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That’s what I thought I’m like how was it an hour if it was so bad. I would’ve cut it short and been like time to go home. Maybe he said it to make his vid more interesting
No cause like when I first watched it I was like an hour of making out seems like so long?? Maybe it’s cause (sorry tmi) im not a V anymore but I normally do like 10-20 minutes of making out then get straight into it lmfao 😅
If Tati really believed James was engaged in predatory behavior, she ONLY decided to act on it after he crossed a line with her business. So frankly she's the sort of person who'd cover for predators as long as they support her financially. NOT A GOOD LOOK, TOOTIE.
Jeffrey is such a strange creature. It's like he truly sees the world as his own personal dollhouse because he's a sociopath and is bored because he's rich and doesn't have any substantial problems in his life.
@@nightfrost1891in Jeffee’s defense, he probably didn’t want to give the platform who de-monetized his friend free views. Thus, he likely did so on purpose to help her out and get re-monitized.
I felt SO BAD FOR HIM when this came out. What an absolute idiot to have gone and behaved in the exact way they falsely accused him of. I really wanted to root for him, it’s disappointing. But God, this era was such an amazing time to be chronically online 😂
@@user-uc6gg1jq6i I’m meaning the specific things said that he disproved in this video, I’m not trying to suggest he wasn’t actually doing wrong back then too
@@wizardkumaanimations9984 that’s nowhere near the same thing! No matter how much time passes, James’s actions are predatory and disgusting. Something like drinking becomes legal with age. Are you saying that since time goes by it’s okay for him to prey on young boys? I’m not understanding the point of your comment at ALL besides backing up predatory actions and trying to make it seem legal???? Please explain your thought process.
@brooke-rm8yi they're saying that back then it WAS a false accusation and just bc he committed it in the future doesn't mean that back then he did. Just going after the sentence saying it wasn't a false accusation when it was back then. It's just not now
@@AnnaBunnyGirlstill not that deep she was a grown ass woman. I do NOT like James, and even back then, even after finding out it was lies I did not like who he was as a person, but Tati got waaaaaaay to much boohoo sympathy by blaming the video on Shane and Jeffrey alone when she absolutely played a part & sat at that table plotting on a 17 year old as a grown ass woman in her 30s. To do all that over vitamins is INSANE
I mean I was a brand ambassador for A Dog Food Brand but I didn’t get whiney when my friends suggested other brands to other people? Like my livelihood relied on people buying dog food, but if my friend is recommending Another Dog Food Brand at a party, I’m not going to get pissed at her???
I know tons of people like that irl though (I don't agree with it, but they are people and they exist). I had a friend group fall apart because the friend who was a downtown realtor was offended that the couple friend who bought a house in the suburbs in the next town over didn't use him as their realtor
cause that's when he peaked. His personality reminds me of a rich, racist aunt who has no filter and no control over her own hormones and flirts with anyone and everyone. cause, don't forget, Jefferey also enjoys straight men.
What gets me is why did he carry on kissing him for an hour ? you can usually tell in 30 seconds if someone is a bad kisser. But an hour of bad kissing sounds like hell
James is so young in this, and he was clearly wronged by very influential people. I can’t help but wonder if this affected his trajectory, and how if people treated this situation with more grace, if he could’ve gone a different path.
Tati was pissed because he promoted a competitor, Jeffree felt threatened because James was like a younger version of himself. They only did this because they were jealous. James has done some awful stuff, sure, but they would’ve never put this out there if they hadn’t been jealous of him.
LETS FUCKING GOOOOO. I remember watching this video for the first time and thinking "he didn't really make himself look all that much better" and me and my friend saying we felt like we were going crazy that it somehow redeemed him.
He genuinely had me by this point. I liked this video, and bruh you can even see the difference in how he speaks back then. Why'd he have to screw it up and literally have inappropriate relationships with minors? So freaking ODD man.
