A detailed evaluation the 9mm Sig P229 Legion. A year after the initial release, does the Legion Series live up to the hype and is it worth the higher price tag? Support our channel, buy ammo from Lucky Gunner!
This gun is worth every cent. This gun is the most accurate gun I've ever shot. The trigger is better than my Q5 Match and the quality of this gun is just amazing!
I’ve had my 226 legion since it was introduced. And it has not disappointed. I’ve run as many as 2500 rounds without cleaning it. To see how it did. I have never had any feeding or function problems. It is more reliable than my glock
Now that is one hell of a day sir, please tell me you had some bourban while cleaning and staring at them both all evening long? I would have! : ) I picked up the P226 Legion yesterday, best pistol I have ever shot or owned.
I love DA/SA pistols! Love my CZ97, My combat grey Beretta 92FS was a great deal and probably my most accurate semi auto 9mm, don’t have a Sig Legion (have a little 938 and a Sig AR though 😁) but I’ve been contemplating a police trade in P229 in 357 Sig for $350 what a deal!?! A conversion barrel for my FN40 is almost that much anyways! 🤔😳
Chris, thanks for another great video. I really enjoy your content. As an old guy who was around and owned a SIG P-series pistol in the earliest days, when they were called "Browning BDA's" and having owned dozens since, I smile a bit when I hear younger shooters remark on control positions and slides not locking back on the last round. That is because the SIG's control positions were designed in an era when we gripped a pistol very differently, influenced by our experience with revolvers. I've got a couple of P229's that were LE guns from the early 2000's. One shoots .40/.357 SIG and the other is an older 9mm with the 13 shot frame, both with night sights. They were both bought as Certified Pre-Owned SIGS.. I have less than the price of one Legion invested in both guns total, the extra barrel, and extra magazines. We shot them side by side with my young friend's new Legion not long ago. The Legion is a fine pistol, but neither he as a relatively new shooter, nor me as an old dog, could really justify the price difference. I think that the CPO program is an excellent way for people with not as much money to spend on a handgun to experience SIG quality, especially in the older guns, without breaking the bank. Again, nice video Sir.
@@Holywalk1 there is no manual safety that you have to manipulate on a standard 229 Legion. Common thinking is that the heavy Double Action first trigger pull prevents against negligent discharges.
@@jeffmather728 no real reason. I just liked the looks of the 229 more. I ended up selling it anyways. Awesome gun but I could ever get used to the DA/SA trigger.
Decocking is an administrative activity. There is no need to maintain a full grip for administrative actions. It goes back to Clint Smith's comment where you don't want to take the gun apart in the middle of the immediate fight (paraphrasing regarding reloading and when to do it). If bullets are still flying, decocking the gun is not important.
I just bought my first Sig, a P226 Legion, during a 4th of July sale at a local gun shop for $1000. I have only shot 250 rounds out of it but i became a Sig guy overnight. The gun shoots amazing and feels superb in the hand. Great vid, really enjoyed your review, seemed pretty unbiased and excellent quality. Most people either love the guns or pretend to hate them for one reason or another but really just don't like sig and hate "sig fanboys" so they bash them. Yeah they are expensive but they feel like they should be.
@0:57 Wrong. Berretta is almost the equal of Sig Sauer. The American miltary chose Berretta over Sig because the 92's were like $200 cheaper than the p226's. The Navy Seals chose the Sig p226 over the 92 because they wanted what was best, not sacrificing reliability for price.
I enjoy watching your videos. Your delivery method is easy to listen to and makes it easier to digest. I don't feel you are trying to sell me a gun, but truly giving your personal insights and opinions based upon real world experiences you've had on the range, and in this case a course. You provide cons and pros and let the viewer decide. Well done.
The undercut and trigger are worth the $300 extra alone considering what it would cost to send a stock gun or Elite model in to Sig or a custom shop to get the work done once you factor in a frame refinish, shipping costs, and all of that.
300 bucks difference between that and the standard model? My best advice to the average noob with at best rudimentary shooting skills that buy these is to buy the standard model and spend the difference on actual training on learning to shoot a pistol, and learning to shoot it well
@M - I would fall into the “average noob” category, but I’m going the extra money for the Legion. There are times when paying the extra money for features you may not use are worth it. I’d rather wait a little longer and get what I want. I respect your opinion and don’t necessarily disagree with it. I’ve had my eye on a Legion P226 for months now. Once I sell my house, relocate back to Kentucky, and the dust clears, a Legion will be in my gun safe.
