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Reviving the Forgotten Allis-Chalmers Model B Tractor 

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The Keykeeper, Furhead and myself all visit the farm to try and get a forgotten Allis-Chalmers tractor running again.
The clutch was merely stuck and dislodging it proved easier than I thought it would on a subsequent visit. The electric starter can still spin the engine over even with the mowing deck engaged. This put enough load on the clutch to break it free, and it works normally again.
The carburetor needs some help, as it's gotten full of rust and other junk. It's off the tractor right now and being cleaned.
The generator is a bit more involved. When I sent it off to have a much-deserved restoration done, it came back with what I was told was a "solid state regulator". The printing has long since worn off, and all I can tell you now is that it was a Transpo branded part. I cannot find any currently produced regulator of that type and brand. However, the Transpo D100 "drop out relay" looks identical to what I have, and I have to wonder if maybe the generator rebuilder thought the tractor had an external regulator. (Why they would have thought so, I can't say. The old regulator was still attached to the generator when I sent it in.)
If that's what I have, the Transpo D100 isn't a regulator. It's a device used to prevent backfeeding once the generator's output voltage drops below that of the battery. I'm just not sure. The tractor never overcharged its battery after the generator came back.
The generator appears to be good., as it will run when "motored", or supplied with external electrical power. (To my great surprise, its direction of rotation is polarity insensitive. It always turns in the same direction when running as a motor. I'm probably overlooking something that I know which would explain this.)
"Motoring" a generator is mostly an academic exercise, but some early lawn tractors used their generators as starting motors in this way.

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Комментарии : 85   
@vwestlife
@vwestlife 5 лет назад
Grind it 'til you find it!
@novafourtwoseven2888
@novafourtwoseven2888 Год назад
I really enjoy these videos especially the tractor ones thanks for sharing
@uxwbill
@uxwbill Год назад
Thank you for watching!
@Helo735
@Helo735 5 лет назад
It's great to see the gang back in action!!
@unknownsoldier4156
@unknownsoldier4156 5 лет назад
Ah I love the orange of the Allis Chalmers. That little B model is a nice little work horse!
@imdafarmergamerboy1650
@imdafarmergamerboy1650 5 лет назад
That farmall 140 would have come from the factory as positive ground. Good video Bill, glad to see familiar faces
@justinstearns9723
@justinstearns9723 Год назад
If it came from the factory 12 volt it would’ve been negative ground. The older ones were 6 volt positive ground but they switched over to 12 volt around 1964. And that one looks like a 70s model.
@stevew270
@stevew270 8 месяцев назад
I wish I could count on one hand the number of times I probably should have been badly hurt or worse doing something I shouldn't have done in all the years I've been working on cars and tractors, pulling stuff around the yard, etc, it's a good thing I've gotten older in my very early 50's and slowed way down.
@doughboy1966
@doughboy1966 5 лет назад
Take the inspection cover off on the bell housing and use a bar to hit the disk with the clutch disengaged . My C Allis use to stick the disk over each winter.
@uxwbill
@uxwbill 5 лет назад
Strangely enough, especially considering the "well used" condition of this tractor, it had never done this before. But if it does, I'll keep that in mind.
@gregdrake2276
@gregdrake2276 5 лет назад
Awesome guys been following you guys for years love your videos. The forgotten grain truck and kitchen table electronics cold starts and cooking with mom are my favorites. So basically everything lol.
@JasonHalversonjaydog
@JasonHalversonjaydog 5 лет назад
we had a bunch of old allis chalmers tractors on the farm, first a WC, then a WD and finally a D-17. they were good little tractors, we got a lot of use out of them!
@Corvette1658
@Corvette1658 4 года назад
That was so funny when Furhead and the key keeper were rapping to can’t torch this and baby got back LOL!!
@Underappreciatedclassics
@Underappreciatedclassics 5 лет назад
Triple upload? I guess the good ol uxwbill is finally awake from winter hibernation
@uxwbill
@uxwbill 5 лет назад
I edit when I have time, and sometimes I change my mind about an older video.
@rodneyerdmann1545
@rodneyerdmann1545 5 лет назад
The best in family entertainment, as always!!!
@doyouliketowatch
@doyouliketowatch 5 лет назад
I miss the farm videos
@stevew270
@stevew270 5 лет назад
I still regularly use the 1946 Farmall H my grandpa bought new. And most of us who grew up on farms have probably "done that" numerous times like standing on the draw bar holding on to the seat while grandpa drove the tractor down the road.. lol
@JohnSmith-xq1pz
@JohnSmith-xq1pz 5 лет назад
Best warning ever! 👍
@netrioter
@netrioter 5 лет назад
My AC was notorious for its clutch rusting to the flywheel after around a month of not being used. Id just start it in first and slam on the brakes a few times and it was good to go. Northern Indiana humidity wreaks havoc on metal surfaces..i know its bad in your part of Illinois as well..i wont say where. Lol
@uxwbill
@uxwbill 5 лет назад
The electric starter won't turn the engine over with any gear selected. (Maybe one needs a twelve volt conversion for that.)