It’s so disappointing I’m close in age to him and I was really rooting for him at the start. Like sure he’d be cringe sometimes but he was young. Then he just had to become a predator 😭
Exactly. I kind of think it doesn't hurt James to shoot his shot at dudes that were straight. Jeffree brags about how many rappers and nba and football players he's had relations with
I think dramageddon 2 is very important and has nothing to do with James situation now--Tati brought war against 19 year old James and everyone was supporting her just because he is loud and annoying also tati was an angel which it was not true. It was scary how 36 year old person ruin someone death threat level without receipts just because she was beautiful and crying - also angel-. When dramageddon happen I was 23 year old and this whole situation was very icky to me
I totally agree, I remember at the time thinking how weird it was that she had positioned herself as James' mentor, manager, advisor, best friend, main industry connection, etc as someone who was so much older than him, only to then use that power to try and completely ruin this 19 year old's career over the fact that he made a snapchat ad for a competitor. Even when everyone was on Tati's side, I still thought the situation was incredibly weird and icky. I think a lot of people secretly felt that way and that's probably why James gained so much support with this video, I think a lot of people were waiting to be given a reason to support him. Regardless of the awful things that he went on to do in the future, in this particular situation, Tati was in the wrong.
adam i just want u to know i always notice how ur thumbnail photos include the same outfit thats in the video and it makes me so delighted and i appreciate it SM
i watched this all live in washington dc for a school trip. we were at the washington monument & me & my friends were on our phones watching every response LMFAO
One thing I think we all didn’t pick up on at the time was one of Tati’s main accusations against James, that he’s ‘manipulting straight men into thinking they’re gay’. Why did we all just accept that? As we know from the huge history of people trying to turn gay people straight, sexuality is not something that can be manipulated or changed. James preying on underage people is very different and very bad, but I think it’s ridiculous and almost offensive of Tati to try and see he was almost trying to spread and ‘inflict’ his gayness lol
I think what annoys me about all of this is that more people dropped James over manipulating straight guy’s sexuality than actually sexting children. Both are bad and you should respect whatever someone says their sexuality is no matter how disappointed you are in the answer but the fact that people found that bad enough to unsubscribe but not the sexting and talking inappropriately to minors AND even more straight men and threatening to use revenge porn on someone, it’s insane.
Having had my fair share of relationships, it's wild to me too 🤣 like.. I'm good after a minute, 2 max if it's coming with intimacy, but an HOUR?? Bonkers lmao
God. The dog pilings on someone so much younger than them. Most people could not deal with that kinda bullying. But it's a shame how things have become as time has went on with James.
It’s such a shame that James turned out to be exactly what he was being falsely accused of. You want to say “Omg slay James you ate that up!” But then you remember that he was exposed as a sexual predator.
i've never seen this video, but omg this is the most likable video from James ever. I want to be on his side so bad, bc I know he's telling the truth. But he's literally proven how awful he is himself these past years.
I just cant believe that this was over GUMMIES. Like literally. GUMMIES. Everything they aired out in their videos could have been talked about behind the scenes and they could have had a little intervention for James regarding this predatory behavior on straight men in private first. If he doesnt listen, then so be it. Also, the GUMMIES could have been addressed behind the scenes and im sure Tati and James could have moved past it and James would have helped Tati with other financial opportunities if he knew how upset she was. Like these people are supposed to be adults. And they claim to be “so close” like family. You dont air out your family’s drama to an audience. It’s wild to me. I guess maturity is really optional as you age.
@@MNBLUCKY if you watched what Adam posted, James gave Tati’s products a shout out and promoted them before. He really didnt do anything wrong. And I am saying that as a person who doesnt even like James Charles. He made a decision to help him in a tough spot and that in no way diminishes his relationship with Tati or what he has done to positively effect her brand. She was just super butt hurt and dramatic.
@@krystlekane9874 yes I agree that her reaction is unfair. But I mean to her it is about more than just gummies. She feels betrayed and was partly manipulated to believe awful things about James Charles. But I do agree that he didn’t deserve the bye sisters video based on that he promoted sugar bear hair
@@MNBLUCKY yeah you’re right i mean i guess i could see where she would be hurt…but at least he told her right? didn’t he say hey i got this sponsor just for coachella? i can’t remember. i don’t think she just saw it on his snap i think he told her before she saw it. but if he didn’t, that’s pretty messed up too.