@@sbenton827 it's a tough call. 3 extra rounds is the main reason I switched. I did love my 40. When I bought it, I did it for the bigger round but 9mm ammo has come a long way in the last 20 years
I don't know why but every SIG I've shot is crazy accurate. This is something I can count on but....and it's a big but, I can't afford the P226-P229 pistols. I did buy two 938's when PSA was selling them at great prices and I bought the P250 (which I love) and the P2022 which I like a little less than the rest but even the 938's shoot like a dream and that's great for such a small carry pistol.
As a few viewers already commented, you compact more information in your 7:41 than most do in twice the time, so thanks firstly for that. I recently traded my X Carry Pro for P229 Legion. Excellent ergonomics and grip combined with great combat sights makes for easy, rapid target alignment. Found this weapon fine tunes my level of competence this far. On a negative side, my main grudges being the magazines - extremely tight, once I'd overcomes the loading episode, there's the issue of loading the magazine into the housing. The springs are so tight, needed to smack them home. As a result once the weapon was hot, say 100+ rounds, I had two failures to go into Battery. There's a noticeable drag upon cocking the weapon. I reached out to Sig, their response is pretty much what I had expected and already guessed. Given the hype etc AND let's not forget the $$$$ I did not take this well. I remember having similar magazine / battery issues with the P365 initially also. That gradually bedded itself in and all was smooth as... I'm hoping this will be no different. Thanks again for your time and efforts.
I have the 226 tacops pistol for personal protection and I have used it as such, the 229 Legion I use for work and have used it in conflict I purchased the European version for myself and team, all have stood up to great usage and my team are happy all the “extra” bits have made this our go to weapon this finish and build are excellent and when used has never let us down.
I got to shoot one of these a few weeks ago and I will say it is well worth the money. 5 shots at 15 yards and they were all touching if not almost the same hole. I need one.
The finish with time will get the coolest looking “Battle worn” look if you carry it all the time, in other words it will just get more awesome with time and use
Hello. Need your advice if you have a moment. I have a Sig P226 Legion SAO and a Springfield 1911-A1 Range Officer Elite both in 9mm. One has to go. Which would you keep? Thank you!
Great review. I've had my legion nearly a year. I consider it one of my top pistols. I agree about Sigs marketing. Build quality at a fair price and the gun will sell itself.
Excellent vid as always! I considered this blaster, but am very happy with my PX4! I have 500 rounds through it and have been working on my press out technique from some Langdon videos I've seen. I was able to shoot the best group of my life at 35 yards with the PX4 last week. As a side note, one of my buddies just text me today and he has been a long time M&P9c carrier who told me he is going to make the switch to the PX4 storm now. Thank for your continued solid advice!
I just got the P220 legion, it’s remarkably easy to carry and it feels amazing. It was my dream pistol and it’s my favorite pistol that I’ve shot and owned. I work with firearms, so this says a lot.
I like how the de-cocker is placed on my cz SP/P-01 tactical...you only need to move your thumb to engage the de-cocker..the tactical model comes with an ambi-decocker and mepro night sights with MSRP around $680 USD. The newer FDE/suppressor models is around 680-800 but the polymer P07/09 less than $700 USD.
I’ve owned a pair of these as my EDC for 5 years now and they shoot wonderfully, run like tops, and make me smile everyday. Loaded with Federal HST 124 gr +P
Gray guns trigger system, cerakote or PVD (depending on manufacture date), higher undercut, polished action, solid steel guide rod to reduce muzzle flip, G10 grips, 3 magazines, and when you register, they send you a second ballistic softshell case. Is that worth $300? Hell yes it is, its worth more than that. I see reviews on legions that leave out the majority of this stuff.
The features that you get make it the price reasonable....that is if you already think Sig prices are reasonable from the start. Either way I got the 226 and I love how it shoots, and I love the cool factor, so the haters can suck it, and get a job.
Go to the Elite models. They give you the same mechanicals, extended Beaver Tail, SRT, night sights, trigger guard undercut. You don't need the silly poseur Legion coin and different grips. Love my P227 Elite and P226 Elite, saved $600+ combined. The Beretta open slide/exposed barrel is a dubious design, confirmed by decades of critics. The firing group parts of all Sig Sauer P2XX pistols is Glock simple - but more substantial materials, tighter tolerances, and don't forget Sig's full length slide rails for precision operation. Doesn't rattle when shot like every polymer and lesser metal designs.
