет назад

Im about to order this, but i am wondering about the same things you are.

@ericpeters0n 5 лет назад

Same question!

@redirishmanxlt 5 лет назад

Moog says they're modified taurus oscillators that go to C8 instead of just C4.

@MONSIEURLANCEDRAKE 5 лет назад

From what I was told, yes the mini has a deeper bass than the sirin.

@saam6768 5 лет назад

@@MONSIEURLANCEDRAKE Can you give me a source on this claim? Because I'm trying to decide if I would be spending $600 on a compliment to my Minitaur (not worth it to me) or if it'll be replacing my Minitaur with no sounds sacrificed.

@ubiquitousreverser 5 лет назад

As always, great review. It’s cute, and they are only making a limited run for those wondering why this is being produced? Other than the CV and smaller form factor I don’t know why you’d spend on that when you can get a sub phatty used for about the same price. Just got one back in my home last week. To each their own but I’ll take 2 variable waveform Oscillators and selectable 4 pole filter not including the other feature’s of the sub phatty over these units. I’m sure someone will like the Sirin, I wondered about that spelling, found out that’s the Russian spelling for Siren, thought they were taking sone artistic liberty with the spelling at first. Made me think of Sarin gas. Would be cool if they did a similar thing with the sub phatty, hmmm maybe. Add some CV, maybe an arpeggiator or some other unique little added feature and that colorful face design too.

@jc3drums916 5 лет назад

Maybe the Minitaur and Sirin have a fatter sound than the Sub Phatty? There's a video where the Minitaur, Sirin, and Sub37 were compared, and while the differences between the Minitaur and Sirin were mostly minimal (the Minitaur had the fatter raw square wave (though it seemed less "perfect" in theory, due to a particularly prominent overtone), but sawtooth waves were nearly identical, and the synths sounded indistinguishable when patched), they were both noticeably fatter than the Sub37. Others have claimed the Minitaur is the fattest of the production Moogs, including the Minimoog Model D. Some people will take pure sound quality over any number of features. I thought perhaps Moog replaced the e in siren with an i because they did the same to the o in minotaur.

@asynchronicity Год назад

It's time for a reissue🙏

@superultrathanksmom3845 5 лет назад

Is there any reason for this to not have paraphony, like the bass station has nowadays? Edit: I spoke too soon, you mentioned it at 13:45. I hope they add the feature!

@grzegorzzielinski6574 2 года назад

Hi loopop, thanks for another great review. Does that mean that Sirin can completely replace Minitaur? I mean can it sound exactly like Minitaur? I though they are different synths

@loopop 2 года назад

Thanks! Unfortunately I have not compared them side by side

@theleastsignificantbit4794 Год назад

NO. The bass on the Minitaur is earthshaking. The Sirin is not.

@Tazmanian_Ninja 5 лет назад

Good video! Thank you for that. I'm not feeling that new toy-color scheme Moog's doing with this and the Grandmother...

@abrokenframe82 5 лет назад

Damn for a second I thought Moog had re issued the Source!

@hugoencalada3833 4 года назад

Thank you so much for such a great informative video! Quick question, Is it posible to use Sirin Editor VI inside Komplete Kontrol in Ableton? I'd like to use KK Scale function, play with Sirin Hardware and record Automation in Ableton. Thank you!

@JuanJLopez-ge7vi 4 года назад

Hugo Encalada you can just route the midi coming out of the kk channel in ableton into any channel you’d like. I use with all my hardware synths all the time

@frankschafer1505 5 лет назад

is it a minitaur with extended octave range or is there more to it? ok watched till the end. now i know

@jorgeandresduran5575 4 года назад

4:15 R.I.P Eardrums

@subcityofficial9409 4 года назад

Hey, love your videos! You mentioned the Sirin can be played paraphonic. Can you please let me know how this is done

@subcityofficial9409 4 года назад

Is how to do this in your In-Complete Book of Electronic Music?

@loopop 4 года назад

I didn’t include the specifics in the book sorry - it’s using ccs so it’s just for fun, it doesn’t make it truly paraphonic

@anonymusum 4 года назад

Really good review. Still got a question: Is the software a stand-alone type or do I need a DAW? I would like to use three of them on stage and use my tablet to control them. So would it be possible? Thanks in advance.

@loopop 4 года назад

The software works both standalone and in a daw

@anonymusum 4 года назад

@@loopop Thanx so much!

@jreid9363 5 лет назад

Really wanted to like this...but my Vermona Mono Lancet 15 still sounds much better to my ears. Although the Mono Lancet doesnt have memory, daw editor stuff and it’s external in is only available with an add on dock thingy, it’s cheaper and just sounds way better to me. Also better note range. Moog need to up their game I think, because companies like Vermona and Dreadbox (with their lovely Erebus V3 and Nyx)are producing top grade machines. These companies are also making their gear in small teams and it’s all handmade in-house , so it’s starting to become apparent there’s way more options than ever for cool gear than ever. I think the Sirin looks beautiful, but before you click order, check out the competition as it’s very tight.