@jimstein8249
@jimstein8249 4 года назад
My old Ferguson always had trouble with spark after sitting for a few months. I had to clean the points every time until I noticed the internal cover under the distributor cap had no felt seal. I made one and the points stay clean and dry.
@jensenstephensCamelClutch1
@jensenstephensCamelClutch1 5 лет назад
I love your Vlog
@jackcasey7037
@jackcasey7037 4 года назад
At our family farm we have a Ford model 4 tractor whose clutch got stuck once after sitting dormant for a year or two. Ever since then, for some reason it’s always very hesitant to crank. Grandad can usually get it running in ten minutes, but once my cousin and I ran the battery all the way down trying to get it started.
@travis4798
@travis4798 5 лет назад
Positive ground 12 volt systems were the norm back in the day for tractors. A few changes to the electrical system fixes that. But the most interesting thing I've found with it, no corrosion on the battery terminals even after years of having the same battery in it.
@uxwbill
@uxwbill 5 лет назад
There is only one tractor here left with a positive ground 12 volt system. I have thought about converting the six volt tractors to negative ground, but haven't felt sufficiently motivated.
@SwingMan1938
@SwingMan1938 5 лет назад
Holy cow - goin' back to some roots here, Bill. For a while there, I caught myself hoping for a return to the 'Old Forgotten Grain Truck'. ;)
@uxwbill
@uxwbill 5 лет назад
I really did intend to get that truck running well enough to drive it a little bit. Unfortunately, the trucks were stolen.
@SwingMan1938
@SwingMan1938 5 лет назад
@@uxwbill Ugh - that sucks the root. Seems like everyone is either a thief or a would-be thief first these days.....
@forsakenmopars116
@forsakenmopars116 5 лет назад
Awesome! Hey Bill, any plans on looking at the long forgotten... I want to say it was a grain truck that was out there? I remember you did 2 or 3 videos on it and then stopped.
@uxwbill
@uxwbill 5 лет назад
The trucks were unfortunately stolen and are now long gone.
@matthewbestdfghy
@matthewbestdfghy 5 лет назад
I don't think I have ever seen or heard of anyone using a hammer on battery contacts.
@uxwbill
@uxwbill 5 лет назад
You have now! (It's a bad idea even to do so gingerly, as I did. It takes a lot less effort than one might expect to crack a plate or break the connection between a terminal and the plates. But sometimes, when you're far away from everything and no other option presents itself...)
@fdfarms4559
@fdfarms4559 3 года назад
if you get b out again and in open space hook a chain from hitch to loader on john deere then start b in gear and pull the deere around holding clutch down on b and applying brake on deere it with probably free up clutch on b. If b has brakes you could possibly free it up without the deere.
@uxwbill
@uxwbill 3 года назад
We got the clutch freed up a little later that day. The starter motor had enough power to spin the engine with the PTO/mower deck engaged. Eventually, with the engine running, the clutch broke free.
@fdfarms4559
@fdfarms4559 3 года назад
@@uxwbill Good deal!
@andybridge3637
@andybridge3637 5 лет назад
Greetings uxwbill. Nice change away from the old dusty old computers Bill. Reminded me of when were living on a lifestyle block and I had a old Ford 5000 tractor. Tough old thing and must have done a heap of hard work in it's time. However the tractor would always managed to give me a few several scary moments whenever I needed to use it for mowing. We had a few steep paddocks on the farm and having no fully functioning brakes would make for some interesting moments, just hoping you would slow down enough to do a sharp turn to the left at the bottom of the paddock because the other option was straight ahead and through the fence. But anyway I manage to survive so I guess it wasn't my time to go and so I am typing on the keyboard now. I noticed was it your brother who was spraying around the cap of the air cleaner when attempting to start your tractor. I wonder if taking the top off the air cleaner would provide a more direct stream to fire up the tractor. I use to take the top off air cleaner off our old tractor and spray the either down the pipe directly. That done the trick because tractor would fire up with a massive cloud of diesel smoke. After that the tractor would be good to go all day.
@twocvbloke
@twocvbloke 5 лет назад
Mastermilo82 recently did a video showing how to drive without a clutch, just have to start 'er up in first gear and you'll be off to the races, or at least holding up the races with it... :D
@uxwbill
@uxwbill 5 лет назад
The electric starter won't spin things over fast enough with the transmission in gear. Fortunately, it will with the mowing deck engaged, and that was enough to break it loose. Pulling it around with a truck, with the tractor's ignition system disabled and the transmission in gear, might also have done the trick.
@davidmattice2613
@davidmattice2613 2 года назад
You have this listed on u tube as a allischalmbers and its just 140 ih which is the modern version on the farmall a. Its water cooled but never had a water pump.
@uxwbill
@uxwbill 2 года назад
Please watch the whole video.
@raym9691
@raym9691 5 лет назад
Always like the farm and tractor videos how's the old dump truck coning along?
@Madness832
@Madness832 5 лет назад
Oh Deere!