Very well done. I agree with most of your conclusions too. Two of the things I don't like about the Legion are the smaller controls and the shape of the new trigger. For that reason, I have stayed with a standard 229-1 with an SRT kit. I do wish I could get the undercut trigger guard, though.
Good review. But do you really think the 92's slide mounted safety is in a better place? I cant imagine many people prefer the 92 safety/decocker to the Sig design.
The standard 229 has been my duty gun since 2002. First in .40 and now in 9mm, both have been 100% reliable. I wish the standard version had the better checkered front strap. I applied skateboard tape, and It makes a big difference.
Tony k yeah I hate most stricker fire triggers. I’ve got Glocks Springfield, FN, not one of them have better triggers than my DA/SAs or obviously 1911s.... the FN40 is probably my best stricker fire trigger but still nowhere near my CZ, Sig or especially my Berettas! 👍🏻
Lovely review. I'm sure you get this request all the time, but I would love to see you review some Cz75 varients. Personally, my 9mm of choice. I'm wanting a p220 legion already. Can't wait for that. I love the p220.
One of the nicest shooting out of the box pistols ive ever shot. At 18 yards first time shooting i hit every plate on the tree without any misses. Beautiful gun and love shooting it.
The best handgun we own is a P229 Enhanced Elite. Our carries are a P938 9mm for me and a P238 Spartan 380 for her. The Spartan is the best running handgun we own. The P938 and P238 are now offered in the Legion platform, although Spartan versions still cost more than Legions.
I don't know why I'm watching this video. It's almost impossible to buy a gun where I live, for numerous reasons. But the video is great. Really informative and to the point. I have a fascination for the design of the p229. It's such a beautiful gun.
I've had my Sig P226 Legion DA/SA for about 3 or four months now and love it so much that I sold my Beretta M9A3 in order to get another Legion. This time around I'm thinking it will be a P229 Legion. What I haven't quite figured out is if it will be a DA/SA or the SAO when it is finally released. Either way this series of pistols is my favorite! I will never go back to polymer pistols after these!
First time veveiwer and now a subscriber. Great review. I got my P229 Legion from my wife as a 10 year anniversary present and I absolutely love it, by far the best shooting gun right out of the box I currently own the trigger reset or lack there of is phenomenal. My 1 con is one thing you mentioned and that is the finish isn't as durable as it should be for 1200 bucks but seeing as I'll never part with this pistol its a small negative for all the positives. I also have a P226 That I had some custom work done to and honestly from a shooting stand point its really close and the work I had done on my 226 cost closer to 500 so I feel the extra cost for the legion is just fine. Looking forward to the release of the 238 or 938 legion.
You're the most articulate gun reviewer on RU-vid. You're able to word things in a way that doesn't get snowflake gun owners panties in a bunch which is no small feat.
Just wish they sold that G10 grip separate, feels amazing. Fondled this model a couple times as my 226 needs a little brother. Was thinking a 225 or M11 A1. Just a matter of how many clams I want to burn. Great segment, thanks.
Great review. Another DA gun I'd like to see a review of is the Walther P99 AS. It seems like a really overlooked gun, and I've been interested in them for a long time.
Great video on a great gun. I am a Sig fan and carried a M11-A1 for a while but put it back in the safe after shooting more with my CZ PCR. It is another great DA/SA all metal handgun with the decocker in a better position for me and fits my smaller hand better. After the Beretta and Sig love you need to acquaint yourself with a good CZ.
I hope to buy a P229 Legion , but for now I don't feel undergunned with my standard P229 . I think I really want it so that I can leave both my sons P229s.
I'd love you to test the pistol is just bought. The Arsenal Strike One in 9mm. Because I know you wouldn't hold anything back. Even if you could shoot it for 1 day or 1 week, I'd still would respect your opinion. If you have any time in November, and I could arrange a legitimate way to get it to you, I'm game. Just thinking. All your videos surpass everyone else. Professional and to the point. No BS. Thanks for being you. ✌
i have the p226 legion (my 4th p226) and love it. but i agree about the finish. ive been carrying mine most days for about a month, and it has about 800 rounds down it and the finish is showing pretty good signs of wear. i wonder how it will hold up but do not have high hopes
Nice review. Many years ago, I bought some high-priced carbon-fiber golf clubs, but my game still sucked. :-) Good point about bad shooters not improving with an expensive gun.
