@@JamesLeigh28 idk. just a joke like you said but most things I have seen that are injection molded witha 3d printed 1st family member have been like 2x to 4x the price for some things not saying that it is gonna be like that but just a joke
Congrats to shellington for getting an injection molded product. This thing looks frickin sweet. Edit: Holy crap it shoots 230 fps too. I might have to splurge and get this :D
I'd just be skeptical of buying anything from Shellington. My experience is that they're *extremely* slow. I'm over a year out on getting a working Wingchester from them after the first was damaged in shipping. It took months to get confirmation that they'd even take a return and since September, I'm *still* waiting on the replacement.
@@ralexcraft990 We're both in the US and I've had other producers (often ones that are actually just one person) just as far away respond much quicker. Also, distance isn't really a factor when it comes to responding to an email.
The price seems spot on. Getting molds made for injection molding is hella expensive, and when you're making a niche product for a very specific demographic; you really need to recoup that cost if you hope to produce new products for that same audience in the future.
Totally on the mark. A 3D printer can make any shape you want as long as it fits on the bed, so any model of blaster. Those injection moulds are probably a USD 50 000 upfront cost and can only ever make parts for the Kirin.
Seems like it's be super fun for plinking, especially with the sniper feel. Definitely would like to see a mag that looks like a higher caliber but it's really not a deal breaker. If I get a chance I'll definitely have to pick one up someday. Great video as always!
really cool blaster! I definitely agree with the mag, I think shellington should 1. make the mag extension for sniper feel 2. make non shell or biodegradable shells versions 3. make some competitive viable snipers
@@Shnowz is he wrong though lol? I was trying to buy a holster for the nightingale like 2 days ago, literally could not find one that did want I wanted and was left handed. I did eventually but it’s like deep in the dark web of Amazon. 😂
OK so i got mine in the mail the other day. Ordered the white with 300 spring and some extra shells and mags but HOLY SMOKES!! I don't actively do battles or have the space to shoot in the room im renting out, but now that i have this i feel more inclined than ever to engage in the scene (whatevers happening in seattle anyways) 😅 I have nothing but positive things to say about the kirin. The way it feels is surreal, and it looks borderline s3xY 🤯 I came from the nexus pro to this and i havent felt more powerful in my life. I dont think ive put it down actually, or left it out of my sight. Im constantly loading or organizing and i have plans to paint it like my nexus. Not to get too personal but im autistic and the mechanics and physics and stimulation of operating the kirin are tickling by brain the same way woring on my cars has. This thing makes me so happy. The few friends I've let shoot it have found it absurd at how much foam flingers have progressed since they were children. Btw I've gone through years of reviews to make an informed decision on what I wanted to spend 200 dollars on. Overall. . 10/10
In low volumes, injection molding is much more expensive than 3D printing. In large volumes, injection molding is cheaper. It's the cost of the mold tooling that is the biggest cost for injection molding.
Strong recommendation bro. Though I think I will stick with my Wingchester, as I can tune it down to LARP class levels. But still, the Kirin looks like a cool blaster, that might be fun to field one day.
Hey, love your videos! It would be awesome to see another review of a bunch of cheap online blasters- a lot of people get attracted to cheap seemingly good looking Blasters online that can sometimes be really bad, but your reviews help out a lot on knowing what to buy and what not to buy!
HEY COOP! YOU EVER THINK OF USING A DECIBEL READER?!!!? I'm curious how loud some of these guns are shooting these bullets. Haha hoping that triggered you some. Best dart blaster reviewer ever.
Seeing that seam in the front where the barrel starts makes me want a stubby flat-fronted version. I can't remember what it's called, but the Worker kit I have on my Strife is somewhat similar, and I love the look
Coop i think the price must be contained for two reasons One: for no canibalize the 1st version remanent stock Two: because the plastic molding injection must be expensive for the make of the molds an they have to recover from that investment Great video!
I'm not sure that there would be much 'remanent stock' on the printed versions, those were advertised as 'made-to-order', but I agree on the cost of molds for the new version. In addition there is simply market value - the blaster is worth what people will pay for it. They may adjust the price or the accessory package after analyzing market performance, but this is a higher quality offering for the same price as the 3d-printed version which is a selling point, it's not their fault that it won't cost as much to produce once they get beyond the initial investment cost. So if keeping the price this high gets them to the break-even point more quickly than dropping the price in the hope of selling more units *shrug*
Your vids are so good keep it up frank. You've taught me basically everything Ik about foam flinging, in a week I'm going to a toy superstore to buy a bunch of blasters do you have any recommendations? Keep posting these tacti-cool videos.
hey Coop at the eight minute mark you commented about the blaster being a PCC, that comment and your earlier comment about the faux supressor makes me think this looks like a modernised delisle carbine.
technicaly speaking 3D printed is cheaper than injection molded on low print runs, essencialy, 3D printed = you get some cheap 3D printer to do the job and buy some plastic for it to print with (or contract a printer farm), the machine is rather cheap and the production is slow, the plastic is also quite cheap but the process isn't very efficient and optimal design is drasticaly different, usualy bulkier because it's 3D printed. injection molded = you get a mold which is very expensive, then you get the injection molding machine or most likely contract someone that has one (well usualy more than one since you actualy need many pieces and each piece is its own mold and machines usualy only run 1 mold at a time) and those are easily in the 5 to 6 digit figure if not higher, however the design can be optimised for injection molding which reduces the cost due to material usage since it allows you to make parts just as strong while using less material overall, injection molding is cheaper per unit (tho it's scaling with size, smaller designs are barely any cheaper to do injection molded rather than 3D print, it's on much larger ones that the difference becomes meaningfull) but has like a 100x or higher initial investment, so you need very significant selling runs in order for the price of injection molded stuff to be lower than that of 3D print, without the economy of scale the mold makes it way too expensive, and if you actualy setup your own factory with the machines as well the price disparity is even higher
I just got my hands on mine. “Stock”, it came arranged for right handed use: bolt on right, ejector on left. The blaster throws shells in this setup. When I tried to change the ejector to the right, I’d get many more hiccups. I believe this is due to the extractor being on the left, meant to eject right. If you do switch to the left handed config, try switching the extractor over too. Edit: It is possible, but it’s not worth it unless you are left handed
I believe your supposed to do that. Also if you did switch it over and test it, did it work well? You made it sound like there was hiccups with the left handed config, and I’m left handed.😂
For anyone wondering, I moved the “shell grabber” to the other side as well. So 3 steps to covert. Move bolt: optional if you want to dual hand it or not. But to switch Shell ejection. Move L prices to other side with a screw, also pull the stock and front apart and move the “shell grabber as I’m calling it. A small price in the breach area. (2 more came with mine for reference.) I had 0 hiccups shell ejecting to the left after this.
If I'm not mistaken he stated in a post that from now on he'd only be reviewing stuff he finds interesting, and that he's done with "plastic crap" or something like that, so I don't think you'll be seeing it again on this channel... But as I said, I can be mistaken.
Injection molded is only cheaper when you sell huge numbers. For certain sales projections, Injection molded is the same or more expensive per blaster. The Kirin needs to sell more to make money. If it does, the price could come down for a future production run. That doesn't happen for 3D printed.
Considering that they're using shells to hold the darts in the magazines, how feasable would it be to make double stack magazines with either single or double feed?
Shells offer some practical war benefits, like not jamming. When it's 98 degrees and everyone's milsig and caliburn are folding every dart, guess who didn't have jams? Me, with my shells
@@AdiCrafts it doesn't always work, like on the wasp and Wingchester. On the kirin, it would work great with ejection swapped opposite of the priming hand, though
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