@alanhaynes418 5 лет назад

I agree - I've had my Mono Lancet for years now, and I have yet to find another synth that is so creamy and organic sounding. It makes most other analogs sound sterile in comparison.

@jreid9363 5 лет назад

Yeah it’s probably my favourite sounding synth I have based on its basic core sound. I need to experiment more with its filter as I bought the modular dock thing. Need to try running my prophet 12 through it I think!

@MrArpSolina 5 лет назад

Exactly, I have the original Mono Lancet, the Mono Lancet '15, the PERfourMER MKII, the Kick Lancet (and the Retroverb Lancet and the Filter Lancet too)... The Vermona stuff is so awesome, and far far better than Moog. I like Moog too, as I have the vintage The Source and Minimoog synths, and the 2016 Minimoog re-release too, and many other Moog stuff, so I know what I'm speaking about.

@kgbinfo 5 лет назад

lol @ “need to up their game”. dunno where you’ve been, but Moog just released the Moog One, which is the pinnacle of digitally controlled analog synthesis technology. They made the game.

@jreid9363 5 лет назад

LOL the only game you’re playing there is with your finances if you get the Moog One. When you look at their more ‘affordable’ options, they seem far less cutting edge or even in this case satisfactory.

@MinusNoir 4 года назад

Just a thought, would Moog Grandmother kind of replace Sirin and add more, just for a minimum higher price?

@jeffpaige6149 5 лет назад

It's curious to see how the conversation sometimes devolves into these increasingly polarized camps, from "I hate it" / "I love it" to "I hate you" / "I hate you." Over synthesizers.

@NicleT Месяц назад

Another item on the wishlist would be the addition of a Noise Generator. Maybe with the combination of Shift + [?] knob. Also, does Sirin / Minitaur are velocity sensitive? I'm trying different bass synths these days and thought I found my candidate with the Erica Synths Bassline DB-01, but it doesn't react to velocity when playing with a midi keyboard controller.

@bryancowan6703 3 года назад

Does the Siren support breath control or aftertouch? Considering getting one for my EWI!

@ToyKeeper 5 лет назад

This looks like a fun little box, though I don't really understand why it's listed for $599 instead of $249 or $299. It seems like Moog's version of a Microbrute, minus some features and hardware.

@ToyKeeper 5 лет назад

Just a ballpark comparison to the price of other products in its class. I recognize that Moog devices all cost more than pretty much any other brand though, so I don't expect the pricing to be competitive. Their gear is generally quite nice, but it comes at a premium. Like, the Moog One seems pretty awesome... but for the price of the cheapest version, I'd rather have three Novation Peaks, a nice MIDI keyboard, a Digitakt, a nice mixer, three times as many voices, and a table.

@junglsmor 5 лет назад

if lfo is set to filter eg and the destination is the filter what happens. isnt that the same as what the filter envelope already does

@stinkypete9070 Год назад

Wish they'd re-release this. A sub25-37 is overkill for me, loved my minitaur but it was a touch limited. (I have a sub 37 now, but I'd happily sell it and trade down if they ever reissued a Sirin) Is there an alternative to the Sirin? (I do automate things with my daw sometimes.)

@cockur 5 лет назад

It's nice but I was really hoping we'd see a purchasable Subharmonicon from Moog. I don't think we ever will

@symbiat0 4 года назад

+loopop How did you hook up the K-board to the Sirin? Did you use a hub or did you find a micro USB to USB B MIDI cable ?

@loopop 4 года назад

Through a computer (which was acting like a USB MIDI Host)

@MarioTorre 5 лет назад

Seems very similar to the monologue, with the filter being moog of course. Is it?

@mattsynth 5 лет назад

Not what I would call breakthrough sound.

@totalbrainfail1812 4 года назад

It's a Moog synth. None of them seem worth their price anymore.

@moesalamander7012 4 года назад

totalbrainfail sad but true

@manny_f 4 года назад

I can make any of these sounds in a number of softsynths that are much cheaper and can be instantiated unlike this. Not all analogue synths are worth it.

@jasper374 4 года назад

@@totalbrainfail1812 What about the Grandmother? Mine's amaaaazing

@anonymusum 4 года назад

Loopop obviously didn´t use excellent speakers. I bet Sirin would sound quite like Little Phatty for example.

@soulegacymusic8269 5 лет назад

When you got the sirin editor loaded did the vst work out the gate or did you have to program it. Is the ease of that process depend on the DAW?

@loopop 5 лет назад

It just worked

@soulegacymusic8269 5 лет назад

@@loopop im having issues running it thru Maschine. I can only hear it when I turn on midi echo.

@loopop 5 лет назад

Sorry friend it’s really not feasible to troubleshoot this in the comment section...

@soulegacymusic8269 5 лет назад

@@loopop I did expect you to sir. I appreciate the responsiveness. Keep up with great content!

@sageironshooter2442 5 лет назад

Should this be the first synth I get?