Hey I forgot to add that I had the same issue with the decocker that you describe. I started using my off hand thumb to decock the pistol. Works much better for me.
Any chance you'll be looking at the Sig SP2022? It's roughly the same size as the 229 and would be Sig's DA/SA polymer competitor to the Beretta Storm you reviewed.
I have the P229 Legion SAO. I also have the P226 Legion SAO. I got the 226 first and I was very impressed this the accuracy. Then I got the P229 and I sucked at it. But I kept working with the 229 and now I can out shoot the 226 any day of the week. So as of now the P229 is my War Gun.
Thank you for keeping your videos short and sweet. That's important because everybody doesn't have 20-30 minutes to sit around and watch a RU-vid video.
Wish Sig would make a 40 cal P229. Have a 226 in .40. Love it. G19 is good for 9mm. Prefer metal guns with extra weight for .40 cal and .357 recoil. I have a problem with riding the slide release on my 226. Installed a legion release. It helps. Will purchase a229 Legion. Just for G10 grips and trigger. And smaller slide release.
Who decox their gun in a conflict, I only use decock when I'm ready to holster... so why would it matter that you have to break your shooting grip please someone enlighten me🥴
I had the same reaction. Drills are one thing. In real life, if you've found it necessary to fire your weapon, then when you come to low-ready, I can't imagine why you would de-cock - until you re-holster.
Lucky Gunner Ammo could you do a review on a Beretta Px4 Storm on either size of a compact or a Full-Size model of a 9mm or either caliber since I also carry a Full-Size Beretta on me everyday most of the time but sometimes I carry a 1911 but MOST of the time it's my Px4 Storm I carry on me most of the time
Hello Chris, one more time you "master" the video, serious. Is first class information with a very good opinion (after actually using the pistol). You are not pushing to buy anything but opening the door and eyes to a possible buyer... Honestly congrats and thank you again for your time and expertise. Just one quick question, can you advance the video for the CZ's SP01 Tactical, before the 30th of February 2017? as you advice previously...
There's nothing wrong with it, I just think that compact/mid-size firearms that can be carried are a lot more relevant to most people's self-defense needs.
Got it, the P01 is very similar to the SP01 except for size and weight, material made and capacity... Will be very intrrsting to see your review. Thanks again and stay safe.
Even later to the party but yeah, the CZ, the PX4 compact carry as well as smaller versions of Beretta’s 92 series……and maybe the HK P30SK…..along with the P229, as good as DA/SA carry gets. Guess that’s why I have them all except for the CZ
You do a wonderful job with your videos and this one is no exception to that. However, I must say that while I absolutely love my standard P229, I am still not sold on the subtle differences on the Legion are worth the cost increase. I suppose it is all in the eye of the beholder, but from my vantage point, give me the standard.
The Stainless Elite has almost all of the same features as the Legion, and can be bought for about $100-$200 less. It is also arguably the more attractive gun, but my personal bias aside, they're probably a statistical tie when it comes to looks. If you prefer an aluminum frame, the Talo version can be had in the $800-$900 range brand new. Definitely cross-shop the Stainless Elite and Stainless Elite Talo if you are considering the Legion. Your wallet (and wife) may thank you.
The legion has the undercut, low profile controls, checkering on the lower trigger guard, better sights, better coating, arguably better grips, shorter beavertail, and comes with 3 mags not 2. Legions are in stores for 999-1099 right now. really not a bad deal considering Extremes and Elites sell for 929-1050. As far as which looks better is subjective. I like all Sigs though. lol
good review but I wouldn't get too deep into comparing to a Beretta . I've fired both and had plenty of mechanical malfunctions w the Beretta. not one w a Sig. good review tho
Incorrect sir you can decock this gun correctly using a modern grip without breaking your form, you must use your left hand, the placement of the de cocker was very well thought out.
This was the first handgun I bought I have yet to find another that I even care for. Rifles on the other hand I find a new one I want every other week, sig should make a legion rifle maybe that's what will finally stop my craving. Lol
Sig Sauer should of never got rid of their SAS models! Best trigger in a double/single action I've ever shot. I do like some of the difference on a legion series but I don't think its worth a difference of $300.00 also Sig also needs to have magazine replacement parts and kits no one is going to spend $44.00 on a new magazine when other firearms have entire magazine replacement parts/kits for extremely low cost.