LMAO YES i'm like "Honey sit down, they don't teach you this in school but it's a crucial moment for your development." *Proceeds to in depth go through the timeline
Not gonna lie but this situation is what threw me out of the "beauty" community and right into commentary/drama channels... it gave me a lot of distrust for some of my old favorites and now I feel like I need to see the bigger picture before liking someone's content, at least Adam has always been very honest with his platform and using it to spread information
I had the same conversation with someone who sexually assaulted me before going over to his house, that Sam and James did before his hotel room. I said "I do not want to have sex tonight, by the way" and he said "that's totally fine!" though there were never any charges (which I knew would happen) the lead detective told me when it was all over that it did not seem like it was the first time he went through something like that with the police. I have empathy for the "I had no sexual experience" thing. but neither did a friend of mine in high school. and yet when he pushed boundaries with me the fact that he only had one girlfriend ever before did not really do much to help with the severe PTSD I was medicated and institutionalized for. at least not until much later. James really and truly did make a lot of really good points, especially about Tati. which I see now, and didn't back then. but James is a predator. also im 4 months older than James and from the same state, so miss me with any of this age and maturity bullshit
@@sirdidymus24 thank you, i definitely do after a lot of therapy 🖤 tbh it makes me so so sad for all the boys who had negative interactions with james. i can’t even imagine if either of them were millionaires all over the news, and if everyone knew what he did to me and “no one cared” (we do care, but that might be hard for the victims to see). and all of that while their sexuality is being prayed upon. they’re so strong
@@litebrite3249stories like this spread awareness. If you don’t like it don’t read it. However, reading this and your first thought is to comment THIS? Seek out professional help for your lack of empathy and understanding context of why people share certain stories. Absolutely appalling behavior.
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Was waiting for this video!! 💕 Btw Adam, I love your style, I'd loooove a video of you showing your closet or how do you go about finding the pieces you wear.
I only know about James after he came out as an Actual Freak, so I figured this video would be like tati's where it's like thinly veiled garbage. But this vid is honestly so cohesive and effective. He could've dropped this and had a thriving, successful career while leaving tati and Jeffree in the dust. Why, WHY did he throw ALL of this away? It's so pointless! James, you were at the TOP of beauty RU-vid, and now you're lip syncing your shitty song wearing an absolutely horrendous wig at Coachella. You had so much potential James, why??? I just don't understand it
I honestly wonder if this whole situation really fcked with his head and gave him a complex, or perpetuated the immaturity that was already there. Like I sense a self-fulfilling prophecy thing going on here.
I forgot how massive this situation was at the time! It was EVERYWHERE, you couldn’t escape it or open social media without coming across something related to it. I vividly remember sitting in class at my small town yee haw high school and overhearing the boys talking about this drama. The boys that barely ever went on social media and only really cared about farm stuff…even they knew all about this. It was insane.
This was an enjoyable watch. Rewatching this, it is very clear to me how Colleen took notes and tried to have the same tone in her “addressing everything” video. Her tone in that was very unlike her normal vlogs. It was very pointed, on the surface came out as confident, which is a trait she from her own perspective, doesn’t identify with. I’d love a side by side.
this makes me wish james had never gone on to actually do these things. goddamn. how do you go from being so offended by the false accusations to actually doing them?
@@micah1397hi! It was actually for my English class n it was extra credit :) whoever chose the most unique topic gets 15 points n it boosted us a whole letter grade! I won it thankfully 😛
I think James was in the right when this video was made. 3 people who were in their mid 30s-early 40s targeted a 19 year old. He was way more mature than they were.
Say what you want about James, he ATE with his response and Jeffree, Shane and Tati tried to scare him into silence but James came THROUGH with the receipts and mugged them all off
I can't imagine being like, "I decided to keep making out with this person for a whole hour when I don't even like them." That just sounds awful for both of them.
@@mauve894 getting your vitamins, minerals & other micronutrients from food is almost always better. But if the supplement you're taking actually contains a significant amount of it, and you're deficient in it, then it will make a difference. Some are water soluble so you'll just pee out the excess, so if you're not deficient it may be just a waste of money. Some are not, which means if you take too much it can have negative side effects. Some may (?) be harmless in excess but I'd do research on the specific vitamin you're taking. I'm on a medication that makes it hard for my body to absorb vitamin B12 & folic acid from food, so my Dr specifically told me to take a supplement for it. They actually help hair and nail quality (in addition to more vital body functions lol). SO... vitamin gummies or supplements in general can be helpful. But it comes with a lot of caveats and entirely depends on your specific lifestyle. And idk about specific brands, just look into their integrity
adam i'm loving this revisit!!! i still remember when this & bye sister dropped and EVERYONE knew about it (even my school friends who barely even knew james charles/beauty community)... this video was such a good redemption and insane comeback at the time, but he just became less and less credible with every new allegation throughout the past years and it's just so unfortunate lol
Even though I lived for the mess at the time, hindsight is 20/20. Egotistical hyprocrites were the ones running the RU-vid beauty community in 2018-2020, and I hope that an atmosphere like this never happens again.