@jordanporto1925 5 лет назад

Hi great review, what's the waveform visualizer you're using?

@loopop 5 лет назад

Thanks! MOscilloscope and Ableton Spectrum

@mumbled73 5 лет назад

@ loopop What are you using as an arpeggiator / sequencer to generate the sounds at the beginning of the video?

@loopop 5 лет назад

Ableton Live

@jc3drums916 5 лет назад

@@loopop How are you able to get both a bass line and a sequence coming out of it at the same time? Was the sequence playing from an external source?

@loopop 5 лет назад

The intro is two takes mashed up (you can see my hands are doing two different things)

@theNickRYG 5 лет назад

Is this not released yet? I couldn't find it online

@innerspacerace9196 5 лет назад

I sold my minituar, missed the form factor so I bought a nuetron no regrets , never warmed up the the minituar usb features

@twentysevenfourmusic 4 года назад

i'm thinking of buying either a Minitaur or a Neutron, which would you recommend for a beginner?

@oskenso 4 года назад

@@twentysevenfourmusic Definitely a Neutron, I received mine a few months ago and it's an amazing synth. The modular control makes it totally worth it imo :D

@ScottofOakland 5 лет назад

Thats shift function looks mighty awkward. Streeeeetch your fingers! I guess small hands folks are outta luck... I'm not stoked for this. Sorry Moog!!

@cubis 5 лет назад

Most people have two hands though?

@TylerSmith-wm7hn 5 лет назад

@@cubis then are u playing it with your feet?

@cubis 5 лет назад

@@TylerSmith-wm7hn play it with a sequence on, dial in the sound you want, then go to town. Like I'll use my keystep to play a small scale progression in a loop, configure the patch, and then jam away.

@saam6768 5 лет назад

As someone with relatively small hands, its not much of a stretch. I don't think you realize the whole synth is like 8" across.

@arando4359 5 лет назад

Saam i was just gonna say that. Unless if you’re like, a 5 year old, you should be fine.

@Eustice2 5 лет назад

Needs more knobs. I'm not into holding shift and needing a third hand.

@SPAZZOID100 4 года назад

Would drive the price up.

@TheDarklord7000 3 года назад

Is it possible to connect this with the electron Digitek and a korg volca? I have an idea of that set-up by don't want to buy everything and watch it not work.

@loopop 3 года назад

yes

@secretstairsrecords9972 3 года назад

Could you get a Minitaur and update its firmware to support Sirin higher octaves and make use of the more ADSR support or is it locked in because it’s analog?

@macpaz 3 года назад

As far as octave range goes, this seems to be a hardware limitation that cannot be fixed with a new FW on the minitaur unfortunately.

@programlamadefteri 5 лет назад

What do you use as reverb unit on the demo?

@loopop 5 лет назад

A smidge of Valhalla Shimmer

@cubis 5 лет назад

Thanks Loopop! I've wanted a minitaur for a while. I'm considering grabbing this while they're available. Do you know if you can polychain a Sirin with a Minitaur?

@loopop 5 лет назад

You're welcome! I would assume so but check with Moog to make sure...

@cubis 5 лет назад

@@loopopI'll try that. oh and how do the colors match up with the grandmother?

@loopop 5 лет назад

Ha! I’ll know when I get home - still at NAMM but this certainly looks like it’s in her family

@cubis 5 лет назад

@@loopop I finally decided to pull the trigger and their online sale is over :'(

@loopop 5 лет назад

They’re making 2500 of these so there are probably a few more to go around

@Sarahbuildsstepsequencers 4 года назад

Who else was waiting for the knob to have a motorized response to adjustment of the software ‘knob’? 🙋🏻

@EightsEverywhere 4 года назад

Even if it just had LED indicators that would work well but thats probably a problem with analog idk

@nectariosm 5 лет назад

No one does rehashing better than Moog.

@slushedpuppy8044 5 лет назад

It's the Siren from Mohg.

@madebydemin 5 лет назад

which microphone do you use in this video? With preamp? Or directly to ad-? Which AD? Thx.

@loopop 5 лет назад

I'll tell you, but before I do.... why do you ask? because it was quite an ordeal....

@madebydemin 5 лет назад

loopop The answer lies in the book Critical listening by Jason Corey actually. But in my opinion, the details and texture of your voice goes through something hight quality equipment. Or it's acoustic panels of your room. I mean I like the nature of sound that I'm hearing. Thx.

@loopop 5 лет назад

Well, if you mean generally, I use an AT2020 into AudioFuse, but in this video I used the Zoom H4n because I was on the road in a hotel room for NAMM... The thing is, I had my laptop open nearby, and the fan made a ton of noise, so I applied a denoising plugin to take some of that away... so, I'm glad you like it, but if it's this and not the others I'm going to have to start introducing noise on a regular basis!

@madebydemin 5 лет назад

loopop that's that I mean. Sometimes "Brand name" and tones of money for expensive equipment has no meaning with beauty of perception... thx.

@loopop 5 лет назад

Thank you ;)