@joeyf504327
@joeyf504327 5 лет назад
do those not have proper PTOs? Also they make awesome tow behind mowing decks with huge engines mounted to them so almost anything can mow some serious grass
@PumpkinStrikesBack
@PumpkinStrikesBack 5 лет назад
Furhead 😄
@uxwbill
@uxwbill 5 лет назад
Truly a one and only. :-P
@torigoldstein6841
@torigoldstein6841 4 года назад
Probably had to use choke earlier.
@fanoman1577
@fanoman1577 5 лет назад
i had the same john deere tractor until it was sold
@surrealmemes3518
@surrealmemes3518 5 лет назад
@uxwbill I wish I could meet you and get something like a Pentium 4 signed. I'll be going through Illinois in a couple weeks. I think you mentioned something about living in Illinois at some point if I'm not mistaken.
@netrioter
@netrioter 5 лет назад
have him sign a MOS 6502 as well
@uxwbill
@uxwbill 5 лет назад
Enjoy my videos as much as you like, but please understand that I do not want visitors and value my privacy highly.
@surrealmemes3518
@surrealmemes3518 5 лет назад
@@uxwbill that's perfectly understandable, and I'm not offended In any way. Thank you at least for your reply. I hope to enjoy more of your videos sometime soon.
@welldontdothat
@welldontdothat 5 лет назад
Bad throw-out bearing or linkage?
@uxwbill
@uxwbill 5 лет назад
I believe the friction surfaces were stuck together from disuse. With some load placed on it by way of the mowing deck, the trouble was resolved.
@rodneyerdmann1545
@rodneyerdmann1545 5 лет назад
Just wondering if the little John Deere was the Keykeeper's?
@SpeakerFreak95
@SpeakerFreak95 5 лет назад
I’d love to use and drive a tractor like that. You take visitors? Lol
@uxwbill
@uxwbill 5 лет назад
No, I do not.
@stanglife8676
@stanglife8676 7 месяцев назад
Do y’all still have the old tractors
@uxwbill
@uxwbill 7 месяцев назад
Yes, they are still around.
@videosandstuff7328
@videosandstuff7328 3 года назад
Can you post starting the tractor that needs to be cranked? Thats what I want to see.
@uxwbill
@uxwbill 3 года назад
That is a two person video. One drives the truck, the other pops the clutch on the tractor and waits and waits and waits and waits for it to finally fire off. It wouldn't be very exciting. Then, if you go into road gear, it's likely that the shifting forks will get stuck.
@videosandstuff7328
@videosandstuff7328 3 года назад
@@uxwbill I do it all the time. I was just looking to see how other people suffer with these old machines like I do. Sometimes you can learn new things watching others do the same thing. Thanks for posting.
@jamesdye4603
@jamesdye4603 5 лет назад
Rusty flywheel. To bad we aren't neighbors, I repair tractors for a living.
@ronaldwells1805
@ronaldwells1805 2 года назад
I know this is a older video the middle tractor the model B what year was that
@uxwbill
@uxwbill 2 года назад
I don't know the exact year of that tractor. Apparently records do exist for which serial numbers were made in a particular year. If I think to do it, I'll check when next I'm near these tractors and update the video description.
@ronaldwells1805
@ronaldwells1805 2 года назад
@@uxwbill thank you very much
@darleneknight1
@darleneknight1 4 года назад
These electronic changeovers never work right and if you leave the key on with it not running the things usually burn out.
@uxwbill
@uxwbill 4 года назад
It lasted for about 15 years, so I really can't complain.
@51dbail
@51dbail 4 года назад
u need to lower the throttle to get her in gear. i have a 49 allis its the same
@uxwbill
@uxwbill 4 года назад
No, the clutch was really stuck.
@copperhead6132
@copperhead6132 4 года назад
i thought so, my 39 B won't shift good unless its on really low throttle at first i thought my tractors clutch was failing lol
@jsciarri
@jsciarri 5 лет назад
Does the keykeeper still do landscaping as a side job?
@uxwbill
@uxwbill 5 лет назад
Not often.
@JrJr-mc4wm
@JrJr-mc4wm 5 лет назад
Is the reliant wagon still kicking around?
@jsciarri
@jsciarri 5 лет назад
That was either scrapped or sold nearly a decade ago now if I'm not mistaken.
@AiOinc1
@AiOinc1 4 года назад
Poor sucker must have about a million hours on the engine
@joshshaw6505
@joshshaw6505 5 лет назад
Any updates on the John Deere crawler
@uxwbill
@uxwbill 5 лет назад
There are none at this time.
@davidmattice2613
@davidmattice2613 2 года назад
Its not electronic. Its valves and their seating
@uxwbill
@uxwbill 2 года назад
Who said anything about electronics? (min:sec time needed)
@BenCos2018
@BenCos2018 5 лет назад
15th view
@lbrentevans
@lbrentevans 5 лет назад
1 view... never been this early... lol
@kevinhurst7131
@kevinhurst7131 3 года назад
Want to sell that old B Allis with the mower . ?
@uxwbill
@uxwbill 3 года назад
Probably not at this time.
@smoothbore4377
@smoothbore4377 4 года назад
What a bunch of clowns.
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